The Dark Side Of Mid-South: Grilling JR

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VIEWER/ LISTENER DISCLAIMER: Jim Ross and host Conrad Thompson discuss subjects that are disturbing and might be offensive to some audiences...listener discretion is advised.
On this episode of Grilling JR, the voice of wrestling, Jim Ross and host Conrad Thompson discuss JR's beginnings in professional wrestling and the cast of characters he worked with along the way. JR shares his stories of how he started in the business, what happened that allowed him to move up the ranks in MidSouth Wrestling so quickly, and some of the evils that lurked along his journey.
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@elijahn.grisham4017 Год назад

JR is one of those guys you just never get tired of listening to talk about anything. Its a dying art thanks to today’s technology. The guy just has the gift of gab. Love you JR

@michaelspencer2555 Год назад

Lol actually people are talking more now than ever. It's actually a new art.

@jamesrichardson3322 Год назад

My favorite quote from JR " This is a one legged man in a ass kicking contest" . JR is a legend in wrestling business, there is NO else business like him.

@coreythompsonTheOneandOnly Год назад

Now, that was a dumb ass question that Conrad Thompson asked and thats coming from one Thompson to another 😢"why would wrestling allow a culture like this to exist". That's not a serious question because the answer is too obvious. Evil exist, THE DEVIL 😈 IS REAL AND MONEY 🤑💰 💸💵 💷 MAKES THE WORLD 🌍 GO ROUND. There is your answer to the supposed mystery

@bigOne38 Год назад

12:09 when topic starts

@ruaidhrilb9209 11 месяцев назад

This is one of the greatest podcast episodes ever! “I kept that story..secret..until after dicky passed away..kept my word” “What a cast of characters here.” “HAHAHAHAHA” I’m cleaning my tool basement at 3:30am after 11 hours working on the railroad and this pod episode is making it enjoyable. Thx CT&JR

@WrestlingWithThe80s Год назад

I could sit and listen to JR tell stories about wrestling 24/7 365! So much knowledge and history.

@JasonL77 Год назад

As soon as Conrad mentioned “Bruiser” Bob Sweetan, I said to myself “Okay, here we go.” because I knew that that’s where this podcast would get very dark.

@John.Flower.Productions Год назад

FOR THE RECORD: JR & everyone's favorite wrestlers of that time were afraid of Bob Sweetan (a supposed real tough guy) and/or did not have an issue with sexually abusing children but *LARRY "THE AXE" HENNIG* would not have it and was afraid of no man. *LARRY HENNIG* came into the locker room as Sweetan was bragging to everyone about an underage girl, to which *LARRY* told him _"I have a daughter, so you better shut that shit up right now."_ Sweetan stopped talking but not for long. As soon as he said something else inappropriate, *HENNIG* walked straight over and viscously double poked Sweetan in the eyes; causing him to fall on the floor, screaming and crying. *"THE AXE"* then dragged him outside the building, returned for his bag/luggage and tossed it outside. Then, without saying a word, *LARRY HENNIG* came back inside the locker room and got ready for his match. That was the end of Bob Sweetan's run in that territory. (Roddy Piper told that story, when asked about the origin of the 'double eye poke' that he always did in the ring.)

@eugenegrace3130 Месяц назад

What a cool ass story! Thank you for that

@BigBull45 Год назад

Growing up in New Orleans, I discovered professional wrestling at the age of 8 years old in 1981. I watched Mid South Wrestling religiously every Saturday evening at 5 pm on WGNO TV 26 from 1981 until Bill Watts sold the company to Jim Crockett. I attended many weekly Monday night cards at the Municipal Auditorium. I also was in attendance at many of the quarterly Superdome Extravaganza cards. Hearing Jim tell these stories gave me great insight as to what things were like behind the scenes. Thanks to J.R. and Conrad for putting together this great content and taking us fans back in time. Looking forward to more Mid South stories for sure!

@koolpopjones6499 Год назад

Yes Sir. Grew up on Mid South too

@tommydarensbourg1188 Год назад

Awesome podcast. I’m a big wrestling fan since the early 1970s in Baton Rouge! I’m glad JR mentioned my city a few times, we had fantastic cards here!

