The Dark Truth About Farum Azula 

Its finally happened. We really are at the point where we're using theoretical physics to explain Elden Ring lore

Another Theory that would explain how we land in Farum Azula is the following: Every Charcter that commits a cardinal sin gets taken to Farum Azula. When we commit the cardinal sin at the Forge of Giants we immediatly get taken to Farum Azula. ''Cardinal Sin'' can also means ''Death Sin'', which also links up with the death rune we find there. alexander could have also commited a cardinal sin on his way and thats why he ends up in farum azula.

Fun fact the mere scales of the dragon lord are capable of twisting time thus creating god killing weapons. So yeah placidusax probably has something to do with this time shenanigans.

The thing about Farouk Azula is how it seemingly messes with causality. In the floating city we can find death roots, something that shouldn’t exist until Prince Godywn is killed and buried Not only that but we can fight and kill Maliketh yet if we go back to the beast sanctuary we can meet with Gurranq

We cannot take what we see in this game as real. We are blinded by our grace, there even is a theory that states that the Erdtree itself is but a tree stump, the golden part being an illusion created by our vision of grace. Good video, I'm glad you're going back to making lore content :)

I think this is a brilliant theory! I would like to add that the mathematics of relativity suggest that at the centre of a black hole, where time dilation is at its strongest, a NEW instance of space-time opens up (almost like another universe). This is similar to the nature of the Placidusax arena, which is at the centre of the tornado and would explain why we expel the Frenzied Flame in said arena - because it is treated as an entirely different universe that the Outer Gods have no influence over (other than maybe Placidusax's Outer God, as he awaits their return). You will remember in Interstellar, *spoilers* that when Cooper enters the black hole, he enters a four dimensional space, where time is the fourth dimension. An explanation for the Gurranq/Maliketh duality could be that Gurranq is Maliketh within an instance of time (the present) and Maliketh is the culmination of Gurranq's will across time/his lifetime, being in a 4D space; as the embodiment of Marika's shadow and the vessel of Destined Death. This would explain why Gurranq - not Maliketh - seems to be atoning for losing a fragment of death (constantly hungering for deathroot), whereas Mailketh seems to be more controlled and less rabid; and that only Maliketh in Farum Azula seems to access Destined Death (i.e: Death becoming his "blade once more").

Besides gravity, time dilation is relevant at velocity too. Objects in space orbit each other around a point between them, the barrycenter.

“It’s more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly, timey whimey… stuff”

If you feed all the death root to Gurranq before encountering him in farum azula, he has a comment about it. Meaning that if it indeed is in a different timeline, the only way this could work is that it is in the future. You can also observe the giant cauldron and the beastmans mansion from certain spots in farum azula. The biggest nail in the coffin of the time travel theory for me however is the fact that the erdtree reacts instantly to the release of destined death. Since it happens in farum azula, if we were in fact in a different time , how come the effect is instant?

Bro. Honestly, one of your best videos. Well explained, well reasoned, logical argumentation, and enjoyably entertaining. This is why I subscribed :) the incorporation of Interstellar was the chef’s kiss.

My theory regarding gurranq/maliketh is that Maliketh is Marika's shadow, and it exists as a semi-distinct entity from Gurranq, the beastman who was chosen to house Maliketh within him. I believe this because when Ranni betrays the fingers she is attacked by the balefull shadow, which is suddenly a seperate entity from Blaidd, who is partially insane now almost as if hes had a thing that was part of his consciousness removed. Gurranq shows this madness and violence too when you give him enough deathroot, and with his many many years of experience he manages to calm himself down. Maybe had Blaidd been spared he couldve eventually controlled himself. Im torn as to why they go mad tho. It may be just the trauma of having this shadow spirit removed from them causing damage, or it may be that they are reverting to mere savage beasts after having the shadow of the two fingers removed from them. Maybe that is what made them both a cut above the random beastmen of faram azula we find.

What you're essentially explaining, is what in Star Trek: Generations was referred to as "The Nexus." The Nexus existed and traveled in regular time and space but within The Nexus, time had no meaning there and people could exist in both The Nexus and outside of it simultaneously. Strange concept but it makes sense scientifically.

Would love a video on all the "alter ego" characters and how/if they are connected. Radagon, gurrangq, D?, St Trina?

