The Cringe of After - Let Me Explain 

Right? And there's an audience for it. Nah...I'm not getting anything out of the characters. They are just exhausting

I read first book but less than half... And NOTHING HAPPENS! THEY fight n have sex! It made me sooo frustrated like a book never has!

*cough cough*.... Twilight.....*cough cough*....50 Shades of Grey....The Kissing Booth...

I had 6 of books on wattpad, was so annoyed during out the whole series. Haven't seen the movies but from what I've seen they way better than the books 😂😂😂

I found these books as well 50 shades of grey unreadable. However I love the movies!

Because she's showing how people like hardin can overcome trauma and change And they did break up they broke up for 2 years and then they got back together and hardin was a way better person

@@christina93d5 and in the mean time she was constantly still being emotionally abused by him but sure, Hardin was a way better person 👍🏾

It's probably because it was a wattpad story. On wattpad anything is acceptable because we all already know not to do it. Which takes me to my next point: *some things are just better left on wattpad*

@@MiracleMadkins You are so dumb people can get better you know and he does get better you obviously don't know the story really because he does get better at the end he gets therapy and he gets help and me stop drinking you are so judgmental think you're perfect and like no one else went to trauma people been through stuff you know not everyone's perfect grow up

@@christina93d5 lmao okay

also also, how did they not have an intimacy coach from the beginning but especially not one for the second film? there was a lot of implied sexual contact in that one and it makes me kind of sad that the actors had to navigate that on their own based on what the author wanted.

@@camdenhunt7565 Yeah, sure, take direction from someone who got blocked for doing the one thing that a real person didn't want written about them.

Honestly, I see these movies as what NOT to do.

@ Very true, but these movies should have been framed as psychological horror and not a genuine romance young women think they should aspire for. Because you can't change an abusive monster.

Ikr like they shouldn’t be glorifying abusive relationships and rape culture like they should be glorifying healthy relationships instead of abusive ones 🤦🏼‍♀️

He is losing absolutely

A person of culture, I see 😂

Alex & Dylan too. They're both sick of Hardin but at this point how could you not be? 😅

its so fun seeing them try to keep it together as this series rapidly tries to destroy their mental stability

Dylan is in trouble too😂😂

and also a lot of the GoT characters suffer consequences for their bad/toxic actions. in these books, the characters never learn so it just continues this very cringey and weird storyline.

it's not that deep, it's just smut turned into movies. Smut doesn't have a specific age-group, trust me

@@annan6554 It is that deep tho, little girls are watching this thinking this is what are relationship is and smuts didn't have to be toxic. And I think if you are going to write 6 god damn book about two people {characters} being together, it's not just smut anymore.

@@annan6554 And nobody complaining about the smut here, they are complaining about the portray of a relationship.

@@ChandraBabyface Young girls are gonna do things regardless of what they see in the movie or reading a book

That's how i watche the movies because I can't put myself though the whole thing... I can't be that masochist

KennieJD's reacts are hilarious

Me too!

Same for me man

Same lol

Perfect explanation

I disagree

@@oglifeline1005 Same, there have been hilarious memes out of it 🤣

as he should! it’s creepy af for someone to take your likeness without your permission and use it for some weird abusive teen fantasy novel🥴🙃

@@camdenhunt7565 yeah... But then again it started as a fan fiction on wattpad that later blew up.. And even more in media. Trust me they're a thousands more of Harry/One D fanfics on that app...

#deserved

@@camdenhunt7565 she ain’t the only one, Wattpad is full of it

@@emyf9197 Yea but once it leaves the app is when it becomes a problem 👀🤣

Same I was one of the readers who waited anxiously for the new chapters of the after sequels to come out. I adored them. I finished the last one and then never really picked up another fanfic and I haven’t really been on wattpad since

I'm a huge fan of manga and the kind of stuff I used to read 🤦🏻‍♀️ toxic af but I was a kid. Now as an adult, I just think it's so abusive.

@@izumiruki how was it toxic

So true. I remember when I was about 12-13 years old, I was so obsessed with romantic wattpad stories. I even made my own story 😅

So true I was obsessed with the After books and first two movies and now... I hate them 😭😭

wasnt she 26 when she started writing them…..

@@pxytonfxrmer she was 19 I think when she wrote the fan fiction

@@dyamondwomack549 Nooo, she was well into her 20's when she wrote it. She's 32 now. Anna was born in 1989 and after started being written and posted in 2013. That makes her 24 when she wrote the fanfic and I guess 26 when it was fully published. My original comment was wrong, but the point still stands.