@rickeywilliams5784 Год назад

Not only did I have Mid South, but also Memphis Wrestling then Georgia Championship Wrestling then WCW, in southern middle Tennessee just south of Nashville.

@BigBull45 Год назад

@@rickeywilliams5784 in New Orleans we got Mid South/Universal Wrestling Federation, Georgia Championship Wrestling/World Championship Wrestling/WCW, World Class Championship Wrestling out of Dallas Texas, AWA Championship Wrestling on ESPN and WWF Wrestling. In the early 80's before USA Network started broadcasting WWF regularly, they broadcasted Southwest Championship Wrestling out of San Antonio Texas. During the Summer when I would spend a few weeks at my aunt and uncle's house in Pensacola, Florida, I also got to watch Southeastern Championship Wrestling/Continental Championship Wrestling. I'm glad I got to experience the good ol territory days of wrestling.

@rickeywilliams5784 Год назад

I forgot about World Class

@deadish9613 Год назад

Being in south central Louisiana as a kid it was Mid-South, WCCW, and NWA. Eventually AWA popped up on ESPN and then cable hit and we could watch WWF. Jim Ross has been a staple in my wrasslin fandom since day one and will always be THE voice of wrasslin. I'd listen to that man read Ikea instructions all day and be a damn happy fan.

@lbradcpa1 Год назад

This was so good! Growing up in the Mid South territory, this was a GREAT behind the scenes look at the business and the humans that were there.

@buckmurdock2572 Год назад

It was incredible, wasn't it?

@ollieox1975 Год назад

I grew up in New England, so it was mostly WWWF or independents for live shows, were you able to travel to some matches ?

@lbradcpa1 Год назад

@@ollieox1975 Yes. My first live show in Shreveport, Louisiana was an arena event with Andre The Giant, Ernie Ladd, Skandar Ackbar and Dick Murdoch. I was amazed at how large Andre was...not tall, but WIDE, THICK, hands that seemed to be bigger than anything I had ever seen in my life. I remember there was an older lady who clearly took the effort to circle the ring with her walking cane who was working her way to Ackbar and security let her get 3/4 of the way around the ring before she was escorted back to her seat. Great times!

@lodi70005 Год назад

@@lbradcpa1 I wish I could have gotten to a Mid-South TV taping. I’m still laughing at Jim’s comment about rolling a joint while driving. Bill Watts smoked weed? I can’t see it.

@nateduggan3146 Год назад

Just about to start this, in my view the greatest wrestling promotion ever. Nothing can top the realistic feuds, the rough and tough wrestling, the stories, the interviews and the passion that i guarantee would even have a wrestling fan of today watching it.

@d.j.theend6150 Год назад

Mid-South and World Class Championship Wrestling where the best. Matter what anyone says. WWF wasn't the best in the 80's

@scottnoble5320 Год назад

I was born in the early 70s, so I started watching wrestling in the late 70s. Knew of some these guys, heard some of the stories. Was still lovin being a kid during the late 70s to early 90s. Didn't really start learning about the business, no not from the dirt sheets, until the mid to late 90s. I'm really glad JR felt better to talk about some of his experience. It's good to get things off your chest. And it's good for all of us to hear about how things used to be. The past is not to be feared. It's to enjoy and learn from. Thanks fellas

@n.harmonvilla7648 Год назад

Conrad, Jim, and the production team, thank you. You're amazing

@jackbarnes9728 Год назад

I remember Mid South when it would come through the town I grew up in Bastrop Louisiana. They put the ring up at the 50 yard line at the high school football field. If you bought tickets for ringside instead of bleacher seats they would hand you a metal folding chair when you handed in your ticket. After the show was over you had to bring the metal chair back to the gate on your way out. That was the early mid 80s.

@bryandeville322 Год назад

UWF came to the Rice arena in Crowley and I remember Ray Candy running to the ring it was like a snail running.

@eugenegrace3130 Месяц назад

Wow! That’s cool. Shout out to bastrop!

@emmajordan1989 Год назад

Damn that got dark but I'm so glad you talked so candidly about it. I love hearing your stories and experience

@OldSchoolRn Год назад

JR’s stock went up 100 fold!!! Ty Mr. Ross for an insider history lesson and insights. Your Honesty is refreshing

@countcrotchula44 Год назад

JR just puffin on a joint telling stories is amazing

@realdominochris Год назад

Massive massive shoutout to Houma, Louisiana.

