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The Dark Side of "Into the Wild" that nobody told you about… 

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Комментарии : 4,8 тыс.   
@TimSeraphiel
@TimSeraphiel 3 месяца назад
I always saw Into The Wild as being a cautionary tale. One told to show you what not to do.
@TheBookRefuge
@TheBookRefuge 3 месяца назад
Same! It seemed to show how each choice an slowly add up and compound until you've really put yourself in danger by your own actions. No condemnation for him, but he took his own life into his hands. He's not at fault for people who came after him and did it with their own. 🤷‍♀️
@EMurph42
@EMurph42 3 месяца назад
Thank you!
@thereselarfield7177
@thereselarfield7177 3 месяца назад
Yes… me too…
@judywright4241
@judywright4241 3 месяца назад
Plus, in the book AND movie, there were people WARNING him against what he was doing, and even had the kind hearted guy who gave Chris his waterproof boots. The saddest thing was Chris ‘got it’ at the end, by writing beauty was meant to be shared and signed his real name.
@lizzaangelis3308
@lizzaangelis3308 3 месяца назад
I always like to use these tales of misadventures to see what mistakes they made, how they dealt with the adversity. Could he have some something different that could have changed the outcome.
@MomCatMeows
@MomCatMeows 3 месяца назад
Chris's writings before his death are full of regret and how he realized he'd screwed up. It's a tragic story. He didn't want to die and his death shouldn't be glorified. RIP. ❤
@davids6652
@davids6652 2 месяца назад
Ppl get desperate when they’re faced with death as he was. But this clip is full of misrepresentation and has omitted so much info abt mr McCandless
@carwrapkingvinylwraps4097
@carwrapkingvinylwraps4097 2 месяца назад
True but he was warned few times...
@stanzaloan3454
@stanzaloan3454 Месяц назад
Who's glorifying it? If his story inspires anyone, they missed the point.
@lordofpain3476
@lordofpain3476 Месяц назад
He was foolish and idealistic .
@jennifermarie3158
@jennifermarie3158 Месяц назад
@@davids6652 The point of the video wasn't to focus on McCandless. There are lots of other videos that tell his story if that's what you want
@johngerson7335
@johngerson7335 2 месяца назад
Little published factoid: when Chris made his final hike to the river to attempt to save himself he trekked some ways upriver trying to find a safe crossing. When he returned to the trail, he chose to go back to the bus rather than scout the opposite direction downriver as well. Had he gone the other direction he'd have found a suspended trolley-rig by which he'd have been able to safely cross the river and had the chance to make it to the state road where he would've possibly encountered help. Fate and irony are very good friends, and also very cruel sometimes.
@gwynkaitis1259
@gwynkaitis1259 2 месяца назад
That is incredibly sad.
@johngerson7335
@johngerson7335 2 месяца назад
​@@gwynkaitis1259I completely agree, it is.
@jamestabor7725
@jamestabor7725 2 месяца назад
I read or seen a documentary that said the exact same thing. Also something about a place around in the area vandalized.
@yavrielsechelle7431
@yavrielsechelle7431 2 месяца назад
Nah. That has nothing to do with fate or irony. Fatigue, he gave up, lazy, depressed, despair. Those are the things that kept him from going the other way.
@SupremeGreatGrandmaster
@SupremeGreatGrandmaster Месяц назад
@@yavrielsechelle7431 I don't think you know what fate or irony mean.
@LiveFreeOrDie2A
@LiveFreeOrDie2A 2 месяца назад
No one’s responsible but the fool’s who KNOWINGLY put themselves in harm’s way, especially all those after McCandless’s death. I read “Into The Wild” before the movie and it inspired me NOT to do the same. The romanticization of his story ending so tragically, and his personal regrets in his dying days was actually a huge de-motivator as no one romanticized what he was doing more than he did, so when even he left behind his final message of “happiness is only real when shared” it really sank home.
@deborahkimball-billups6405
@deborahkimball-billups6405 Месяц назад
Exactly 💯
@user-cv8qe9ru8c
@user-cv8qe9ru8c Месяц назад
Dope name my guy! Proud 2A Granite stater my damnself
@ItsMe-ic7on
@ItsMe-ic7on Месяц назад
The ending of this movie to me was not romanticized in the least that anyone who thinks it is needs to go see a shrink
@jamesg1974a
@jamesg1974a 8 дней назад
I think the husbands are responsible for their wives dying. They were careless and put them in danger
@Tina06019
@Tina06019 2 дня назад
⁠@@jamesg1974a Sir: I understand (and do appreciate) what you are saying, but there is no evidence that these men browbeat their wives into going out there. But it would be valid, I think, to remind any trekker that their companion may well not be as strong as they are, and plan accordingly. In a somewhat related issue, I occasionally need to remind my husband that despite being «game» for most activities, I am not as strong as he is, despite being as tall as he is. In particular, almost all men have much stronger grip strength than most women.
@lbr7897
@lbr7897 3 месяца назад
McCandless didn't know what people would do with his story, what other people did after he died isn't on him.
@mattjack3983
@mattjack3983 3 месяца назад
No, it's not on him. If anything, his story should be taken as a cautionary tale. There's nothing wrong with setting out into the wilderness to live off the land and find yourself. But being properly prepared and having requisite skills to survive is a pretty important detail that Chris very foolishly skipped over.
@user-co8uy5rb2s
@user-co8uy5rb2s 3 месяца назад
McCandless had a very fantastical view of not just the wilderness, but life itself. He claims he hated money but by existing on the favors and gifts of others, he was still using money. Also, he was very untrained and unprepared for living in the wild. His fantasies killed him.
@eyetrollin710
@eyetrollin710 3 месяца назад
No it's the fault of people talking about him in any sort of positive way he should be mocked this whole situation should be a laughingstock the fact that anyone holds any reverence for him or has ever called him a hero or said he's Brave or Associated any positive words with him all of those people are the ones who are to blame, if we as a group looked at him in a rational way and said wow what an idiot no one would want to repeat what he did if he was openly mocked ostracized and called what he was a spoiled lunatic with an ego the size of Alaska then no one would idealize this, but it's the journalists and the RU-vidrs and everybody else who says anything about him that was positive that is to blame for other people dying spinning a moron into a hero is Ludacris
@damonroberts7372
@damonroberts7372 3 месяца назад
The real blame should be on Jon Krakauer and Sean Penn for exploiting and romanticizing the story of a mentally ill young man who died by misadventure.
@EMurph42
@EMurph42 3 месяца назад
I have to agree with that. Chris has a foolish short-sighted idealistic frame of mind. This all happened like my freshman year of high school; kids were reading the book but not all like “he might not have made it but I will!” More like “look at this terrifying story of being off the grid.” I do not think most kids I knew romanticized it.
@krystalwashington3500
@krystalwashington3500 3 месяца назад
At 13 I read "My Side of the Mountain" about a boy that ran away and lived in a tree in the mountains. I thought that was so cool and wanted to do it. But I came to my senses realizing I knew nothing about survival..... at 13, just saying
@Willrocs
@Willrocs 3 месяца назад
😂 ha
@thorbrennergostasson8556
@thorbrennergostasson8556 3 месяца назад
AHA yes! been looking for the title to that book! There's a crappy old movie too! He meets a guy he calls Bandit too, right?
@jenniferingle888
@jenniferingle888 3 месяца назад
Love that book! Started a lifelong intrest in bushcraft.
@heathersmith8549
@heathersmith8549 3 месяца назад
That was one of my favorite books as a child
@janefreeman995
@janefreeman995 3 месяца назад
I was also ready to live in a tree and train a peregrine falcon to hunt for me!
@TexasBoyJc
@TexasBoyJc Месяц назад
How is this any different than folks trying to climb Mount Everest and perishing in the process? It’s tragic for all involved but no one forced them to go.
@Adriana-hp1eh
@Adriana-hp1eh 27 дней назад
Difference is that the public doesn't have to pay to rescue you or retrieve your body.
@karenv5103
@karenv5103 26 дней назад
People die from accidents and poor planning in the wilderness often. Why would anyone try blaming it on a bus that chris stayed in? Anyone watch that show and still not see the dangers and still try going to the bus. It's their decision and they should plan ahead by learning survival skills and take enough supplies.
@taetannim3581
@taetannim3581 18 дней назад
It's really not, just more Hollywood pretending reality isn't what it is.
@DarkWraithKevin
@DarkWraithKevin 18 дней назад
That's actually a rather interesting perspective
@Databyter
@Databyter 14 дней назад
I think it is different because Christopher wasn't trying to test himself, or have an experience. He was trying to find himself. He was disgusted with the world and thought he could find purity in the wilderness. In other words, he was deluded and delusional and probably mentally ill. I'm sure he was a nice guy and all. Don't get me wrong. But he was missing something, and that is what drove him to do foolish things. The people who challenge Everest are trying to test themselves. Or to do something rare that most people can't or won't do. Now that you mention it tho. There are probably people among those pilgims who have the same syndrome. I'm not judging it, but if you can't do it without hurting yourself or others, then there is a lot of self destruction built in, which I equate to mental illness. The inability to see and accept reality and be content with it.
@ILoveChocolateCoffee
@ILoveChocolateCoffee Месяц назад
The story on Chris always makes me cry. His photos and how thin he was getting but still had a smile on his face. Even writing a final note.
@Big_Tex
@Big_Tex 3 месяца назад
People. “Into the Wild” is a cautionary tale, not a How-To manual.
@mikeseibert4889
@mikeseibert4889 3 месяца назад
Ain't that the truth bro people don't realize how harsh mother nature really can be especially in Alaska.
@LuisTheMexican
@LuisTheMexican 3 месяца назад
@@mikeseibert4889 mother nature is a motha
@sendmorerum8241
@sendmorerum8241 3 месяца назад
Apparently, no one watched til the end.
@corneliusdinkmeyer2190
@corneliusdinkmeyer2190 3 месяца назад
A “How to Die” movie.
@midgetman4206
@midgetman4206 3 месяца назад
For the 2 women who died as an example (others surely had similar ideas), I don't think they were trying to replicate what the man did. They simply wanted to see and experience the place with their own eyes and bodies, similar to going to museums or other historical sights. The issue is that they never accepted when they should have stopped. Ignorance or stubbornness, they didn't turn back when the situation was out of their league.
@MusgraveRitual
@MusgraveRitual 3 месяца назад
There is a very good reason why our ancestors built shelters, bridges, boats; invented engines, weaponry, clothes...they didn't do it because they were sitting around happily in nature "living off the land". They did it because nature would, and did, kill and eat them alive.
@Kunfucious577
@Kunfucious577 3 месяца назад
Totally agree. It’s also super inefficient. It’s only romanticized because so few people do it. A significant number of people doing this would wipe out wildlife and wood.
@hannahp1108
@hannahp1108 3 месяца назад
@@Kunfucious577Yes. And so many of us are so removed from what it's like to be in the natural world that it becomes romantic and we forget the dangers.
@vln987
@vln987 3 месяца назад
Absolutely, and we all worked together. No one did this alone.
@wendaltvedt4673
@wendaltvedt4673 3 месяца назад
Personally I don't see the appeal in living off the grid. I love nature but I also love grocery stores, A/C, showers and toilet paper.
@ccpperrett7522
@ccpperrett7522 3 месяца назад
I live in Alaska. The indigenous people who live here no longer live primitively. There is a reason for that. We enjoy camping but living in a dugout or tent at minus fifty degrees is not romantic. Trust me. The people who live primitively have short life spans for a reason.