@@pxytonfxrmer I mean, you can be 30 and act 16. Age doesnt mean emotional growth or intelligence.

@@anothertitan5543 that is such a weird reply to a 24 year old girl writing fanfiction about a 17 year old boy

I swear there was a really good fanfic about smaug the dragon and some oc that could have been an amazing, albeit expensive, trilogy.

There was this really good original story called Clockwise/Clockwork about a girl that time travels without her control that would make a great movie

I'm honestly surprised The Cellar wasn't snapped up as a horror flick by Blumhouse. It wasn't the best writing, but I could see it being a really good horror movie in the hands of people who know horror.

The Silence and Storm series are way wayy better than this.

And why would they choose a fanfic about a real life person out of all things? Wattpad has plenty of original stories that don’t feel like a huge violation of privacy to the person it was based off of. I think most people would be uncomfortable if they made a movie which is a porno based off of you, which Harry was if he blocked the author (whose old enough to grow out of her phase and realize how gross treating real life people like characters and sexualizing them and portraying them as abusive without their consent is)

Make fun of it all you want but those women are making bank while you're doing what working at at a retail store making $5 an hour

@@christina93d5 that's is unnecessary hostile towards someone expressing a opinion.

@@royalxprincessbaka6875 They hate that after is unnecessary because they're going after a woman that literally done nothing but create a story that's not even real She's actually a really good woman she tastes care of her special needs child and people think wrongly of her just because she wrote a damn story

@@christina93d5 oh so you are billionaire defending this crap? Or are you paid? How much do you earn? Or waiting for some toxic man child to feed you?

@@christina93d5 she wrote a story about a teenager when she was grown ass adult. Romanticize a toxic relationship (she could have made the story of movie Better) and can't even defend herself as to why her characters are still fking together (because of good sex would have been better answer and all they got)

I surprisingly believe you tho

wait i need more! tell us about the experience!

@@gracerose2549 so that TLDR is there were a lot of younger people as extras on the set not being respectful of the crew/Director’s time and would carry on talking or just being obnoxious in other ways

@@gracerose2549 another cringe thing is when Tessa gets in the fight we were all told to ‘Mime’ filming the fight and this one kid was recording to his snapchat which is a huge 🚩

@@FriskyGoldfish WOW those kids clearly never background acted before and it shows. so gross

Agreed. If you, the writer, don't know why your characters love each other, why are you even writing a romance novel? The relationship is the entire point of the genre, you can't make them be together "just because". There has to be some reason, any reason! Because if there's no reason, why would I even care whether they stay together or not?

No matter how much she has accomplished she still promoted, glorified and romanticised a highly toxic and emotionally abusive relationship and framed it as “hot”. Nothing can excuse that tbh

movies/books generally art can be whatever you want it to be. It doesn’t claim to be the reality. Sometimes we want to see things that we would never acc want to experience in real life. Let’s take 356 days for example. Now many ppl genuinely enjoyed that movie, does that mean they really want to be kidnapped by the Italian mafia? (I’m sure they may joke about it but let’s be real almost no one would acc want that). The author isn’t obligated to write perfectly healthy relationship scenarios if it’s not what she wants and Cardi B isn’t obligated to censor her songs just cause some parents got upset. I read After when it first came out (I was 14 now I’m 21) and I loved it back then however I don’t think I’d like the books now (absolutely hated the movie) You mature as you grow and trust me your teenage sister will be fine. If she’s too young to distinguish between fiction and reality your parents have the responsibility to take care of her, not the author. But that’s just my take I can also see your point of view.

@@opheliami3268 Umm... yes. Sometimes it does mean that they want to be kidnapped by an Italian mafia. People aren't always joking. Just because you turned out fine doesn't mean that the millions of girls who listened to Lana Del Rey when they were 14 aren't now making TikTok videos about how to be a sugar baby. Young people being influenced by romanticized media is something people have to acknowledge. Not everybody comes to the conclusion that it was romanticized in the first place.

@@queerlibtardhippie9357 So your solution would be to censor everything cause people exist who are gullible? Those who genuinely believe that the Italian Mafia kidnapping thing would turn out like in the movie are either kids, who should've been monitored (there's 100% an age restriction) and raised better or adults who are too naive to be on their own yet (or Americans cause I've been there and the insane things some have told me made me loose braincells, apparently Europe is a country and Italy a myth). My point is that you should be able to create whatever you want. When I was in school we read classics with way more romanticisation, especially of mental abuse yet it was clear to all of us that it's not "couple goals" but just a story.

