The Dark Crystal Puppeteers Chat About How They Bring Puppets To Life | Netflix 

Second Season is inevitable, even if its renamed The Gartham Wars. And I'm with you. What they do with puppetry transcends the art from art to something almost real.

@@wiilov and the coolest thing is unlike meeting a voice actor for an animated character you really can meet a puppet character in real life in a way that's far beyond just meeting a voice actor

no kidding these aren't "practical effects" either they are actual animated characters.

I agree... Puppetry is amazing!! In this world of computer graphics we need to revive puppetry...

That really went above and beyond with this show.

Jessica same

Yeah, you don't really realize how huge those costumes/puppets are until you see them next to a human (like in the "making of" documents)

The entire head is above a human, so that's why they're so TALL!

Wait, so how tall are gelflings?

@@fawnieee about 1 m or so I think (that's about 3 ft in the imperial units), maybe a bit taller, also it depends on the gelfling in question obviously.

The actors are just so great with there voice acting and emotions and how its all filmed and edited and just the dream fasting scenes those were always emotional for me and the aspect of it

“When you do something right, people won’t be sure you’ve done anything at all.” Like they said, it’s easy to spot bad puppetry, but good puppetry looks so natural.

I never do. I am always aware that they aren't real creatures, however that isnt the actors fault. I am an artistic person so I see the behind the scenes part of it. I am constantly thinking "How did they do that?" "What kinda of paint did they use for that?" "How did they get that level of detail in silicone?"

Bruh the number of times I stopped and remembered they weren't real is kinds sad 😭

That's Henson for you. I'm a grown man and I still have to remind myself once in a while whenever I see any of his (or his studio's) work that it's puppetry.

Van Helsing, among many, should've just be threw in a dumpster instead of this

We will get a season 2 somehow someway! Mark my words!

Then do a petition to bring it back

Me too, im addicted. i just bought the figures and a shirt

luvzfrance24 Same! I even made my own community for it, haha.

Same! I loveeeee The Dark Crystal. I've watched the movie so many times

I remember the movie very well and when I stumbled acrossed this my heart skipped a beat Jim would of been so proud of this there continuing his legacy

Jim Henson would be happy Rest In Peace Jim Henson

I would watch it :)

That would be so cute

The podling show🥳🥳🥳

I find this story worked better as a Tv show than the original movie. there was more time to appreciate the characters and explain the complex lore

That is such a nice idea!!! :D

I've been dreaming of this since I watched it. Would love to play as a Gelfling!

@@evantessler1891 If I played in it i'd wanna play a Grunak who get's free and wants revenge on the Skeksis. Or a Podling because Podling's are great

That is a fantastic idea. Although for skeksis speed do you think it'd be better to use the Hunter or the other skeskis as a base stat?

@@RhiRhiCampbell I'd use the other Skeksis as a base stat and have The Hunter have improved stats and speed, maybe even other class skills due to him preserving his health better through exercise. It's like how certain NPCs in Faerun are much weaker now in 5th edition than they were in 3rd, with them having to almost re-learn much of their magic after the Spellplague and also not having as many world ending threats to deal with that weren't being handled already by adventurers. It was done to balance the game for the new system, but theirs also the lore reason which works out pretty nicely :D

Same

I would like your comment but it's at 69 so I'll leave it to God now.

@@420Effect Thank you for your valiant service, soldier o7

@@kayterquarter442 lol, damn this reminds me I gotta watch the last episode of the show!!! I knew they didn't redeem it so I'm like ugh I don't want to lose the magic and be left with hella questions so after episode 9 I was like "I cant do it, Ima savor it"

@@420EffectThe last episode does leave off on a major cliffhanger, but hey! The story will hopefully be continued in comics, and there’s a documentary on the behind the scenes, so that makes the cancellation sting a little less if that helps...

@@kayterquarter442 see I heard the same thing and that's why I'm just ugh not looking forward to walk to that cliff and realize wow that's it , because unfortunately even though I get where they are going with it I'm not just not gonna be buying the comic I'm sure I'll find out what happens but damn Netflix how much money do you need to actually fund a show that actually just entertains people without buying you points in some area or checks this box or idk how do you take such a beautiful show, a real piece of art made by a true genius and just wait til the guy passes away and then anounce that "hey we decided just now that quality isn't the goal it's quantity and since this doesn't do anything except entertain a strong cult following and create new modern mythos we're gonna have to cancel it, it's just too hard for us to see how this story could be used to communicate the things we are required to communicate to our viewers, and we know it's one of a long list of shows we didn't finish but did you see Thunder Force?" Yah sorry Netflix I'm gonna spend a lil bit not consuming your content I'm sure I'll be back but Dam you took something that nearly transcends every other piece of fairy tale type content, infact you almost invented a new genre, but, I can see that it was too much work and didn't pander to anyone I mean they're all puppets so how could we use it for anything other then pure entertainment escapism which isn't our job, our job is to bring you todays social issues and...". Okay Netflix you have a ton of power to do whatever why get rid of show that offended no one and that could've ended up being a modern classic, something like a lord of the rings but for a wider rage of audiences something a kid could watch with their family, idk this stuff is reminiscent of a time when there wasn't always another incentive to entertainment, I miss Jim Henson honestly he was the type of person we are missing right now everyone taking a side and an angle that puppets are controversial because they can't be used as a means to an end? Or because Netflix can't be bothered to recognize greatness infront them after so many years of crushing it in the industry? Nothing is immune to dying off people are really sensitive about what they are consuming right now, why not make something for everyone and watch how much better the world will be for it .

CountOrlok22 I hope they do :)

Oh trust me, we do. I’m a puppeteer myself.

My assumption (just based on how such things are usually done in the industry) is that SkekMal's head is a remotely controlled animatronic part attached to a helmet the actor wears with the actors actual head pretty much inside the suits neck, all the puppetry (and likely voice work) is done off the shot with remotes and microphones while the suit actor pretty much just provides the base body movements. It's often how they do these kinds of suits, granted on a less elaborate level since you rarely have voice work involved with such parts (these parts are just monsters most of the time, they roar but not much else)

Skekmal was the hunter right? He moved like a human if thts who ur talking about. I don't wanna ruin it for the people who didnt see it...lol.

FINALLY! A person with a Reg pfp!

Reuben Caldwell in the documentary on how they made it, it says all the Skeksis are full body puppets

I thought skekmal was cgi

I'd watch that.

You can thank joe biden for cancelling it.

Yup, that was exactly the case. The voice actors actually had to be careful so that they matched/aligned their voices with the puppets' mouth movements.

Yes indeed. You could say that is the reason why each character in the dark crystal have two actors attached to them.

To be fair it would be kind of weird to just move the mouth without saying anything. Or do you mean they would try to match the puppets mouths with the voice actors on set? I guess that's doable too if harder. Personally, I think you get much more realism and synchronisation if the puppeteer is also the voice actor like in many of the Muppet shows.

@@explorer47422 Sort of both? They do the voices while shooting so the "flaps" work properly, so it feels intuitive to do the mouth movements. So the voice actor has both the flaps and the original acting to reference. It definitely requires some skill in voice acting on the part of the puppeteer or the flaps will force bad acting.