The Dark Truth Behind Droid Sentience 

Roger roger meatbags

Your gendered speech is triggering me. Get woke it’s almost 2020

Nvm I’m just a bored troll :(

this is why there is NO AI in 40k. never ends well.

Speaking of giving droids too much power. why not design a version of the tactical droid's programming within the body of a Starfighter for coordinating squadron's of droid fighters. You could go the extra step and allow it to share it's computational resources with other droids in its squadron to bolster the units effectiveness.

"This must be the worst job in the Droid army" Gets locked in cage "Awwww"

I'm torn on one hand I do want smart robots who could maybe help us evolved. But on the other hand like some of the smartest people in history I fear that they would be the end of us.

^ It all depends on who’s side they’re on and what they use their knowledge for

He just kept cleaning

😂

Cyber Flame and one is morally wrong

Matthew Dominguez you mean both

Clone War? More like *Slave War*

Cyber Flame yep The Prequels are yet again brilliant

Cyber Flame from a certain point of view

This droid was a genius. A pessimistic genius.

😂

Shadow Sans he could see the plot

DroidLivesMatter

Droid 2 is another Droid overqualified for their job

BWS2K true

Well done

Nice...

@Gaius Wyrden It's true. I haven't watched all of that series (I think I left off around... something in Felucia, circa season 4?) but I don't remember anyone palling around with brand new clones, only ones that had survived battle long enough to gain a reputation/personality - though they definitely had those distinctions among themselves and towards each other. I think... Yoda probably appreciated their individuality, based on that one tank episode. And maybe Plo Koon because we see him rescuing some when they're in those space pods... so yeah, clones are probably a step up from droids but I don't think it was a *huge* step. And that being said, the commanders also seemed to generally appreciate droids a bit more too, as I remember. Hmm. Good point, for sure.

@Gaius Wyrden For a every Anakin Skywalker like jedi that cared for their clones. There are 10 or 100 Pong Krell that doesn't care for there clones.

Hello there!

@@senagashen2101 general kenobi

General Kenobi You are a bold one

Us*

Roger roger

Step two: profit

*The dark truth of jar jar binks* The dark truth about my ass The dark truth about order 66 Damn your right

step two: DROIDS GO INTO BUSINESS FOR THEMSELVES!

Alternatively: What Yoda FEARED and HATED about Gungans

You forgot about "So Disturbing"

I guess it's the one thing in Star Wars that never felt right. You watch all these stormtroopers mowed down and you are supposed to regard them like those droids. But those are human beings under that armor.

Poor droids. Drop an Roger in the chat

Theres 3 of us and one of him It wont matter

@@undercoversmonk5712 roger

@@freshcomic2006 roger roger

So I can see you suffer for my amusement.

Great Simpson episode

@Gaius Wyrden some did, and those were the Baron battle droids that established their own rule.

vitor kennedy it made me cry as a kid ;-;

@Gaius Wyrden I mean, same thing with human revolutions. People walking to certain death for a cause they believe in.

This has no business being funny

@@dfalsetta4673 but it is

“I used to put them together as a child but nowadays all i do is take them apart” Abiwon seaawimmer

What IG is supposed to represent, but self concern is actually attributed to their loyal nature in actuality. Their subservience is to the objective growth within their power and capability. Why IG is basically telling Mando, "i want the credit" because he needs to take on more jobs because his nature ultimately breaks down the fruit of his labors being worth a lot less, due to the "matinence" of his being, IGs have the subtleties of the repo man, but nature of an assassin, they are thugs, not rogues. When a robot fuels his own "desires" they are desires that are filled at a differing measure of morality, and purpose, if you are property and not person, you just, fuel up, and your conversations will probably be pretty related to self promotion and or reward, and or objective actions that can be taken to reach such things.

Boston Dynamics: hold my solder iron

U meat bags

Safer_7 but then we wouldn’t have HK-47

@@professionalantichristhate528 HK47: "Statement: You seem rather intelligent for a meatbag"

**Cries in stars and stripes**

*distressed freedom noises*

*sweats tea nervously*

Feels bad man.

Ain’t that the truth, mate. Although the bloody bludgers up in Canberra don’t seem to give a shit.

İt is just better to remaind natural when practicing Force. Both sides are assholes, one way or another.