@---MaveRick---203
@---MaveRick---203 2 месяца назад
Even today, there are still lots of preppers that stubbornly stick to the idea that they can go 3 weeks without food in those same conditions. it's part of what they call the "rule of threes". They don't understand that living in the wilderness requires far more calories than sitting at home on the couch. Chris McCandless ovbiously didn't know the area and a topography map would have saved his life. I checked Google maps and found that there was a bridge only 1.5 miles away from where the bus was parked. There was also a dirt road from where the bus was parked to the bridge. Even common sense should have told him that there must have been a way for the bus to get across the river and get to where it was parked.
@Doxymeister
@Doxymeister 2 месяца назад
Ah, I was wondering how the bus got out there in the first place. Buses don't just pop up out of the ground like plants. Someone had to have drove it in there so there had to have been a bridge.
@liambyrne5285
@liambyrne5285 Месяц назад
​@@Doxymeisterit could have come from a different direction
@behindthespotlight7983
@behindthespotlight7983 Месяц назад
I greatly appreciate your comment. As a survival enthusiast and preparedness minded American it’s always bugged me bigtime that men buy brand new equipment, pack it into a bag then unpack it on youtube while pretending they know what they’re talking about. It isn’t helping the epidemic of idiots requiring SAR to continuously beat the mantra of “here’s my $300 bushcraft knife. I didn’t pack food because you can go three weeks without food before…” 🤦🏼‍♂️”Dude. Try going three days sitting in your climate controlled living room without calories then try to run the vacuum. Let alone ‘process wood’ for a bush shelter with that knife you overpaid for by 600%”
@blemishednicely8402
@blemishednicely8402 Месяц назад
The "rule of 3" isn't a goal...it's literally a critical threshold... 4 minutes without air (brain begins to die), 4 days without water (death by dehydration) & 4 weeks without food (death by malnutrition)...these are the 3 general rules of survival & death, they are NOT "goals" to attempt to plan around or play about with. Rare exceptions, people have survived longer without air (usually due to a stasis-like condition, say, falling into cold waters etc though almost all suffered brain damage as a result), people HAVE also been found alive past the water & food thresholds, but the organ damage resulting from it often kills them anyway OR compromises them for the rest of their (most certainly shortened) lives...technically it IS possible to double your expectancy without food if you were to drink beer (due to the b vitamins & other nutrients water doesn't have) - BUT that would also take a toll on your liver as well as dehydrate you & good luck finding a river of beer flowing in the wild. ...Guess they never stopped to wonder WHY life expectancies were so much shorter in the days of frontiers/pioneers & earlier... People who plan around death's door shouldn't be surprised when they eventually get invited in (& be it through stupidity, ignorance or arrogance, absolutely deserve what they get IMHO), sad as it may be for those they left behind~
@herpertderpert
@herpertderpert Месяц назад
@@blemishednicely8402 hey if anyone out here ever finds that river of beer flowing in the wild shoot me a line.
@michaelsudsysutherland5353
@michaelsudsysutherland5353 Месяц назад
I lived up in the Fairbanks area from 2004 - 2012 (Uncle Sam stationed me there at Ft. Wainwright). When I got out of the military, I worked in sporting goods (selling firearms, hunting, fishing, and trapping licenses) at a local shop. I can't tell you how many starry eyed European and Asian tourist hikers came in through those doors (appalled at all the guns asking for bear bells and spray) completely oblivious to the fact that once you step outside in Alaska, you are stepping into the food chain NOT as the apex predator. You do your best to train and equip for survival, and you can still find yourself dying in Alaska; going in naive and starry eyed just makes that process happen faster. Blame lies with the people that romanticized "Into the Wild" just as blame lies with those that romanticized the Gold Rush over a century prior.
@Prelooker
@Prelooker 21 день назад
Loved the becoming part of the food chain and not on top! So true! ♥
@DonnaBrooks
@DonnaBrooks 2 дня назад
McCandless wasn't killed by a predator. Predators are not as big a threat as the weather. Hypothermia & dehydration kill way more people than bears. And a gun didn't save Chris McCandless' life.
@matthewhein9012
@matthewhein9012 3 месяца назад
I’ll honestly never understand why anyone would hear that someone died due to being unprepared and then go to the same place without being prepared. The only people who are responsible for unprepared are the people who are not prepared.
@kathrynlynch4317
@kathrynlynch4317 3 месяца назад
thinning out the heard - I will help you but
@maratonlegendelenemirei3352
@maratonlegendelenemirei3352 3 месяца назад
I know, it's absolutely hilarious to me!!!
@everkief8650
@everkief8650 3 месяца назад
I was just about to write a similar comment but you expressed my own thoughts better than I could have. I have genuine sympathy for anyone who finds themself in this similar situation but I'm baffled by their lack of detailed and objective thought, or planning. I hate to say it but it's way to similar to simply killing oneself, even if accidental.
@user-yy7hg4ph6f
@user-yy7hg4ph6f 3 месяца назад
💯
@TheWorkmonkey1
@TheWorkmonkey1 3 месяца назад
I suppose it's important to take into account, when pondering on these sorts of things, is that some people are really fucking stupid.
@sharonkrikorian5609
@sharonkrikorian5609 3 месяца назад
I live in Alaska and to be honest, we all grew tired of the costly rescues. Finally the bus was air lifted out of there by helicopter. It's sad that had to be done, but the average hiker rescued could not afford to pay for their rescue.
@richardstever3242
@richardstever3242 3 месяца назад
That is the only explanation so far that has made any sense. The decision was not based on saving the fools, but rather as a relief for the taxpayers.
@helium5912
@helium5912 3 месяца назад
No the truth is that it was sent to the University and will be on display. THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR TO SEE. Everything in america HAS to cost money. Anything free to see is NOT gonna make Uncle Sam happy. Leave the bus in the wild to rot away and people will stop going. Or totally destroy it. @@richardstever3242
@beneleonhard7915
@beneleonhard7915 3 месяца назад
I just thought that this would be necessary. Good to hear, that it has been done. I early heard about the story and always went mentally back to what his motivation was, what he was trying to find - and in the end was telling to what was most important. I'm relieved to know that locals and rescue services are not further that much bothered by naive or careless people.
@gjmottet
@gjmottet 3 месяца назад
The museum of the North now has the bus and I have heard they want to replace it somewhere in the UAF trail system where it would be a mile or so from the trail head and be something to hike it, but done safely. Its about tourism dollars now
@beneleonhard7915
@beneleonhard7915 3 месяца назад
@@gjmottet that is in itself another sad end to the story...
@SebastianKrabs
@SebastianKrabs Месяц назад
As an avid hiker i would hear many non hikers talk about McCandless like a role model. I'd always respond, "Nature wants you dead. Nature is a serial killer, forget that and you'll be the next McCandless." 🙄
@justinbeck4197
@justinbeck4197 Месяц назад
That comment is worthy of its own philosophy book. I guess Arthur Schopenhauer works on that a bit.
@zacharydalton8132
@zacharydalton8132 Месяц назад
Role model for what? Bring a clueless hippy ?
@knucklehead7456
@knucklehead7456 29 дней назад
How much revenue has been generated by McCandless story? You'd think he's the only person who ever went into the woods and died 🙄
@barnesrm76
@barnesrm76 23 дня назад
that is a fact. mother nature is indifferent to your presence out there. she can be a harsh mistress indeed if you underestimate her.
@Prelooker
@Prelooker 21 день назад
Living in a National Park in Patagonia for 30 years I've learned nature is just nature, and it's not out to kill us. Nature doesn't care about us as individuals, and that's what we struggle to grasp in our addiction to attention. A friend who works in the local SAR group always says "Mountains aren't dangerous: the danger is on us." In our arrogance, in our ignorance, and most of all, in our underestimating what we don't know, not stopping to wonder bic things like, "what could happen if I do this?" Like, "what could happen to me if I venture into a wild land, all alone and having no idea about how to survive in this place?"
@jimhoward6584
@jimhoward6584 2 месяца назад
Over the years, as a resident of Alaska and Yukon Canada I have had the the discussion with many residents and most of us have agreed that we would have made the decision to DIE trying to cross the river rather than staying and starving to death. McCandless made many poor decisions during his short life.
@Databyter
@Databyter 14 дней назад
An even better choice would have been to search the side of the river he was already on, that had a network of roads, cabins, and river crossings. If he had just brought a MAP he would have been saved. Or if he wasn't so lazy that he never got further than a quarter mile from the bus.
@urbanbushcrafter1924
@urbanbushcrafter1924 3 месяца назад
As a 30 year student of wilderness survival, I view these as examples of how beautiful, yet uncaring the wilderness is. It’s neither for you nor against you & doesn’t care if you live or die.
@navagatingthroughthebeasts2908
@navagatingthroughthebeasts2908 3 месяца назад
It ain't personal
@dimplesd8931
@dimplesd8931 3 месяца назад
So true
@Raelven
@Raelven 3 месяца назад
Nature is the most impersonal force in existence. She does her thing, she knows it works as intended, and she doesn't care if you intervene, and suffer consequences.
@djsdownhill2010
@djsdownhill2010 3 месяца назад
It’s like that for all living things…even us humans!😉
@cliffordbowman6777
@cliffordbowman6777 3 месяца назад
Most people don’t either
@arnehusby1420
@arnehusby1420 3 месяца назад
I am from Norway, with much of the same climate and landscape as Alaska. Every year, the Red Cross or other rescue services have to pick up tourists on adventures that end with them being stuck on a mountain ledge or taken by avalanches. Tourists who defy all advice and get lost can end up paying large sums for helicopter and search. Nice with adventurers, but listen to what the local people have to say about your project.
@Winstonrodney6989
@Winstonrodney6989 3 месяца назад
If I have learned one thing from watching tragedy videos on RU-vid, it’s always listen to the locals!
@joannagodfrey5111
@joannagodfrey5111 3 месяца назад
we get similar stupidity in Scotland
@djomegaminus
@djomegaminus 3 месяца назад
the tax payers end up paying not the idiots who defy common sense.
@adkviking69shofner98
@adkviking69shofner98 3 месяца назад
❤Norway
@DingDong-fq2mo
@DingDong-fq2mo 3 месяца назад
We get similar tourists in Australia, putting themselves in danger and needing rescue in very different environs. Some people seem unable to learn from the mistakes of others.
@rattiegirl5
@rattiegirl5 28 дней назад
The fact that people have died on Mount Everest does not stop people from trying to scale it- including at times literally stepping over those who did not make it down.
@hollichristensen6419
@hollichristensen6419 3 месяца назад
If someone does something that leads to their death and then you go do the same thing knowing what happened to the other person, that's on you. Also when I say "that's on you" I mean the person who knew exactly what happened to the first person and knew the dangers but followed suit that it's on. Not the first person cause they didn't know others would copy. Now, with them, doing something that's very clearly risky is always a high chance of bad things/death. It's on them because they made that choice to take that chance. That's life.
@beachbumt1
@beachbumt1 3 месяца назад
Exactly! Shame on KyleHatesHiking for labeling this video "Not a Hero". Back in the early 1990s, he set out, not for HIKING, but to find himself, to do something he dreamed of -- something most people are afraid of (searching for their inner truth). He broke the bogus system, even though it ended badly for him.
@noahhyde8769
@noahhyde8769 3 месяца назад
Yes, Chris acted completely idiotically. He was never all that far from help (he could have literally walked out of there), and didn't even bring a map. That is NOT something to make a book about, let alone a movie about. And it's certainly not something to imitate or chase. All over a stupid bus and a foolish trek. I'm sorry he died but he did NOT have to. This was a totally, 100% preventable tragedy. Same with the others who came after.
