I'm glad they showed Dodi's side of the funeral/grieving process. The Royal family snubbing Mr. Fayed when he's grieving too was awful, dehumanizing and classless.
@@BellesView Possibly. But, like my own posting above, that's just an assumption. When Diana wasn't part of the (royal) family anymore after their divorce, as the Queen said, Mr. Fayed was even less part of it so why should they consider him? His wish that his poem - the poem of the father of a man Diana probably wasn't even engaged with, let alone married to - should be put into the coffin was a little presumptuous.
@@traceykeegan4203 No he didn't he always made sure the Dodi's homes and apartments were left exactly as they were and like nothing was moved from them. Almost as like a shrine to him
@@lucypreece7581awee thats the sweetest/saddest thing i Heard 😢 i hope hes a peace now, tho ill never forget the interview he gave n called Camila a crocodile 🐊 😂 guys a savge. I believe the interview was about how the royal family try to take out his son
This still feels super victim Blaming. She came from an abusive neglectful household and was thrown into the lions den effectively as a teenager. I’ve been watching a lot of Allison Stoner‘s take on child stars, and what that does to psychology and I wouldn’t say she was attention seeking she was trying to figure out a balance. She knew she couldn’t outrun the media, she was trying to feed them so they wouldn’t eat her alive. overall bad talk
Richard Parker-Bowles, brother of Camilla's ex-husband Andrew, was quoted by the Mail Sunday newspaper as saying his sister-in-law saw Diana as easy to manipulate. She initially encouraged the relationship between Charles and Diana because she thought Diana was gormless (stupid). Over the years, Camilla did intimate to me that she thought Diana was either half-witted or quite mad. He said he felt sorry for Diana, adding: "The fact is that if Camilla had been a child on the beach, she would have knocked other children's sand castles down. She is a wrecker at heart. She doesn't like to see other people happy."
@@fahimfaisalmahir567 Everything she owns is borrowed... her house, jewellery, her crown, her husband, her title. I hope she's at least happy, that would be her only win.
The last episode was genuinely hard to watch, they did it so well! I was so anxious before the crash.. great casting on little Harry! Tho he looked a little young, Harry was about 12 at the time
She looks like her, but I don’t think she captured her essence. Honestly, I found her version of Diana very emotionally distant and guarded. Even in her darkest states, Diana always exuded warmth. It’s a shame Emma Corrin only got one season, because she was magnificent in the role.
The portrayal of Charles has me wondering how much was paid to Peter Morgan to make him seem like he cared about Diana, when in reality all he cared about was getting his family and the public to accept Cowmilla
He did care about Diana. Why does not wanting to be with someone romantically equate to hate? Towards the end of her death they were on good terms. The immaturity of you calling Camilla all kinds of names is so damn childish. Diana was so angel. She broke multiple homes with her affairs TOO. she was literally the ‘Camilla’ or ‘other woman’ in MANY people’s marriages! Where is the empathy and accountability to her for that?! Diana was not a saint or a martyr. She had her MAJOR flaws like everyone else. So sick of ppl kissing her ass and choosing to turn a blind eye to her obvious troubles. Dodi was literally with someone when he met Diana and Diana didn’t care. Stfu.
Apparently it's true that Charles did sob when he saw Diana's body in the morgue Even I was skeptical about that ,because I thought the actor just did a good job..but no apparently even in real life, the hospital staff did say that he couldn't control himself when he saw her dead :/ I think he did love her , it's just that he couldn't because Camila was his true love
Also I do think that Charles isn't a horrible villain I think it's the system that forced him apart .. because when he first met Camilla he wanted to marry her But the members of the family didn't approve because she wasn't 'pure' (ugh ) as in a Virgin So they separated them ..by the time he came back..Camila was already married .. that's when he decided to get married to Diana It was really sad that Diana had to get such a raw deal But in a way he did remain loyal to one woman:( It's the fault of the system, that ruined Diana's life
@@user-nn3no9vr1csays who they were on good terms? Certainly not Diana's brother. Certainly not the people who have left. The royal family say that. The only people who say that are the royal families. And I wonder why they would have a need to lie about that.
