The Dagda seems like an absolute Chad. >Shows up to stall the Fomorians >Eats an enormous amount of food >Passes out >Wakes up >Refuses to elaborate >Leaves
I really wanna thank you for your content finding anything on the beliefs of my ancient ancestors is brutally difficult let alone having it fleshed out and broken down in such a way please keep it up and once I know how much I can consistently give you will gain another patron.
Thank you so much for the work you do. When I'm on my feet, I will support you. I can't wait to see this Castle. I've been struggling to understand my deeper roots. The Irish has always been a half of me that there has been scarce knowledge of. You're feeling that void perfectly and making sense of strange occurrences in my life. Much love, respect and good luck!
Wow,I really enjoy this channel. Anyone who knows basics of mythology can tell, you really are doing real research and not just copying other sources or channels as most people do in this topics. I want to thank you for sharing your knowledge because I am researching mostly Indo-European mythology including basics on vedic traditions and I can tell from my research that is no easy task to research or find different information regarding the celtic gods, deities and such..it saddens me that there's not much revival of the celtic gods as there is with the Norse,I find this as what I believe is just mainly because the association with the vikings and the show with the same name. I would really love to see a show just about the time of the pagan cellts and gallic kings just like they did with the show "Britannia "..someone has to do something with lugh..,Setanta!!
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That image of Sucellus around the 7:30 mark, this frontal image appears in a lot of sources. I recently saw an image of this taken from the side and was shocked to see that the discs are actually mallet heads, five smaller mallets radiating out of a huge central mallet. Why something that fundamentally alters the way you see something is left out of common sources always amazes me. I suspect the Dagda is also related to the Green Knight from the Beheading Game tale. The similar tale involving CuChulainn and CuRoi as the giant, has CuRoi appear in rags with a grey cloak about him (the Welsh colour glas can mean green or grey) and holding an uprooted tree in one hand and a giant axe in the other. His ability to not die after having his head cut off also parallels the life and death attribute of Dagda. CuRoi is also associated with Daire, an ancestral figure of the Darini/Erainn who gave their name to Ireland which also fits into the allfather (Ollathair) characteristic of the Dagda - assuming Dagda and Eochaid Ollathair are the same.
Very well done. Work getting an overview of any of the Celtic gods is always difficult because we're dealing with literally hundreds in my opinion a versions of those gods across the entire continent and even within Great Britain a multiplicity of tribes with varying interpretations of that God very difficult to do definitely did a stellar job on this one. I'm not a 100% certain that at the 2nd battle of moytura where the Dagda Meets and couples with the Morrigan That she is in her destructive aspect I have come to the conclusion that much as you present the Dagda here the Morrigan is very much his female equivalent. I think he is meeting and coupling with her generative mother aspect. Danu. Perhaps you could do a similar overview of your opinion of the Morrigan at some point. Again kudos
Thank you very much for all the work you have done in the time you have spent it has been so helpful on figuring out our past and making sense of our future
You do make him seem like a benevolent Chronos here... I wonder if you will feed that into your (at the time of writing) recent Greek Mythology series.
Zeus had also chthonic form, Meilechios,Maimakterion. Food is giving the flesh and if your flesh bind with hades like persephone or nergal you cannot leave.