@beachbumt1
@beachbumt1 3 месяца назад
@deathknell5167Doesn't matter. He labeled that thumbnail himself, basically calling McCandless "not a hero". I give McCandless a lot of credit for doing what he did. Yes, he could've prepared more, but he at least dared to live his dream. That's where the hero part comes in. As far as others not using their common sense seeing a raging river, it's sad, but on them and them alone. It's like swimming in the ocean on red flag days or during a hurricane and I have literally seen that, where people were letting their little kids (probably under 5 years old) play in the water with a hurricane approaching while I myself was too scared to get near the water, knowing if it came up closer to me, could've taken me out to sea. Again, common sense.
@antthomas7916
@antthomas7916 3 месяца назад
​@@beachbumt1 Following your dreams and going out to find yourself doesn't make you a hero. It's inspiring and commendable, but it's not heroic. He didn't save anyone, in fach he kind of did the opposite. So technically, the thumbnail is correct.
@konnorlewis1869
@konnorlewis1869 3 месяца назад
​@@beachbumt1 Kyle is right. The dude died and isn't here to help the world in anyway and his story only taught people to not go into the wild like an idiot.
@izzypulse8157
@izzypulse8157 3 месяца назад
People romanticizing his isolation and wanting to follow in his footsteps are missing the entire point of his story: “happiness only real when shared.”
@LH_Vagrant
@LH_Vagrant 3 месяца назад
Indeed, that single line is the big take-away from the story, or at least to me it is. As magical as the story (sans the ending) may seem to some, McCandless himself realised by the end that the true magic lay in the connections he found along the way. Whatever our interests and path in life, we're not meant to go it alone.
@pedroroque829
@pedroroque829 3 месяца назад
@@LH_Vagrant Exactly, imagine the things he saw in Alaska and realizing he couldn't share them with anyone.
@Zodroo_Tint
@Zodroo_Tint 3 месяца назад
@@pedroroque829 That feeling is when you understand. When something great happening and you realize there is nobody there just you. And when you die that great thing only you saw will die with you like it never happened.
@lesliehammonds29
@lesliehammonds29 3 месяца назад
@@Zodroo_Tint yes. I think it also speaks to how he idealistic view of what he'd done all that time had finally broken down as he died alone and scared. I do end of life care. It's scary to go through facing one's own mortality alone for most people. I think Chris was young enough that he hadn't given it much thought. Or if he had, it was in a removed way, like yeah I might die but I'll be dying in this noble pursuit. That's an easier thing to say when you're not staring death in the face. I think his story resonates with me because I so deeply understand what he was after. But I also so deeply mourn the way he went about it and the suffering he faced which could have been avoided. I think that statement, "Happiness is only real when shared" was a realization he needed to have, but that he had too late to save his life and got him off the self destructive path he was on.
@no1fibersplicer525
@no1fibersplicer525 3 месяца назад
@@lesliehammonds29 wry well said. You communicate you feelings very well.
@RH-tv9hk
@RH-tv9hk 2 месяца назад
One reason McCandless' story blew up: the "hypocritical prisons of suburban middle-class" aspect was heavily played and embraced. The media and Hwood LOVES that trope. (I'm not trying to minimize or downplay his feelings and experiences. He felt what he felt, and Hollywood happily ran with it.)
@RH-tv9hk
@RH-tv9hk 2 месяца назад
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@jessyjulie5506
@jessyjulie5506 2 месяца назад
There is some truth to that. Suburbia is a very unnatural, isolating way to live.
@RH-tv9hk
@RH-tv9hk Месяц назад
@@jessyjulie5506 Not really. Depends on situation / person / location. Is it more stifling & isolating than floor 10 of a downtown bldg? Or a farm, five miles to the closest neighbor? A tiny town, 100 miles to the closest city? It's strange that out of all the environments to live in, suburbia gets the most disdain. Yes, it's not for everyone but the negative is overblown. Everyone has to live somewhere and there are plusses and minuses to most places
@jessyjulie5506
@jessyjulie5506 Месяц назад
@@RH-tv9hk I do think it's kinda isolating because most people who live in suburbs are commuters, so their work doesn't produce anything for the community they live in, unlike a small town or farm or city. Also, its hard to build community when no one is in town during the day, that's why they call them "bedroom communities" sometimes. Suburbs also cost a lot more to upkeep than a city or small town, because water has to be outsourced from far away and other reasons.
@ennuiii
@ennuiii 29 дней назад
Remember media and Hollywood runs with these tropes because they sell, suburbanites make up a huge portion of our country and selling them validation is big bucks
@ashextraordinaire
@ashextraordinaire Месяц назад
"My Side of the Mountain" was one of my top-ten favorite books as a child. As an adult, I frequently joke about disappearing into the woods. I'm an occasional camper and hiker. And I know that Chris's story is a cautionary tale. I guess people think they would fare differently than Chris did? Otherwise, I can't understand the fascination.
@BurroGirl
@BurroGirl 3 месяца назад
I have an interesting connection to the movie - I rescued one of the wolves that were in the very short movie scene with a pack of wolves in it, about to steal his meat he had procured. Her name was Willow. She died here and is buried here. She was absolutely the sweetest wolf I have ever rescued. She lived with her companion named Gulliver, who was so devastated by her death that he died 2 weeks after she did, after having been perfectly healthy for years.
@sweeneytodd011
@sweeneytodd011 3 месяца назад
Thats a sad end but it's great the animals got to have several years of, no doubt, a good life thanks to you 👏🐺
@BurroGirl
@BurroGirl 3 месяца назад
@@sweeneytodd011 thank you. Yes they had a really great life, had an acre of land all to themselves, shelters, a pool, and Willow dug her own tunnels in the ground. They got brushed when shedding, as much as they would tolerate, lots of raw diet. Willow would roll over on her back to have her tummy rubbed.
@BurroGirl
@BurroGirl 3 месяца назад
@@sweeneytodd011 before I took them they were kept on chains on a property in Alaska. There were 30 of them and the people who "owned" them bred them and a sold their pups to make $ and also charged people who came to walk the property to see "the largest wolf pack in Alaska". The State of Alaska ended it by threatening to shoot them all since they had no permit to have them, plus the state was cracking down on ownership of wolf hybrids. A number of wolf rescue sanctuaries got wind and made an offer to the State, with a plan to spay and castrate them all and move them out of Alaska. The State agreed. Veterinarians volunteered to do the neuters for free. Bob Barker donated a plane to fly them out down to Washington state, and from there they were transported on trucks to a sanctuary in Southern California.
@harrietbryant7772
@harrietbryant7772 3 месяца назад
Thank you so much for telling us about Willow and thank you for rescuing her. I will keep you and the animals you rescue and love so dearly in my heart and my thoughts. I’ve been rescuing homeless animals (mostly cats, I’m a city kid) for over 50 years and your story touched me in a way very few others have. Thank you so much for sharing part of your life and heart with us.
@BurroGirl
@BurroGirl 3 месяца назад
@@harrietbryant7772 oh wow, thank you so much and I'm glad it touched you. Thank YOU for all you have done and continue to do for animals. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@StKrane
@StKrane 3 месяца назад
I read the book years ago. For me it is more of a tragedy and a huge warning than anything else. Nature doesn’t care about us, usually. All in all, it’s often very young and young folks who underestimate what they are up against, not just in the wild but also with other potentially dangerous activities.
@sweeneytodd011
@sweeneytodd011 3 месяца назад
My thoughts exactly.
@Pipsqwak
@Pipsqwak 3 месяца назад
Especially young men - they have the highest rate of accidental death due to reckless risk-taking while feeling invincible. McCandless probably thought that because he was young and healthy when he left, that he'd be okay and have plenty of time to just learn how to survive as he went along. He had no idea how to really live on his own, even in civilization. Unfortunately, the wilderness just doesn't give a shit about anyone or anyone's ideals, hopes, dreams, or spiritual quests and pretensions. If you don't have the nitty-gritty skills, you die. And sometimes even if you DO have the skills, you still die.
@allewis4008
@allewis4008 3 месяца назад
​@@PipsqwakPeople born from a life of ease often have a childish view of how the world works.
@scribbly2983
@scribbly2983 3 месяца назад
I didn't think Krakauer romanticized what happened and was surprised people reacted by wanting to follow.
@michaelchase418
@michaelchase418 2 месяца назад
Nature doesn't care about us ever. We are just smart enough to utilize it, we've created lots of ways to ensure comfortable survival in much of it, but in the end- on a long enough timeline, nature is what kills us, either our human nature or the nature we can't control.
@backwoodsbrooksknives4625
@backwoodsbrooksknives4625 2 месяца назад
The worst part is that the trappers and mountain men of old did similar things to mccandless such as going alone and foraging for their food. The difference is that these where hard men who knew what it took to live in complete isolation in the wilderness for months at a time and even then a not insignificant percentage of them just died. It takes a lot of skill and luck to do what they did and the average hiker or outdoor enthusiast just doesn't have what it takes anymore.
@Databyter
@Databyter 14 дней назад
They also hauled in hundreds of pounds of supplies from town when they went on a trip for furs or exploration. They cached supplies on long trips to harvest on the way back etc. They didn't just wander into the wild from the Universal Studios Cafeteria with a Bearskin Greatcoat. Most of them had pack animals, at least to start. .
@CatStina
@CatStina 2 месяца назад
Dustin Self situation is wild. He abandoned his car with all his food in it, but kept his debit card on him...
@harveetravels4080
@harveetravels4080 3 месяца назад
I live in the Yukon Territory and the Claire Ackermann story is very close to my heart. Her boyfriend is a French guy that used to live here. Truth is that his reputation preceeded him and next to no one wanted to join him on expeditions, as his recklessness and insane risk-taking was extremely well-known. Everyone was heartbroken about Claire's death, but knowing who she was with, we weren't surprised. He never took responsibility for any of it and continued taking insane risks in the wilderness and avalanche terrain, where he was partially buried but survived. Last news of him is when he left on a shitty sailboat from Skagway Ak with little to no sailing experience. Hubris and arrogance run rampant...
@winterwolf2012
@winterwolf2012 3 месяца назад
He sounds like a Trump supporter.
@grmpEqweer
@grmpEqweer 3 месяца назад
​@@winterwolf2012 ...Maybe.
@gib59er56
@gib59er56 3 месяца назад
Indeed the ego and hubris that goes with it is profoundly disturbing, and I have zero empathy with those that behave thusly.
@chadroberts4302
@chadroberts4302 3 месяца назад
Or maybe he is happy and living his best life! Hmm.
@grmpEqweer
@grmpEqweer 3 месяца назад
@@chadroberts4302 ...But someone else might end up rescuing him. Behaving foolhardily may end up needlessly putting volunteers through a lot of work.
@KevinVenturePhilippines
@KevinVenturePhilippines 10 дней назад
I grew up in Alaska and I blame it all on arrogance, lack of preparation, and lack of respect for mother nature. Can you imagine trying to cross a rushing river in Alaska on foot with no experience? Or trying to pet a bison in Yellowstone? Pure insanity. You are not in control out there, mother nature will always win. But if you have enough respect and prepare enough, you can enjoy the wilderness all your long life. Research the right gear, don't take chances, and _always_ let somebody know where you are going and when you plan to return!
@secretamericayoutubechanne2961
@secretamericayoutubechanne2961 2 месяца назад
A lot of people dont know that his ceremonial burning of his last 7$ was just kinda for show, or how he left his last 7$ with the guy in yhe truck. But he had about 170$ cash in his back pack. He was not planning to die.