@joehickman624 6 месяцев назад

Darkside of midsouth is the reason i clicked on this one. Very professional intro Conrad

@caringfamily8132 Год назад

7:10 JR is a national treasure. Few posses the knowledge and experience he has about the business. Positive stories have value - so do the bad, even terrible ones. Enjoy the stories, take what you will from them, hopefully growing in the process. Cheers!

@jktree1 Год назад

Jim was a high school ref at my Tahlequah Oklahoma football games. Always thought he was from Jay, Oklahoma, not Westville, so I learned something.

@appzkldtewrld Год назад

Pro wrestlers and comedians especially the older ones have almost a parallel type of childhood experience when you hear their stories.

@johndavis48076 Год назад

There is a podcast where Stone Cold and comic Bill Burr discuss the similarities.

@vestel777 4 месяца назад

This is the FIRST Full Episode I’ve ever watched. What a show. I’ve been watching Mid-South episodes since January when I got Covid. A friend of Mine told Me they had Full Episodes of Mid-South on RU-vid.

@DonSmith-fw5re Год назад

I grew up 30 miles east of Shreveport Louisiana so Mid-South / UWF Wrestling was a big part of my childhood. What JR said about the wrestlers being tough was true. I had a co-worker tell me he blind sided Paul Orndorff in a bar on the Bossier strip one night. He said" Don I hit him so hard that he went down but the funny thing was all the way down he never took his eyes off of me". I asked him what he did next and he said "I got the hell out of there that man was going to kill me"Lol!

@Paul-ob4ln Год назад

He has changed so much. Life has a way of doing that...

@MrBeavis84 Год назад

I can listen to these stories all day. I learned a lot.

@travelreview5962 11 месяцев назад

This is the best piece of wrestling history i have ever seen....its better than anything i could've imagined. JR is a national treasure and i wish i could shake his hand and tell him, his daughters, and Jan that the level of respect I have for JR is unrivaled.... and i say that as someone who has never watched a wrestling match. I have however bought the first two audiobooks and spent more hours than i can count listening to all the wisdom that comes out of this man and attempting, probably poorly, top retain everything I can.

@packpock4369 11 месяцев назад

I feel like this is definitely one of the most important shows. I love the territory stories, those days are gone. JR, Corny, Dutch, Arn and Flair these men are the only ones that can actually tell us of these days.

@NLaBar Год назад

Now THIS is a perfect Grilling JR topic. Can’t wait!

@splashgo8265 Год назад

From all of us here at Splashgo, you guys are awesome. Love your show! Never miss an episode

@grannysfamily8804 Год назад

I love it. Thanks Jr this could have been a book. I could listen all day.

@reganbowen8828 Год назад

This has been a very interesting podcast! JR has been around and worked all the legends of pro wrestling, some he even hired and gave them their first opportunity! Jim Ross, has seen and done it all for the BIZZ and deserves everyone's respect!! When opportunity knocks, be ready and open the door!

@shawnsmith9367 Год назад

When I first started watching wrestling it was first GCW on Saturday afternoon..then discovered the Tri State Championship wrestling on Saturday mornings. Jim Ross was commentating . My first wrestling event I attended was Tri State at the National Gard armory in Oklahoma City it was one their last shows before Oklahoma was part of Mid south...Snuka was their in a six man tag team and the main event was Ric Flair vs. Paul Jones..Good times..

@dalefromshelby8002 7 месяцев назад

Love how you segue the interview into the sponsor commercials, and JR chimes in on the commercials. This is my first time listening, love it, awesome show.

@jasonbryant.bassguitarplay3641 Год назад

Huge wrestling fan since around 1983. And fell into a social culture of older wrestling fans seems like all at once. The subjects, places, people and promotions that yall comment on is spot on!! And we as fans of yall can tell YALL ARE OFF THE TOP WITH THE CONVOS. ITS BITTERLY HONEST . TILL NEXT TIME FELLAS.

@Billybo-22 Год назад

The School of Pro Wrestling from territories to wwf….JR lived it!