Great vid. Regarding 1:20, I do think the lack of Dragons and all 3 tornados is just a rendering thing, otherwise we should see Radahn in his arena from the open world.

Farum Azula is definitely connected geographically to Caelid at a ground level Not sure how it ended up in the sky but it’s definitely trapped in some sort of Time stasis

Farum Azula used to be on the ground. And was located just northwest of the Bestial Sanctum in Caelid. I noticed that the platform where the Cinquidae is located is at the same angle that the bridge in Farum Azula sits at. For some reason. FA was lifted out of the ground by the storm. And moved to the right of the map.

Fun fact; the GPS system takes account of both gravitational time dilation from general relativity and velocity differential time dilation from special relativity to keep everything synchronised

So my ☕️ 1. Gloam Eyed Queen is possibly a dragon, specifically the twin bird 2. I believe she was Placidusax’s “God” 3. Maliketh and Marika were originally high clergy members within the great tree order 4. They double crossed the order and couped them. 5. Placidusax rips farum into the sky, hides 6. Marika time locks the Farum in an evergoal with the rune of death and maliketh inside probably to hunt down Placidusax 7. ranni steals- night of the black knives- 8. Marika Shatters 9. Maliketh and all the beings in evergoals split. Almost like ghosts

I think that farm azula is the 2nd half of the leyndell capital that has been replaced by the Erdtree, because if you see in the map the leyndell capital seems to resemble a whole circle but its broken in between by the Erdtree. And i think that 2nd half of the broken city is Farm azula

Your point about Garank and time distortion make sense. If you can phase in and out of different time periods, maliketh can theoretically be in two places at once.

Never thought I’d hear „according to Einsteins theory of relativity“ in an Elden Ting lore video😂

Truly one of the places beyond all time

From a theoretical physics point the fact that the floating rocks are 1. Moving really slowly and 2. seem to be stable in the up-down direction would lead to a conclusion that the center of mass of the tornados would have to be quite high up. If the rocks were spinning at the level of the tornados center of mass they would need a second force to pull them up and their angular velocity (which leads to the square of their tangential speed) would be really really fast.

The tornado created a time paradox which means no matter what happens it will always loop out the same. And also the tornado like drags us into a different point in time it’s the same time. Same universe just in a different point in time that I believe the dragon Lord made to continue waiting Oh and I just realize something after a year or two fighting him beyond time makes our character immeasurable speed😂

"I doubt theyd just remove key information like this" bud is this your first souls game?

Fun fact if you complete Gurranqs quest line you get a different dialogue for the bosfight

Great video Jake! Having Hollow Knight music in the back was a cool touch😎

I really like the space-time angle but I not sure about the applicability of this level of physics to the game. Gravity magic is an established force already, and I think there's a swarm of floating rocks over the post-starfall opening to Nokron in Limgrave which stay suspended without the presence of a black hole tornado. On the other hand, Nokastella does translate as dark star, which is an old term for a black hole. Sometimes I think, the developers just do things because they look cool. Having to map out an actual scientific explanation for every sweet visual effect would be too onerous.

Dude has just explained how "Made In Heaven" works 💀

I was thinking: this music is familiar, when did it play in elden ring?? And then: it's hollow knight!! Fog canyon

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The Dragonlord Placidusax fight, is trip back in time prior the Farum crumbling... you look at it as the unwinding of time. This clearly the case since it's the boss fight that lets you unwind the Frenzied Flame.

Very cool But How about you make a lore video on why I suck so bad at this game?

My favourite area!

Something happened, we won’t ever know, but whatever it was caused time and space to break. It could be like that movie where these kids go in a cave and years pass every second they’re down there. I forget the name. But I personally believe it’s now a place that exists at all points in time. Potentially you could run into someone from the past and future if they happen to get in there. For some other reason the given person would return to their own time, with little or no time having passed.