@IDunnoYouTellMe2152
@IDunnoYouTellMe2152 3 месяца назад
Guys, don’t make the trek into the wilderness to try to go find that bus. It has been moved to Healy, Alaska. You can find it and take pictures with it in the parking lot of the 49th State Brewery. It is a very cool place to eat. It’s just north of Denali State Park.
@LynnStAubin-od5qe
@LynnStAubin-od5qe 3 месяца назад
Actually, the bus was moved in 2020 to the University of Alaska Museum of the North. The bus in Healy has been a tourist replication for years. It was used for the movie.
@IDunnoYouTellMe2152
@IDunnoYouTellMe2152 3 месяца назад
@@LynnStAubin-od5qe I was there this past summer (2023). I didn’t know that. Thanks for clarifying it.
@carsandcontraband7217
@carsandcontraband7217 3 месяца назад
😂 awesome.
@gjmottet
@gjmottet 3 месяца назад
@@LynnStAubin-od5qe Does the museum plan to place it in the UAF trail system so tourists can still get their "Alaskan Pilgrimage" without the risk of people wondering off and dying? I had heard that was the plan for the bus.
@tonydemaria3386
@tonydemaria3386 3 месяца назад
They should place the bus 🚌 on top of Mt. Everest.
@susanq8925
@susanq8925 3 месяца назад
I did a lot of backpacking in my younger years and I never ceased to be amazed at the number of people I ran across who had no business being in the wilderness. No food/water, no knife, no shelter, no first aid kit, not even knowledge about local wildlife (especially bears) or how to start a fire. Couldn’t read a map, didn’t have a compass. Ignorance kills. Ignorance + lack of preparation + denial of reality are an unforgiving combo. McCandless is not to blame for those who idolized/followed him.
@elliotdryden7560
@elliotdryden7560 3 месяца назад
Same. You walk on thinking "Well, I'll start a shot-clock timeline on THOSE two..."
@kaasmeester5903
@kaasmeester5903 3 месяца назад
Never was much of a backpacker, but I've hit a few trails on holidays abroad. Yeah, I was totally "that guy": poorly prepared and unaware of potential dangers ahead. Had a few adventures as a result. Live & learn. Well, I'm glad I made it to the "live" part.
@tired7140
@tired7140 3 месяца назад
I've helped numerous people in the back country that were so ill prepared food, water, shelter it's amazing. Now I totally understand why so many people die in the wilderness.
@Malitesta
@Malitesta 3 месяца назад
Krakauer’s book and the movie are about an actor playing Mc Candless being extremely lucky to have survived a few highly cinematic epics. Unfortunately for Mc Candless and a growing number of others is that they’ve mistaken being lucky while outdoors for being capable miles from the parking lot.
@meljane8339
@meljane8339 3 месяца назад
Wierd. Where and when was that? (I was in the "hug-a-tree" generation(s))
@jossy.josette
@jossy.josette 2 месяца назад
Poor McCandless, he most definitely had depression, if not schizophrenia and he really was just trying to find peace
@yvonneconte3040
@yvonneconte3040 14 дней назад
I believe he had early onset of schizophrenia
@faeriesmak
@faeriesmak 9 дней назад
​@@yvonneconte3040 Huh. That is something that I never considered before.
@DonnaBrooks
@DonnaBrooks 2 дня назад
@@yvonneconte3040 Early onset? Doesn't schizophrenia usually occur when people are in their early-mid 20s?
@tessalyyvuo1667
@tessalyyvuo1667 23 дня назад
I appreciate the compassion you showed in the video for everyone involved. I think putting the bus in to a museum was the best option. It preserves the history and hopefully gets fewer people killed.
@dugger80
@dugger80 3 месяца назад
He is NOT responsible for anyone loss of life. They are responsible for their own actions.
@user-is3dy7rp2e
@user-is3dy7rp2e Месяц назад
Ya blaming a dead guy that wrote a diary to warn others not to do what he did is a new level of avoiding accountability.
@joniwood4925
@joniwood4925 3 месяца назад
The lesson I saw glaringly clear through the story of Into The Wild, was the fact that unless you spend years preparing for and learning how to survive in a situation like that, you're not going to. It blows my mind that so many people didn't get that and thought they could do better than he did.
@PanzerChicken69
@PanzerChicken69 3 месяца назад
Only a fool chooses to live in the wild, there is no preparing against bear attacks, breaking a lim, unforseen storms, being unable to find food/shelter etc. Modern city people massively overestimate theire own skills but have lost all connection with nature and think they can beat her with stupid technology.
@SearchIndex
@SearchIndex 3 месяца назад
Legally it’s known as ‘making extreme lifestyle sports accessible to, marketed to, and technology related to novices’ (As opposed to people who grow up in an extreme lifestyle location as ‘normal’) Historically it stems from a landmark 1979 snow skiing park legal judgment in Vermont regarding a skiing accident in a snow skiing park regarding ‘mobile youth cost prohibitive paraplegia’ The outcome of the case made national headlines overnight causing a domino effect of insurance gauging and land owner law changes So it affected how extreme lifestyle sports venues such as parks and resorts had to navigate insurance and legalities and signage and access McCandless was not adhering to park law and was legally trespassing and was not given access. So he popularized dangerous expensive illegal behavior.
@zachhessler8722
@zachhessler8722 3 месяца назад
Most of us get lucky though. We don't hear about those stories.
@Databyter
@Databyter 14 дней назад
Also, reading a few books although immensly useful, is not going to get you to the place you need to be to survive the wilderness. You need to learn skills from people who know what they are doing. You can't skin and smoke a moose by reading a book. There are just too many things that can go wrong, that are not in the book. You don't want your first attempt to be a life or death mission.
@aneikrust
@aneikrust Месяц назад
I said it in some comment already. When I was a 2nd year university student my roommate would RAVE about this film. She felt so inspired, travelling the world, hobo life, all that. She warned me to not watch the film if I don't want to be consumed by the urge to travel afterwards. :D So I did not, had 2 more years to study. Then I just kind of left it in my IMDb list. But I have met people calling themselves Supertramp, even though I did not know what it meant at that time. Fast forward maybe 12 years and I decided to finally watch it on my birthday, for some inspiration, I guess. Let me tell you - I was enraged, in disbelief, confused. I was so pissed at this guy, pissed at people who romanticise the story. Maybe I was too old for inspiration by that time, but I am glad I watched the film at 30, not at 20.
@user-ir9jo3ui6b
@user-ir9jo3ui6b 17 дней назад
I watched it and still have no desire to travel like that..I guess it's a personality trait that decides who acts on it and who doesn't.
@hildahilpert5018
@hildahilpert5018 15 дней назад
No your right. My dad had gone hunting and camping in Arkansas as a kid with some friends.They hunted for food.and general camping stuff.He stopped hunting after coming back from WW2, but would still fish.Folks in Appalachia who live in the hollows and such have been doing living off the lands since the 1700s.Same for natives people and Eskimos have done this for centuries.All these people have been trained from childhood .That,s like watching Swamp People.Those Cajuns , native Americans like the Houma, and blacks have been hunting gators for over 100 years.They learned it from their relatives, they just didn't suddenly decided to do it.
@DonnaBrooks
@DonnaBrooks 2 дня назад
Why were you pissed at HIM? He did a lot of foolish things & made bad decisions, but he was also a sympathetic character.
@freedomthroughspirit
@freedomthroughspirit Месяц назад
Hero? No. Never. Just a good kid trying to escape family abuse and figure out how to heal. Reading his sister's book was incredibly insightful (after reading Into the Wild, obviously). Truly feel for her and her brother. Incredibly tragic story on all counts.
@pursang0904
@pursang0904 3 месяца назад
I heard they removed the bus for these reasons(expensive rescues & deaths) each person is responsible for their choices no one else.
@userpharnorth
@userpharnorth 3 месяца назад
I don't remember the year, but YES the bus was removed.
@mrwhirly0358
@mrwhirly0358 3 месяца назад
@@userpharnorth 2020!
@johnanon6938
@johnanon6938 3 месяца назад
You just can't teach stupid. McCandless was totally unprepared and the majority of people who followed in his footsteps are equally unprepared. Those people who follow are 100% responsible for their own stupidity, seen that kind of stuff happening in 1980s in Canada's far north too.
@KyleHatesHiking
@KyleHatesHiking 3 месяца назад
I talked about this in the video.
@Kafkaworld739
@Kafkaworld739 3 месяца назад
Yeah it reportedly was removed in June of 2020
@dannagy546
@dannagy546 3 месяца назад
I think Les Stroud said it best, Chris McCandless was probably a very charming, intelligent young man, but he had no idea what he was doing. His experiences all ended with someone else saving him, pulling him out of trouble. He had no idea how to survive in the wild
@_nick_d
@_nick_d 3 месяца назад
Well said. Like he put all those experiences behind them & didn’t learn from them
@mi5iu491
@mi5iu491 3 месяца назад
​@nickdotson21 man that last guy to see him alive deserves props for trying to tall him out of it. He even offered to take him shopping and pay for his gear but Chris turned everything down. He only took some boots, a jacket and some stuff the guy had in his truck.
@allewis4008
@allewis4008 3 месяца назад
Chris was a parasite (he robbed local cabins), who finally ran out of chances.
@REIDAE
@REIDAE 3 месяца назад
Charming? Probably. Intelligent? An intelligent man wouldn't have died the way he did.
@lenitaa7938
@lenitaa7938 3 месяца назад
@@allewis4008That may be harsh, esp if his reasoning was because he was hungry!
@wolfgirl13555
@wolfgirl13555 2 месяца назад
It’s not fair to blame McCandless for any deaths of other people. His story is heartbreaking 💔
@user-zo9dq6qc3c
@user-zo9dq6qc3c 21 день назад
He chose that.
@michaelhendershott8604
@michaelhendershott8604 Месяц назад
It's amazing how many people are affected by movies. I read the book, and saw the movie, but was never compelled to go there. These people acted on their own.
@terrikeentk
@terrikeentk 3 месяца назад
As an Oregon native, the Oregon wild is no joke. I would never go out anywhere into the woods unprepared, you never know if you need extra blankets, food, water, ect.. even for a day trip. You truly never know what's going to happen, from your vehicle breaking down, to it getting stuck, to getting lost, to many other things like animal encounters, natural disasters and or just an accident of sorts .You just need to always be prepared for anything to happen. Also please tell someone where you're going to be and for how long so someone knows when to start an alarm if necessary.
@petergomez6991
@petergomez6991 3 месяца назад
Even in California we got snowed on backpacking one fourth of July weekend
@johnchedsey1306
@johnchedsey1306 3 месяца назад
Not to mention the Steins mountains are so remote and isolated that you're truly on your own out there. That corner of Oregon is truly empty.
@maximumeffort78
@maximumeffort78 3 месяца назад
I’m up in the PNW too! Things can get mighty desolate, disorienting, and are perpetually wet! Definitely pack for fun and for safety! And keep extras in your car. If you’re a regular out there, get a Garmin!!! And if you’re a remote or urban caver, absolutely report your plan, route, entrance and exit times.
@Nighthawk268
@Nighthawk268 2 месяца назад
Eastern Oregon backpacker here. The Eagle Caps are unlike anything else. Hells Canyon as well..
@blemishednicely8402
@blemishednicely8402 Месяц назад
Also, don't wear cotton...I live in B.C. (MUCH nicer/more hospitable climate than Alaska, for example) - the amount of people that go out for extended forays with all cotton is ridiculous... If you don't know, cotton is EXTREMELY absorbent & doesn't dry quickly or easily. Even outside of wet conditions/rain etc, it tends to get & stay wet. It also is a very cold material when wet & people routinely get hypothermic and/or freeze when it does. Even in summer, there are better materials FAR better suited to (& even designed specifically FOR) outdoor "expeditions". You'd be amazed at the amount of people that don't even consider that...don't even get me started on footwear. I've legit seen hikers hours deep in woods in flip-flops - not even GOOD ones, like $-store crap...
