Respect sikh sentiment in Punjab Respect muslim sentiment in kashmir and lakshdweep Respect Christian sentiment nagaland mizoram and meghalaya But Respect secularism in hindu majority states ***** Thanks kushal mehra for giving this logic
Thank god this is what I wanted some one in the Sikh community to speak up against. it all looks like well to others it's Hindus only talking about it. But thanks Singh Saab for coming forward ❤. Also we need more of yous come in the limelight. Satt shree akal .🙏
To be fair, BJP barely had any say in Akali governance affairs when it comes to Punjab. Akalis( Badals) never allowed BJP to grow beyond some urban centres. But yes BJP can be questioned on its role in promoting some radical elements by Akalis by keeping mum.
@@kpsingh8323 BS!! Hindu is the soul of this land!! That includes Sikhism!! If Sikhs want to turn into a Pakistani ideology then they must look at killings of their gurus by Pakistani ideology!!
@@kpsingh8323 hindu rastra is based on savarkarite idea of hinduism whi is a hindu acc to savarkar? a hindu is one who considers bharat, as his motherland the image of hindu in your head is that of the temple going man, whom i call a sanatani but that is not what savarkar imagined see, we are not demanding a hindu state, where the consitution will be based on manumsmriti or vedas we are demanding a hindu rastra a rastra, a nation, where hinduness, or bharatiya-ta is kept atop this includes buddhists, jains and sikhs, in the end sanatan dharmis the main tenets of a hindu rastra would be confornt forced conversions by christian mafia and islamic mafia include the values of indian civilization in the consitution(not sanatan dharma) now, if you want more info on this, read savarkar's books
Sherbir makes a false equivalence between calling someone a khalistani and gau mutra wala. One is a political disagreement, maybe a slur at worst the second a straight out religiously bigoted abuse.
Doosra if a sikh’s hate Brahmins and idol worshippers so much than they should disown gurus and their hero’s like banda singhy bahadur and ranjit Singh as gurus and banda was vedic Brahmins and ranjit Singh was hardcore idol worshipppers. It’s high time when Sikh’s intellectual becomes honest and take society to right direction. Sanatan has survived this long and will continue it fights for survival. Challenge is for Sikhi as they are now turning into Islamic cult 🙏🙏
That Why they have started killing poor woman & mentally challenged people in name of begurmati. They have highly influenced by Islam after living together.
guru nanak started new religion because he didn't like hindu reeti riwaz... we celebrate our heroes.. but we only worship guru granth sahib teachings... read sikh history bro
@@kpsingh8323 guru nanak came & told you that? Stop propaganda 1. Guru nanak was the person who came to kashish Vishwanath for pilgrimage. 2. The 5 k of Sikh are from maa chandi 5 weapon. 3. There images of hindu goddess in Harmandar sahib till SGPC formed & removed them. 4 all guru were worshipers of chandi. 5. Ram name comes multiple times in gurugarnth sahib. 6. Har mandir sahib name come from Mandir of Shri hari. 7 ek omkar is Shri om of hindus. 8. Sikh didn't come out thin air all hindus specially Brahmins & Rajput don't their elder sons to guru to fight invader & save dharma. Go to primary evidence & rather then propaganda you just spreading hatered Sikh & hindu are brothers One brother was told to take care of family other to take care of nation & dharma.
Indian govt. must have a policy of telling the truth of history, promoting native culture, neutralizing separatist elements and making Indian institutions, society, media.. truly Indian ; ))!!
Hey Kushal appreciate your podcast that it is not an echo chamber. People can have different views and takes on any matter Honest conversations are welcome. Which this podcast to a considerable extent makes available. Today's was a good conversation too. There is one point you did not touch upon but which I think is important - which is that more Sikhs need to come out to make clear that Hindus are not repressing them or oppressing them or discriminating against them. This is important. When we understand that all Sikhs should not be blamed and labelled as Khalistanis, a position which I agree with both in principle and in fact, why do you think it is okay to let a general impression or argument tobe made that Hindus are somehow to be blamed? That somehow Hindus must be conspiring against Sikhs or denying them their space? For if the socio-economic problems narrated today by your guest are a "Sikh" concern, who is there to cause it except Hindus? This is not a demand being made on all Sikhs but I hope well meaning Sikhs understand that Hindus need to be supported against baseless accusations of Hindu communalism. There is of course a "Sikh" dimension to the problem as well and this might need a separate discussion - the direction which Sikh theology has taken towards Abrahamic tendencies, which exacerbates us vs them, with " them" to be blamed for our ills. I will tell you who in India has an interest in promoting this kind of narrative against Hindus - the Secularists. These have been instigating and mobilising people to take an adversarial position against Hindus. Unless this is countered, Hindus are going to react defensively. Someone who you admire Shelhar Gupta has put out a video today - Why Sikhs are hurt. You should see that video. Each one of the 4 or 5 arguments are complete BS and worse they are sinister. Since you are interested in Punjab do consider whether views of the kind articulated should not be countered. Because such views promoted have consequences. Including for Sikhs. Harmful consequences.
