The Curse of Valentine, Re-Visited - Red Dead Redemption 2 

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@@Galm02 that’s what the citizens of valentine said

Lmao I feel

Lol

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oh my god one time i went there to take a bath bc Arthur was all muddy and immediately after taking my bath i got grabbed off my horse into the mud

Especially when I had the white coat arabian🥲

You "enter" your horse? Damn.. I know the nights on the prairie get lonely... but damn

@@jonraybon8582 ew💀

Every damn time 😂

In some ways the Van Der Lin gang is cursed after the Blackwater massacre like Valentine

I read it as I’ve shot up every location in the game at least 100000 times even in the main story

Nah I took more from "MORNIN ARTHUR!"

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I read it as a shocking lack of self-awarness

mickey is the carrying light and last hope

Mickey is NOT a curse. He is a blessing.

@@sirrayveltal8610 yeah now that I think about it he is

That’s why you beat his ass and take his hat 👍 then when you go back in there and see him he’ll never be wearing the hat again as obviously you took it, and if you’re wearing it he’ll immediately start charging at you and fight to get it back, but his dumbass got knocked out again ✌️

I remember dragging his ass from the bar to the hotel, then throwing him through the second floor window.

I thought we KILLED Tommy and HE'S that big swollen mound in the grave yard. I thought that was almost GTA San Andreas levels of darkly cartoonish. Damn, guess they don't get that credit after all.

Yes and Arthur’s bank robbery of Valentine also goes well.

@@Victoria-gy1tv mmm yea it does actually for a change hell of a heist! Clothing shopping spree after that one lol

@@devinpaul9026 remember Mr Downes stopped Arthur from killing Tommy

@@devinpaul9026 the swollen mound (ooh that sounds dirty!) is probably the sheriffs lover Mrs Moira Calthorpe whom he strangles to death.

Perfect is a strong word

@@grilledleeks6514 gotta be a strong word man. It's hard for something to be perfect in fact damn near impossible

Perfect way to describe the story of Arthur Morgan and the gang

Also funny cause this region is known for its agriculture if i remember correctly

@@samply_the_best valentine is known for the grazing.

Hehe, that's mah boah, hehe.

RDR2 fans come up with an original joke challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

I prefer to be in Van Horn when I have to hide out

Valentine is my favorite town

@@Winston.S.Churchill Ugh,saint denis is my least favorite city due to being too civilized and being an actual big city for a western game,i go there only when i have to.Give me some open spaces and simple folk like John said to Charles while escaping from saint denis

@@Winston.S.Churchill Hi Mr Churchill.

Nah I agree. It feels like a real town. Idk the shrubby outdoors, the charming little church, the banging from the blacksmith / ferrier, and even one of the only doctors in the game to sell tonics to for easy money.

The game is full of things like this. There's a hanging in Rhodes (idk if it can happen elsewhere) that the Sheriff says, while not verbatim but akin to, "This man thought he could leave his outlaw life in the past and live a happy life with a family..." which is essentially what John (and even Arthur) tried to do but it caught up with him.

The Van Der Linde gang does deserve their downfall, at the end of the day. They're outlaws. Criminals. Despite Dutch's attempt to romanticize their lives, Kieran was right. They're brutal thieves and killers just like the O'Driscolls and just like the other gangs. It takes nearly twenty years of kowtowing to Dutch's schemes, but Arthur finally realizes this, albeit too late to save himself. He redeems himself by laying down his own life to save his friends, by absolving Strauss' debts and putting an end to his usury by kicking him out of camp, and by just in general doing the right thing regardless of how much everyone else chastises him. RDR as a series is all about the concept of good within evil and evil within good. The protagonists are all anti-heroes, doing bad things for what they believe to be good reasons but eventually becoming disillusioned with crime and wanting to do better. The antagonists are all anti-villains, forces of good who ultimately seek to accomplish their goals by utilizing tactics one could call dishonorable at best, or abhorrent at worst. Milton and Ross are great examples of that, especially Ross. From the point of view of John, Ross seems like the bad guy because John wanted to leave his old life behind and be normal, his chances of re-offending were low. From the perspective of Ross, and likely society as a whole, they have a former outlaw living a fly's dick away from Blackwater, a former outlaw who is known for being highly skilled with a firearm and extremely dangerous. His chances of re-offending are high because once you're an outlaw you're always an outlaw, and it would likely be better for society if he were gone. Nobody is the good guy here, the world is a bottomless pit of assholes and you have to decide which one you hate the least, just like real life. Honestly it's impressive how well crafted the characters and their backstories are, and how everything weaves together like an intricate spider web. Ever since I realized that, I've been modifying my dual revolvers in RDR2 to be black with silver or gold engraving and a pearl grip, and silver with black engraving and ebony grip, kinda like yin and yang.

Hmmm now that I think about it. Everytime they try to do a robbery or something in Valentine. They almost all get killed and the Pinkertons catch up with them after getting in Valentine a few days later. I dont think its a coincidence.

