I don’t even know why you guys think that when she says “men” or “man” she’s talking about the average joe. She isn’t. She’s talking about the type of guy she’s attracted to, disregarding the existence of other men. That would be fine if she mentioned that before doing the video, but I guess that would defeat the whole purpose of it, since she wouldn’t be able to make the absurd points she made.
@@leo_625her friend explicitly said those are the numbers for an average man. he must not really know any average guys. but she probably made this up for views since everyone knows the dynamic.
@@StarsDie88 Women have a 1000 matches a month, and they still manage to choose the wrong men and make it hard on themselves. They make poor choices and create their own drama and disasters.
I saw a video where a woman tried to be a man on a dating app, I think she tried to help her guy friend out or something and made a profile with his photos, after a short time of having to use the app as a man she was literally crying. CRYING. It was so horrible of an experience dealing with so little matches, so little attention, and having to try to communicate with women was miserable.
Correction - saltwater with a few fresh water bottles bobbing up and down, but they never grab these since either 1) they have to swim through too much saltwater to get to the fresh water (good men get buried under bad matches) or 2) they ignore the fresh water and are waiting for the pina coladas (women forgoing decent men who aren’t as shiny for the top shiny men)
There is a split. The 90/10 rule ( used to be 80/20 ). 10% of men get matched by 90% of women. So yes if the guy is part of that 10% he matches with a lot girls. If he is part of the other 90% then he is only matched by very few girls.
@@peterkottke2570 It's worse than that statistically. The number of women who swipe on men first is 4.5%-5%. A man on a dating app would need to be in the top 5% to get anywhere close to that many matches a day. The best men usually get 3-5 matches per day while the worst women get around 15-20. Women will easily 5x the best men on dating apps in terms of matches. That's why I believe the whole story in the video is totally made up.
when you think about it, it makes sense. dating apps are entirely novel to the human mind and as such entirely novel phenomenon occur. modern technology hijacks circuits in the brain that evolved in a particular environment. dating apps reduce a human being down to cultivated images and statistics.
Of my entire experience with dating apps, ONLY ONE TIME I could match with someone real, and the 100s of other times, they were SW, cam girls, etc. I gave up on those apps because they are an unnecessary headache and waste of time.
Emily King recently reacted to a girl that pretended to be a boy on a dating app, and on day 3 she admitted that she started hating women and being more depressed than ever. Posing as a "6", not even the 2's and 3's were liking her profile. Not to mention the other stuff like dry responses, ghosting, no matches for days, onlyfans, bots etc.
I got off dating apps because it felt like I was in high school and junior high all over again. The constant rejection was depressing. I have learned that being alone is OK.
@thorgoogolhammer7943 being capable of being alone and being okay with that is a strong place to start, really. And it is attractive to women. The right girl at the eight time will come. Assuming you are a believer, pray God is preparing her and loving her before you meet. Hope she is doing the same for you
I think one impediment to people meeting each other in real life as opposed to online is people simply not knowing which places to go to. There is much talk about bars and clubs, but these aren’t really a lot of people’s go to places. And gyms, malls, parks, etc are not really viewed as social places anymore so we are left with fewer options.
Theres a huge trend of both men and women joining hobby clubs for that reason. I ditched dating apps because every time I go on vacation Im not looking or trying I get hit on a lot by complete accident. So now Im getting out to coffee shops and hobby clubs to let it happen by accident the way it does on vacation.
Like Courtney I work from home since before the pandemic; literally gym, tennis club, shopping centre, the park are the only places I frequent. The odds are not in my favour.
Spent 7 years on dating apps. Went on at least one date with 5 people total. At 29 last year in May I had finally had enough and quit cold turkey. Haven’t looked back nor cared to date still 16 months later
I will tell you something from experience, not to bring you back in. As an experiment, I wore a suit for my main pic. I got matches but, most women asked me for money. I then switched my pic to something fly, showed trips to Vegas, DR, and Cali, and had 10-20 matches a week. My point is, app or not, be the fun guy with personality. I don’t know you but, you seem hyper organized, always on time and well put together. Add a little douchbag to yourself and watch things get better. Your not a bad looking guy but, to women you may seem to save and boring. Hope some of this helps.