This is a really quality podcast. I am glad that Kushal made it happen. I do have a disagreement w.r.t. never questioning the patriotism of any individual. Example, Would it be wrong for me to question the patriotism of people who celebrated Pakistan's 🇵🇰 victory over India 🇮🇳 ? Would it be an extreme thing to do..
Also when people openly call for Balkanisation of Bharath? Would it not be natural to question their patriotism? Maybe what we can do is avoid name calling and branding to keep the discourse civilized. But, the thoughts would definitely manifest
My only question to SGPC is give me The name One political freedom fighter between 1931 and 1945 apart from Bhagat Singh as he martryed on 1931. You will not find one name in this list coz most of the jatt Sikh political class were supporting Sikh league and collaborating with British. ( you will get plenty of names of Pujnabi hindus during this period) In world war 2 there was 1.3 millions Sikh in British Indian army and total British army of undivided army was 2.4 millions. There’s are bitter truths which we don’t want to bring into lights but sometimes has to give bitter pill to bring back people into their senses🙏🙏
Indeed!! Our true history has to be told!! The Nehru/Congress made anti Hindu history books where they have hidden all crimes against Hindus, the reality of Sikhs or Muslims as also the reality of Nehru/MK Gandhi & congress!! In India like in in Africa & other colonies, Britishers/Europeans wanted to sustain colonization so they put their local puppets in power!! Putting Congress/Nehru in power were part of the British plan!! That is also why congress agreed to steal Indian lands to make Islamic Pakistan & then take power in the name of their so called fight for independence!! Congress then imposed their pseudo secularism to cover genocide of Hindus but also Sikhs in Punjab & Pakistan!!
sikhs never see it as a hindu vs sikh issue- yes there were sikhs in British army - no doubt- so were other Indian so called "martial" races- rajputs/ gorkhas etc. And What all of u blind fools dont realize is that in 1845 Almost ALL the Indian princely states were supporting the Brits when they defeated the Sikhs in the first anglo sikh war and then crushed the Lahore kingdom in 1849 - again with help of all the heroic forces recruited from bengal, Awadh, Rajputana and the whole of India- when the revolt of 1857 happened there was NO Sikh kingdom left to rebel - the troops that the Brits called for help to crush the rebellion were from the Cis Sutlej states (read Patiala) who were always toadies of the Brits. thanks to "forces of hindustan" -British terminology- there was no sikh army or leadership left in Punjab. The Brits satrted recruiting Sikhs in large numbers well before the 2nd WW- the most decorated units in Indian army are proudly units raised in the late 1800s...so get ur godamn facts right And going to my earlier comment - the Sikh faith in itself is a reform revolution meant to bring the various philosophies ( hindus , islam and all forms of worship) closer and together.. no Sikh ever has any mal intent towards any other religion. So stop spreading bull shit and sow the seeds of hatred between hindus and Sikhs.
Sherbir Panag is part of the problem. He was the one opposing the Farm laws, despite knowing it very well that the laws would improve farmers livelihood.
this sherbir panag was also opposing farm laws & talkin shit on modi, hindus. He also was talkin of sikh persecution but wont speak of hindus who are minority in punjab
I am sorry but painting muslims in same colour as hindus and sikhs are.....we sikhs and hindus have joint identity....but the narrative from islam is very clear that their way is the only way...so may it be hindus or sikhs, we both believe in equal respect and you will reach your god from your path just be true to that but can we say the same thing about islam...the answer is a big NO!.....i love my muslim brothers but thought process is very different...but dharmic religions should start identifying themselves from abrahamic religions, still everyone has place in India coz Santanis believe in peace and coexistence. Mind this is coming from me who actually do not believe in gods in real sense but I do believe in spirituality of peace.
khalistan8 do hate bjp , and I never understood until recently that this hate comes cuz they hate hindus vehemently, funny thing is bjp did far more for all our sikh brothers than any party which ruled punjab , now Don't say akali bjp rule cuz everyone knows bjp had no say in those times , akali were all over the place , still it was stupid alliance like mehbooba alliance in kashmir
Govt and people should tell the Khalistanis if you are really serious about the demand then why don’t you dare to come to Punjab and ask for it while living here.
Jattwad, ulta machoism, glorification of gangsters, drugs all culminate in to a mess that Punjab is in currently . This will require massive & honest collaborative effort from all to bring Punjab out of this crisis.
If Sherbir has anything to do with General Panag and Gul Panag then Kushal Mehra is supporting dynasties in establishment politics, army, judiciary and other section of society
Communities can come together only when they stop having mutual contempt and learn to respect each other’s differences! When supremacy and need to expand becomes the hidden agenda, the trust will go out of the window! Motherhood statements may give some comfort but does not offer a solution to the presenting problem of discontentment. Let there be more positive discussions and debates come up to nullify the extremist’s view of the world!