While I understand not wanting to bring too much other Souls lore into the mix to avoid confusion, I think one can glean some interesting details details from comparing this to how dragons are portrayed in Dark Souls. In Dark Souls 1, dragons are regarded more as a force of nature - an element, if you will - rather than as "beings". They ruled a world in which there was no disparity, no life or death, no heat or cold, and, presumably, no time. They were made of stone. We see one awakening in the intro, iirc, and get the idea that these being don't move around much. Disparity was introduced into the world in order to defeat the dragons, which would have been impossible without it. Disparity came from the advent of fire and the power that it offered. Yet while said disparity was a blessing in the moment, it was a borrowed one, because with time comes decay, and eventually, the fire would fade and doom the world to an age of darkness and stagnation equal to the age of light and progress that Gwyn established. Disparity is a pendulum. Anyway, all of that is to say that it would be very typical Fromsoft lore to portray dragons as being that, to some degree exist beyond the normal rules that govern other beings. That Placidusax retreating to a safe haven beyond time is very much in line with how Fromsoft usually portrays dragons. It's very possible, that the kind of age Placidusax would want as an Elden Lord is one that stands perfectly still. One without disparity and movement of any kind.

If we go back in time, for a lot of the Expansion.

It’s in a dimension where time doesn’t flow which means we or nobody there will age …and you have to do the quest so he remembers you makes the fight makes more sense after he dies he gets a true death and no longer the god of death essentially

2:45 I wish more people would just like a comment that supports their opinion. At least in those cases where their comment doesn't add anything to the discourse. More importantly I am glad you decided to revisit this idea.

Gorra (ok so I don't know how to spell his name) still being alive inside the bestial sanctum after defeating maliketh but what about Alexander dying inside faram is he really still alive huh massive jar outside a coliseum maybe.....naw

Floating Archipelagos?

I believe that if you look from the Beastial Sanctum in Caelid at Farum you can actually see the other 3 tornados that aren't visible at Malenias Divine Tower Which would mean they really just don't load in at the tower because it's further away than the cliff there at Caelid But I have to check that again I also have to check how it looks like from the Fire Giant's Forge I'll return edit the comment and continue writing under here Ok so I was wrong Either they changed it with updates or I just imagined it? Fact is you can't see Farum from the edgiest edge there is in Caelid because of the rainstorm And you can't see it from the Giant's Forge either because it's too high and the clouds block the way when you look down (I also looked with the telescope) Another fact is that you can see Farum from Malenias Divine Tower (best at night tbh because the moon makes it more visible) and it in fact only has 1 tornado So I'm sorry

What doesnt make sense to me atleast is that theres dozens of dead beastmen graves around Farum Azula,which means time isnt or wasnt exactly nonexistant.It must also mean that at one point Farum Azula was somewhere else that was affected by time.Alot of people pointed out that the giant ruins around Limgrave might be from Farum Azula,which would also explain the beastman in that cave. Bigger question is how did Farum Azula end up in the sky,"beyond time" and who made that possible?

Lets goooo I like this idea alot!

Ignoring spahgetification, as you observe an object enter a black hole, you never see it disappear. (Maybe you see it get torn to shreds). The object (or it’s remains) would appear to sit on the event horizon, slowly fading away, red shifting forever. The light coming off of it would get less & less intense until it could only be seen in IR, microwaves, radio, etc For the observer, time would be at a standstill in the singularity for the observed, as if it were traveling at light-speed. For the object, the universe would pass around it at an infinite rate, such is how time appears to flow for someone stuck in time. Farum Azula isn’t quite this, but close enough for the purposes of the game. The parallels are clear. Destined Death was not only removed from order, but from time. Destiny being related to time, perhaps the idea was to make it not so destined?

Will we see Gransax in the Future this way?

How tf does Alexander get there??????

My personal theory is that farum azula used to be in the cloudy spot in the middle of the map, at the center of the divine towers. I think the powers of storm were used to destroy it and cast it out to the ocean. Nepheli mentions remaining at stormveil castle in case she needs to call upon the storm in her quest. There's tons of storm themed weapon art magic, maybe stormveil castle is named after a weapon built into the landscape, controlled by whoever is in control of the castle. Edit: The storm axe's effects are also very similar to the storm effects in the background of placidusax's fight. Dragon lightning is red but the bolts in the sky are yellow.

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Hey Jake, can't you see Placidusax's corpse within a cliff face in Farum Azula?