@petergomez6991
@petergomez6991 3 месяца назад
When i was a travel agent in the 80s, i booked a one way ticket to alaska for a teenager with a crossbow who was going to live off the land. I always wondered what happened to him
@seandelaney1700
@seandelaney1700 3 месяца назад
I guess he lived his dream thanks to you.
@dblackout1107
@dblackout1107 3 месяца назад
Hopefully survived and maybe came back with a good story
@pcnetworx1
@pcnetworx1 Месяц назад
He ded
@roddy2body
@roddy2body Месяц назад
He starved to death because he ate a certain plant, he died before the Internet was a thing! The book had me in tears.. he regretted his choices..
@DonnaBrooks
@DonnaBrooks 2 дня назад
He ate a plant that actually causes starvation because it creates a condition that prevents the body from absorbing nutrients. It was probably in the nightshade family because I think he wrote something about "potato seeds". Even with edible plants, there are some plants that can only be safely eaten at certain stages, or sometimes one part of a plant is edible, but another part is poisonous.
@TheeIntrepidTaurayon
@TheeIntrepidTaurayon 2 месяца назад
Weirdly further down the rabbit hole of deaths related to Chris is a woman who took the life of her lover. She had changed her name to Ezra McCandless because she had gained some inspiration from his story.
@HighSpeedNoDrag
@HighSpeedNoDrag 2 месяца назад
What happened to Ezra?
@avatar997
@avatar997 3 месяца назад
Can we put to rest the idea of "living off the land?" Alaskan here. Subsistence living is hard anywhere, and especially so in Alaska. The green lushness of summer is an illusion--this is starvation territory. Living off the land requires extensive knowledge of flora and fauna and no small set of back-country skills. The indigenous population followed the migrations of the caribou and knew when the salmon runs came in. This land never could support a large subsistence population and even today, growing crops is a struggle. Even the cast of Alaska "reality " shows shop at Safeway. Chris was ignorant of what exactly he was attempting. If he had possessed the knowledge to know which plants were edible and how to preserve moose meat from the animal he killed, he would have probably survived.
@rt66vintage16
@rt66vintage16 3 месяца назад
I believe I read that Chris ate berries that were poisonous to him too.
@johnchedsey1306
@johnchedsey1306 3 месяца назад
I grew up on a ranch in the mountains of Colorado. My parents had a vegetable garden and my dad butchered two cows a year to feed us. They definitely were quite good at being very self reliant. And that said...we still bought groceries and participated in the regular economy like anyone else! I'm more than happy to live in a city now and have multiple groceries stores within a mile of me.
@user-ci2mn1oy3w
@user-ci2mn1oy3w 3 месяца назад
hth you can live in alaska for 2 years and not know to have salt? Why have a mere 22lr rifle, when for another $500, you can have a 223 AR-15 and a 22lr conversion unit. ? A 60 gr Nosler partition softpoint to the brain will drop any animal short of an elephant. In really wild areas, animals are not very scared of you, especially at night. So you can get 50m brain shots with flashlight on bears, moose, etc.
@harveetravels4080
@harveetravels4080 3 месяца назад
I agree! My partner is indigenous and talking to her elders about hiking and adventures in the mountains is usually met with "Why would you do that for fun?".
@davidwilliams7552
@davidwilliams7552 3 месяца назад
Yeah he should have tried Hawaii
@GabrielTravelerVideos
@GabrielTravelerVideos 3 месяца назад
Great analysis. Here's my Chris McCandless story, for whatever the heck it's worth. I went to university in Fairbanks, Alaska from 1990-91. Worked in Denali Park in summer of '91. Transferred down to university in Juneau and had another summer of work in Denali lined up for summer of '92. I was already an experienced hitchhiker, so in early May of '92 I took a ferry from Juneau to Haines, Alaska and hitchhiked up through Canada and back into Alaska to get to Denali. This was a week after Chris had hitchhiked the same route, coming from the lower 48. He hiked into the wilderness outside of Healy and I started my job in Denali. I had friends in Fairbanks and would regularly hitchhike the route from Denali to Fairbanks, oftentimes getting dropped off in Healy and standing there waiting for another ride, with no idea at that point that Chris was just a few dozen miles to the west, living in the bus and fighting for his survival. Later that summer one of the employees for the company I worked for disappeared while on a solo backpacking trip into the park over the weekend. He had died of exposure and his body was found a few days later. Not long after this I heard about another guy who had died somewhere outside the park. Very little information was included with that story, just a report going around about another death in the area. I finished working there and then moved back to California to continue university. I had a subscription to Outside magazine. Later that fall I got the magazine in the mail with the article by Jon Krakauer telling the full story of what happened to McCandless. I made the connection and realized this was the other guy who had died that summer. I was blown away to read the full account of his life and especially to realize that I'd hitchhiked right behind him and then was living my life not far away from him while he was going through his ordeal. Years later, in 2017 I went back to work in Denali once again. Employee housing was in Healy. While I was there I learned that the bus that was used in the movie was parked at a bar right down the road, so I went there to visit it. It was filled with photos of Chris and copies of his journal writings. I really wanted to hike out to the real bus, but I only had weekends off and that didn't give me enough time to make the trek. Later I learned they had moved the bus out of the wilderness and it was now on the UAF campus in Fairbanks. In the fall of 2022 I had a trip planned to Alaska, including to Fairbanks. So I went to UAF and visited the bus, which was parked inside a room in one of the buildings on campus, where they were doing some work on it, I guess to place it in a museum somewhere. So that was a real full circle moment for me. As for who is responsible the other people's deaths, I would say that McCandless has zero responsibility. Anyone who hikes into the wilderness voluntarily is at the mercy of the wild and must take full responsibility for the risks involved. Still, they're all very sad stories. Life is a risk, be smart, do your homework, be prepared but eventually, if you want to go on an adventure, you'll have to make a leap into the unknown without knowing what is going to happen.
@kanamichelle7404
@kanamichelle7404 3 месяца назад
Interesting crossover story.
@CoalCreekCroft
@CoalCreekCroft 3 месяца назад
Good story. One suggestion: PARAGRAPH BREAKS.
@GabrielTravelerVideos
@GabrielTravelerVideos 3 месяца назад
@@CoalCreekCroft Good idea, done.
@CoalCreekCroft
@CoalCreekCroft 3 месяца назад
@@GabrielTravelerVideos Sorry for being a critical jackass; usually I get grief but am a proofreader and insufferable. And also been begged to do the same! Never stop; excellent telling but some people freak out at large chunks ... yet will read 3x without a problem with breaks. Human nature. Cheers. Keep it up.
@shadowprovesunshine
@shadowprovesunshine 3 месяца назад
Wow totally full circle. Tyfs
@MichaelWhite-cx4ho
@MichaelWhite-cx4ho Месяц назад
One of the worst things that McCandless did was disappear and have absolutely zero contact with his sister, who he was supposedly close to, during that period of time. To me, that is inexcusable. I understand the supposed "explanation" of why McCandless was pissed at his father, but to disappear for 2 years with no contact, not even bothering to check in to let them know that he was okay, then ending up dead in the Alaskan wilderness?! McCandless was most definitely NOT a hero! Closer to a zero, IMO.
@Databyter
@Databyter 14 дней назад
He was having a good pout.
@MichaelWhite-cx4ho
@MichaelWhite-cx4ho 13 дней назад
@@Databyter Suburban brat "Gone Wild." Nowadays, he would have skipped the misadventure and nationwide missing person search and settled for simply changing his gender at his local research hospital.
@milansikela8383
@milansikela8383 23 дня назад
Even before I heard about Chris McCandless, I've been in the outdoors (from so-called "glamping" to "roughing it") and I have never fooled myself into thinking that being permanently off the grid and living from the land would be easy, liberating, or fun. It's hard work. Very hard work. Much respect to those who have done it successfully. Chris's story was tragic. I'll never forget one of the takeaways from Chris's experience was the realization that Mother Nature was just as brutal and unforgiving as the human society he left behind.
@wheredowelive
@wheredowelive 17 дней назад
Depends on where you live. 🤣
@ivettearnaud2770
@ivettearnaud2770 2 месяца назад
Thank you for this!!! I appreciate your respect towards the influence this story has had on so many. ....I was not aware that the bloody bus was removed. My son is an Eagle Scout and my niece has been hiking all along the south east. Every time they go into the woods, the wild, as family, we will always worry for them and their safety. The key note here, as you so eloquently put it out of respect for the ones who met an untimely demise and not using common sense, I agree,,,,,,, A chilling reminder.....Caution to all... It's a tale to show you what not to do.
@Bingewatchingmediacontent
@Bingewatchingmediacontent 3 месяца назад
In 1991 I worked at a lodge in Glacier Bay Alaska. After a few months I got a job at the only cafe in the small town of Gustavus, AK, and lived in a shack. There I met a variety of odd characters coming through on their search for some kind of new life. One of these people was a very thin young man who had been making his way across Alaska living in plastic garbage bags. He told me his life philosophy, which is that people actually need a lot less to live than they think they do, including “proper equipment.” I went back to the lower 48 in the Fall to continue my studies, but I always wondered if I encountered McCandless, or just someone like him. These folks, totally unprepared for the winter, seeking a life closer to the wilderness, mostly anti social or a bit “off,” are all over Alaska. Some of them don’t make it.
@marcmeinzer8859
@marcmeinzer8859 3 месяца назад
When I was a camper at Northwoods Camp, Lake Temagami, Ontario, we naturally had a full outfit of freeze dried food and cooking gear along with our wood & canvas canoes naturally, and we would run into outward bound type people who couldn’t feed themselves. So we’d feed them. That totally cured me of any desire to live off of the land.
@seandelaney1700
@seandelaney1700 3 месяца назад
I have just always assumed there is a small bit of that in everyone who ever left to Alaska.
@MT-it9qt
@MT-it9qt 3 месяца назад
@Bingewatchingmediacontent just saw your comment after commenting: In the early '90s (can't pin down the exact year as it is decades ago, but 90-92 feels very right) I attended an english class at North Seattle Community College. There was one personality I distinctly remember. Judging by the reactions of other members of the class I am sure I am not alone. The young man was tall and thin. He seemed educated and his vocabulary and method of communicating an idea was often very difficult to follow, not because he sounded irrational but because he sounded complex. He also came across to me as being presumptuous, like someone who would attend a low level english class for the purpose of basting all around him in his intellect. Although I cannot remember his exact name, most of us chuckled when he told it to the class. It seemed very far fetched, very made up. Alexander Supertramp very much fits my memory of the chuckle-inducing name. He described to the class that he was living in Discovery park, in the bushes of that very overgrown park, eating pigeons over his campfire. He stood out as a unique loner.
@apriljk6557
@apriljk6557 3 месяца назад
​@@MT-it9qt It's sad so many, usually privileged, young people think suffering is their only way to self-actualization or enlightenment.
@ThatGirlJD
@ThatGirlJD 2 месяца назад
​@@apriljk6557Sometimes people who have mental pain try to use physical pain to drown their mental anguish.
@samanthajohnston9269
@samanthajohnston9269 3 месяца назад
I think McCandless' story should be told but as a warning story about living your life but being prepared for whatever that means. If your that passionate about anything in life then you should learn about it all the good/bad stuff. With proper education and supplies his pilgrimage into the wild would be inspiring.
