The cultural clash over climbing Uluru before October ban | 7.30 

My man really out here wearing a Centrelink t shirt 😩

How about give them a pair of VR glasses and send a drone up, then they can really take in the view

For a foreigner, me, I have been there for visiting, but I didn't climb it. Just watched it and took pictures. Respect for aboriginal people.

Look Like it was starting to crumble. So glad that they have stopped every tourist from climbing it. Now Uluru the great rock will thrive again & have the respect that it greatly deserves, be left alone & be taken care of by the indigenous people who appreciates it.

Its crazy how much hate Australia has towards the Aboriginals.

i've been to Uluru. Its a amazing place to go and whilst i was there. i talked to this amazing aboriginal man. he was telling us that at the place where people went and climbed you can see a faint line that they call the scar. Until then i never fully understood why people have huge respect for the landscape. But that story changed everything seeing what we had done to these people homes that they lived in for thousands of years. and looking at the damage close up and personal.

I thought about not climbing it. Then i figured out that just because its sacred to one group of people doesn't mean everyone else has to abide by that. Anyhow, The Aboriginals have been coining it in over the years charging an entrance fee to Uluru.

'Centrelink living the dream' - Why would you wear that shirt?

The largest rock in the world is Mount Augustus (Burringurrah) in outback Western Australia, it is far larger than Uluru and anyone can climb it

I climbed it in 89 when there was not such an education as there is now. In hindsight I wish I had not.

Who "owns" the Sun or the moon ? How far under or above Uluru is the boundary of possession ?

2:40 I refuse to believe that is an accurate translation 😂

Biggest mistake they made was announcing that it was closing. The amount of trash from tourists flowing in and camping in nondesignated spots is ruining the environment. Should've just kept it how it was and closed it quietly

Must be careful not to worship the created however. Respect creation of these beautiful places but worship the creator.

I really wanna know these place, don't really mind to climb it. I think it is impressive regardless of the angle of view

What does the rock think?

I agree I know that if you live there that you want to climb it and stuff but over time man will destroy it. Just look at the trail from people walking on it over and over

I climbed Ayers Rock, I thought that was better.

35 deaths? How could that happen? I visited in 1989 and did climb it. On the other hand it wasn't possible to walk around the rock as certain areas were sacred to the Aboriginals and reserved for their rituals, or so they said. Fine by me. The climb was strenious but great. There was no waste, everyone was austere up there, and the view was fantastic. We were no more than 50 people at the time, and no one strolled far, everyone knew the dangers, it seemed.

The opening scene of the 1975 George Lazenby film The Man from Hong Kong was a martial arts fight on Uluru. The location did not make any sense but was a spectacular site for a fight with the Chinese drug dealer running up hill to escape the large Australian drug squad officer.

We must have respect the traditions.

What's going to happen when the rock finally 'wakes up' and starts buzzing, then takes off...whooosh?

Should just shut down the whole park. It's a money grab anyway. The cost to get into the park are astronomical and the little township is the most expensive place in Australia.

climbed it in 73. took large case of med format cameras and documented the spring and tree then got santa getting out of his Cessna

HOW CAN PEOPLE BE SO DISRESPECTFUL. AUSTRALIAN IS TO BELIEVE IN THIS GREAT COUNTRY WHICH MEANS ALSO MEANS BELIEVE AND RESPECTING THE TRUE CUSTODIANS OF THIS LAND. IM WHITE AUSTRALIAN HOWEVER THIS LAND IS SPIRITUAL, RESPECT IT OR LEAVE IT. PLEASE RESPECT OUR FIRST AUSTRALIANS WAY, IT'S THE AUSTRALIAN WAY.

So did the local people never climb it? I personally wouldn't climb it if asked not to but I would like to know more truth to the story, the reporter should have pushed harder for answers.

The local Aboriginal tribe has spoken, the government have listened, climbing Uluru is no longer an option. Meanwhile, in the pristine Flinders Ranges of South Australia, the local Aboriginal people there are ignored as a defiant government pushes ahead to try to use their lands for nuclear waste abandonment holes.

I lived and worked at Yulara for six months and dealt with media from around the world when Ululu was handed back to aboriginals. I doubt that you have been there as there is an abundance of wildlife there especially in the rocks caves - but I guess you did not walk the eight km around the Uluru.

I agree with aboriginal's belief side. Respect the nature and learn to APPRICIATE to the beauty of the Sandy rock from the distance vision and the wildness nature.