Beyond Time means, well Beyond Time. It is a timeless state, no time dilation required. There is no "time" there, things can still move or not move it is entirely dependent on the state they were in when they entered the timeless state. It's not the same as if time were to stop or be slowed down. You cannot apply temporal logic to a timeless state, all things would be happening at once.

Citing interstellar in an Elden Ring video. This is this content I watch for.

6:38 if the floating rocks truly were held in an orbit, they would be in constant motion about the central storm tornado, like the planets and our Sun. Without angular momentum being conserved via orbital motion, the rocks would fall directly towards the center storm. Something else must be at play to keep them there.

Hollow Knight music in the background ❤️

Thanks for pushing the lore forward Edit: I’ve always thought the lands between itself was a reflection of Marikas psychology. This is pretty insubstantial but works to explain a lot of inconsistencies

Man I would love a theory about the Bestial Sanctum and the Farum Great Bridge How they are related to the Crumbling Farum Azula we know Why is the bridge called Farum Great Bridge if it doesn't lead to Farum? Why is the Bestial Sanctum in Caelid with Maliketh and architecture like the one we see in Crumbling Farum? Was Farum on the ground before? So many theories!

great video

Yo this is off topic but like last vid me commented if the normal enemies can respawn when u don’t release the rune of death. And even if u realize it they still respawn. But when bosses die they will never respawn soo yea

what if it is just a place marika herself created to be a place for malekith to stay, since he has the rune of death, he is away from the elden ring/ throne and the mainland. I don’t know why there would be draconic tree setiniels, or the beasts, possibly children of malekith or something along the lines.

I'm actually playing through farum azula right now and to support the time distortion theory. How half of the beast men are alive but the ones closer to the tornado are undead?? Interesting right

Hi Jake I have a theory for you, how can I contact you to talk about the details of the theory

Farum Azula is Goated

I don't think you need look further than Bloodborne to understand the nature of Farum Azula.

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Second best area in the game

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Interesting theory my dude. Mabye this is akin to the last giant and giant lord from ds2. Dragon lord plas is dead, imdended in faram azula stone, but alive although heavely injured in the tornado. Like last giant who we kill as giant lord in past via memeorys. He even has two boss Souls. One as Giant Lord and one as Last gaint. The means of timey wimy stuff may differ, but this is annoyingly da ja vu

Beast clergyman in caelid is maliketh from the future who lost to us ..lost all destined death...and now feeds on deathroot to regain the parts of it... how he got there is up for speculation but it can be explained by the gap in time between when we wake up in capital of ash and when we kill maliketh Now 2 questions How does he remember us when we meet him in caelid And 2ndly how is he still alive Well both have less than satisfactory explanations Since time dilation is the principle we are working on when we meet beast clergyman in caelid...he is future maliketh... who has no idea he has met us before.. but the lands between is now simultaneously at the state where erdtree will be burnt at anytime...since we are meeting him at both places the time we encounter maliketh and the time we meet him in caelid are occuring at the same time if it makes sense which rejogs his memory and..also sends his past self memories from the future ..this is why he attacks us in one of our encounters.... The 2nd one is how is he still alive Is due to placidusax...technically taken as cannon....is we fight placi after maliketh...it can be other way round but for hypothesising lets take the normal route Which reverses time giving maliketh time to escape his death. .but finding out that the sequence of events even after having destined death with him has changed because farum is the only place affected by the time shenanigans of placi...so maliketh lives...

Planets orbit the sun because they move if we were still we wouldnbe pulled into the sun

HOLLOW KNIGHT OST!!!!!!!!!!

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Can someone tell me if I’m doing good I just bought elden ring I know I’m late but a year ago I was terrible at video games and now I’m pretty good so I bought elden ring I’m 20 hours in I’ve completed stormveil and completed raya lucaria and defeated starscourge radhan and I’m 20 hours in and about to fight draconian tree sentinel can someone tell me if I’m doing good for how long I have played

i didnt sacrifice melina :)

My issue with Farum Azula is that it feels like it was added after the game was already finished. It lacks ties with the rest of the world. How did Alexander and Bernahl went there?

Kewl

Honestly Souls fans always get hung up on the dullest parts of the lore.

people should stop smoking crack before playing elden ring

Unpopular opinion I wish this place was lost in time forever because it sucks there😂

Your sass about the comments wasn't necessary.