Nah I don't believe that it was fine in valentine the shit hits the fan after guarma

@@fz7788 Fair enough, that's what I love about games like these, the interpretation is literally up to the player and the story can change based on how you see it

@@danielcarlson7273 I wholeheartedly agree my friend

It started when Micah survived birth

R.I.P Eagle Flies man, such a W character. I love how he saved Arthur's life too when he got attacked by that U.S Army soldier in the oil factory.

That grave is Arthur's so by that point eagle flies was already dead and the attack happened on the oil fields

how can it be foreshadowing something that already happened in the story

@@thomasservon9097 what?

karen dies charles or sadie doesnt believe in it its more likely that more dangerous scenarios you involve yourself in the more like you would die not to mention ptsd

With Karen, who specifically claims she doesn't know, being left ambiguous.

You could be very right, it was very close to the town.

I hated the serial killer dungeon.

Are you talking about the camp in the last chapter? Where is the dungeon?

@@Dallop-ru2 after you’ve found the 3 serial killer clues it will appear on your map just off the path if you’re riding from Valentine to Strawberry, it’s on the same path going to the Downes ranch just b4 it. There’s a cellar door that opens into the killers underground lair.

@jonathanking8429 I think I know what you mean! While I was playing online mode, I found something along that path that I thought was just the place were Arthur gets kidnapped by the O’Driscals. But then I remembered how Arthur runs away and the two locations couldn’t be the same!

The eagle thing has nothing to do with foreshadowing Arthur's death. The artifact mask you find says "Where the eagle lands". the original side quest you had to follow and eagle to where it landed to finish the end of the mission.

He says that in the video

I get the same vibe as Armadillo in RDR (not RDR2 tho). The first time you visit Armadillo it feels like it's pulled straight out of a spaghetti western. Valentine is the perfect evolution of the "first backwater town you visit in the game" vibe, only with more mud lol.

Funnily enough the racism towards blacks in this game might be toned down, the 1890’s were a horrible time for blacks

@@thehaloscrolls391 for pretty anyone who wasn't white Mexicans blacks Natives

@@oldarthurmorgan6319 the Irish

@@thehaloscrolls391 yeah walking through town with lenny i'd expect half the town to be yelling the nword

It was a better, simpler time...

Night activities?

Also, It being named Valentine is Ironic when St. Valentine is the Patron Saint of mental illness, epilepsy, fainting, happy marriages, love, plague, travellers, and young people. In Valentine, you have rampant affaires, Mental Illness (Serial Killers), Fainting (Drunkards, You and Lenny, Angry Tommy), You (A traveller), Not one young person in sight, hate, etc. Valentine is the Antithesis of it's namesake.

That implies they give a shit about there single player games anymore. We would be lucky to even see dlc

@@jeambeam3173 it’s so annoying because the game sold so incredibly well. Them not making DLC is such a massive missed opportunity, especially considering they made almost the entire RDR1 map and it’s basically void of content. I would love to see a RDR1 remake in RDR2.

@@Flav0rful Yeah but they earn more off shark cards I mean Gold then they ever could or would off game sales let alone DLC

Of course it all used to be Wapiti territory. You can even find dreamcatchers in a tree not too far from the town.

It's a serial killer on the lose. More bodies are scattered across the lands. You'll run into him eventually.

@@anonymousr.9333 Really? I've found the bodies but never found the actual guy?

@@pidge108each body location also has a map piece in the area, and the pieced together map leads you to the killer

Facts the game was great. I love my ancestors ❤️

​@@Winston.S.Churchillthose reservations are Government Land

That and Butcher's Creek

What are you on about?

Ik makes me uneasy looking at it

The real curse was tossed when Dutch accepted Micah.

@@SeriousDragonify Micah he was really probably the only one on board to massacre people, and Heckin Dutch went with it, and Arthur questioned it too late, well can’t blame em Dutch did raise him, I mean atleast in some of the endings he gets the merciful one because he got sick and Micah and Dutch let him die out, then again there’s another ending where Micah just shoots Arthur in the head.

@@rubyblood8764 I believe Dutch went insane since Anabelle was killed by Odriscolls. He fell apart from that point till Micah. Arthur however wasnt a good man. He admitted himself. He redeemed himself when he got sickness. Probably was once good when he had family but after that he didnt care for John during Prologue. If it wasnt for Abigail convincing him, probably wouldnt search for him. Dutch didnt care anymore when he recruited Micah. All those years was wasted with revolutions and didnt get awarded for it. The whole part he wanted to speed things up with BW part to everyone retire. Everyone was clouded with his ideology.

YO.SO.WEIRD. Im sitting here playing my 3rd storymode playthrough, while also reading comments. Dude I read your comment, think to myself "Shit, never heard any NPC say that." Bro im in chapter 2, chillin in Strawberry, not 5 mins after i read your comment I go back to playing and this NPC standing in front of the saloon in Strawberry says that about the human hide. So basically, we are in a simulation