You can see this in the KotOR-games. In the first T3-M4 is a brand new astromech and as such has pretty much no personality and is mostly just there to pick locks and slice computers if you play as a class with few skill points. In the second game after spending a few years without a wipe he develops a much more independent personality and some actual agency. (Still useful as a lockpicker, mine defuser and slicer if you're not a sentinel / watchman / assassin though.)

This reminds me of how humans work HMMMM

Yup! Which explains why R2-D2 has such an Attitude from A New Hope through to The Rise of Skywalker...he's been wandering around for at least 70 years (we don't know how long it had been between his last Wipe and his appearance on the Royal Starship during the Escape from the Naboo Blockade in The Phantom Menace) without a Memory Wipe by that point... Feisty little tin can too...he was always one of my favorite characters... That reminds me of a Joke: Why is R2-D2 the most Vulgar Character in the movies? Because they Bleeped out every word he said... 😄😁😆😅😂🤣

I agree. Good observation and elementary deduction.

Sorry this is prolly dumb but can someone explain this to me ?

Also even more debatable.

@@maxfelson9467 Senate sentience can be similar to droid sentience. It can also mean that they have found a way to use politics to keep them in power, as a career, to override the rest of the government by blocking, impeaching, to get away with not paying taxes, to become above the laws, to take over a nation, to get away with crimes, to start a civil war, to have power over the press, etcetera. Hope it helps.

@@shorelockhomes943 wait so it's like an ai ? Also thx for responding

Funny

But does he know that he knows nothing?

JACCO20082012 yes

Wubbalubbadubdubbb

Rick and Morty Reference lol

"Welcome to the Club"

Abrahdolf linclor

Ryaquaza 1 b1 is a true classic

Sad Statement : B1 droids are like slow relatives, tolerated but not well liked.

@@nicholsjoshua15 i am glad they had a big part to play in the clone wars series

The B1s have so much charm to them, especially in the Clone Wars R2’s battalion is still one of my favorites to this day

Yes. Yes they did. Roger Roger!

I am machine I never sleep I keep my eyes, wide, open. I am machine apart of me until, I fix, what's, broken. Here's to being human...

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa still making jokes

Half machine

I dont want to be human! I wanna see x-rays, I wanna see gamma-rays! I wanna... I wanna smell Dark Matter!

Kacumoto .Kacu Can you see the absurdity of what I am? I can't even express these things properly, because I have to conceptualize complex ideas in this stupid, limiting spoken language! But I know I want to reach out with something other than these prehensile paws, and feel the solar wind of a supernova flowing over me...

Hmm yes, enslaved Jango Fett vs Hmm yes, enslaved Clanka's

All controlled by one man who's plan has failed yet still carried out by the new order 🤭🤭

That was the whole genius of what palpatine was doing. He generated two sides of a conflict and then created a conflict between them all so that in the end he could kill the Jedi. It was a massive galaxy wide plan that came to its fruition with the death of the Jedi. Palpatine was evil, but a genius!

At the end of the clone wars and the dawn of the empire, Anakin Skywalker was reconstructed into Darth Vader: Part-Man, Part-Machine, Full-Slave.

If it's a Machine I wouldn't call it a slave. Slaves are living beings born not manufactured. After all a car is not a slave.

I don't think he believed that, he was just trying to ingratiate himself.

​@@Mark73 Obi-Wan to Anakin about R2-D2 : "It's only a droid." It's an established fact that Obi-Wan is racist towards Droids.

I would buy an HK-47 model, and let the awesome shenanigans begin!

@@nicholsjoshua15 even better if you let them roast any meatbag they see.

There is one in the lore. Mister Bones

*wipes memory* Not anymore.

Time for a memory wipe

*”ROGER ROGER”* *”ROGER ROGER”* *”ROGER ROGER”*

Potato Potato *ROGER ROGER*

That’s how you get the matrix

All thanks to HK47 and Malak 🤣

@@annieareyouokay1411 I need a series dedicated to the exploits of HK 47

Or furless soft meats

I am a huge sci fi nerd and even I make that mistake more often than not

A lot of Sci-Fi uses the term "sentient" in stead of "sapient". They also use "race" in stead of "species", mostly due to fantasy influence.