@lindasteller
@lindasteller Месяц назад
Certainly the deaths of all the young people are tragic, but I'll never understand how the story of one young man dying a tragic death serves as inspiration to anyone. Heartbreaking.
@wheredowelive
@wheredowelive 17 дней назад
Might be because many people long for nature and freedom from the sh*t show that is "modern life."
@briansymmes7917
@briansymmes7917 Месяц назад
I read that there was a proper cable crossing with a basket a mile or so down river for crossing during floods, but as McCandless didn’t have a map, on which the wire “bridge” was marked, he thought he was stuck on his side, and suffering from giardia, he slowly starved to death.
@tay-lore
@tay-lore 3 месяца назад
I can't think of a worse hiking destination than the death-site of Chris McCandless. I don't understand people...
@blowinshtup6553
@blowinshtup6553 3 месяца назад
the bus isn’t even there anymore. it was removed.
@sherryrutledge8792
@sherryrutledge8792 3 месяца назад
@tay-lore…..We all watched this! He said in the video they removed this bus. But not b4 these lives were taken!
@AmanoShiyaku
@AmanoShiyaku 3 месяца назад
Same as people attracted by places where massacres occurred. Morbid curiosity. Death attracts people.
@zachhessler8722
@zachhessler8722 3 месяца назад
It's not his death they are paying homage to but his choice to step across the threshold and into the unknown.
@bluecollarlit
@bluecollarlit 3 месяца назад
It's kind of like those people who went down in the ocean in the submersible to see the Titanic.
@michaelfelt8940
@michaelfelt8940 3 месяца назад
As John Wayne once said, Life is hard. It's even harder when you're stupid."
@nineteeneightynine432
@nineteeneightynine432 3 месяца назад
Living is hard enough without you fucking up -Breaking Benjamin
@casssmith2610
@casssmith2610 3 месяца назад
Absolute truth
@casssmith2610
@casssmith2610 3 месяца назад
Each person is responsible for their own behavior. Individually.
@JenneeB927
@JenneeB927 3 месяца назад
Absolutely! 👏👏
@brickjamesOG
@brickjamesOG 3 месяца назад
😂
@MsAdlerHolmes
@MsAdlerHolmes 2 месяца назад
I find it interesting that people want to re-create McCandless' story, but no one is trying to follow in Timothy Treadwell's footsteps. The people telling his story do have somewhat of a responsibility to avoid romanticising McCandless' story. I'm glad the Alaskan government removed the bus. Unfortunately, there will always be people who think they can do it, where others have failed.
@daisyfox2452
@daisyfox2452 17 дней назад
I remember when I read Into the Wild. It struck me as a tale of hubris and arrogance.
@namor3607
@namor3607 3 месяца назад
I never thought he was a hero, I just thought it was sad. He seemed to touch many of the people who he encountered along the way quite deeply, which compounds the sadness of his passing.
@wolfman8449
@wolfman8449 3 месяца назад
Young man with childhood trauma that went out there to live and die. Not a hero but a sympathetic character. Lots of young people didn't know and don't know how to deal with it. Get professional help and qualified support. Nature can help with healing but it's not a cure.
@sherrydurham2220
@sherrydurham2220 3 месяца назад
I think you're right some of these folks including the 1st guy seem to have been going there to die.
@_nick_d
@_nick_d 3 месяца назад
@@sherrydurham2220I think Chris got disillusioned by reading about it in books & got a taste of Alaska & he changed his mind about everything too late
@sherrydurham2220
@sherrydurham2220 3 месяца назад
@@_nick_d so sad
@tired7140
@tired7140 3 месяца назад
That's why I'm glad that I had lots of friends growing up so we could tell each other how stupid some ideas were. Lots of good friends, nothing better.
@tired7140
@tired7140 3 месяца назад
@@_nick_d I've been to Alaska several times and it's NOT the place to go trotting out in the wilderness on an adventure. When your in the wilderness Alaska your on the menu. Plus the weather changes are very drastic and show up in minutes. It's easy not to be prepared there.
@InnocentAlaska
@InnocentAlaska Месяц назад
I flew to Alaska a year ago to see the bus , they were working on restoring it for a museum.. very happy they moved it.
@thruknobulaxii2020
@thruknobulaxii2020 2 месяца назад
If I was going to point to anyone, it would be the film makers who made starving to death _so inspiring._ What did they think would happen?
@billlabrie-so6ek
@billlabrie-so6ek 3 месяца назад
Blaming him is not right as he didn’t make the movie… I went to Alaska when I was 15 after my mom died and lived for 17 yrs in a old shack and made a outhouse and my life was very hard but only difference is I didn’t die. By the time I watched the movie , I felt like I was watching myself but only in reverse as I had traveled to all the places Christopher had in the movie not knowing and settled down on the Colorado river where I have been since . I thought I had made a bad mistakes going to Alaska after surviving each winter with no utilities the whole time I was there and Christopher really made a bad decision but in no way did he cause others to die
@joshbrewer7750
@joshbrewer7750 3 месяца назад
Sure, Buddy
@lesleycouch6557
@lesleycouch6557 3 месяца назад
No one's really blaming him, just downplaying the heroism of a sad and unnecessary death.
@patrickhenry8425
@patrickhenry8425 3 месяца назад
No need to be rude, buddy@@joshbrewer7750
@alisonauton4064
@alisonauton4064 3 месяца назад
Movie? How about read a book?
@patrickhenry8425
@patrickhenry8425 3 месяца назад
What a shitty group of people this channel has@@alisonauton4064
@userpharnorth
@userpharnorth 3 месяца назад
One thing to learn is that you cross rivers, creeks, and streams in the morning. The water is lower. Not as much melt water rushing past. Always look for other areas to cross the river.
@MotJ949
@MotJ949 3 месяца назад
And if it’s deeper than your outsoles, you’re at risk! Meltwater is so fickle, you don’t have to cross it *now*.
@judywright4241
@judywright4241 3 месяца назад
It made a point in the book, if he had continued up the river, there still was a passable route--SHOWN ON MAPS, that he had claimed ‘was cheating’, so he didn’t even try.
@userpharnorth
@userpharnorth 3 месяца назад
I was living in Alaska at the time. We were all thought he just wanted to die. Because he didn't have to be so stuck. @@judywright4241
@mommy2libras
@mommy2libras 3 месяца назад
This wasn't so much a time of day issue as it was a time of year issue- when traveling through Alaska it is important to know the timetables of any waterways you plan to encounter, what times of year they are affected by different things. He'd gone in in April but when he tried to leave in August, that river had gotten hit by glacier runoff. Others will be more swollen in spring and early summer due to breakup and ice/snow melt.
@helialaska
@helialaska 3 месяца назад
@@judywright4241 He could have just as easily walked south into the park and rode a bus out and not crossed any of the glacier melt rivers and would have been about the same distance as it was for him when he walked in during the spring when the glaciers weren't melting. I used to fly people out to 142 when I worked for Era Helicopters in 2012. Was an optional tour we did.
@mattahlschwede4810
@mattahlschwede4810 2 месяца назад
It doesn't really matter who is responsible, there's enough blame to go around. What does matter is that somebody finally removed that bus. Now the people who want to see it can do so from the safety of a museum.
@Firevine
@Firevine 2 месяца назад
"I want to go get high and rough it in the mountains of Oregon" Meanwhile, I know that even stone cold sober, not to mess around with the mountains of _Georgia_ I don't like people, I'm plenty resourceful, I am growing increasingly sick of the intrusion of technology in our lives, and I _still_ don't mess around with this. I can know how to build shelter, forage, etc all day long, but a timber rattler is still going to get my ass. The responsibility lies on the people who struck out into the wilderness. No one else. No one forced them to do that. My grandmother lived in the mountains of western North Carolina, and I grew up within walking distance of Chattahoochee River flood plains. It's real easy to learn what not to mess with.
@camaroguy84
@camaroguy84 3 месяца назад
I can understand why McCandless did what he did, but being so unaware and naive is just dangerous.
@damonroberts7372
@damonroberts7372 3 месяца назад
"Unaware and naive" is true enough, but more to the point he was mentally ill. A lot of his behavior, well before he even got to Alaska, speaks of someone descending into psychosis.
@katemaloney4296
@katemaloney4296 3 месяца назад
He was deliberately naive. If he had listened to one person who offered advice, maybe . . .who knows.
@EMurph42
@EMurph42 3 месяца назад
Arrogant I think is a good adjective.
@Maxine1630
@Maxine1630 3 месяца назад
He was too!
@ejtattersall156
@ejtattersall156 3 месяца назад
A spoiled rich kid.
@jonnyqwst
@jonnyqwst 3 месяца назад
I read at the end of the book, the author conjectured that by throwing away the map, he was an explorer in terra incognito. Had he still had the map he’d had known that a bridge that would save him was within a days hike away.
@dbill27
@dbill27 3 месяца назад
A days hike my ass. Maybe a week if you’re lucky.
@wiffley
@wiffley 3 месяца назад
And, he didn't seem to explore his terra incognita very much at all... there was a cabin not that far away that had a lot of food stored in it. And, why didn't he keep a watch on the river? It's not like he didn't have enough free time.
@dbill27
@dbill27 3 месяца назад
@@wiffley the river was ten miles away from his camp, not easy to just “keep a watch on it”. Dear god the amount of people who confidently comment on things they know nothing about never ceases to amaze me. He didn’t “explore” his area much the same reason he wasn’t going to just casually walk 20 miles to the national park road, you can’t just easily walk around in the alaskan tundra in the summer.
@wiffley
@wiffley 3 месяца назад
@dbill27 Actually, I know what tundra is, and you seem to be pretending to know what it is. A 10-mile hike on flat terrain is not a big deal to a fit outdoors-person....an easy daily trip back and forth.
@dbill27
@dbill27 3 месяца назад
@@wiffley yeah let’s just do a twenty mile round trip hike back to check on the river once a week while you’re losing body weight, that is absolutely genius and I can’t believe he didn’t do that.
@onealfamily1
@onealfamily1 Месяц назад
I was fascinated with Chris’s story back when Krakauer first wrote the book in 1996, but it never occurred to me to want to follow his tracks. I mean, he DIED. Even when I went to Alaska 30 yrs later, I didn’t want to follow his trail. I’m not understanding the impulse to follow death.
@walkslikeanelephant
@walkslikeanelephant Месяц назад
He doesn't deserve the blame, he also doesn't deserve the praise. Plain and simple Christopher McCandless was 24 years old at time of death he was still a baby and he made some bad decisions and it cost him everything.
@Hawther
@Hawther 3 месяца назад
McCandless went out to those woods seemingly without much intention of coming back, but like many he changed his mind after it was too late. Krakauer and the producers of the film framed his slow suicide as aspirational. Before Alaska he was living out in Slab City, which is another place people should not be following his footsteps.
@BeatlesCentricUniverse
@BeatlesCentricUniverse 3 месяца назад
Nonsense. His backpack contained $300 cash and all his actual ID. Which was discovered long after the backpack was found. McCandless knew he was taking a risk but never intended to die out there. And I completely disagree that Krakauer and the filmmakers framed his "slow suicide as aspirational."
@patmanchester8045
@patmanchester8045 3 месяца назад
Romance? Charm? There was nothing romantic or charming about the obvious slow train reck to death that McCandless took.
@caulkins69
@caulkins69 3 месяца назад
Exactly. It astounds me that so many people seem to view Chris McBrainless (aka Alexander Superchump) as a courageous hero.
@lenitaa7938
@lenitaa7938 3 месяца назад
@@caulkins69He was gutsy and courageous! He would have likely survived if not for the river! For all we know, he may have learned from his mistakes in judgement!
