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You can actually find Patches, injured at the Shaded Castle, and he will give you the castanets and directly ask you to give them to Tanith. He says he hates to see her so upset. And I think her supposed "rejection" of them is actually another lie, because you don't get the castanets back, she takes them.
It also appears that patches came to volcano manor because he has a thing for tanith, which explains how he got his hands on her item..food for thought .
@@jankieek8218 i didnt kill him on my first playthrough, couldnt handle the guilt, but it was worth it on my second run when i was face tanking everything, his armor is some of, if not the best heavy pieces.
14:51 Tanith was a dancer in the Land of Shadow??? Also, it'd make sense during the veiling of the Land of Shadow by Marika this potion was given to her to forget as this place was basically removed from history. I think it's possible that these tonics of forgetfulness were given to the lords of the Lands Between, but Rykard refused his hence why there was one remaining for Tanith to give to Rya. This could be how Rykard still embraced the blasphemous existence as an ally to Mesmer (assuming the depraved perfumers were servants of Mesmer as suggested in their garments and perfume/sleep stuff seems quite relevant in the DLC trailer)
Your voice just has a certain quality that makes it perfect for narration! Have you ever considered a career in voice-over? Edit: well this aged well. Check out Siren, a mermaid RPG.
Thank you! I had never even considered voice-over work until I started making videos and was suprised to get comments talking about my voice. I really appreciate you thinking I could do something like that; i think I might just look into it some more :)
@@miss_chalice to be honest, I also come for your voice. It is the calmness and tempo of it that I love. You don't rush through the script/text, and it feels more storytelling-appropriate.
The tarnished you hunt are depicted as “good” in their armor descriptions. You are tasked with killing more righteous, beloved tarnished as the quest progresses. Very foul indeed.
Rykard's ambitions and path simply became might makes right in the end which in a fashion is more depraved and hollow the Golden order's path of order for the sake of order. Rykard declares he would not be bound and yet bound himself to the great serpent then went about binding champion after champion to himself and his ambitions by force until he was defeated by force. He ultimately became a more depraved and distorted version of what he opposed in the first place.
Eh - no. She doesn't pronounce 'S' very well - almost as if there's too much saliva on her tongue - unsure if that's due to concentration to speak the way she does or if it is actually a minor speech impediment.
@@Strayed199i noticed that too. i actually checked one of her older videos and it sounded like she can pronounce the "ss" just fine, it could simply be the way she mixes her audio to reduce the harshness of that "ss" sound but I'm not sure
this was implied but never stated out right, so just to elaborate: would Zorayas's journey ultimately be to consume Tanith, who consumed serpent/rykard, continuing the cycle? a truly excellent storyline
Well that would make sense if it weren't for the fact that there were more man-snakes like zorayas in the mansion, but that could be possible since zorayas is the only man-snake capable of thought.
Also, you fight a godskin noble where the serpent amniotic is and it is further proof that the birth ritual was conducted there because decadare was flayed.
I really want you to cover most of the concrete lore of Elden ring, because you make it so concise and to the point, while creating a vibe of serene story to fall asleep to and at the same time not skipping any important info or details. Really well done Miss Chalice!
Thank you Azael! I'm really happy you notice my efforts to be concise, there is so much to cover! I would like to continue this story-like vibe and hope you will enjoy!!
“May your visit be fruitful” when you look into that phrase, Lady Tanith is both hoping you will be good food for Rykard, OR, you come out on top, due to their beliefs
I have been falling asleep to your videos since I found your channel a week ago (I mean that well). You and Vaatividya should voice every exposition-providing NPC in FromSoft games forever.
One of the things I love the most about volcano manner is that Tanith, well and beyond rising to the station of a noble despite her heritage, immediately melts into an adoring mother the second that you bring up Rya. All of her ceremony and stature just fades away to a deeply concerned adoptive mother and I'm here for it
@@jbark678 Alive and unharmed at that too (well physically unharmed at least). She's the only one that remains unscathed besides Roderika. I fully believe we made Sellen's life worse by the time we finish the quest.
@@Nirob615 I don't think we're really to blame for Sellen's fate. We are the one to assist her in reaching her goals, but Sellen ultimately makes her own choices, and can be seen as a cautionary tale about pursuing forbidden knowledge. And while I quite like her, I don't get the impression she is a good person like many of the other tragic characters we meet.