Nobody owns any nature. Should be common heritage for all people around the world. As long as people respect the place itself, don't leave rubbish and don't destroy or damage it in any way. I believe the climb should stay open. What's next, Everest gets closed down because it is owned by the Nepalese?

Why are aborigines constantly called the “traditional owners”? Ownership of property and the means of production is a concept inherent in a Capitalist society. The aborigines weren’t traditionally a Capitalist society, they were a hunter gatherer society and had no concept of ownership of land until the White man told them all about it. They inhabited the land but they never owned it. There were not records kept or borders outlining who owned what. This is outrageous and people should ignore this ban and climb the Rock without feeling guilty.

Puli Wiru is an extremely important sacred site. It is not a mountain for tourists to climb and take selfies.

I TOOK MY WIFE AND PARENTS THERE A FEW YEARS AGO .YOU COULD FEEL THE HEART AND SOUL OF THAT PLACE . I WOULD NOT DISRESPECT THE FEELINGS OF THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE. WE DID NOT CLIMB ,WE WALKED THE TRAILS AND ENJOYED THE BEAUTY , LET THE TRADITIONAL OWNERS HAVE OUR LOVE AND RESPECT, AT LEAST IN THEIR HANDS IT WONT BE SOLD TO CHINA OR INDIA, THEY HAVE KEPT ITS BEAUTY FOR SIXTY THOUSAND YEARS,LET THEM PROTECT IT FOR SIXTY THOUSAND MORE.

This whole ban is quite disgraceful, for a couple of reasons. 1. What aboriginal communities need is infrastructure, education, jobs, healthcare. But the governments don't give them those things in adequate measure, because infrastructure costs money: money that governments deem worth spending on electorates that are going to affect the vote - not isolated communities that have no apparent importance in the political scheme of things. So instead, they offer token gestures, things that don't cost the government money. And when you're in a disadvantaged community and a part of a disadvantaged group, you take whatever concessions you're offered. So instead of focusing on actual real issues that affect health and lives, issues like this enter the limelight. If Australian governments had given the aboriginal population the things they actually need, there wouldn't even be this debate, let alone the closure. That's the virtue-signalling world we live in now. Make a big noise and beat your chest while doing the bare minimum. It's a sham and a national disgrace and it saddens me how many people have been fooled by it. 2. A natural phenomenon such as a giant monolith, contrary to what so many misguided souls believe, is nothing like a church. A church is a purpose-built thing by a group of people, for a group of people. It exists because of those people. They created it, brought it into being where previously it did not exist. Uluru came into being 600 millions years before aboriginals or anyone else came upon it. It exists because of nature and nature is for everyone to appreciate. Nobody has the right to project their beliefs onto nature in a way that inhibits the ways others appreciate it. The ONLY reason Uluru or any natural environment should be closed off, is if human visitation is causing it damage. The deflection of real issues that affect lives, to the token closing of this rock, is a tragedy and a travesty that should never have happened.

That vegan teacher could never

What's with the subtitles?

Wearing a Centrelink T shirt and saying he only wants traditional practices .. it's just a bit of a paradox.

This monolith is 600 million years old. It predates indigenous settlement of Australia, its older than humanity, older than the mammals and even older than the dinosaurs. Its an old rock and should be enjoyed by everyone as long as people keep things tidy. Next they'll say taking photographs of Uluru is against traditional culture and ban it as well.

Live this country never been there. No idea if i would want to climb it.

A rock is a rock is a rock. Who gave the so called ownership of the rock and how was it obtained in the first place those billions of years ago when the rock through nature came into being? You can only possess land surely and possession passes hands over time. All of Australia for all Australians.

For all of us.....be honest not deceitful, be considerate and respectful, acknowledge each other, harmony is such a lovely liveable word.....and it feels good!!!!!!!!

Just close the whole park already and be done with it.

How ignorant and disrespectful is this lady for still wanting to climb the rock after being asked if Traditional Owner's don't want people to climb @3:32

The argument that other belief systems would welcome all comers into their sacred places is simply untrue. Non Muslims cannot enter Islamic sacred sites. And yes, you can wander around Westminster Abby but god forbid if you climbed up on the alter for a selfie.

This is a rock, put there by nature, it is not owned by anyone, therefore climb it if you want to or don’t climb, it’s part of Australia

7:30 ... gosh thats a dumb argument its like saying, We can see the moon from the earth so why go to the moon when the only time you cant see it is when you're on the moon.

and it's raining on the rock...