@knottynumbers44
@knottynumbers44 3 месяца назад
@@lenitaa7938 If he was so gutsy and courageous, at age 24 mind you - how come he never told his sister where he was or reached out to say he was okay? When you are 24 years old you can do as you wish. He took no ownership of his actions or considered the consequences for himself or the people who cared about him. He may have been intelligent, but he was emotionally immature, suffered from magical thinking and died because of it. There's no courage there.
@clayton56tube
@clayton56tube 3 месяца назад
he exchanged worry about society for worry about what to eat
@ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511
@ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511 2 месяца назад
the movie was good tho
@jamesmaxdavissands
@jamesmaxdavissands 2 месяца назад
Extremely well done! Touchy subject - Many perspectives. I was actually angry through most of this for personal reasons BUT when you closed with the removal of the bus & (most importantly) the Official Statement it was so uplifting, honest, & compassionate I was just stunned. Fine job!
@mhzprayer
@mhzprayer Месяц назад
Theres no giant sweeping statement to make. The mistake seems to be trying to cross a river that was not safe to cross. We can't comdemn them for hiking, they just made a bad decision at the river. One had an escape plan, the other didn't. Seems they should have discussed that part. Its a tragic mistake but has nothing to do with anything else except that.
@karenscoville6307
@karenscoville6307 3 месяца назад
We moved to Alaska when I was 12. We were very poor and had to live in a shack the first winter there. The window above my bed was broke and caused ice to form on the INSIDE of my room and my blankets would get froze to the wall! We also had to use an outhouse and that is an experience that you will never forget. It's no joke living in Alaska. I loved it though. Miss you guts!!!
@markr.1984
@markr.1984 3 месяца назад
You miss guts?
@thisistheend_777
@thisistheend_777 3 месяца назад
​@markr.1984 yeah, he pooped his guts out in the outhouse duh 😉
@cliffordbowman6777
@cliffordbowman6777 3 месяца назад
You couldn’t find anything to cover that window, piece of wood, pine what’s-nothing? Wasn’t there sounds like you were expecting window to cover itself.
@jlt131
@jlt131 3 месяца назад
i'm near the BC/WA border and get ice that forms inside my windows in the winter too. lol and it's no shack! just old windows. thankfully it's only for a couple weeks a year.
@lindawilson4625
@lindawilson4625 3 месяца назад
"Hey! I heard about the Into the Wild story and that guy who died a there. Oh! Yes! Let's go there! And we'll climb Everest next. It'll be fun!" People are crazy. Love your channel :-)
@Zzyzzyx
@Zzyzzyx 3 месяца назад
Exactly! The deaths are 100% the responsibility of those who died.
@user-co8uy5rb2s
@user-co8uy5rb2s 3 месяца назад
Let's go see the Titanic in a plastic sub.
@Zzyzzyx
@Zzyzzyx 3 месяца назад
@@user-co8uy5rb2s IKR!!?? Precisely.
@Pipsqwak
@Pipsqwak 3 месяца назад
People are crazy- and frickin' stupid, too.
@muchtested
@muchtested 3 месяца назад
@@user-co8uy5rb2s Don't forget to squeeze into a cave after that.
@stevendblois69
@stevendblois69 2 месяца назад
As a Canadian...i did his trip...and more, 2 yrs.before him. Not the same paths or any of that, but safely, with $ and connections. It is knowledge and survival skills, with support that allows the journey. 9 months i trekked . Alone. Depends on you. ! Not society. P.s. John Krakauer is a great man, and i thank him for the book!
@seanb.4712
@seanb.4712 2 месяца назад
The movie "Into the Wild" did not paint Chris as a hero. I believe it portrayed him as an idealistic kid who was trying to figure out his life. Chris did NOT want to die. It was a tragedy made of naive, bad decisions he made along the way. The poisoning by eating the wrong berries sealed his fate. He was already weak. Imagining losing 35-40lbs of your body weight, then getting the worst sickness of your life, then try to trek out 25 miles to the nearest town with no food. Just sad.
@HalfShelli
@HalfShelli 3 месяца назад
I don't think Jon Krakauer romanticized McCandless's story; I read "Into The Wild" very much as a cautionary tale.
@AmanoShiyaku
@AmanoShiyaku 3 месяца назад
People romanticized the movie at least. Maybe not the book (I didn't read it) but I've seen the movie and I can understand that "hypnosis" it can create on some people. Also, when you read a book, you also onboard your own feelings and back story so yes, reading is a personal experience and no book has to be blamed. Except if the book stances that it's funny to jump into ice cold water in the middle of Alaska ;)
@NapaValleyVegan
@NapaValleyVegan 3 месяца назад
It does seem that Sean Penn romanticized Chris’ experience. My husband loved the movie so I finally watched it. I really enjoyed it too but I didn’t want to follow in his footsteps. I saw someone damaged and searching for meaning who seemed okay with taking risks. He seemed to thrive on high risk, high reward regardless of the dangers he experienced!
@KimmyWood
@KimmyWood 3 месяца назад
I thought it was sad
@Lostfalls
@Lostfalls 3 месяца назад
I agree Jon did a good job presenting the facts, Chris’s side and his family’s point of view. When you read the book it’s like watching a train coming through a tunnel and hit you in very slow motion. I don’t think he romanticized at all. It was tragic and sad. The MOVIE DID romanticize it. Made Chris look like a misunderstood modern hippy philosopher didn’t show the more unsavory activities he engaged in.
@13thmistral
@13thmistral 3 месяца назад
@@AmanoShiyaku The movie pretty much makes sure the story is cautionary at the end though. The people who miss that one really lack common sense.
@Jazzykatt23
@Jazzykatt23 3 месяца назад
I read the book. Chris McCandless’ story is one that infuriates me because it was completely senseless. He was totally unprepared, and had no skills. He didn’t believe in being a slave to the working system, but had no problem taking from others who had to work. There’s so much wrong with his idealistic views
@chriscon8463
@chriscon8463 3 месяца назад
I’m actually reading the book right now; I’m about 1/2 way through it! I think your assessment of McCandless is spot on.
@megnakamura7652
@megnakamura7652 3 месяца назад
You should read The Wild Truth by his sister.
@chriscon8463
@chriscon8463 3 месяца назад
@@megnakamura7652 Thanks! I’ll look for it.
@tillitsdone
@tillitsdone 3 месяца назад
I took from the book that he had kind of an enlarged ego. It was subtle, but a kind of hubris, which ended up dooming him.
@Jazzykatt23
@Jazzykatt23 3 месяца назад
@@megnakamura7652 thanks for the recommendation. I didn’t know she wrote a book.
@chandrahardy42
@chandrahardy42 2 месяца назад
They have since removed the bus for the very reason that people started using it as a destination to give homage to this unfortunate man's story. So for anybody out there who wants to visit the mccandless's last campsite, the bus and the campsite are longer there.
@cityshadeswoodworkin
@cityshadeswoodworkin 2 месяца назад
Into the Wild inspired me but not to go into the actual Alaskan wilderness. It inspired me to leave behind the dead end job I had for years and pursue an actual career. I started my own business in this career too. This experience took me to so many places and I met so many people good and bad. I grew up and went from being a meek and sheltered rich kid to someone who is maybe a little more attuned to the rest of the world. My journey didn't end well too because like Chris I didn't know how to thrive in this kind of way. My business imploded, I was in debt, all my savings were wiped out, I owed taxes, could not afford basic necessities. But I was alive and not stuck in Alaska, I recovered and here I am. So I'm writing this to say maybe you can be inspired by Into the Wild without hitchhiking to Alaska. Or maybe you do.
@jen92465
@jen92465 3 месяца назад
I appreciate that you have done this video downplaying the “heroism” of Christopher Mcandless (sp?). I go back to something all parents have said to their children - “if so and so jumped off a bridge, would you also jump off the bridge?” Going to Alaska is no joke and living off the land is no joke.
@Nylak-Otter
@Nylak-Otter 3 месяца назад
Yup. I backpack through Alaska looking for predators in their natural habitats seasonally (I'm an animal behaviorist and specialize in wild and domesticated canids), but I'm also a Search and Rescue K9 handler/trainer, so I'm extremely overprepared. I understand the appeal. It's my dream biome. My first month-long backpacking through trip was when I was about 10, just accompanied by my older sister, and I fell in love with it. But I've also seen every which way that things have gone wrong for others, as well. Basically, he was an idiot, and he disrespected the local wildlife, lands, and humans.
@clayton56tube
@clayton56tube 3 месяца назад
in Boy Scouts we did a survival campout where we lived off the land for a day. We gathered cattail tubers, sassafrass tea, watercress, and gigged frogs (I was a champion frog catcher). Cool, but we spent all day working on just gathering food, and didn't eat until after dark. And it took teamwork, a couple dozen people locating various sources of food, not to mention the source book of what to look for to eat. One thing our scout leaders told us is back in simpler times, acquiring food took six to ten hours a day. Not that easy.
@AubreyShelton-rr7yy
@AubreyShelton-rr7yy 3 месяца назад
Sorry for the frogs
@jaybleu6169
@jaybleu6169 3 месяца назад
And in those simpler times, they had infrastructure to support that lifestyle. Hunter-gatherers didn't just wander into the forest to find what just happened to be there. They actively managed the land to produce the amount and types of food they needed. What a modern person experiences going into the woods looking for stuff to eat is not what a member of an established hunter-gatherer group would have experienced.
@anonone8954
@anonone8954 3 месяца назад
Literally hand to mouth survival.
@realestatess
@realestatess 3 месяца назад
The very reason the Boy Scouts don't exist anymore is from cringey scout leaders being pervs.
@Autonamatonamaton
@Autonamatonamaton 3 месяца назад
Not to mention that historically, we had far more wild animals, plants and fishes than we do now, thanks to overfishing / environmental degradation it's become far harder to try to gather wild sustenance compared to hunter gatherer times​@@jaybleu6169
@joejugashvili3616
@joejugashvili3616 18 дней назад
I live in Queensland, Australia. We have the flip side here. From time to time, we get foreign tourists, sometimes with their kids, driving off into some outback trail looking for adventure and getting bogged or otherwise stranded. Often they break down, run out of fuel, didn't bring enough water, food etc. You don't last long in 50 deg heat and no shade or water.
@greyscout01
@greyscout01 2 месяца назад
Yes. The answer to your question is Yes. McCandliss' story AND the people to follow are to blame. His story romanticized the idea. Inexperienced people followed his mistake.
@DonnaBrooks
@DonnaBrooks 2 дня назад
He didn't write the book or make the movie. He never told his story, except to the people he met along the way.
@samuelwestlund3386
@samuelwestlund3386 3 месяца назад
The most obvious indicator that Chris was not cut out for wilderness survival is that he couldn't build a shelter and had to squat in an abandoned bus. Not a good role model.
@hikingadventureswithshanba1365
@hikingadventureswithshanba1365 3 месяца назад
I just recently watched the movie and I couldn’t believe the story. He had no business being there. Or taking time to learn skills before trying to venture out.
@davidwlee8752
@davidwlee8752 3 месяца назад
Most obvious indicator that he wasn't cut to live in the wild was that he died.😂
@gabrieladerre2862
@gabrieladerre2862 3 месяца назад
Exactly! The hubris and stupidity is nearly Timothy Treadwell level.
@andrewdriver3318
@andrewdriver3318 3 месяца назад
Yeah, I saw "spoiled rich kid goes to the woods and thinks he knows more than the people that live there". The whole movie he meets people that know what they are doing and are even willing to help him, but continuously blows off their help, advice and warnings because of his own elitist hubris.