Possible video idea for the future. I'd love to see a video where you/other women try dating apps over the course of a week or so as an average to slightly above average guy to see their reactions. Also curious on the viewpoint on race in the dating market
There are statistics out there regarding race on dating apps. White men and Asian women usually come out on top. The Asian women are usually more petite, fit, and demure compared to white women. They get slight advantages even as a minority population in the western world. Black women do the worst by far. Even black men don't prefer them over other races. Do a quick internet search. It should come up easily.
@@CourtneyRyan I would totally watch this, seeing you (and/or some guest women) creating profiles as men, and seeing first hand how it goes. On one hand, it would be VERY telling and definitive (you'd have to create as an average guy, not a chad 10 though), but... on the other hand, it might play with people's feelings, so thats something to consider. That aside, love the work you're doing to show both genders a better, healthier way to approach dating and relationships. Youve given me a LOT to consider over the last couple of months. Keep at it! Youre doing good work! :)
We don’t need cousin Courtney to do this though. We all know what is going to happen and why things are the way they are. Unless you’re extremely good looking and over 6’1 you’re going to struggle on dating apps. Women only match with the top 5-10 percent, going after the same guys. This in turn will turn those top percent men into ef boys because they know they have options. They will date the women and clap her cheeks while dangling a LTR in front of her face and waste her good years and time, before he dumps her and on to the next. Those same women will then get on TikTok and cry about how there are no good men out there.
I have deleted all my dating apps. They were destroying my mental health. I've never felt so undesired or unwanted in my life and I was abandoned by my mother. I've never felt such suicidal self loathing in my entire life.
Good for you! Being abandoned by your mother says nothing about you, and everything about her. My heart hurts for you, I cannot begin to imagine how that felt. Almost everything on the Internet is detrimental to humans. I wish you all the best.
@@dgwaters 6'3 and six figures and in great shape. I have 'almost' as much attention from the opposite sex as a very average woman does. The playing fields are not level at all.
I was on dating apps for almost 10 years, and I even paid for coaches, professional profile help, and hired photographers to take my best photos. But no matter what I did, I wasn’t getting anywhere. Most of the time, I'd either get ghosted after one message or only matched with women who didn’t seem interested or were overweight. When I’d talk to my female friends or family about it, they'd just stare at me like they couldn’t believe how hard it is for regular guys on these apps.
Same here, did the main dating apps years ago and only one coach, pretty much arrived at the conclusion that since I wasn't affluent and didn't have my own place I was pretty much undatable. I've been told that you have to get out there, keep an open mind, etc. but the constant crickets or the rare one-and-only dates get old and only get me more jaded...so unless I bump into a women at the gas station or CVS, I'm done.
Just deleted my dating apps, and i feel much better already. Never got a respond even if i matched, which happened like 6 times in two years. These dating apps just drained my self esteem.
Guys if you're still using dating apps, DELETE THEM! A total waste of time and energy! Wanna know what's funny...?? A "dating coach" I used to subscribe to and worked with basically made me looked stupid by belitting me because I stopped using them. Then she goes telling her viewers that none of her friends use them, or even her for that matter! She basically told me I was a lost cause and I ended up telling her we aren't moving forward. I went out to the wild, met someone, and I'm pretty happy!
@@5rc having too many options to me is unfulfilling and a waste of time. Plus, who the hell has time to be dealing with all the pizzazz of these apps? It's too much and too extra
I spent 6 years on dating apps. I tried many things like changing my photos and description, coming up with different opening lines, tried to be engaging during conversations, be more or less responsive, paid for premium stuff (whatever it means in each app), and got 5 in person dates that went nowhere. I consider myself average and I think this is also the average experience for most men. It was a waste of time and money, and it took a huge toll on my psychological wellness.