I haven’t seen this yet i am with family. I think from what I read the crown is showing everyone with nuanced which is what I like about it. I do think it would have been intresting to show the aftermath with clips from the Queen since Peter Morgan did that too lol. It was a good reaction but I trust he did a good with it. For those who say they made Charles look to good that’s not true I saw pics of him crying especially when I saw him collect the coffin with her sisters. He looked in genuine pain even as an eight year old watching the news I could see it. I have read that Charles and Diana were also becoming good friends at the time of her death which the Crown didn’t show. As for Diana I prefer her portrayal on the Crown a million more times than the paranoid mess she was in Spencer
Didn’t gather this AT ALL. Diana doesn’t come across to me as being spotlight hungry, either in the series or in real life. The entire season was a favor to the royal family and incredibly unfair to Diana and Dodi- no surprises there. There isn’t a single hint that she was over the relationship whatsoever. Even the security cameras at The Ritz show them very much in love. They made Dodi look like a spineless do-nothing, and Diana like a woman that needed someone to control her, which is far from the truth. And of course they made his father look like a bad guy- he called the royal family out on everything. Then pretending Charles cried his heart out at the hospital and “wanted to be brilliant” … ha! Pathetc.
Though Charles had his obvious faults so did Diana! I’m so tired of people purposely turning a blind eye to the things that she did. She was not a saint or martyr. She had affairs with married men and was quite literally ‘Camilla’ or ‘the other woman’ in multiple peoples marriages. And yet this is completely ignored even though it’s shown in the show and publicly known in real life. Charles never wanted to marry her and there is no way he could have just ‘given up’ the crown so easily with how his mother was. She would never allowed that to happen. Feel so badly that he was forced into it.
Well said..... most people are not old enough to remember how it was. Diana, while sweet,( maybe) was also a cunning, calculating, needy, spoilt woman. She planned EVERY move she made. Her affairs hurt a LOT of people. I read that one of the reasons she spent time with the Al Fayeds that summer was because British society would have nothing to do with her because of the constant drama she caused.
Okay, let's break this stupid take down. Diana was is 20 years old when she married a 32-year-old Charles. A. 32-year-old Charles who never had any intention of making this marriage work. A 32-year-old man who was already having an affair with a married woman. Who invited that woman to their wedding who allowed that woman to wear white to their wedding. Diana, who was faithful to him for the first few years of marriage bare. Both of his child are in alone. I may add. In fact when she went into labor with Prince Harry he was off with Camille. Diana She had an affair with married men. She's not perfect. No one claimed she is. But Charles emotionally abused that young woman. He had 12 years her senior and he behaved like a child. He was jealous. He was abusive. People who worked in the Royal institution of said as much. And then when Diane died he allowed his boys no time to grieve and put them on display. Diane, while she had her flaws she was working to make herself better. Working to fix her charities. Whereas Charles has stood by his child. Molesting brother. Allowed his brother to dress in ceremonial garbs at his mother's funeral. Refuses even today to call out the British royal family's benefit from slavery. He went to a country where the slave trade went on for an abnormal amount of time. And said well. I hope we didn't give you too hard of a time. He's detached from reality. He's bullied to his staff. This ridiculous toxic tank. Well true. Diana wasn't perfect. No one ever says she was but Charles is a literal monster who protects child molesters and tries to downplay the royal family's continuation of slavery as an institution.