Kushal mate if possible please invite paramvir Singh bath or jatinder pannu of both reporter and share their views with worldwide Punjabi diaspora through primeaisa tv and different radio channels. 🙏🙏
Sherbir doesn't represent Sikhs, see what pope of Sikhs called akal takht jathedar recently said that 'Every Sikh wants khalistan and if the govt gives it to them they won't say no to it'. What I have seen is that the majority of Sikhs are not anti of the idea of khalistan, it's just only small no is vocal about it.
The name-calling or specifically trash labelling at around 35:00 that he spoke of, I agree that trash-calling someone is not good. Still, we should also remember that anybody can't just go on labelling people on the other side as Fascists and Nazis for every small thing that they disagree with. I think we all know the atrocities and the level of crimes against humanity these 2 groups did, but reducing to anyone with whom you disagree is pretty insane. It's here where we can also find the roots for calling someone antinational. You can't just put the burden of criminality that the Nazis and Fascists have on someone just because they have a different viewpoint; even if it's a bit authoritarian, it makes no sense to equate them with the 2 groups. And people who do so shouldn't get flabbergasted when others do the same, maybe with a different label.
Anyone against some policy is called khalistani statement is wrong. There were legit anti india and khalistanis in protests. And he blessing deep sidhus soul shows the anti India double standard of these so called neutral sikhs.
I have switched off my Twitter account for a few days, as I fear I might say something that might upset our Sikh brothers & sisters. I think its the better way. Maybe when tempers cool down - we can have a sane discussion. But not now!
Thanks to twitter true faces of Hindu rw has come out .The way they say repeat 1984 , start Missing Indira when anything happens in punjab , abuse Sikh gurus ,make fun of persecuted Sikhs who came from Afghanistan. Doxx-ing is the only solution to show place to hindu Trads( trad gang of True Indology and Upword)
Punjab is always in crisis, the state with most killed chief ministers, with people revolting against the constitution, against the state of Punjab , drug addicts, people sucking up to the ISI and Pis’stanis, killing Hindus after pulling them out of busses and segregating. The only state where Hindus were segregated and killed after Kashmir. Don’t bring in the killing of Sikhs, it all came after years of mayhem in Punjab, killing of Indira Gandhi and the nudge of Rajiv Gandhi’s “earth shaking” speech. Why didn’t this happen to Muslims in India after Kashmir? Punjab thy name Crisis!😮
Why ordinary Sikhs are not openly coming against Khalistanis.? The Punjab problem started with Bhindranwale who started killing Hindus in the name of religion. Then followed bluestar and killing of PM and Delhi riots. The Sikhs have a fascination for mixing politics with religion like Talibans and Pakistanis. That is not the way a modern economy works. Also there is a crying need to go beyond agriculture to industries and services to get out of unemployment and drug problem.
i think,,, govt leadership knew,, that only way out of amritpal incident wants to play the defensive role till amritpal don't cross the redline which that group didn't committed any violence during that police station raid
Here in British Columbia, Canada the Sikh diaspora has totally lost its mind! A good number of Sikh boys in schools hardly study and are totally getting wasted! They live in million dollar homes but get into drugs, gangs and crime! The police and government does absolutely NOTHING to handle this situation! In fact the elders in the community seem to be promoting and adding fuel to this mania! Sane voices are muffled with impunity too! The Pakistani ISI is totally exploiting the situation here. Really sad! Hindu kids on the other hand both in US and Canada seem to totally excel. Something is totally wrong with the Sikh diaspora! They’re all going nuts!
The one s excelling are totally focussed and kinda left leaning . Also u cannot deny a bunch of radical Hindus who are inspired by trads true Indology and Sai Deepak and they vent out their frustration Online slander communities and gurus .As a result they end up getting doxxed or thrown out of their workplace.Off late such cases are increasing in hindu diaspora.Last big case being the female hindu employee thrown out of NTT data company . Careful analysis of their profiles tell that they are influenced by trads , Trads hate RSS ,Sikhs , Buddhists Jain's .
The Sikh diaspora has been used as geopolitical tool by the west. They are allowed to settle in the west as truck drivers and other businesses clearly to use them against India and Indians. Deal with the issue head on. This beating around the bush and pretending to not know the backing will not help at all. In fact it will make things worse.
You are not fair to Hindus. We consider all sanatani religions as one family but others don't consider it so. All sacrifices all adjustments are to be made by Hindu because they consider this country as theirs
maybe solution is to promote Cultural tourism in Punjab where we all promote sikh festivals,,, through all embassies of india in an un-official manner central govt gotta allocate more and more infrastructure budget to punjab doubling down on investment in agricultural infrastrucutre,,, promoting all kinds of agriculture tech in punjab (from all over india) making punjab as centre of agricultural events by government,,, that\s the solution
@@avikchaks I dont get it why do you indian or hindu nationalists always play vicitm, why cant you just hear out the other side and see what the Grievances are from the Punjabis.
@@avikchaks Na victim card is old school concept ,nowadays doxxing trad hindu folks influenced by Sai deepak True Indology 's hateful idealogy is in fashion