I get tons of matches very quickly. All you need to do is workout and be in great physical shape since it shows that you have genes worth passing on. Then they also want you to show on there that you are competent so to have a good job title since money is a tool they use to see how much skill you have as a provider. Then have some cool hobbies, like I have pictures of me mountain biking since I compete and do Ironmans while also traveling and doing other sports. Then sprinkle a tiny bit of humor in your profile and you will get all the matches possible.
Your comment on men staying jn there own lane and using dating apps because of wome saying how they want to be left alone in real life I think is 100% spot on. I know that's the case with me and a lot of my friends.
@sweettacular9899 I mostly agree with what you are saying. My only disagreement is that it is the fault of both men and women. Both are guilty of letting bad men get away with being bad for so long (thinking of direct cases like Harvey Weinstein). And also, women using any disagreement towards them as an excuse to accuse a man of being like Harvey when he is innocent and then men backing her up (for whatever reason). So I think it's okay to say it's the fault of both men and women.
Yeah I'm I couldn't care less if I get "humiliated" after approaching someone in real life because like. Oh no she doesn't want anything to do with me but that's okay because I'm probably never gonna see her again anyway. Doesn't make any difference to me But I wouldn't want to make other people uncomfortable and it's confusing because I used to want to get left alone at all costs - I didn't approach you because I didn't want to talk to you kind of thing. But now I'm more open to it but I remember from before and I wouldn't want to make a girl feel like I did
This has to be age dependent, right? Even with age, I'm not entirely sold. I'm 44 and live in a University town that is very liberal. I use dating apps primarily because I work from home, I'm with my kid a lot, and I'm sober (which eliminates many places people meet here). However, I have met women in person. My age and much younger. No one has ever been mean or acted offended at being approached. I really don't think most of you have any idea how to talk to or handle women, nor judge the scenario right. First rule - Be realistic and don't try to outpunt your coverage. Second rule - Don't blindly approach her. If she has any interest, she will have checked you out already and you'll notice. Her eyes will make the first move. If she sees right through you or never looks in your direction, you didn't catch her eye and there's no point. Most women are not these cold bitches that want to humiliate you in front of everyone like all the lonely mean here make it seem. It's just perpetuating the minority that's seen on social media. It's a copout.
@@Swearengen1980 There's some truth to what they say though. Mainly because girls are fickle and can change their minds at a drop of a hat. I'm not blaming them though, because they're slaves to their hormones just like we are. But their hormones are a lot more unstable so they can like a guy and send him signals but then 30 minutes later for some reason lose all attraction towards him. So of course they reject him but the guy is left bewildered as to what had actually happened. Hence "mixed signals" which may actually be considered as pre-nut clarity (as opposed to post-nut clarity that we get).
Alright, it's really rough for men on dating apps, but you are 100% doing a lot of things wrong, and I don't mean your appearances or other things out of your control.
1:45 That woman is either lying or her friend is a Chad. I did a Chad profile experiment. It's really is night and day the response I got. More engagement in a week, than I got in 5 years. I would message women that ignored me in my old profile, but were thirsting over my Chad pics with the exact same profile.
I get tons of matches very quickly. All you need to do is workout and be in great physical shape since it shows that you have genes worth passing on. Then they also want you to show on there that you are competent so to have a good job title since money is a tool they use to see how much skill you have as a provider. Then have some cool hobbies, like I have pictures of me mountain biking since I compete and do Ironmans while also traveling and doing other sports. Then sprinkle a tiny bit of humor in your profile and you will get all the matches possible
@@eon001 not at all actually and the bar to be in the top 10% of guys has never been lower. I am just a very strong advocate for self improvement in all areas of life. I am not ok with guys complaining about their lack of dating success because it is no different from women not taking responsibility for their actions. If dating apps are not working for you as a man you need to evaluate if you are even worth being with and if the harsh answer is no then you should work on becoming somebody of value and that is desired in the marketplace.
Men having 30 matches per day? That is absolute final fantasy! Most don’t even have 7 matches ok?? Now if you look like Adonis then!! You shall get 30 matches per day. I think the best strategy is to do cold approach and have dating apps but please don’t rely on them at all. I do cold approach and thank God i haven’t had any negative experiences.