Я же говорю они прям души друг в друга не чают любят друг друга я же говорю да для фаэд для неё всё она прямо без ума от него если он такой как раз классный такой красивый нравится он ей у них тут любовь и любовь друг с другом они уже даже позабыла про принца Чарльза она и всё такое ей он больше нравится начал и скорее всего их жизнь будет именно скорее всего прекращена она потому что именно так влюбилась в него но он для неё он правда красавчик мой симпатичный такой мужчина всё и у них вот конечно любовь друг с другом произошла и что же теперь сделаешь нежели любят они друг друга ну что ж теперь ну вот такая любовь у них произошла ну что ничего не скажешь это хорошая пара получилась
Да и любовь я не там была и всё такое в принципе бедная скучал без неё а ей было всё равно что там происходит мне и больше всего понравился этот немного доди альфаэд она была без ума от него она была счастлива что она встретила такого мужчину и ей было намного веселее что и уехала вместе с этим дядя альфа-ида встречалась долго время а происходит такая история ей уже всё равно было там уже Елизаветы появлялась по-моему уже королева или забыт тоже в общем там было вообще всё другая история ходила уже другая но она то что это им понравился ей друзья Ральфа и это всё и весь мир рухнул и для неё доди был самый классный
Boy did the Royal family ever get much better treatment this season. It’s so weird. But I presume it’s so the King doesn’t get as much hate as he deserves for how he acted. Also the ghost Diana and ghost Dodi thing was so weird. I wish they’d just had the other characters asking their questions to empty rooms. It’s not a great season given how the show started.
Totally agree. Netflix must have felt the pressure of the royal family now that the asshole is king. And the ghosts are so cringe. Takes away from the style of the show as historical drama.
He was talking with Diana in friendly terms before her death, but you have to remember, the crown is fictional based of history. Though this is closer to what really happened then past seasons
Agreed, I thought the ghosts were out of place. I also thought the scene where Charles was crying out loud while viewing Diana's body was also out of place. I figured a silent cry would've suited him better
Ugh. Apparently The Crown is now more pro-Royal in order to appease conservatives in the UK who turned it’s critique of the Royals into a “culture war” issue. It’s the historical drama equivalent of The Rise of Skywalker. Why bother appeasing these people? They’re bigots.
When I first heard that the show was going to have Diana come back as a ghost I was appalled. But once I saw how it was done, it made perfect sense to me. I lost my husband of 36 years in a car accident, and let me say, that imagining that your lost loved one is sitting across from you in conversation is quite normal. I did it plenty, and it helped with the shock. I think the show handled the entire tragedy very well.
I too thought it reasonable as Diana showing up as not even so much as a ghost but with grief with a sudden traumatic loss, one does hallucinate audibly & visually because your mind is trying radical accept a loss. It's been scientifically proven that the brain's neural pathways when a traumatic loss occurs, it's trying to adapt to the paradigm shift of one's own new reality. My husband died suddenly from a brain aneurysm at only 49 years of age. Having lived with him for 25 years and high school sweethearts and best friends, I also had "seen" him after his death like a living dream. So, it makes sense for a fictional narrative to have this occur as well. My sincerest condolences to you for the loss of your husband, @diannes3804.❤
Yes I was surprised to see people claim it was insensitive. I think it wasn’t overly done - only two brief scenes - and realistic. I lost my boyfriend over ten years ago and I very much still imagine normal conversations with him as if he were there.
Mediocre season. The show has fallen so far since Season 4, which was my favorite. It has neither the historical weight of S1-3, or the emotional depth of S4. This went from being my favorite Netflix series, to one that I now watch simply because I need to finish what I started. I read somewhere that Peter Morgan meant it to be 5 seasons, but was pushed by Netflix to stretch that final season into two. And boy can you feel it…The plot has been stretched so thin, and so much about Dodi and his father fabricated (in a way that makes them look reeeeally bad, and the royal family look better). And that’s before we even get to casting - can’t tell if it’s the writing or the acting, but across the board the royal characters feel inauthentic to the versions we saw in prior seasons, and on the whole just far less engaging. It’s telling that my favorite episode from the past two seasons barely involved the royals at all. The one showing Mohamed Al-Fayed’s backstory in S5. To see how one-dimensional they made him in S6 was really disappointing. Felt like a cartoon villain. The only saving grace was Dodi’s ghost scene, which restored some of Mohamed’s depth.