The climb of Uluru is very dangerous because 35 people had died from climbing Ayers Rock in the Australia’s Northern Territory and the summer lightning storms coming around the corner and it is also very dangerous when the lightning strikes and heavy rain falling caused slippery wet surfaces. Lightning storms are coming in the summer months in Uluru- Kata Tjuta and the township of Yulara by the resort stay. We just walk around Ayers Rock in the heart of Australia’s Red Centre.

What a beautiful aboriginal language and maybe aboriginal people should just address all officials only in their language and maybe it's just time to start teaching the local language and history in school and maybe that will create respect and understanding, instead of the old colonial BS rhetoric

I climbed it back in 1984, back then there was no complaint or ban about doing so. I respect the Aborigines culture but no-one owns this planet.

Anyone from apc

I grew up in the NT born in Darwin ...Gove ....Alice ...Hermannsburg.... is an Aboriginal community 125 kilometers; west southwest of Alice Springs. Local Aboriginal people call it Ntaria. I worked there as a volunteer. Every time they stop climbing at the rock the $ goes and the aboriginals get upset so people climb again this used to happen time and time again. Any time there is talk of gov money and sacred sites usually a mob from outside the NT takes over? I don't care if you don't like what Ive wrote it's the way it is.

I was under the impression it was banned years ago why on earth had it taken them so long to ban it!

As usual people have had two years advance notice that Uluru was closing for climbers and now, with two months to go people are now starting to complain. And I hope the first thing that goes is the chain rail. How disrespectful.

Why is everybody wearing winter clothes? I thought uluru was in the tropical part of australia, but even in the most southern part it doesnt get below about 10 degrees celsius. These ppl are dressed for scandinavian winter. Thats it im checking wikipedia.

You can tell the Aussies from the tourists -------- watch and see who doesn't seem to mind when a fly crawls over his/her face. Don't like flies? Don't go to Aus.

Quote: “We’re religious people, we’d welcome anyone into our sacred areas”.. Cool, can’t wait to climb me some churches.

Great now Traditional people can leave the cities and live around Ayers Rock - traditional owners??? yeah CENTRELINK T-SHIRT says it all - and by the way he's talking gibberish - not a local language

Not to climb to Uluru it is way too dangerous and many people lost their lives while climbing Ayers Rock in the southern part of Northern Territory,Austrália 🇦🇺

It’s not that hard to pay a bit of respect to the locals and it’s such a simple request. Did they ask you to change your religion, your culture, your family values? No... just don’t climb the rock. Long term it will have no impact on you one way or another if you can or can’t climb the dam rock! Old mate is too right, why are we still discussing this?

Through the work and foresight of Whitlam and Fraser, Uluru was returned to the Anangu people. Very soon afterwards, the Anangu signed a lease for 99 years which allows for the Resort and visitors to Uluru. It was their gift to the rest of Australia. Surely we can respect their feelings in return.