I've been single for 5 years, and in those five years, I only got three matches. If or when I do go on any dating app I always let a female friend handle my bio and photos, claiming it will bring me success. Dating apps just don't work.
lol so you also had a female friend in your life who thought the problem was your profile and not just dating apps suck for most men. I had someone who thought I was gonna get matches like crazy after they changed my photos and bio. Guess what? Crickets..
I realized one of my problems with dating apps is that if I stop initiating a conversation every day, the women just stop talking to me. That’s exhausting and just feels like chasing.
We also swipe right on everyone because we value our time enough to not waste time on reading bios as the likelihood of a like is so low we just swipe.
Im 44. I remember a world before social media. Just watch any of those high school or college videos from the 80s or early 90s. You'll notice a big difference in the people. Generally they seem more care free, happy, engaging, willing to converse with anyone. There weren't devices to distract us, so society in general found entertainment in interacting with strangers. Social media has ironically made people less social, more closed off. Everyone seems to be walking through life like NPC's plugged into the matrix. Women, even slightly below average in looks, DO NOT want to be approached unless you're in the top 10%. A girl could be a 5 and still get attention from 8's and 9's on dating apps. I don't even bother. Its not worth it.
There's a simple, and factual explanation for the woman in this video: "her male friend is a Chad" (aka top 5% man). I say factual because tinder released the statistics that 100% of women only choose the same 5% of attractive men (the Chads). Now here's the dirty secret most people don't know: many of those 5% Chads always attempt a match with EVERY woman! Some would even set a phone up that auto-swipes on every woman. Then when Chad matches, at that point he looks at the profile Pic and decides to ghost or not. Then a lot of Chads then say "let's Netflix and chill". If a girl doesn't want to, he moves on to the next match. The numbers game (assuming this is a very attractive guy) is that he will always have a girl to hook up with. Ones that give consistent intimacy stay on the roster until they want commitment and the cycle continues. For the REST of the 95% of guys out there, you will NEVER get a match, or it will be once every couple of months. For the 95% of guys, dating apps just crush your self-esteem. It's best to NEVER be on them period. Leave the dating apps to the Chads. Let the Chads destroy these women. Maybe overtime they too will bail on the dating apps and we can all get back to old school dating.
You would think an app that makes its users want to stay by driving them insane would have more class action lawsuits. You’re not the only one. They sent me down a very dark path.
You know what really shot my self esteem? I used an app with a tab that showed all the girls I sent a request to. Seeing girls who I knew were not up to my level all declining me lol. I never went back to that tab again. People might ask why even send a request if they're below my physical standards. Well I've met women in person who become way more attractive with a good personality. I realize how rare that is, but I'm willing to take a chance. But getting declined by even unattractive girls is definitely a shot to self esteem.
@@mickeypopa My fault for having reasonable expectations? I know I'm not going to be pulling 8's and above bro. I'm average on a good day. But anyway I don't use those apps anymore, so doesn't matter.
@@deepg7084 Having realistic expectations is fine buddy, just don't blow smoke up 2s' and 3s' asses just because you're desperate to get some. Rather pay a pro and get it out of your system.
With dating apps, there are substantially more men than women. This means women are getting more likes and matches than men. This equates to being overwhelmed. The crux of it is women are getting too many matches and men are getting too few to no matches. There needs to be a healthy middle ground. To be honest, if apps set a limit on the amount of matches you can have, that would be a game changer. Lets be honest, if you have more than 3 consistent conversations going, you're going to feel overwhelmed.
Limiting matches is worse for the dating apps. The women who get limited matches don't feel as validated. If they don't get matched with the small percentage of Chads, they feel worse too. No dating app is going to spend the time and money to curate a limited matching process to make women happy. This just increases the invisibility of the men who are not curated. If women are not happy, there are even fewer women as compared to men. The people willing to curate such a list already exist. They are called matchmakers. They charge outrageous fees. This weeds out the men too poor or ugly to get matched. However, it brings in all the money hungry women looking for a certain lifestyle man with at least above average looks. That's one reason Tinder attempted a $500 subscription tier. The profile pictures filtered for looks while the checkmark would show potential woman matching that this man had enough disposable income to waste it on an elite monthly fee. Even if Tinder got that fee for one month only, it would have paid for years of a regular subscription. Vetting potential matches for a one time payment vs. really curating a man's net worth is why it failed for Tinder, especially as that site is seen as a hook up site more than a true dating site. The checkmark was nothing more than male peacocking for a short-term gain.