@serg9366 Год назад

Im at 2 hrs and kind of sad its ending. I have adhd so two hours on one video of someone talking is extremely rare. Much love JR 🤘🏼 thank god for youtube man

@curtisburgdrof8618 Год назад

Old stories of wrestling is awesome

@travelreview5962 11 месяцев назад

Best episode of the podcast. Can't imagine any piece of content ever exceeding it. I honestly can not see a more important piece of wrestling content ever being peoduced... but I'm sure you'll find a way. Thank you Jim.

@FuriousAngerr Год назад

I’m 41 years old and haven’t watched wrestling since right before Sting went all The Crow. I was a massive wrestling before then. I love JR’s podcast. The more he talks about the 70’s through the mid 90’s the more captivating it gets. All these old school wrestling legends telling their unfiltered stories makes me feel like a kid again.

@jamesmcv Год назад

I don't know anyone that is familiar with him that doesn't like JR. Think I can honestly say that I've heard him in one form or fashion every year of my life since I was around 10 years old, starting with his commentary and interviews on Mid-South & Houston wrestling in 1982. Watching him periodically on TBS and then WWE. Now these podcasts are fantastic.

@ChrisBurcham Месяц назад

I grew up in the middle of mid south territory and actually knew a few of the wrestlers. Thanks for the memories JR!!!

@jasoncandanedo1034 Год назад

Great episode! JR is living history!

@dudeistmonkmatthew9550 Год назад

Hell, Jim; I respect you for being able to roll a doob while driving, and I'm a Deadhead, lol

@mattpeters6120 6 месяцев назад

Best grilling JR episode of all time. Awesome work guys.

@AT-zj2bp Год назад

50:20 J.R forgot to mention that Stilwell is the prank call capital of the world!

@HereBeRabbit Год назад

This episode definitely ranks up there with Prichard's Houston episode and Arn's My Spot episode as probably my 3 favorites...

@grantlhamilton Год назад

Great job on the podcast! Really enjoy learning about the history and business aspects of wrestling.

@acefromspace2727 Год назад

God bless JR and his family.

@egomaniac247 Год назад

The disclaimer at the start was really professional. Well done

@stewartmcrae8007 Год назад

Not really it was pathetic people are way too sensitive and easily offended compared to the era being discussed

@fayezfawzi3255 Год назад

@@stewartmcrae8007 yup. It is a bloody joke. Though again, it could be a covert advertisement. Anyone who listens to this intro will definitely have his curiosity intrigued.

@stewartmcrae8007 Год назад

@@fayezfawzi3255 could be although it is nothing we haven't heard before and the title of the video is very suggestive and obviously done for clickbait purposes

@at0micwerew0lf Год назад

Oh yeah…it’s great that we live in a time where anything that comes out of your mouth needs a “trigger warning” or a disclaimer. Do you polish boots with your tongue for fun?

@egomaniac247 Год назад

@@at0micwerew0lf depends on if I used the brown boot polish or the black. The black gives me gas

@falconesports1581 Год назад

This should be a slobber knocker no doubt about it

@c0uchsl0uch Год назад

I watched mid-South religiously Saturday night and again Sunday morning(rerun of Saturday night). Jim duggan, Ted dibiase, Steve Williams, Jake Roberts, JYD, Eddie Gilbert, Skandor Akbar and DEVeSTATION INC. ONE MAN GANG❗

@VHSXSHELL 11 месяцев назад

this is historic thanks for the stories keep them coming please as much as you can

@chriscarpenter1420 Год назад

When i was a child i used to get to help out with the Central States shows at the Municipal Auditorium in Topeka bc my Dad's friend was the GM of the building. From 1979-1987 i used to help set up and tear down the shows and i got to meet all the wrestlers and carry their bags and so on. I would have been in elementary school at the time. I have great memories and stories and autographs of all the wrestlers who passed through the territory during the 80's minus one; Bob Br9wn told me NEVER to talk to Bob Sweetan....not even to make eye contact. There was truly something menacing and dangerous about Bob Sweetan.

@chriscarpenter1420 Год назад

....but everybody else treated me great.