Couldnt agree more. I guess the new King sent word that making him look bad (which is how it was at the time) would not go down well. Peter Morgan sold out the truth and should be ashamed.
@@michellew4637 dont be ridiculous. IF charles could give out orders that he was not to be portrayed as a bad person, he would have a much eaiseri life
Mohammed Al fayed being portrayed a grey character is a classic British move. Yes make a father who lost his son look as if he's controlling his son into being in a relationship with Diana 👏👏👏 yea he's in their bedroom too of course making his son do the deed. Writers needed a villain they couldn't do that to Charles because him being a king now they did that to Mohammad Al fayed. Shame on them for framing an innocent man. All of these are freaking theories they didn't had guts to show the reality they tried to defame a de@d person. Disgusting American behaviour.
I hate it that the show portrays her last days as confused. I think Al fayed had hopes, of course, but Dodi and Diana were having a happy fling. And I will continue to imagine they were having an utterly fun and playful time. ❤😢
I'm mostly fine with all the liberties the show takes in speculating about interesting things that could have happened, because most of these characters are probably very boring in real life (not Diana's life, as much). But I think the ghost scenes were ridiculous for how much they felt like putting words in Diana's mouth that felt out of character. Trying to give closure to the event so quickly after it happened and in such an idealised way like she's still with Charles and the queen in spirit felt disingenuous and kind of patronising. It painted the queen and now king in an incredibly charitable light that didn't feel true to the more nuanced and believable character studies of previous seasons.
Can you do in laws and cousins in media? The latter can talk twin cousins like in The Patty Duke Show to Hey Arnold and South Parks depictions of out of town cousins, how cousins are regarded as intruders, and Never Have I Ever showing cousins as part of the family. NHIE can be applied to in laws as well.
I kno i felt like i was there!!! I had to Kee pausing and take a breath. Crazy how i was 6 years old at the time and remember being up at like 5 or 6am watching that funeral
I am in the episode that deals with the death and it’s written really well it’s not a cut and paste from the Queen that I was Peter Morgan would do. The Queen is a good movie but we don’t need a copy. So far I believe Elizabeth Debicki was the best Diana I’ve seen played in her 30s and I was rooting for her to get reunited with the boys and I felt bad for them going to bed not knowing the next day everything would change. I liked Diana saying motherhood was what made her happiest and I feel that so nice because I feel it’s gotten so shamed in modern times being a mom. I liked the easy fling she and Dodi In the Crown I thought it was sweet and while like the Crown I don’t think it would have lasted long it did bring a case as to why they were together at that period. In the Naomi Watt movie they do have Diana call the cops to make Hasnat jealous. Even that might have been more true I do still prefer the Crowns Diana Even though Dominic West doesn’t look like Charles he does do a really good job
А ты рассказывала что она ездила поездки были у неё и всё влюбилась в дядя альфаеды и она была счастлива что принц сейчас уже на втором месте у неё побыл вообще вот такая история с принцессой Дианой она влюбилась в другого мужчину почти у них была любовь друг с другом ипо рации всё время их фотографировали по этому поводу видели что происходило на катере там они прямо встречались там вместе ну ещё такая любовь произошла уже с
Даже души нечаянно до дельфида потому что был классный классный он для неё всё было он для неё вообще был прям как Мухаммед там ещё какой-то Мухаммед у неё был я не знаю но доди альфа и алфавит она от него без ума была я правильно лофает наверное называю потому что могу ошибаться вот и настолько она была с ним кокетливо настолько она была с ним принцесса Диана у нас только она и даже общалась с ним и подолгу они там и даже показывали как они вместе где-то отдыхали и всё и даже про семью со всем забыла а там в принципе час же уже докладает что там она с кем-то другим встречается
