Damian Lillard just requested a trade from the Portland Trailblazers, and the Brooklyn Nets, Miami Heat, LA Clippers, Philadelphia 76ers and more are expected to try and trade for him this offseason. #lillard #damianlillard #lillardtrade
This hurts as a non Portland fan, some of those teams were really good to root for. I always wanted him to get a ring in Portland to reward his loyalty and because I love that city.
Damian Lillard would likely become the number one option on the Miami Heat. The offense would get an insane boost. To make the best team possible, Miami needs to sign some bigs and they can be cheap too.
Even with Lillard, they have no size!!! Not enough to beat the nuggets. And even with Lillard, they are still one injury away from not making the playoffs. An injury to Bam, Butler, or Lillard they don't have enough to get over the hump!!!
As a blazers fan, I'm just so happy for dame, I'd even sacrifice some trade value if it meant getting him to the Heat, he has shown nothing but loyalty the past 12 years and I got nothing but love for bro. peace out dame
After the CJ and Norm trades, it's been utter carcrash for us. Cronin has fallen into 2 good drafts, but his trades have been shockingly bad. We'll end up trading Dame for nothing, I fear. Cronin and Jody Allen need to go. We either needed to get way more from the CJ and co trades or have traded Dame as soon as Ant proved he could play.
@kevinkruse88 if we paid Grant and made a move sending out Watford, Ant and whatever to somehow magically bring in a small forward? That would have worked. Now we have Grant lodged in place until January...
@@kevinkruse88 To be fair if they let Grant walk the Blazers would be criticized for getting nothing out of him especially having traded 1 first and 2 seconds to get him from the Pistons. Anfernee Simons would be the largest guaranteed contract with the team and he's gonna be moved either way so the Blazers gotta find a dude worth signing to keep their salary floor for multiple years. For better or worse Grant's signing fulfills this.
I love Dame and he deserves playing where he wants to. He has been loyal, patient and a team player all his life and indeed career. I just hope he plays for a team that does right by him and gives him a legit chance of getting a chip.
Also the lakers had much better assets than compared to what the heat are offering. Ingram, a healthy lonzo ball, Josh hart, multiple picks and I think nance was apart of that. That was a haul and a half. Hell the blazers wish they could get that for dame right now
Honestly, a trade to the Heat would be fine, as a Blazers fan. Erik Spoelstra is actually a hometown hero in his own right, having grown up in Portland and playing college ball at the University of Portland. It'd be cool to see those two team up.
I don't think Miami will result in any more winning than Dame had in Portland. The Heat will play good basketball and South Beach is much better for recruiting bargain free agents but the roster isn't going to fill out like it might in Philly. I want to see Dame on a winner not a 'lets hope enough players show up to help' situation
Dude, who tf cares about what's good for the Heat, what matters is what is good for the Blazers organization, and trading Dame to Miami for peanuts would be a disaster for the Blazers. Dame is fucking us by saying that Miami is the only team that he wants to be traded to and Dame fucked us by requesting this trade just one day after he got Jerami Grant paid.
@@LunaticTheCat You just trying to be mad. Dame gave 90% of his prime to Portland and now that his money is secure he has a chance to find some of that Kevin Garnett legacy. I know how it feels to have a superstar want out when you want to see them build around him but it ain't happening in Portland. They got some good players and if Dame brings them building blocks they could be better off 2 years from now than if they tried to keep him and didn't win enough
If the blazers called me asking if I wanted to take on grants contract I’d laugh and hang up. Bro went from the most underrated player in the league for almost 1/2 a decade, to by far the worst contract in the league. If not sports
You wrong about the Jermi Grant thing that is literally why he asked to be traded that money should've went to a legit piece to help win no overpay for a legit 6 man
The Blazers have all the leverage and have no obligation to trade him to Miami or Brooklyn. They can hold out as long as they want and wait for something better than scrubs and picks.