@bryandeville322 Год назад

I seen Sweetan down in one of the South Louisiana arenas Mid South went to and you can sense it 😳😳😳

@coreythompsonTheOneandOnly Год назад

Man this podcast is one of the best i have ever heard. Thank you everyone invilinget to learn about history and my favorite wrestlers from good ole Jr.

@anabanana7152 Год назад

You had me at JR getting into wrestling by watching roller derby and then wrestling was on right after...that was my childhood. I introduced my son to wrestling when he was 4 yo (24 years ago). My dad and I bonded over RD and wrestling & wrestling has always been a bond for my son and I. I truly enjoyed the show. I'm from the NE so these are not wrestlers I'm familiar with but what interesting stories and eye openers.

@jaylew889 Год назад

Lolol, thought I was slick using the positions on the clock to let my mom know where specific food is. Shoulda realized it's probably done globally

@ceeez7828 Год назад

The North American title is BY FAR my favorite belt....its a beauty and very classy...all my titles i made as a kid looked exactly that model...

@anthonyromeo4600 Год назад

I'm just getting into this episode, and I think it's going to be one of the best, I love you, Jr., and Conrad's. Keep this up. You have something special with this podcast, and I'd love to see more like this. Hearing the stories straight from the mouths that experienced the stories, priceless, keep up the good work, and love you too❤

@juliebennett2482 Год назад

I'm from Loranger! Someone asked Hacksaw Butch Reed what's the most dangerous town he'd ever been to. He replied there is a little town called Loranger LA. Them people take it seriously!! Met Sting there and saw Freebirds jump Iceman King Parsons!

@chrismcgill2288 Год назад

Best damn podcast JR has done. So real and honest. No BS not politically correct in today's age, but shit most of that stuff was 40-45 years ago. Way different time in our culture. Love the candid picture JR painted. Would love a part 2

@travelreview5962 11 месяцев назад

"Does your business target men 25-54?" Lol like saying "Does your business target the people with the money?" Or, "does your business target anything other than make-up and womens clothing?" 😅😅😅 love you guys!

@ruckanitepreacher5618 2 месяца назад

I live in South Arkansas close to El Dorado. My dad used to take me to see wrestling in Monroe,LA and Shreveport, little rock Arkansas and pine bluff AR. I remember Mr. Jim Ross and Mr Boyd (can't remember last name) in the 70s and early 80s. Loved his work and glad for his success in the business. Great memories.

@michaelwilliams7400 Год назад

Great interview! I've seen someone's card before. Killer Karl Kox was a member too and introduce Dick from what I've heard. Think of Karl's initials. Anyhow, love these stories!

@TravelatorH8r Год назад

I'm loving this we have to extract as much information out of Jr as we possibly can let's keep going back in time guys

@rgwebb5165 Год назад

Great podcast. Territory episodes are always fascinating. Mid South was one of the best in the late 70's and 80's. There are several episodes worth of stories JR can tell. I hope Conrad considers diving further into the territory.

@Doobiedan55 Год назад

I used to go to Lake Charles back in the day when you wouldn't dare say wrestling was fake or you could get stabbed or minimum a fight

@Doobiedan55 Год назад

Also referee Jerry usher beating grizzly smith. Luke brown and grizzly smith beating bob sweetan and bull ramos

@eddead4235 Год назад

This is episode 211 and jr has told the story of austin beating him up at smackdown 311 times

@brainhakker7133 Год назад

I know it's Fricken Awesome ain't it !!

@JasonL77 Год назад

On a much lighter note, “Hug Conrad” should be a t-shirt.

@The_Sage_of_Six_Paths Год назад

No complaining this week. Excellent episode this week, great approach by Connie

@landongarrison3522 Год назад

That was great. Wish there was more like this

@pelicanphuucker4life Год назад

Interesting that for an "unplanned" *OOOOOOOHHHH DAAAAAAAHHHHHHHRRRRRRK* episode CONNIE is with JR and not Casio Kid. But, props to JR for being a Sweet Guy and voicing his desire to build something long lasting for his children.

@thehighlander8407 Год назад

Wow. Great episode...honesty about the wrestling industry good and bad 👏

@nicholasrich1311 4 месяца назад

This is good stuff here! Been into wrestling for 50+ years now, Carolinas. Love JR! 😊 This takes me back!