Good point

It’s pretty important. I am sure that many animals are plenty sentinent, but sapience is much rarer.

Well yeah, but I would say most battle droids, at least, are only sentient. They have limited self awareness, after all, unless they are left without their regular maintenance.

I wouldn't give them an A

What a meat bag thing to say 😡

@@redflame300 you're goddamn right.

I would keep some B1s for company, maybe also a limited security as well but mostly as company and servants.

Yup! They KNEW the Droids were Sentient and were still content to treat them like bothersome appliances that can talk back...

@@HappilyHomicidalHooligan Oy vey! That is HORRIFYING!...Maybe The Galaxy deserves the Sith, the Empire, the Yuzhong Vhong and everything else it gets, heh heh. Or at least to get Noah's Arked and only save the people who DON'T go out of their way to be creeps.

Aside from programming, I think he also truly believes in the CIS cause. And to a point, he's right. The Republic did becone corrupt and tyrannical. The seppies wanted to get away from that and understood enough, and stayed loyal.

And also from his point view, the Empire is technically the Republic with just a new name only.

True, that can solve so much....but what if they can't report back to the person?

Arno Wisp maybe they can call the owner, idk

Imagine being a reclusive droid programmer, just typing away on your 35 key keyboard, sippin' some cafe and thinking about the latest process when you get 248,716,48 calls from droids that figured out that the protocols didn't quite line up. or they show up at your door with further questions. Could be the call to adventure.

Honestly, that sounds like an extremely inefficient method

Assassination requires more independent thinking than marching forward and shooting.

Draconicus the Reaper same it was awesome

It kind of sounds like Darth Vader.

Am I the only one who thinks it sounded like Morgan Freeman: "It was at that moment I realized, the Republic fucked up."

As far as the New Hope scene, I always thought it was because Droids were seen as servants and/or workers and almost slaves. In various eras irl, these sights were considered rude in pubic for various reasons

Oh? Multiple series with close to 100 hours of runtime delve into the smaller details of the universe more than a handful of films? You don't say....

@@cenciende9401 I've sneezed out movies with more attention to detail than the sequel trilogy...

That New Hope scene was because, at that point, the Clone Wars was still very fresh in the minds of the adult population. Many people were displaced by the war, lost their homes or family to the Separatist Droid army (like Din Djarin) and resented droids for that reason. It was, in essence, blanket racism. Like anti-German sentiment in France after WW2. The anti-Japanese sentiment in the US after the War in the Pacific. And the anti-Islam sentiment after 9/11. The clones died off when they reached 50, the droids lived forever as a lasting reminder of a long, brutal, galaxy spanning conflict.

@@realburglazofficial2613 You do realize that this Droid had no nervous system, sense of touch, and as about as smart as a deluxe toaster and they were applying hot steam to it's metal feet, right? It was done as a sight gag and I doubt they put that much thought into it.

😉

Tony Stark: "pEAce IN oUR TiME!" Ultron: "Nooo nooo, this is terrible"

Too expensive for the CIS and their planned tactics of zerg rush.

That's basically what the BX Commando Droids were.

Too expensive

@@SelfProclaimedEmperor those zerg rushes would work in the clone wars if there was no plot armor for the main characters.

So... Terminators?

Bite my shiny metal ass.

The 2019 edition is "Greedo said Maclunkey first"

Maclunkey

Maclunkey

I mean, it's not even a debate. Depending on which version you consider canon, either couls be true, since different editions of the movie show either.

In the version I got I remember Han got shot first but he moves slightly left, which is cooler cause that means Han is Freaking FAST.

Delighted: Oh Master, you do know how to treat me

Ok

*"He was magnificent.."* Talking about HK-47's killing prowess. (also paraphrasing 501st journal from Star Wars Battlefront 2 classic..)

Huh, it's almost like, the jedi could be seen as evil.

this is why anikin joining the dark side actualy did bring balance to the force

@Kevin Warburton I was referencing the Anakin quote.

THIS is what the last trilogy should have been about - not the garbage that actually hit movie screens.

@@nickh5081 Um... okay.....

Nobody ever bothered to actually name the SW galaxy for 40 years! Kinda sad and revolting.

@@IronMan-tk8uc Why would anyone? Who cares? It's the galaxy Star Wars takes place in. Sometimes a simple name is the best.