So I’m sitting here as usual thinking “I know Tanith’s voice, like really well, but how?” Just discovered she is voiced by Gemma Whelan, who played Yara Greyjoy in GOT, easily one of the best actors around! Also, glad I found your channel, I’ve never been as engrossed in video game lore as I have whist exploring the lands between, long may it continue!
Great video as always. My question is: What were they doing at volcano manor? What's with all the tortures and the imprisonment of the abinaurics? He builded an army of machines for the sole purpose of torturing people, but why? Also was Rykard actively trying to "replace" the humankind with men serpent throught rituals or they are just "natural serpent spawn", a byproduct of the snake god?
Rykard is not the only one who rebelled against the golden order. All the demi-gods except Morgott did. The fact that Marika was unable to stop her children from defying the Golden Order conveys one of the most important ideas of Elden Ring: The gods are fickle. The suffering of the world is because they are not all-knowing and powerful. Most of Elden Rings endings basically spit on the gods in some way by establishing a new order that exposes their powerlessness. Why is that? Because in the presence of free will there cannot be absolute order and without free will there cannot be faith and therefore the gods lose their power. Ranni's Age of the Stars attempts to fix this dilemma by establishing an order that is uncertain. We have to assume that Ranni's order is imperfect just like Marika's because Ranni could not be a god if nobody believed in her. But by keeping her order a secret she makes it hard to be defied because nobody knows what constitutes an act of heresy.
This has got to be one of the best questlines I've ever experienced in a game. There's so many mythic motifs in this quest that get turned on their head and given a whole new realm of meaning. The snake amnion and the blasphemous birth. That alone feels like a mythological motif I would kill to hear people like Joseph Campbell just go off on. And then that ending of finding Tanith devouring the devourer is utterly epic. All of the traditional theological themes of Lilith and Luciferian pride that western culture is already familiar with just amplify the potency of this questline even further. I can't stop nerding out about how badass the story line of this quest is. I really hope the right writers, crafters, and meaning makers expound upon the elements of this story and do it justice in other mediums as well. It's simply too good not to explore more! Thank you for the brilliant synopses!
I wonder about Daedicar. We never see her, but she seems devoted to the cause of Volcano Manor. Utterly devoted. Like a certain woman. A woman who has a tonic of forgetfulness. Who may have taken it and forgotten the blasphemies she committed. After all, using multiple names is practically a given in Elden Ring, many characters do it. Maybe she forgot her original name. Maybe she forgot that she gave birth to a lovely snek girl. Or maybe I'm just throwing theories at the wall and seeing what sticks.
Unfortunately the tonic itself gives counter evidence to the idea. It states directly that the tonic was given to Tanith by Rykard before he fed himself to the serpent, in the case that his sacrifice was too awful for her to bear. "A gift bestowed by Rykard, sworn to blasphemy, to Lady Tanith, who unfortunately had no use for it. "My Lord, there could be no greater distress than to forget you."
In response to your last question: Conceptually, rising against the Erdtree is probably good. Marika/Radagon is a bit of a shit, and the Greater Will clearly does not have good intentions in controlling the Lands Between. But eating a bunch of people to gain their power? Probably not the most optimal way of bettering the world, I must say. Tl;dr Rykard's plan: Good concept, 0/10 execution
That seems to be a constant. Every faction which openly opposes the erdtree is generally pretty awful. Volcano Manor also orders you to hunt tarnished who are pretty good people like Tarsog as well as, you know, eating people. The Dung Eater is the Dung Eater, enough said. Those who live in death are, actually no they don't seem that bad. Goldmask is damaging simply because he's so enigmatic. The frenzied flame is nihilism taken to an extreme. Ranni kills all her allies at the end of her quest and started the night of black knives. Miqella is implied to be manipulating everyone around him for his own benefit. Moghs Favourite song is sweet home Alabama.
@@sapiensursus3034 to play simps advocate but when the establishment you're going up against has: armies, an extremely varied magical arsenal, Stockholm syndrome extra horny edition, Dragons, literally God , and Death itself and you got a furry, a weirdo, a big ass bookworm grampa, and some mute motherfucker with a horse-goat you take every advantage and sacrifice you get.