Limiting matches will drive away women users, which is already a huge problem for the apps. Hinge is starting to roll out limiting people to 8 conversations where the other person is waiting on them to reply (not 8 conversations total). Guess it's a step in the right direction?
They need to make the apps to where you have to respond to each and every person who likes you or else your account gets locked till you do. This will force women to at least acknowledge each like instead of massively ignoring them and only picking the hottest dudes
@@BrianWaller-qe7gr Any woman who earnestly does this will be spending every waking moment replying to likes (or messages too). Anyone with great computer skills will spam the hottest women hoping they agree to message back out of sheer annoyance. In reality, there will be no women on this type of site because none will sign up for such a horrific process when other competitors have better, but more biased, processes against men and for women in their sites already. See reality for what it is. Start investing in popcorn for yourself, boxed wine, and pet product companies. Women would rather see the downfall of society than agree to date men not in the top tier of social media celebrity status.
For an experiment a year ago or so I had my sister set up a Bumble profile for me just to see if it made a difference. SPOILER...it didn't 😂I live in Phoenix AZ. I'm 6'1, relatively normal looking. I bought the unlimited swipes thing and even set my distance to over 100 miles and just kept swiping right until I ran out of people to swipe on. Over the course of a week, 7 whole days I had to have swiped on 1,000+ women. Not even a single match back.
The last time i used an app (over 8 years ago btw), i wouldn't even look at the screen -- just had my thumb constantly swiping right until i ran out of swipes. Then later i would see what kind of matches i would get, and evaluate if it made sense to pursue. It never did. App deleted
I've seriously considered downloading a dating app, but after spending eight years on a dating website with really no responses I decided not to. I just have to accept the fact that there are no single women out there.
Courtney the reason a lot of people won't admit that they didn't like the person and then ghost is still amplied and made MUCH easier with the anonymity of dating apps/internet life. If they were forced to see each other again, say at work, school, or social events, they'd have to, or be more inclined to at least be like "Hey I'm just not into you, i had fun but sorry." People ghost because they can, and it just makes it easier.
I'm a solid 8 man . I get maybe 8 to 10 matches peer month in a good month . From those matches I have to eliminate fake profiles that tinder probably create as a way to keep me hook with hope , I also have to eliminate fake profiles that are trying to scam me by trying to make me trade personal information and last but not least I get ghosted by most of matches for no reason most of the time . Online dating for men SUCKS big time .
Courtney, I think men have it hard in dating apps. I was getting one match every 2 weeks. Matching don’t mean much because sometimes the women don’t reply. But I did meet my girlfriend on match. I set up the date where we both met at a restaurant but we drove our own cars
As a man in the lower group, I can match with women pretty regular but that's only if I get rid of most of my minimal standards. If I stick to my guns and hold up my standards, I might match with one girl every couple of months but on average they wint message back. I also do not pay for dating apps.
Finally a brother! 😅 This has been exactly my experience too. I would see I had a ton of likes but frustratingly no matches. Then, I started lowering my standards, and all these matches happened. On Photofeeler, most of my pictures are in the mid-5s in "attractive" but top 5-10% in "smart" and top 20% or so on "trustworthy." Can I guess you have something similar going on?
Broken culture, lack of compromise, lack of communication skills, inability to build relationships, no fortitude, chronic loss of trust, artificially created isolation, one-sided focus, etc.
I tried online dating for four years. Four different apps; four other websites. The only women interested in matching with me were con artists, cat fish, and call girls. I NEVER had a girl meet up for a date with me from online dating.
The only straight male friend I know who got 30 matches a week was someone who swiped right on every woman and he lived in a city where the gender ratio favored men. Most men get one match a week or less. As far as ghosting, I would say half of people I know ghosted even if you met them in-person. There is very little accountability for anyone nowadays with dating.