Yeah I think so - plus I think the location will matter to dame having played in a small market his whole career. Also they’ve just resigned Khris Middleton on a nice deal so can’t see them doing anything too wild
Here's a 4 team deal with Dame going to Miami that makes sense. Miami gets Dame. Blazers get Demar Derozan, Nikola Jovic, and 2 firsts. Bulls get Tyler Herro, a 1st pick swap, and 2 blazers seconds. Spurs get Kyle Lowry and 2 seconds. Who says no and why?
As a Nets fan, I actually don't think they should do this trade. Even with Dame, the Nets are going to probably be a mid-level playoff team at best, and selling off all those draft picks to be a perennial 4th seed isn't exactly the most appealing option. Dame's got a much better chance contending with the Heat, and Brooklyn is probably 3 - 5 years out. Unless Brooklyn can find a rebounding big man that's ready to be a contributer right now, the window isn't there for Dame on the Nets.
Know what this is one of the few times a superstar requested a trade and the fan base is kinda like "yeah, hate to see him go but he deserves better". He spent a decade with the team, never had any off court issues, played his best, stuck with them in an era were stars are quick to form super teams or join a big market team and he went through years of playing on a middle of the pack team without complaint. He deserves a good opportunity at winning before his prime is over with
Dame has a ton of years left on his deal. If Joe Cronin wants to keep his job, he should probably just go with the best trade package. There are plenty of other teams that Dame would make a contender. He may prefer Miami. But ultimately, from what we know about Dame as a person, I think he'll make the most of wherever he's traded as long as they're competing for titles. New Orleans, OKC, and Boston should be mentioned in this. They all have the assets to trade for Dame and still field a great team around him. In fact, I think any of them would be the clear favorite with Dame. Boston's offer would be Jaylen Brown and a few picks. Boston SHOULD do this, but they won't. Instead, they're going to saddle themselves with a player who's not worth $60 million and doesn't complement Tatum. New Orleans and OKC obviously both have a TON of picks they can put on the table. New Orleans could also throw in an attractive young player.
Taking that Herro deal (slightly overpaid) and Robinson (grossly overpaid) and not even getting rid of Nurkic's deal in addition to Grant's new monster is exteremly bad imo
Idk why the Blazers would want Maxey back in a trade, not that he's a bad player, but he doesn't make sense with who they have there in Scoot, Simmons, and Sharpe
as much as I want Dame to be in Miami the trade packages that other teams can do would be better for Portland as a franchise BUT it would just put Dame back at being on a team that is not competitive to win a title.
@@hec231 I mean honestly who cares about what the other stars think. He gave most of his career to them so if they for some reason wanted to reward him then maybe it would make other players realize that Loyalty can work out instead of just thinking of themselves and not wanting to fulfill contracts that they sign. But like I said I do not see it being a good business move for them to just trade him for the lesser value.
@@PaulSman123 you know who should care? A small market team that already has trouble attracting big free agents. A perception that they screwed over Dame after he gave them everything he had would not be good for business, imo. But I do get your point. Their front office is in a tough spot.
Why would Dame leave Portland to try to win a championship, and go to Brooklyn. I think that's just being rumored to put more pressure on Miami to offer that full package
I still can't believe people say loyalty blah blah blah... the dude is making like 30-50 mil a year, being the franchise player of a decent Western team and I don't think the Blazers have completely failed to put stars around him... media and fans make it sound like this guy been working like a peasant for free in some Siberian farm lol
I wouldn't call holding a franchise hostage like Dame has "loyalty." Loyalty is him trusting his GMs and coaches, not constantly leaking stories about thinking about requesting a trade if they don't chuck assets and make hasty, bad decisions to keep him. I'm just glad he's getting traded so we don't have to hear about it anymore. At least until two years from now when he's upset again and starts "being loyal" to his new team.
Cronin specifically said they’ll prioritize the good of franchise in any trade scenario. I think if Dame is going to Miami a third or even fourth team will need to be involved
3 team trade proposal 🤔🤔🤔 Portland receive: Ben Simmons + Cam Johnson + Claxton + Payton Pritchard + 4 first round picks from Nets + 2 second round pick from Boston Nets receive: Damian Lillard + Nurkic Boston receive: Royce O'Neal
Not saying Harden is better than Dame but I don’t understand why people think Embiid and Dame would get farther than Embiid and Harden. Even if Maxey is still there, there is just no defense, and absolutely no depth. They won’t be good enough to beat the Bucks or Celtics and not to mention Joel gets injured every time. I see the same result happening which one of the reasons why Harden wants to get out of that franchise, they’re damn near poverty down there in Philly.