@@SeventhSeraphOfficerRevolverRanni didn't kill any of her allies aside from Seluvis, Blaidd looses his mind because of the two fingers and kills assasins send to kill Ranni and Iji takes off his helmet that protects him from the greater will (as implied by the helmet being found on the anvil, depite the model still having it on) and lets himself be killed by its assasins while taking them with him. We know those assasins wielding destined death infused blades are after Ranni because of the fact that some of them tried to kill her by pretending to be Blaidd as mentioned in Black Wolf Mask description "A mask fashioned after the head of a black wolf. Relic of an assassin who assumed the guise of Ranni the Witch's loyal shadow. The likeness is striking." then near the end of her quest we fight a baleful shadow who is a assasin that looks like Blaidd and wields a Destined death infused blade. And Ranni describes them like this "I turned my back on the Two Fingers and we each have been cursing the other since. The Baleful Shadows... are their assassins." So no Ranni doesn't kill any of her allies (aside from Seluvis but he is a traitor), Greater wills assasins do it.
I really enjoyed this video. I've already heard the story of Volcano Manor, and Rykards story, but this is different and I like your ideas about Deadicar, very interesting, very cool, keep it up! :)
Your videos have been very good and really well done , I hope you keep it up. But anyway what I find interesting is it is implied that at one point Rykard and Ranni may have conspired together against the greater will or at least knew each other's motives and were on friendly terms
One thing I find interesting is the reversal of expectations. We're led to believe Rykard fell into disgrace and everyone abandoned him, but what we see is actually sort of the opposite. Before, as a man, he was a depraved butcher and torturer, a "might makes right" enthusiast supported by equally depraved knights and inquisitors. Once he transforms, they all leave him or die, and all of his remaining followers are people who love him or are genuinely onboard with the idea of rebellion against the Erdtree. Even those he consumes live on forever as part of him, and while the knight's ghost implies the serpent had control and Rykard is no more...in the boss fight it seems the other way around. Rykard got his happy ending, bizarrely, became immortal and found out who his true friends were. I could be wrong but that's how it felt to me, like he's a sort of inverse Ludwig where his grotesque form is an improvement.
You really deserve more subscribers. Your videos are awesome. Never really seen on on volcano manner quite like this. And your videos are also very relaxing.
This was really well done, im loving Elden Rings lore from all these different content creators since it's release. Deffiently earned a new subscriber especially because you sound like an Elden Ring voice actor 😁
I never did manage to finish this quest line thank you for covering this miss chalice 🙂 and I think rykard maybe went a little far but I understand his ultimate goal. And it’s nice seeing that zorayes set out in her own quest and is thankful our assistance 😇
Ahh so happy you’ve uploaded the story! This was a amazing video! Your voice is just pretty and relaxing!! 🥺 I believe Rykard wasn’t all bad of a person and his greed for power got to him too much he didn’t think and he lost himself. He knew that the other shardbearers were going to be challenging and the erdtree so he needed insane power for it. Tanith agreed with his choice out of love for him 💗
The way I see it tanith was impressed by rykard devotion, the man was willing to give himself and be devoured in orders to accomplish his beliefs, and she was also impressed by the length rykard’s black mamba
Wow I didn't expect this video to be so good! Narration, story, editing, everything is just perfect! Thank you so much for this upload. It was a great experience
To better understand the serpent symbolism, one only needs to look for Eochaid and it's tracings. The gladiators were originally from Eochaid, as per item descriptions. In which, I believe Tanith is also from this faraway land. In grand colosseum, they would engage multiple prisoners and/or heretics to fight to the death, clad in serpentine iconography (gladiator set). This was done as a way of showing the enemies of the Erdtree, the Serpents, destroying one another. In which, they would be corralled until only one would remain at the end. In this case, it may follow similar colosseum rules of "last one to live earns freedom." The Path of the Champion, so to speak. Why else would the weapons of Eochaid dance (regalia of Eochaid/Marias Executioner Sword)? It was all a part of the *spectacle.* Various combatants would be equipped with "kits" or "loadouts" of varying serpent weapons, some with range, some with defense, some outright offense (serpent bow, serpent fang, serpent shield for example) and they would all be let loose to have the best snake win. It is all a very gruesome window to the actual colosseum and their tactics of *"entertainment".