When I indulge my somewhat conspiracy-minded side, I find it suspicious that approaching women in public became such a terrible thing around the same time that meeting online became a big business.
I'm a woman & I've pondered this a ton over the last couple yrs. Marketing 101: manufacture a problem so you can then sell ppl the solution. Making men feel socially anxious & fearful is an easy way to keep men hooked on the apps because they think it's the only way. Same way it works for dating podcasts/ coaches to tell men "you're not enough because you don't tick off these boxes... buy my course!" Women don't get bots whereas men do. Why? Because the bots are a validation carrot to reel men back into swiping again. Hookup culture is big business... for dating apps because it keeps men in a state of sexual limbo & away from relationships. Relationships would mean a loss of active profiles. App companies profitability rating is calculated mostly by active profiles, daily site interactions & downloads so online dating doesn't even need women. It just needs men swiping away chasing that hit of temporary validation. Social media is the same way by incentivising posting for "likes". Women have already been dropping off the apps in recent yrs because they don't work. If men everywhere were to do the same? That billion dollar industry would fall as fast as it rose up. They can't have that.
Coffee meets bagel is more of a business dating app. For busy business people. It tends to attract a certain kind of woman, which is often what men don't want. But if you're looking for a business partner, then it could be a good app for you!
Courtney I think you should use an average male friend's pictures (with his consent ofcourse), make a profile for him and manage his account for a week. Some woman on tiktok did the experiment and she had to quit after 3 days because she got very depressed by the experience.
A guy may get 3 matches for every 50 right swipes. However, meeting people in person is harder than ever. Many venues are now taboo. No more seeking romantic interests at work or the gyms. The clubs are the worst places to look for someone.
The average experience for men on these dating apps is that they get matches, maybe they will get the date set, but then get stood up or the girl cancels the date and gives the guy some absurd excuse the majority of the time. It's either this or they get matched with a girl they are seemingly attracted to and get ghosted as if the girl changed her mind about the guy or simply can't be bothered and just wanted the instant gratification of being desired. It is indeed completely unfair that the apps are designed to force men to pay to even SEE profiles of women that would fit their preference and vice versa. Instead of the apps actually helping people get together and form a long lasting relationship, it just simply preys on the wallet of men (good men or those with self-serving intentions).
I spend about 2 months on dating apps after a pretty bad breakup with a good friend of mine. I felt so much pressure to find someone new, because I constantly had to see my ex, because we share the same friends. Swiping and getting very few matches just made things 10x worse, and honestly I am not a bad looking guy. At some point I got sick of it, removed the apps and invested my time in my mental health and learning how to flirt and approach women in an authentic way (not like a stupid pickup artist playing mindgames). Going out and meeting women is now sooooooo much more fun than it used to be! I have always been an anxious mess when talking to women, but in just 1 or 2 months of teaching myself how it works and respecting myself things 100% turned around. Got my first date in a couple days as well, just by talking to her, having fun, suggesting a date and asking for her number in that order.
About approaching women, I always assume that a woman doesn't want to be approached because assuming she doesn't if she does just means a missed connection. Assuming she does when she doesn't means problems and nobody wants problems. I don't want to make a woman uncomfortable. I certainly don't want her recording me and blasting me online and making me out to be something I am not. So I don't approach women and frankly don't bother. Is it good? No. I am probably going to die alone. But better that than get attacked online or something.
Never downloaded a dating app, never will. If you want something serious, get out of your home and meet someone in person. People are a lot less picky when they’re not in front of a screen.
@@pace1195 parks and outdoor events (with the exception of concerts), local mom and pop restaurants, volunteering events, church, and mutual friends. You wanna go to places where you might have common interests with someone.