G'day, Yay Team ! It's very pleasant indeed to hear that only 13% of Tourists going to Uluru are climbing the Rock. People have been living on Australia for least 65,000 years, the 500 Language-Groups haven't changed the Boundaries of their Towries (Country) for 40,000 years, and the Rainbow-Serpent is the oldest continually-practiced Religion on Earth, at 10,000 years....; and every rock & river & valley & hill & gully & cliff and waterhole has stories about them going back tens of thousands of years. So, in terms of Theological/Religious signifigance, Uluru is like the Altar in Westminster Abbey and St Peter's Basilica and the Black Rock in Mecca & the Wailing Wall at Jerusalem..., all rolled-up into one..., and then it's vastly older as well....; some opine that Cathedrals & Altars & Holy Walls are all Artefacts, and thus not directly comparable with Landscape features - to which the ob(l)ivious riposte is, "What about Lourdes..., that's a French Cave with a Spring included, whereinat 'Holy Visions' were once upon a time - in 1858, said to have been seen...(!) !" And, millions of Catholics make their Pilgrimages every year, to visit the the "Blessed Holy Sacred Site...", at Lourdes. There are NO TOILETS on the top of Uluru, and it's a long, hot, steep, thirsty climb, undertaken after a big Breakfast, done while hauling a Backpack full of Waterbottles and Energy-Drinks & Snack-Bars.... And, y'see, when Aborigines go off to visit Lourdes, or Westminster Abbey, St Peters' Basilica, the Wailing Wall or the Black Rock...., none of them-there jetsetting get-abouting touring-the-World type of Blackfullas from Oz EVER tries to climb up onto the Altar, or scale the Wall, or jump up on top of the Rock - and thereupon Urinate, Defecate, and change their Tampons...., up atop the Holiest and most Sacred Sites of the Abrahamic & EuroPeon Religions.... They never ever do try to do that - and d' y' have the faintest underconstumblin's as to WHYFORE NOT..? That would be because, y'see, Aborigines are raised to have better manners than to ever even think of behaving in such a savagely barbaric fashion. As a 5th-Generation Australian Whitefulla..., I utterly fail to comprehend why anybody would voluntarily burn hundreds of Litres of Fuel, emitting 2.5 Kg of Atmospheric C.O.-2 for every Litre burned, just(ifiably ?) to make a personal Tourist Pilgrimage to the Red Centre of Oz, and then set aside a whole Day of their Lifetimes, devoted to climing up and literally Colon-ising Uluru - travelling a great distance and then emptying their Colon onto everything which they can't be bothered making any effort to understand...(?) ; their vile behaviour reflects very badly on them, their Parents, and the misbegotten Barbaric excuse for a Culture which spawned them... And as one who was raised as a Whitefulla, they make the rest of us look really Really REALLY Disgusting, as a People. It doesn't often rain on Uluru y'see, but but these dayze, when it does, then thanks to the Neo-Imperial Colon-ising Tourists, and all their filthy ways...; instead of veritable Holy-Water flowing down off the Rock, filling up the Waterholes, and recharging the Soaks..., what comes down are the rehydrated sun-dried Sewage, discarded Toilet Paper, and used Feminine-Hygiene Products left there by the Scum of the Earth, swarming about the place in Plagues of Fossil-Fume farting conveyances, keen to look at what's left of the Ecology before the Grid fails and the Lights go out - finally. So, in the very politest terms, to quote from the title of the Video which I happened to have posted a few dayze ago...(beating you to the punch, Aunty-ABC !), "Stop Colon-ising Uluru...; Bury Your Turds, Instead - Pretty Please...!" Title-search YT for it, or backtrack me, to see it, feel free... Just(ifiably ?) sayin', ;-p Ciao !

Uluru is part of Australian nature your beliefs are not mine I respect yours but you can’t just claim something and say it’s yours and no one else can enter that’s simply what kids do in grade 1 by shutting off the rock and only allowing people that fit your ideologies and beliefs is just being ignorant call me conservative all you won’t.

I'd climb it, things been there for millions of years no one owns it. People behaving badly littering etc Should be fined.

Its not an ancient man-made structure such as the pyramids of Egypt or Buddha temples in Asia. Its just a big rock..

The centrelink shirt 😂😂😂😂

When do the walks over the top of the Canberra War Memorial and Melbourne's shrine of Remembrance begin?

There's more interesting experiences and knowledge to be gained by walking the base with Anangu ppl. Basic respect costs nothing....and despite the age of Narcissism, not everything in this world revolves around the individual or their need to gratify all they want. These peaceful ppl have been so very patient.

No one had the right to own something like half a million years old in the making, can’t just go around owing caves and Hills and mountains

Hmmm. They didn't show the current price they charge to enter and have a look...

A relatively of mine was a ranger years back in the 60s and has told me there were no paintings in some of the ancient caves around Ayres Rock. But there is now 😉

The last bloke had a great point! 👏🏽👏🏽

Everest and Fuji, amongst many other mountains, volcanoes and natural features are considered sacred by various peoples and cultures as well. I am curious as to the reaction that people would have if the Everest climb was banned, or swimming in the Ganges or entering the pyramids or Valley of the Kings/Queens etc.

It should belong to all Australians! The Aboriginal people did not build it and they should never have been granted control of it. Comparing it to climbing a church is totally intellectually dishonest. The environmental damage aspects are also greatly overstated and would easily be solved by implementing a few basic restrictions. A very regrettable decision.

I bet the hotel owners near The Rock are shitting bricks.

I had the honor of visiting Uluru 25 years ago. It is quite an experience to actually be there and see it . It is this huge monolith sticking out of the ground, looks like it doesn't belong there as it it is so flat and nothing else for miles. I was enraptured and blown away. I thought of it being an alien object from outer space, like it came down from the sky and landed there as it looks so other worldly and majestic. Then when you walk the trails around it , you see up close all the amazing rock formations how the elements (wind and rain) have worn the rock into these incredible formations over thousands of years , lots of holes where the birds live and I 'm sure snakes. Incredible beauty, It is a work of art by nature. I did climb the rock to the top and again a spiritual experience! It is something I will never forget. Just looking at pics is not the same. It is a magical and powerful place. Sunsets are gorgeous! The energy is amazing! I would recommend seeing it in their winter season (June - Aug) , as their summers in the outback get really hot, plus huge flies everywhere.