@user-nj6yb3ob5j
@user-nj6yb3ob5j 3 месяца назад
Do not watch the movie. Read the book. What led up to his death was a clear path. He got away with mistakes that he did not learn from. The truly sad part is had he taken the map offered to him he would be alive, he was less than 5 miles from a ranger station that he could have walked to.
@ehrenbowling
@ehrenbowling 3 месяца назад
I sat next to his childhood next door neighbor on a long flight back home after the holidays with family. She said his parents are absolutely to blame for that young man’s demise. She said the yelling coming from the house by both parents could be heard inside her house next door. She said they also presented well kept but it was no secret that the family was deeply troubled. She said she often tried to help in non threatening ways but the children would do their part to keep up appearances until Chris finally snapped. Was really hard to hear this. I grew up in a similar home and it’s scars are easily seen.
@phucdong-er6ct
@phucdong-er6ct 3 месяца назад
i hear it 3 houses down from me. A woman verbally abusing her son. I am sorry. People are so messed up.
@ravenbaa7989
@ravenbaa7989 3 месяца назад
I grew up with lots of yelling but I didn’t run like chris
@holliemae5812
@holliemae5812 3 месяца назад
Of course you did. Every story on RU-vid has someone who knew someone or something. I don’t believe it sorry
@ehrenbowling
@ehrenbowling 3 месяца назад
@@holliemae5812 whew! Glad I am not your son 😮‍💨
@ehrenbowling
@ehrenbowling 3 месяца назад
@@phucdong-er6ct it’s especially hard when a boy is stuck in a society where he’s not supposed to show weakness or ask for help because it’s bad optics for the familial facade. I preferred my dad hit me than my mom yell at me, the things she would say to a child to have to digest is worthy of punishment.
@JB-gr3tr
@JB-gr3tr Месяц назад
Part of the untold story is the abuse and family disfunction Chris and his siblings went through when growing up. His actions were driven by undealt with trauma, much of this info is from his sister's book "The Wild Truth"
@akithemacaw8212
@akithemacaw8212 11 дней назад
I've been born and raised in Oregon, and I'm not sure if it's just me, but I feel like every single Oregonian is at least taught to be respectful of the wilderness. Not only are we taught that the land gives back if you are resourceful and take care of your surroundings, but we're taught that Oregon has a wide range of weather conditions, potentially from hour to hour, and it can be difficult to predict. Many people here, including myself, say that the weather here is bipolar, and there are almost no full days that are completely perfect for outdoor activity, despite how much we love the outdoors here. Whether it be -8° (F) nights in the winter, 110° (F) summer days, 6 feet of snow, a nearly unbearable drought, flash floods, or simply whipping winds that send a chill down your spine, none of it is pleasant when your in it for hours at a time, and it's always good to carry some amount of gear and a method of self-defense if you're going more than 300 ft. away from a building and your vehicle. The animals and terrain can be brutal here, and the same goes for Alaska
@joshleyva2249
@joshleyva2249 3 месяца назад
Into the Wild was a sad story because along the way McCandless met all kinds of people who loved him & wanted him to stick around with them. He ended up dying along because he refused to see that.
@pattamus1
@pattamus1 2 месяца назад
He was mentally ill IMO, about 90% sure. He most likely had PTSD and anti-social disorder and delusions of grandeur (thinking he could do anything alone and needed no one). Just from a psychology student yet to graduate.
@blainwilson7937
@blainwilson7937 2 месяца назад
He was deeply troubled and I believe a part of him was just fed up with the bs of life so in a way, he had a death wish.
@MiaDoe-fr1pz
@MiaDoe-fr1pz 2 месяца назад
Or, was unable to realize that. I'm not saying who is wrong or right about him just that we may never know. I purchased the book because I enjoyed reading Jon Krakauer works. This man's story is tragic and when I read about a piece of someone's life like this, I feel there is more to the story. I don't need to know it all. RIP brave soul. ❤
@marykwart9331
@marykwart9331 2 месяца назад
When the movie was being made in AK, they paid locals who encountered Mccandliss to not talk to an AK documentarian who wanted to tell the truth. I saw that documentary.
@marykwart9331
@marykwart9331 2 месяца назад
Native people have successfully lived where MCcandless died for centuries. His solo approach to survival reflected the dominant EuroAmerican individualist paradigm that in truth is total idiocy for actually surviving.
@dfpytwa
@dfpytwa 3 месяца назад
I did a lot of crazy shit like that in my youth. In my early teens I spent a couple of summers living off the land out in the swamps around SE Texas to stay away from my crazy ass mother and grandmother then returned when school started. I had learned how to survive on my own from my grandad who was estranged from them by the most part and I lived with him whenever I could after my dad was out of the picture. He was an old cowboy, former US Marshal and gunslinger who spent most of his life living on the trail off a horse. After my mom died of cancer I lived with him in Indiana for a couple years and when he died I ended up with my crazy grandmother again as a late teen. That's when I got into crime, went to work for a local mob guy mostly as a gofer and drug mule. He got whacked and a local war broke out so I disappeared into the Marine Corps at 18. The Marines straightened me out as far as my aspirations of being a career criminal was concerned but I felt I was just being used by them and did my 4 and got out. I spent a year living off of my motorcycle working temp jobs and under the table jobs up the west coast, stealth camping most of the time and staying in fleabag motels to save money. I was also hiding caches that I would need along the Pacific Crest Trail that I was planning to hike the next year. I did the hike way low budget doing some sketchy legality shit along the way to survive since I didn't have any support other than a buddy who helped me out for a bit until I hit the Sierras then I was on my own. I made the hike way behind schedule and almost died on several occasions including having to deal with snow and ice on the last couple hundred miles. I hitch hiked and road the rails back to Southern California, got my bike out of storage and road it to Indiana in the fucking winter and almost died again. I spent the rest of the winter with my crazy grandmother just working a handful of temp jobs here and there then worked for a few months on a construction project in South Bend that next summer stealth camping in the area off of my bike then as a forklift driver for a printing company in Berne. I got fed up with the shitty jobs there and road back to California on my motorcycle in the fucking winter again almost dying. Got a good job there and and a career going on and stayed there for 30 years. Now I live off grid in the AZ desert, everyone I have loved is dead including my kids. Just me and a couple of my deceased wife's cats. I will probably die out here alone and the cats will eat me. At least that dude died doing what he loved to do. I feel I wasted my life trying to live a normal family life which just resulted in heartbreak and failure. The happiest times in my life was when I was living on the road or trail despite the survival hassles nature threw at me that I had to deal with. Dealing with people the last 40 years that has majorly sucked and not proved to be rewarding.
@godizself1
@godizself1 3 месяца назад
You wrote 8 chapters there. Use ChatGPT and have your own novel. I'll read it.
@dayzeronew4487
@dayzeronew4487 3 месяца назад
very cool story!..you should write a book Man!...& yes living a life of conformity really sucks, but it does pay the bills! lol
@moirahill6397
@moirahill6397 3 месяца назад
Regardless, you have a great story to tell. I'd read your book if you wrote one! I'm sorry for your losses though man. Take care.
@seandelaney1700
@seandelaney1700 3 месяца назад
Thank you for sharing your life's journey. It was clearly going to be a hard road for you from the get go. I am impressed that you made of it what you did from such a young age. Mine was a life of privilege to outsiders but not exactly easy or pain free. I'm impressed you cowboyed your way through it, it seemed so romantic until you got to the end and I was surprised you felt you wasted your life living normal. You are not a failure. You survived that which many would not. You outlasted them all. Unfortunately your family life did not prepare you for the difficulties of relationships. Life can't be easy in the desert and yet you persist, you were designed from a young age to persevere through difficulty. We are all challenged to the degree we our worthy and you clearly are worthy of great challenges. Please take comfort and solace in all your experiences and difficulties and challenges overcome, you deserve it.
@user-ns3mw3us6h
@user-ns3mw3us6h 3 месяца назад
Seek Jesus Christ for TRUTH and purpose for your Life. He’s the only answer to find Eternal Life. ✝️❤️
@jacquigillespie8970
@jacquigillespie8970 20 дней назад
Hi, I enjoy watching your videos. The detail and lengths you go to is fantastic. I was sitting here and thinking how it's the young ones that go looking. It got me thinking that alot of young people are so mixed up with all the things that can get your mind going in all directions looking for the meaning of life. I just felt that that's what alot of young people are doing through different circumstances in life and tragedly alot loose their life but I pray that alot more find their way and meaning in life. Life is full of challenges for forever🙏🏻✨
@Case_
@Case_ 3 дня назад
"He did what many of us only dream of doing" Dying of hunger alone in the middle of nowhere? No, thanks. (Yeah, obviously I know what you meant, but still, one would think that if anything, his story would be a cautionary tale.)
@starofjustice1
@starofjustice1 День назад
It IS a cautionary tale.
@Case_
@Case_ День назад
@@starofjustice1 It clearly isn't for many.
@starofjustice1
@starofjustice1 23 часа назад
@@Case_ Humans are stupid in general, man.
@brkaz5864
@brkaz5864 3 месяца назад
Chris McCandless had a home life that was not all peaches and cream. In some way he was was running from those demons. Chris never advocated or encouraged anyone to follow in his footsteps, they were his alone. The somewhat glamorization of both the book and the movie was in many ways a fantasy. Those that chose to totally believe in that fantasy and follow in the footsteps of Chris McCandless did so on their own and their fates rest in their own hands. Glad Alaska removed Bus 142 in 2020.
@nickl5658
@nickl5658 3 месяца назад
If only he brought a map of the area with him and he would have discovered that there was gauging station just 1.5 mile away with a steel cable and basket setup that could have safely carried him across the river. This was the equivalent of college student starving to death in his room, because he did not know that there was a kitchen and stores of food down the corridor from him.
@ultrarnr4454
@ultrarnr4454 3 месяца назад
LOL!
@username-mk4qv
@username-mk4qv Месяц назад
Common sense tells us that when someone dies from their reckless behavior, we actively avoid following in their footsteps. It’s not a dead man’s fault that some people view his cautionary tale as an invitation. McCandless was reckless and stupid sure, but the only death he caused was his own. And if anything, the copycats are far more reckless and stupid than McCandless was.
@mannyg9059
@mannyg9059 Месяц назад
There is a story about a young university student in Central America who wanted to fight the government abuses in his country, so he saved until he could buy himself a military rifle and ammunition and food and he set off to find the guerillas in the mountains to join them; he got lost in the forest and did not find the guerrillas or his way back home His corpse was found three months later, he had starved to death. Like McCandless his dreams did not match his abilities. I wish I remembered the name of the book.
@furiousfucshiagoddess7616
@furiousfucshiagoddess7616 3 месяца назад
The Alaskan government's removal of bus 142 was a good move. People are curious and they would have continued to try to visit the site. Even without the draw from the McCandless story, people will still try to live out in the wild for the sake of adventure. Some will survive, some will die. People will do what people do.
@trailname_ziplock
@trailname_ziplock 3 месяца назад
So why not do some trail maintenance and establish a bridge over the river so people could safely do the "pilgrimage"
@wrosebrock
@wrosebrock 3 месяца назад
David Paulides will be sure to attribute it to aliens, bigfoot, or both
@NickyBlue99
@NickyBlue99 3 месяца назад
​@@wrosebrock Alien Bigfoot.
@lolobeans
@lolobeans 3 месяца назад
Sad that this was necessary but the right decision certainly. Since people can't always be trusted to make good decisions regarding their own safety...
@wrosebrock
@wrosebrock 3 месяца назад
@@NickyBlue99 😂😂
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