@ryanharrison8412 Год назад

Maybe the best story teller EVER

@pelicanphuucker4life Год назад

That's definitely an Old Time work that's gone by the wayside but something that could absolutely come back and improve the business today and that is the referee being in there and helping call spots, especially for younger greener talents. Very interesting.

@DarkLordofTheSith69 Год назад

The audiobook of JR telling the Leroy and Dibiase story is insanely funny ..when Leroy drops the red hot cigar Ash in his crotch and starts smouldering and burning his balls..Good shit pal

@rwalkertrs1 Год назад

In the audio book that cigar story had me in tears. I listened to two of his audiobooks and it was the best. 😂😂😂

@joshcope9485 Год назад

I went to the AEW house rules show in Troy, OH and it was AMAZING! Great card, great action and great crowd. I still check out WWE programming but for my money, AEW is consistently putting out the better product.

@nbaldwin45 Год назад

Kudos on that introduction, Conrad, you did an excellent job.

@brainhakker7133 Год назад

I miss the world where it was unnecessary for the Piazza intro !

@nbaldwin45 Год назад

@@brainhakker7133 Yeah and actually this episode was a lot less shocking than that intro insinuated - but I guess Conrad has a wide viewership and he's erring on the side of caution.

@stephenjones1488 Год назад

@@brainhakker7133you'll get over it snowflake.

@packrat2473655 Год назад

I’ve lived in Tulsa for all my life , and you guys just hit the tip of the ice berg. I wanna hear about the rnr / express face cake on tv , uwf, … you guys got off track on the wrestlers. We never had the axe henning … I wanna hear about dr death … the Murdoch /dibiase/ flair match on tv.

@shaolin1derpalm Год назад

On the subject of fundamentals: I dance Salsa. I wasn't really taught good fundamentals and only saw fancy moves and thought that was important. Now that I know moves I wish I was taught fundamentals. I have basically restarted my journey because the basic stuff needs work, and takes 3 x longer. Fundamentals are the most important. I now get more compliments doing half the shit I used to. Just like wrestling, when you know how to spice up the basic movements, you will get maximum crowd enjoyment (your lady dance partner) doing the least amount of work possible.

@cherokeeoutlaw2.011 11 месяцев назад

love Jim as a wrestling fan for 40 years and an Oklahoma boy whose old man worked for leeroy back in the 70s as a ring boy and i'm an NSU alumni also love ya Jim

@twsstar Год назад

Thanks for the little tidbits of life advice , much appreciated

@DonSmith2323 11 месяцев назад

Ive been watching Jim Ross since i was 5 in 1984 when he was at MidSouth for the best year in wrestling history thankyou Sir for your contribution to the business you are by far the greatest Commentator in wrestling history.its close with you and Jesse Ventura lol jk not even remotely close

@robertgividen2968 11 месяцев назад

Mot much better than getting stoned and listening to old wrestling stories from an OG

@manifestgtr Год назад

I don’t think this is a particularly dark episode. Yes, there’s some darkness…yes, there are monsters. But there are also good guys, consummate professionals and life-changing mentors. It’s LIFE…this is what every person encounters along the way. I’ve encountered every personality mentioned here…from the horrible dungeon people who make the newspapers to the perennial righteous. It’s life…

@tylegend1986 Год назад

This is a masterclass❤ what a gem

@bryangayles41 Год назад

Magnum TA, started out in the Pacific Northwest in the early 80's as Terry Allen😊

@rockyruane9379 Год назад

Imagine this - Monday Night Raw is on with a PPV like card for free, Monday Night Nitro is on at the same time, a Monday night Football game with playoff implications is also on. You're in school, no job, no responsibilities. Life was so good. You wake up and before you know it you're in a living hell in 2023 and ask yourself......What happened?

@Millerwvu420 Год назад

This is the best episode I've heard of this show

@thomaswood7030 Год назад

Wow.it.took.1hour.and.45.min Before.it.got.dark😮😮😮😮

@deepblue8143 Год назад

Given Conrad's warning i thought this was going to be worse. These thinga are all horrific but its nothing we havent heard before. As bad as this stuff is, imagine what we didnt hear and what isn't being told. Scary thought.