@@jaymz5267 Not where you SHOULD go, but where YOU go. Women don't go to restaurants by themselves to meet men unless that man is a member of the staff. I don't know where you go to church, but mine has no young, single women. Others I know say the same thing. There are statistics to show the fact the church women are just as bad as the secular women regarding body count and divorce statistics. Men have few friends statistically, especially with ones who know single women. Fewer men have stable families, especially with male influences. Finally, no one is looking for a date at my local Walk for Alzheimer's event which took place a couple weeks ago.
lol normie cope! Why do you think the girls rejecting you on the apps won’t reject you in other places? This logic doesn’t make sense. It’s like you copers deny SMV!
My experience was getting 20 to 30 matches total and I got married to one of those matches and we divorced before our 5th year anniversary and that was 6 years ago. So it was like 15 or so years ago. Back then it was better for men and it was miserable back then. So yes men should avoid dating apps.
issue with dating apps now, is us men have to pay for it just to be noticed. Tinder was more enjoyable to use back in 2016, 2017. Now dating apps shove these subscriptions down our throats telling us "buying this, will get you more likes etc." which just kills the purpose of using these apps. Plus the algorithm is rigged 24 hours after you create an account as they stop pushing your profile, with yhe sole purpose of hoping you buy it.
I mean, i dont think im the worst lookin guy. Dating apps beat me down to the point. It was just more beneficial for my mental health to just drop all the apps and just focus on myself. They've goofed up both men and women. Honestly, im just not gonna play this game anymore.
I’ve been on tinder since like 2015, I’ve literally never matched with anyone. I’d say i’m very average looking. I don’t think am the most hideous guy ever. I’ve had friends help me make my profile, some female input as well, and still never had a single match. Literally once or twice I got someone trying to push their only fans page, that’s it.
I’ve never met a single person 70+ that has ever been into video games enough to meet a significant other, let alone a date. Playing occasionally with your grandchildren to connect with them in person is not being into video games enough to make a social match with other people not family related. That alone makes me question the validity of the rest of the chart, plus there is no section for meeting by churches as many [nuclear family] people would do.
A lot of what women say men experience in the dating world/world in general, is actually what women experience, and its all projection. Once you notice this, its SO obvious.
Dating apps only work if you live in an area where people use them. Large cities, metro areas, or smaller countries. Huge portions of US, these are useless. Mid to small sized US towns are not using these as dating options.
I think most women are waiting for Mr. Right to break into their house and sweep them off their feet, because they never leave the house. How will you ever meet anyone if you're not on a dating app and never leave the house? I see these videos of hot women talking about how they can't get a date or find a good guy, and I have zero sympathy for that.
My take on dating apps is that, it’s superficial, it’s a selfish endeavour, and it removes the ‘element of destiny’. This means that instead of the cliche meeting story through a dating app that feels artificial, we have a boy meets girl moment that may’ve happened accidentally in life, for example: The age-old classic ‘Boy bumps into girl in the hallway, she drops her books, he helps pick her books up, they have an obvious sexual tension moment’ and the rest is history. Thats a much better story than meeting on a dating app.
Yeah SOOOOO many options. I’m just rolling in options on there when I use them. 😬for sure I definitely don’t get 20 the first day then zero for the rest of eternity
I've had really good luck with dating apps. Maybe it's because of: - my age - the fact that I put a lot of work into writing my profile, which is truthful - the fact that I'm authentic - I don't play games and I show my true self from the very beginning - I'm selective about who I contact (sometimes someone contacts me first, maybe 15% of the time) - I'm generally a good date - I listen, I laugh, I put my dates at ease (if they're capable of relaxing) I did a quick count of the women I remembered dating (one time or more) in the last three years and it's been more than 25 (I could probably remember more if I put my mind to it). I had multiple dates with 12 of the women, and of the 25+, I only met one in the "real world."
There's a reason for your success! You are (as Rollo Tomassi would put it) an emotional tampon over video chat for these women. The vast majority of men, especially ones younger than you, want an in-person long-term relationship with a woman! They don't want a conversation over brunch brought to you by [insert video chat brand name here]. You are the epitome of digital friend zoning.
Moral of the story: get off dating apps period. Most of the people on there are either looking for hookups, attention, or are scammers/catfishes. What this guy is telling her is a bit flawed, but I fell for the people who are looking for real relationships and end up encountering weirdos & flakes on these apps.