I don’t think signing Damian will affect their regular season record that much but he is much more clutch and reliable in the playoffs than Harden. This may be the move that pushes them, but I also see a world where they once again get bounced in the 2nd round due to the points you brought up.
I don’t understand the Brooklyn POV. No way he’s going there as it’d screw up the entire rebuild just for them to be bounced in the first round at best. If the GM’s smart he’ll use those picks for younger players or just use them. Trying to do both a rebuild and win now has worked out for noone, just look at when they were in New Jersey
Joe Cronin immediately said that the contract they agreed to with Jerami Grant will not be altered in anyway by Dame being traded. As a Blazers fan, I am so irritated by it, but it is absolutely what I expected to hear and see from this team's Front Office. Its as impeccably inline with their MO. And with that contract, its also inflated, which lowers the overall value we can get back if we trade him with it.The Trendon Watford waiver was further amplified as a horrible decision from both that contract and Dame's request. We lost Drew Eubanks. No one is dumb enough to take on Nurk's contract. Half of the fanbase and the front office want to keep and build around Ant instead of trade him. I just... someone shoot me please
That’s cute ppl think he might go to Brock the odds of that is low. KD wanted PHO he got PHO. Harden wanted Philly. He got Philly. Stars of that caliber usually get what they want
In what world should Portland “Do right by Dame”? You know he wasn’t staying in Portland for free right? He stuck with them to earn the largest NBA contract In League history…..which he rightfully got. Good for him! And now that he’s secured that, and the team is heading nowhere fast, he’s willing to go back on his word and leave the Blazers. I don’t blame him for a second……I also don’t blame Portland for maximizing what they can get in return for him. The organization shouldn’t trade him to where he wants to go. They OWE IT TO THEIR FAN BASE to maximize what they can get in return. Dame will be making $220Million over the next 4 years regardless of where he plays. He willingly signed that contract.
For any Dame Trade that involves Herro a 3 or even 4-team trade needs to be done. But is Tyler Herro valuable enough around the league and what assets potential trade partners have that could be seen as enough to trade Dame? The Nets could make sense, but since they're candidates for Dame as well, they're off the table. The Bulls could be a potential trade partner, but they have to include one of Demar DeRozan or Zach Lavine and maybe throw in Lonzo Ball as a salary dump, but I'm not sure the Blazers would be interested in DeRozan and don't think Lavine wants to go to Portland either. The Jazz have picks from the Minnesota Timberwolves, but don't have players the Blazers would want (maybe they could capitalize on Markkanen's MIP season). The Blazers don't want or need another guard in Tyler Herro, when they are already locked in with Scoot Henderson, Anfernee Simons and Shaedon Sharpe, nor the albatross contracts of Lowry and Duncan Robinson. In the end Portland could lose Dame for next to nothing, which will be a massive L considering what hauls were given for James Harden, Rudy Gobert, Donovan Mitchell and Kevin Durant. It could most likely resemble the haul the Washington Wizards got for Bradley Beal.
Can a Brooklyn fan tell me why yall want dame even with him would be a first round exit i feel they should be focusing on rebuilding around bridges instead of mortgaging the future by giving up the picks
If Im Portland I try and reroute Herro for more picks. I like Herro, but theyve already got quite a bit of young depth at guard. I think theres a couple teams that might pay a pick or two to reroute him to their organization. As a Celtics fan, Im kinda annoyed we pulled off a deal for Porzingis when I think he would have still been on the table right now but they would have remained a bit more flexible in terms of a Damian Lillard deal. Anything but Brown and Tatum, and all their picks going forward (even though I hate giving up a decade worth of picks) he would have fit in nicely and I think pushed them over the top.