* Prisoners were sent by boat from the Lands Between (Elemer of the Briar's set) and Rykard, being essentially the Lord High Inquisitor of his time, would have oodles of prisoners to donate to one of his favorite spectacles. Eochaid must have been a foreign land conquered by the forces of the Erdtree a long time ago. Rykard, being a 'ruthless justiciar' would obviously have enjoyed such a spectacle, to see enemies of the Erdtree "rightfully punished." After all, he was an ambitious sort that obviously sought to invoke the fear of god into those who partake Blasphemy. Such can be easily derived from the fact that the confessor set comes from a merchant in Mt. Gelmir; as well as the gruesome, almost 'inquisition-like' torture mechanisms going on at Mt. Gelmir and the volcano manor. Rykard was a justiciar, or more apt to call him a leader of the Erdtree's very own Inquisition. His Confessors would seek out those accused of heresy and torture them until they got the answer they wanted, using weapons such as rot and stealth and all manner of torture once their prey was abducted. Yet Rykard, due to his ambition of wanting to see all enemies laid bare, became susceptible to a particular dancer of Eochaid, Tanith. As Patches says, "This is what happens when the lord of ambition is head over heels with lady blasphemy." Tanith must have had some idealism based around the strength of the champions, which is most likely what enticed Rykard's ambition. He wouldn't be happy until all his enemies are gone, why not become the all-devouring god of his enemies? The intent changed, obviously, once Rykard gave himself to the God-Devouring Serpent, Eiglay. This can be extrapolated from the spirit of the Gelmir Knight that tells you about the serpent-slaying spear. How everything changed once he gave himself to the serpent. I've done a lot of looking into the principles of Eochaid, as well as it's symbolism and how it leaks slowly into the Lands Between. This is my current theory, that Rykard's ambition became enchanted by Tanith's blasphemy. They truly did love each other, at least, as much as sociopathic/psychopathic couples can.
I feel bad for PAtches. It sounded like he had a one sided love for Tanith, tried to fight Elemer for her, got hurt in the process, gives you the castanets, and then crawls back to his cave in defeat.
yay my favourite lore master! Your vidoes make me feel so immersed in the lore. Good stuff! :D Nepheli loux is my favourite character. wow totally missed this character o.o
Another great video! Informative and relaxing at the same time, despite the darkness of the information itself haha As for the question, I think rebelling against the Golden Order is all well and good, and most likely would require some level of sacrifice to achieve. His methods clearly went too far in a number of ways, but it seems that where Rykard truly failed at his stated goal is when he lost his ambition. At some point after the war between Volcano Manor and the capital, he seems to have lost the drive to actually attempt to defeat or devour the gods, despite his grandiose claims. He became content to just sit around in his chamber and wait for Tanith to deliver lunch to him on a silver platter All of their plans revolve around pitting Tarnished against each other to find only the best meals to him, rather than actually making any progress toward their goals, like you do with other Npc questlines, like Ranni's
Before finding the frenzied flame, I was totally committed to Volcano Manor's mission, vision and values. And this version of Patches is my favorite, even more than Mild Mannered Patches in Dark Souls 2 or Unbreakable Patches from DS3, which I had in very high regard.
I don't think Rykard had much of a choice, the Golden Order's army in its prime was a force to be reckoned with. The Erd Tree-Dragon Sentinel you face at the gate of Leyndell is a testament to their power
My Goodness, you're adorable :) I love your softspoken voice and your lore explanations. You're definitely in the top tier for elden ring for me. You've got a new sub! Love the channel! Keep it up!
You are utterly captivating when telling a story! So glad I found you. It's nice to listen to someone who's not Vaati every once in a while haha (No offense to him obviously, he's great and I'm a huge fan, it's just nice to hear someone else's voice. Also nice to hear someone else's passion for the game I love.)
What if at the end of the event and you return to the boss room only to discover that TWIST! Tanith was just really freakin’ hungry. Happily sitting there, nibbling away with a big smile, “Mmm! Nummy!” ….that gave me a chill and I hate it but refuse to take it back! I can’t be alone with that thought!!
Loving the shirt 👌😁. Thank you for all of your videos! It is really nice hearing all of the lore with that soothing voice of yours! Keep being you! Keep being awesome!
I gave her the potion on my first play through, did nothing on the 2nd and now on my third I killed her with moonveil. I think I’ll keep Tanith alive this time
I definitely ascribe to the notion that Rykard assisted Ranni with the Night of the Black Knives. Namely, that he's was to one to carve the other half of the death rune into Ranni's back. She may not have trusted him with the entirety of her plans, but she could certainly trust that he would help her in rebelling from the Golden Order. Anything to get one over on the gods, eh? (On a funnier note, she can then claim that both of her brothers stabbed her in the back, both literally with Rykard and figuratively with Rhadan's star stunt.) There's no proof of this of course, but until proven otherwise that's my headcanon.