I visited Uluru very recently - I wouldn’t have even considered climbing Ayers Rock out of respect. I’m so glad the government are initiating a ban!

Let these Gentle souls be. You wouldn't climb on a church. They've been more than graceful and patient....something they're remarkable for in a crazy world.

The word “sacred” is a very religious term, everyone is free to believe whatever they want, but no one has right to impose their religious belief on others, that’s the basic principle of separation between church and state, and to punish tourists for visiting a site, for no good reason other than it’s “sacred” for someone else obviously imposed a religious observance on the rest of this country’s community, seems to be a violation of the separation between church and state

what's so sacred about it? not being offensive, i just want to know

Uluru is sacred and owned by the local people - Thank goodness that the climbing on Uluru has ceased.

Typical numbskull tourists that go to such a mind blowing site with so much to see and learn and climbing the rock like mountain goats is all they can think of. Disrespectful.

Im Australian, its in Australia I have a right to climb it

There's something fascinating about their language - but I feel some of the 'translation' was misheard - 6:08 sounds like he said people come on "school holidays, a lot of people love to come eh"

It does not belong to anyone actually, god made this planet for all life, no one has a right to ban anyone from going anywhere

I have climbed Ayres Rock twice and walked around its base twice. Once back in the late 60s when I was a small child, and again in 2002. I can understand some restrictions for the potential danger when climbing the "Rock". I remember when I was a child my father talking to local aboriginals who had no problem with anyone climbing the "rock". It was there for everyone. It appears to me that a more recent epiphany has occurred. I would suggest that for many overseas and Australian tourists, climbing the "Rock" is one of the most important reasons to go to Alice Springs and The Ayres rock area. No doubt tourism in this area will diminish over time. Maybe as a gesture of good will the cost to enter the Uluru National Park be reduced !

We don't like people to go on Uluru it's very special is made of rocks and sand it's from major and and is very a special for the Australia people younger club is the Australia people go and I'm in younger club at livis Park School it's a school to learn the role of the world and we don't like people to climb Uluru and where with Miss Hannah see teachers about Uluru but the real name is Ayres Rock that's the first name but the Australia people change it to Uluru and I drawn like put glass around the to everyone think it's still open but they get hit by the glass to pay back 2 hurting the Uluru

One group excluding others because of their belief. Where else do we tolerate this?

The climb will reopen in years to come!!!!

There are plenty of other rocks to climb. Respect and compassion come first.

If we keep allowing a certain group to play the culture card, why can't every group play a culture card ? I think English blooded white Aussies should be allowed to have a shoot an abbo day. That was our culture.

It would also be a tremendous hypocrisy to prevent others from climbing if there are still other "native aka older generation of people " climbing it... When the new spring and official earth new year has begun.... All humans who claim ownership of land the people the animals and or earths freely given gifts will be left to a barren land as if by magic..... Love or fall again

"traditional owners" is a political term . traditional aboriginal culture doesn't have the concept of ownership of land it viewed its people as part of the land.

Have respect I went out there and didn't walk on it so be respectful and do the same and tell the people who stole the rocks to bring them back it's why they have bad luck

There was a special kind of fish but it has gone extinct Duke people climbing The Rock because people kicking shooting in the pools Wetherill the fish were.

Climbed it four days ago - my thighs are still burning. I saw Five aboriginals climbing it too - why should believe them in their lack of consensus? Look - If you want me to take my shoes off before I enter the Taj Mahal - fine; it's a minor thing - similar a Japanese restaraunt . . . But don't tell me I can't go to the them because you think my heritage is wrong . . . I will not accept your racism the way you accept my hand-outs.

The rock belongs to all Australians, not one group and it certainly wasn't a problem for earlier elders to have people climbing the rock. Soon we won't be able to walk on the beach.

They should have closed it decades ago. It should have never been climbed.

Ayers Rock always was and always will belong to all Australians

If a Buddhist monk or a local aboriginal told you not join the Sydney Harbour Bridge climb would that bluff you out of doing it? This is step 1 to banning non-Anangu from getting anywhere within sight of it.