This is what i believe of the Daghdha. Dagda, is the Irish equivalent of the original PIE Sky Father. Dagda states that he will cause “three showers of fire (teorai frasae tened) to pour on the faces of the Fomoire hosts”. This fire shower could scarcely correspond to anything but lightning. So too, Dagda has a lorg mór “great staff”, which is noted to have a “smooth end and a rough end. One end slays the living and the other end brings the dead back to life”. In India, Índraḥ, the controller of the Middle Region, has an ańkuśáḥ “hook, goad” which accomplishes the same thing as the Dagda’s staff. In Scandinavia, Thórr, the son of the controller of the Upper Realm, controls the hammer Mjllnir with the same properties as the ańkuśáḥ. As these latter two gods utilize the club or hammer in the production of lightning (or at least possess lightning), the Dagda originally must surely have done so as well. Again as in Irish sources, there is some ambiguity in Roman sources as to who controls the thunderbolt. Archaic Roman Iuppiter is a development of the original PIE Sky Father. He is the progenitor of the other gods and all beings through his mating with Mother Earth by means of the life-giving fertile rains. In Rome as in Greece, the realm of the Sky included the clouds as well as the heavens. In bringing the rain clouds, this deity would naturally also have a tendency to control the thunder and lightning which came with them. But the son of this Sky Father, the one who is the king and controller of the realm of the Sky, would also have a claim to hurling lightning. Eochaid-Dagda corresponds with Krónos (Ouranós). Of Eochaid’s sons, Conchobar is associated with the Upper Region (Ulster in the North), Fergus with the Middle Region (Mide, Connaught, and Leinster), and Cú Rói with the Lower Region (Munster in the South). Just as Poseidōn is exiled for rebellion against Zeús, so too Fergus is exiled for rebellion against Conchobar. The differences to be found among equivalent controller deities from various IE subcultures can be explained through mutual inter-borrowing or usurping of traits by several deities within a three-generation group: (1) the Sky Father, (2) his sons (the controller gods of the three realms), and (3) the son of the Upper-Realm controller. Thus Zeús has acquired traits (including his name) from his father, the original PIE Sky Father. These traits, such as his fathering Persephónē and Apóllōn, should more properly belong to Krónos or Ouranós (as they are preformed elsewhere by Dyāuḥ and Dagda, gods equivalent to Ouranós). Most of the attribute transferences among the gods, however, arose not around father-son disputes over the control of power, but around who controls the thunderbolt. As noted, which god has which attributes depends to a large extent on whether the clouds and their resulting rain, thunder, and lightning are included in the Upper or the Middle Realm of being. I do not see him as the God of the Death, that role, is for Donn or Cú Roí-Manannán Mac Lír.
The Platonists and Orphics considered Kronos and Zeus to be the same God as seen in the Derveni Papyrus which is a philosophical allegorical commentary on Orphic poetry.
"The most primitive & simple of religious beliefs among both northern & southern races connected the object with the divinity, & when the Ancients declared the Oak sacred to Zeus, they identified the tree with the god-in other words, the tree itself was the god, & in very primitive times was worshipped as such. This hypothesis is still ******* further elaborated by the fact that the Oak is the tree most often struck by lightning******, & Zeus, being the God of Thunder, or the Thunder itself, dwelt in, or rather had his being in, an Oak tree. Prof. Harris puts it thus: "The Thunder-god goes back to the Thunder-man, or into the Thunder-bird or Thunder-tree; Zeus takes the stately form in vegetable life of the Oak-tree, or if he must be flesh & blood, he comes back as a Red-headed Woodpecker. " The parasites of the Oak such as Mistletoe & Ivy, would evidently partake of the attributes of the tree & would thus be the thunder also. In the case of the Ivy a new & subordinate Thunder God would become evolved under the name of Dionysos, & Prof. Harris says: "Dionysos is the ivy; in the first instance he is ivy, nothing more or less" ; & again; "The tree is the thunder & makes all its parasites & its denizens thunder also."" [The Forest: In Folklore & Mythology, Alexander Porteous, 1928/2002, p. 160-61]
As a Shaman, I can offer a little bit of clarity, the Dagda is the Greater soul of the protagonist, the title of the "God" that is "you". Every human has their own Dagda. I find that using science kinda works better than the songs made in the time of gods. The universe we observe is within a 3 dimensional space. Greater Gods are 4 dimensional beings that choose to incarnate which means they drop a piece of their energy like rain into a human vessel. Like if a human writes an autobiography, they create a 2 dimensional version of themself. The Dagda is what the book version of the human would call the writer if they suddenly gained sentience and observed the writer impacting their life. The Dagda enjoys experiencing a mortal timeline hence its affiliations with time, seasons, but also interactions with everything else. Took a heavy detour, but I hope you get it. In the Vedas the Dagda is your Aatma, the greater fire of where your soul originates. But I get how it was interpreted as Agni, since the soul energy is widely recognized as flame like. And the sun is a big ball of energy that life depends on so it's a very logical connection. Since "Love via coitus" was the poetic standard of the era of gods, the concept of a soul planting it's seed in a body a metaphoric parallel to mortal procreation. Hence why Sky, Sun gods were seen as "Male" and earth, Female. It's pretty neutral though, every God is so extra it's like a drag show. I understand why humanity opted to change the church focus from natural features to the "Father" god but as per usual, so close but sorta got it wrong and now it's just uncomfortable to look at.
The Dagda being associated with horses and the Morrigan being associated with crows makes me think her riding on his back alludes to a Crow riding on the back of a horse.
I was originally turned off to the crude nature of his myths but then I realized Dagda is supposed to be a *human* God. He's supposed to be holy, but also like us.