You should do a video on what the Roundtable Hold might actually be. Who built it? Why is there a version of it in the capital? Why is there a version in another dimension? What happened to the one in the capitol? And why is the other dimensional one effected by what we do in our world?
Holy crap. Your voice is perfect. You were born to do this. Literally , I’ve never seen someone more destined to do something ! A vaati collaboration would be legendary.
I always thought the storylines surrounding Volcano Manor sounded exactly like something GRR Martin would write. I have a sneaking feeling that while Miyazaki rotted away and twisted the other characters, he might've left this part of the story mostly untouched because it's already so twisted to begin with!
Maybe the reason Rykard and Mohg don't have endings is because they are incapable of succeeding. Like Rykard will most likely never become strong enough to face the strongest demigods, and mohg has no way to ever wake up Miquella.
It annoys me how blatantly evil the Volcano Manor is because none of my characters would ever want to join them, but if you don't you don't get all the goodies and recourses the quests provide. Though in Diallos's case its probably for the best.
Ryas quest line was really interesting but it was like a jumpscarec seeing some snake just menacingly standing in a corner and also I think you should do a video about godwyns lore
you conspicuously omitted what might be the most interesting part of Volcano Manor lore; the connection to the Godskins and Gloam-Eyed Queen! you breezed past the presence of the Godskin Noble and Blackflame Monk at the Temple of Eiglay, and didn't draw the connections between them and Daedicar, as well as the village of Dominula (which Diallos points out is just down the road from the Manor) where celebrants are skinning people, with a Godskin Apostle seemingly in charge...there's a ton of evidence linking GEQ to Volcano Manor, and that might be the solution to the biggest mystery in the game. and, i'm not sure about the speculation toward the start, that killing the other Tarnished is simply to prove that you're stronger than them...i was guessing they were targeted because they're loyal to the Golden Order, or at least because they opposed (or abandoned) the Manor...but that's all speculation
My guess is that Rykard birthed Zorayas as an act of adultery. He then gave Tanith the tonic so that she would forget his adultery but she refused to do so, staying devoted to Rykard and opting to raise Zorayas as her own. As for what happened to Daedicar (Zorayas's mother)...I think Daedicar may have been the god serpent, but was killed. I think this story is about a god (Rykard) making a pact with a demon (Daedicar). Per Daedicar's Woe's description, "Disturbing likeness of a woman whose skin was flayed. She smiles with a serene tenderness. It is said that this woman, named Daedicar, indulged in every form of adultery and wicked pleasure imaginable, giving birth to a myriad of grotesque children." The key words there are "adultery" and "flayed". Who do you find in the ritual room but a Godskin Noble. Godskins carry flaying weapons which could explain why Daedicar was flayed. Perhaps it was Tanith who sent the Godskin Noble to the manor in an act of jealousy? Nevertheless, in the end, Tanith is likely responsible for Zorayas's good nature by raising her as her own child, hence her not wanting her to learn the truth that she was actually the child of a demon. Just my take.
But was daedicus a demigod? The godskins flayed them too... I think... but tanith really kinda seems like raya's mom... and Raya is the only female manserpent we know of
What an interesting video, you have a pretty cool way to explain what you have to explain ! In France we have Loudic who do some great video about the Lore of that about this deep game. Rykard could have gone far, his fight for oppression is kind of a metaphor... I think he was worthy of his mission. ( I like the paralelel I made between Aldrich and Rykard )
Rya: I was an unwanted child. Tarnished: Not true. You’ve got a mother that wants you. A mother that cares for you, in her own way. SHE wants you. Rya: Born not of grace, but of a hideous ritual. Tarnished: Just because you’re born as one thing doesn’t mean you have to remain that way forever. And from what I’ve seen in this world no one is born a monster. Rya: Something that can never be accepted, not by men, nor serpents. Tarnished: Maybe…maybe you’re right. Maybe the world won’t accept you. But there’s a woman in this manor that loves you very much. And besides, I accept you. As long as you’ve got people in your life that accept you for who you are, then that’s enough.
I was FLABBERGASTED upon returning to the game after hearing Miss Chalice's voice and realizing how much she sounds like Melina and Ranni. FLABBERGASTED.
My goodness. Your voice is incredible! Hope it doesn't come off the wrong way but I legitimately thought for a moment you were the VA for Rya. Such a soothing voice. Keep up the awesome work 👌