Я только про Мухаммеда не знаю кто он такой но всё-таки скорее всего тоже они как-то тоже подружились по-моему с Мухаммедом но у них там просто было так вот просто пожали руку друг другу да и всё мне кажется это просто я подумала в начале что доделал фаид по-моему своему любимый класс любовник который она мечтала заполучить э об этом человеке только думала когда приехала увидела мне понравился он был классный он был интересный общение было интересное друг с другом вообще мне кажется даже и влюбились они друг друга надолго ну кто её знает ну интересно любовник точно он
Опять же там тоже происходит эти именно по её мнению по её делам это имеется в виду она пытается тоже помогать там тоже в той стране где она находится пытается также помогать и бедным больным так же э там то едой то и ту одежду это вообще что-то это медицинских учреждениях бывает и тоже помогает и больным раком также людям это надо шприцы то ещё что-то лекарство какие-то всё какие-то деньги немножко подкидывать даже именно чтобы всё это хватало и у нас только это всё даже роддома посещает маленькими детишками даже там поглаживают их показывает все так интересно все это такая история приятная правда но то дело фае для неё всё мне кажется что они влюбились и навсегда это происходит и всё мне кажется что жизнь будет обломана
Он даже вон рассказывает уже что там встреча происходит у него в общем принцесса Диана с другим мужчиной встречается всё такое что даже ему доложили по этому поводу Чарльза что доди лофаэт появился что они там всё время общаются вместе кто-то там папарацци постоянно фотографируют их мне постоянно то ли фотографии приходят или что и в принципе сейчас во всём знает что там происходит и он был конечно злобный на вот как так вот он влюбился на неё она вон как что делает из-за меня это ему направо налево а он же всё-таки муж её если он уже прямо не знает что делать и как жить это дальше всё для него это страдание то что она там сотворила и всё равно было что здесь происходит она там души не чаяла от этого человека была без ума где-то показывали что на публике она была вместе с ним может даже публичном месте была и очень там нет даже всё равно было что там происходит она прямо любила этого доделан фаида и всё и прямо уже чуть ли и даже уезжать не хотела они уже там даже решили жить вместе что ли ну вроде так а потом пришлось уехать куда
Да она там точно она там помогает всем всё и тут всё равно что тут происходит как происходит для неё было важно уже совсем другая жизнь она просто уже отдалась в другой жизни и там тоже пытается открыть свой фонд помогать всем также и всё для него важнее была именно та жизнь которой там и она совсем совсем забыла про ту жизнь готова была раньше просто была счастлива была довольна что она помогает всем даже ей было от того и приятно что люди к ней относятся к добротой участвует везде тут показывает везде она участвует во всех местах везде бывает всё помогает каждому во всём там и даже каких-то учреждениях к людям наверное даже приходят может быть даже требуется какая-то помощь она всегда спрашивает нужна ли какая-то помощь может быть что-то надо именно из еды из одежды и всё такое интересно вообще происходит вот эти моменты очень интересная здесь
Дети уже у неё подрастают и всё такое да она чуть не в любви этому додили фаида произносится здесь речи произносятся но ты речь совсем другая и не то что она может быть даже пытается там может это речью помочь что-нибудь там и всё такое вот рассказывают может там что-то я ошибаюсь я могу ошибиться конечно вот а то что да у них скорее всего жизнь оборвётся вместе с чарлизом и всё у них и любви такой уже больше наверное не будет потому что она видна одиссея по полной программе влюблена и здесь и хорошо и что только
I still think the 2006 movie The Queen was better than episode 4: Aftermath. I did enjoy the differences though: Charles in the morgue, Mohammed's reaction to Dodi's death and a Muslim funeral being depicted. To me that was so educational, I have never seen on screen or in person a Muslim funeral.
Wow. Y'all really can't get through a video without some preposterous suggestion. Mario Brenna has said that no one contacted him about where the princess was, but now you're going to suggest DIANE CALLED HIM/THEM??? That's disgusting and you're sick for even suggesting it. Yeah, I'm done with this channel.
I'm disappointed how they showed her death. It was already proven that the driver wasn't drunk on the night and there were no paparazzi near the tunnel... they made the Royal Family look innocent