@@renkol123 I think it's less about not caring. I think it's more that they don't want to set a name, because otherwise it break the immersion.

So is earth... Proposal: Earth should be called The War Planet.

HK01 would be a fine addition to our (bionicle) collection

Say that to his face meatbag!

The best meatbag is a dead meatbag

He was the first of the Toa

Both take place in strange universes, what’re the chances it’s the same one?

Lightsabers cool tho 🤷🏻‍♂️ you right though. It was inevitable for them to get wiped out

I wouldn't consider the jedi to be the true scumbags in the war. They did have their flaws, but they didn't want to have control of an army in a war and be in conflict. The sith were worse in the fact that they had a total disregard for other's lives and would do anything to gain power. Ultimately I think that both sides are deeply flawed, but I'd prefer the jedi to the sith.

@Kat Murphy I wouldn't really say that there are pitfalls to the extremes, at least not with the light side. Jedi..ism(?) is basically a philosophy, and a pretty good one at that, and the only real problem with it is that the Jedi, especially the council, think they're sages and that breeds the exact sort of arrogance they think they've risen above, and their apparent mastery means that whatever they think is right about the creed, is right. I actually admin a Stoicism group on Facebook and can confirm that people like that are a dime a dozen, especially when it comes to misapplying detachment theories and ending up like Ki Adi Mundi to the point where Geetsly's video about him actually reminded me of some people in my group. In a precarious position like that, the institutionalization of the Jedi order within the Republic was basically the last nail in the coffin. Counter-intuitively, you can't put moral philosophers (which the Jedi kind of were, among other things) in positions of power. It corrupts the latter and does nothing to make the former better, and turns Virtue Ethics into a perverted utilitarianism, like you see with the Jedi doing... Everything they do Anyways, I've rambled long enough. TLDR, the light side is great but the Jedi seem to have done literally everything they could to not actually be a part of it, though that's just my opinion. Come to think of it, I wonder if Lucas ever intended that they be an allegory for the Church.

Praise the omnissiah

I will remember this.

Senaga Shen I was thinking the same exact thing, I just got done playing Detroit become human, half and hour ago lol 😂

Leo Lozano great game

Welcome to once of the fundamentals off the cyberpunk genre. :P

Or Animatrix

Roger roger

I mean, I literally have no idea what you’re talking about. So you’re good.

IdleWorker Star Wars Knights Of The Old Republic 2. Your told that there is a mob boss of serious reputation that has some interest in your journey, and *he* supposedly gives you a droid to keep an eye on you. What you can later find revealed is that through (I think it’s a persuasion check?) you find out that the droid itself is Goto. That I think it was just a simple AI that funneled countless credits into itself and built a small crime empire. It’s been a long time since then, but it was pretty interesting to know. Not that I took G0-T0 anywhere lol

Zequintiny you gotta get influence with Goto and go through a number of things on Nar Shadda to find out. You can actually play a light side character you just have to accept a little dark side dip by demanding credits from him.

you should really play kotor 2, its full of stuff like that

Torture her? I'm giving her a flu shot. Do you think I'm a monster? Good day to you sir, good day to you!

@@nicholsjoshua15 Droid: "Yeah... I really don't feel like doing anything right now..." Luke: "Uncle Owen! This droid has a bad motivator!"

Well said, Fett.

Your Disney's plus show sucks!!

Nuce

That line is a running gag in the rifftrax for attack of the clones and now I'm using it all the time ⏲️ 😅

Roger, roger.

Roger,roger.

Roger, roger. If this keeps we will soon have a whole droid army.

Roger, Roger

Roger, Roger

Charles Saunders I love these droids too

Because their makers weren't competent enough to build a limited AI. They took a base sentience, pruned and repurposed it for whatever task they needed, and ran it through a copier.

@@miketheskepticalone6285 Not really, droids developing sentience is an emergent phenomenon i.e. you can't stop it from being possible. Even the best coding and most thought out restrictions can't stop it from happening at all, droid minds become self-aware over time and with that comes a greater potential for contradictions with said programming or even completely disregarding their protocols or orders.

I fucking love that scene 🤭🤭

Thats why memory wipes exist.

Memory wipes, restriction bolts, [intentionally] limited programming and understanding.

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