@@opheliami3268 i think the point that is trying to be made is that sure you can make books like these, sure you can write about abusive as fuck relationships and toxic love affairs, but we should be aiming to do better. i don’t think it’s this author’s fault specifically for writing this book series, because she has every right in the world to do so, but if books and media like these exist, we also should be having the conversation of “hey, this is NOT healthy in any way and you should NOT be aiming to have a relationship like this”, since the author does not seem to be providing that. i think if you’re an author you can choose to write about topics like this, believe me i do write about these topics, but always delivering the message that an abusive relationship should not be glorified or tolerated. anna todd does not deliver this message because if you read the books, you’ll see that hardin and tessa are SO abusive and manipulative over each other, but in the end they end up together without having to work through their abusive habits, so it gives out the message to very young girls and boys, who do not have the maturity to realize that this kind of relationship if abusive and should not be glorified, that loves conquers all and that if you hold on to that person that manipulates and abuses you, you will be happy in the end. it’s not how this works. i endured an abusive relationship for years before realizing that love does not conquer all and going to therapy. books and media like this perpetrate that idea. so to summarize, yes you have every right in the world to write about these topics, but you should deliver the message that these relationships are abusive and do not work out in the end :) that’s my take and i hope i don’t feel anyone feel attacked, it’s just my opinion

Yeess..I saw him and thought he's that guy from you with longer hair!!

Theo!!

He’s also in the new Halloween movies.

Why had a chance? You still have a chance

I don't know exactly know what you mean because you're not very specific with your words buthe words but maybe you weren't getting the actual deal in sprouts like the normal when you see uninstagram stuff because hes playing a damn part in the movie that's a whole point you're not yourself you're playing a whole different character

Wait, there are guidelines?! Seriously?!

You mean like the people who were in Fifty Shades of Grey and in twilight they all seem perfectly fine they're still getting movie rolls and hero Josephine are normal people they are not traumatized at all you people just judge it and you guys think people are traumatized for making what a damn movie what about all the people who made horror movies over and over again they're perfectly fine

Cuz they don't sell or have 100+ million views and a dedicated fan base. Plus a lot of REALLY popular fanfiction are full of generic tropes and plot that appeals to the general audience. Also, i think they are targeting young teenagers specifically who are still naive enough to eat up anything that they throw at them.

Game of thrones is pretty much lord of the rigs fan fiction .

I don't think the problem is that he was under 20...

So what it was not like he was a teenager he was a man when you hit 18 you become an adult and Harry doesn't give a fuck he said in his rolling stone interview he doesn't care he said I know there's books and movies and he said I don't care because it doesn't affect my life people can do whatever they want why should it bother people when it doesn't bother me

Because it's true hes trying to say that Harry is nothing like hardin because hes not that's the whole point of the fanfiction she took styles's image it made him a whole different person

Nah these books glorify, romanticise and promote an incredibly toxic and emotionally abusive relationship and frames it as “hot”, the author absolutely doesn’t deserve respect even if her breaking into the film industry via a wattpad book is quite a big accomplishment.

Be grateful

You are lucky

I envy you

wish i were you tbh

In other words, it's relatable.

cuz its not real and doesnt need to make any sense at all. clearly people liked it enough to the point it got films. im so sick of people acting like every book needs to be morally right and make perfect sense. its not real. if u dont like it, dont read it.

Because they like it. It's that simple.

Do you know what wattpad is it's a place where you can make stories about anything there's all kinds of fanfiction about one direction a lot a whole lot of them and I read a lot of them there's about the Dolan twins 5 seconds this summer Ariana Grande Selena Gomez Justin Bieber there's all kinds of fun fictions about all kinds of artists because that's what wettpad is and that's what fanfiction is about Harry styles doesn't give a fuck he said in his interview in rolling stone in 2019 he knows there's books in movies but he said he does not care

@@christina93d5 lol girl who doesn't know wattpad? I guess my sarcasm went right over your head 😅

@@hdlsdudetats Yeah it did because your sarcasm sucks

@@christina93d5 lmao okay 😂

Because that's what people like to read you want to read about stuff that doesn't exist like perfect relationships not nothing of a such thing exists there's no happy endings no happily ever after every relationship has their problems it's real life there's no such thing as perfect sunshine and rainbows there's no such thing

@@christina93d5 in real life Hardin would go to jail.that's some real life shit there.the whole book in far from reality.

@@sarahzahir5582 jail for what

only in the second one 😂 He ran away and never came back for the third one. thank God

no exactly like i genuinely don’t understand why they make harry styles like this utmost terrible human being like there’s a book i read like at twelve bc i just liked harry yk and wanted to see what it was about and he literally tortures, r4pes and kills young girls like wth is wrong with ppl