@@WLJ1287 Yeah I think youre right. I dont even think Boston would have been able to match any offer from Miami or another organization anyway. It still would have been nice to have been in the play. I think theres a bunch of reasons why, but stars never seem to want to go to Boston lol in these types of situations, despite the fact that theyve been one of the best organizations over the last 15 years in terms of building competitive and sustainable winners. Feels like the only way Boston gets stars these days is by drafting them, which Im not complaining about lol. But it would be nice seeing a top 15 guy here or there say Bostons on their list lol.
IMO this is a negative to Damian’s Legacy. I hope that whether he gets moved or not, people start to wake up and take that “Loyalty” tag away from Dame. Is it too late for the Blazers to rescind their offer to Grant or work a sign and trade.
Not that I ever expect much from Portland but if we got Ben Simmons I would stop going to games. I don't want to waste my time watching him destroy the team. Brooklyn needs to just take the L on Ben. I can't imagine a single gm in the league being stupid enough to pay for that dead weight.
lmao it's so funny whenever I hear people say they "reward his loyalty". He wanted the most money that's it. I'm 300% positive if another team, preferably a winning team could have offered Dame the figures Portland did he would not be there. Let's be real here.
Sure, but nobody else was able to offer him the supermax. Dame was paid a lot more money in Portland than he would have anywhere else. They need to get the best offer and move on.
I would keep Maxey and this trade would be more of salary dump.for each team(grant for harris) to sweeten the pot for both teams. Definitely would need a 3rd team to help. But mainly swapping harden for Lillard. Miami inst a choice anymore since struss & Gabe are gone
dame is not more important than our whole franchise i’ll miss him but we gotta send him to whoever has the best package to give us he doesn’t have a ntc our future is more important than dames
Sports logically, good commentary, good analysis. You should be working for a GM. In my opinion your trade suggestions are awesome now that more teams are involved. All depends if Portland really wants Dane to have success, and with their success tied in it with draft picks and young players. My opinion is time for the Scoot Henderson era to start. All these people that really like him say that he is a can’t miss perspective all star. We will see now. James Harden to the clippers is interesting, I’m hoping they just don’t tree Kwai Leonard and PG, because injuries are part of the game. They’ve just had injuries, why Leonard play well in the beginning of the playoffs against Phoenix, but got hurt in the second game and still put up 30 points. Paul George didn’t get a chance. They have James Harden beside one of those guys will make them a dangerous team. They’ve been successful against the Lakers since Kawhi Leonard has been been there. I just hope that Dane chooses Miami and they can get enough pigs to Portland to allow him to go where he wants to go. I don’t like the Philadelphia thing because Joel Embiid is going to cry and whine no matter what maybe he could learn something from Dame Lillard, and how leaders don’t do their own players on the bus.
If I was Portland I would get on the phone with Brooklyn yesterday and start trying to get Cameron Johnson and some of those firsts. Nothing Miami has to offer interests me.
Brooklyn seems only to be in this as a place to live for dame. Nets bias on this account. Realistically they aren’t even a contender if they give up nothing for dame. The package of players they could give means nothing to the position Portland is in now. Comes down to the draft picks alone. Practically guaranteed Miami gets another team involved to get more assets sent to blazers for herro. Whilst not on the list of preferred teams, pelicans should be calling as they have the assets to spare while still keeping their core.
Blazer fan, Trade Grant and Dame together to the Nets for Cam and Simmons. I don't want Simmons, but there is at least a mix of improving the Nets while sending Dame out, getting the most in return, and Nets dump Simmons. Then the Blazers dump Simmons next year with the expiring contract
Why’d you think that Herro is more valuable than Kyle Lowry? Kyle Lowry is a one year contract with veteran experience can help Scoot and Simons. Portland also wants to trade Nurkic away. The Brooklyn advantage will be two TPE 18m&19m can be used for acquiring Dame +Nurkic. Simmons+5FRP+TPE Dame+Nurkic In this scenario The nets roster will be way better than the heats. Plus the Simmons contract can help blazer’s fill the minimum salary spending amount.