I used to subscribe to a "dating coach" and she kept trying to push me to use dating apps. When I kept telling her it doesn't work for me, she blatantly ridiculed me for it. I then fired her and unsubbed. I tell anyone if they watch her channel, do it at their risk
Wow yes so true , number 1 you have limited swiping. 2. Even if you swiped all right, you won't get a lot of matches, 3. Then if you match you still can get ghosted, 4. once you get to meet them, you realize you should be more careful when swiping lol. At the end, all people have similar interest (traveling, food, active, outdoors...) until you actually get to meet them., liking in person, having similar goals, those are things difficult to find and match.
A lot of women use dating apps for validation and nothing more. A lot of men realize this and stop using dating apps. I find it easier to meet women when I'm just going about my life.
I met my wife on an online forum in 2003. It wasn't a dating site as such. It was a community for Australians, New Zealanders and South Africans living in the United Kingdom. After chatting and exchanging contact details we finally agreed to meet up after a few months. Here we are 21 years later. We were almost embarrassed to admit how we met back in those days. As if only losers met online back then. Contrast that to these days!
I basically stopped using the apps, on occasion I'll swipe a little out of boredom, but I still get the email notifications. It's kinda hilarious. Every 6 months or so it's "You're getting noticed! 1 person has viewed your profile!" Like... ONE person has VIEWED my profile in 6 months. I get one, maybe two "likes" per year. I don't bother paying $40 to find out who it is. It's an international scammer most likely anyway. When I was more active, I'd get maybe one legit match per year. Generally Chinese girls who need a way to stay in the country...
I’m a married dad and haven’t dated in a long time, 15 years. I think social media is something that guys didn’t have back in my day. I can see how instagram would be a difficult thing for the current generation. I think it exacerbates the fantasy men may have for their ideal mate. And it may just bring out all the superficial aspects and less focus on personality, compatibility, and friendship. Basically, I think there are more distractions and obstacles for people to connect.
Dating apps work if you use them right. Just swiping wont work unless you're Ryan Goesling. I'm 41, 100lbs overweight, make kinda okayish money. I got 2-3 matches a week. I went on 8 first dates in June (When I started to try) and July (When I started to get serious with a couple of them and stopped talking to new girls) Always comment something on one of their pictures or prompts (Hinge works best for this) and make it specific to her, don't say you like her eyes or she's attractive. Review your profile, do you sound fun? Are your pics good? Have a sister or girl friend review.
the best way to meet women is join a group like a church, a dancing club, a tennis club or something, one with women in it, and then the women in that group will be way friendlier to you and your way more likely to find a wife, this was how our parents met decades ago, we were not online and we had our communities to meet people
Courtney, you exposed the realism of dating apps. Dating fatigue is real. I have completely gotten off them for good. Men just don't find anyone who wants to respond, wether it be because they've been on the app for some time, or they are super picky. When I am out in the community, I watch for attractive traits that a woman does. Kindness, charisma, etc. The way she carries herself as well. Those are qualities that decide wether to approach or not. You can tell by a womans body language if she's approachable or not. It does get harder, the more mature you are. As a 50 plus man, even the available women in my age group, have their own home, are settled, and kind of set in their ways. So that lessens the prospects quite a bit.
I saw something recently on this topic, but I agreed when someone said that people today aren’t really dating people, they’re dating avatars of success that they can show off to other people.
Serious question: I have a lot of very friendly single women neighbors. To the extent where I am very certain they are interested. I’ve even gone out on platonic dates with a few. But I’m AFRAID to make any moves for two reasons. 1. The proximity if something goes sour sucks. One woman even broke her lease to move out early just to get away from me because she was so hurt that I didn’t want to date her romantically . In that case, I sincerely did only desire friendship. But for the ones I’m more attracted to, it could get awkward for both of us if we actually do try and it doesn’t work out. 2. It just _feels_ like I’m narrowing my dating pool so dramatically to the extent that the context may lead me to settle for just the one I choose in my building. I know this is limited information but what would y’all do? Is dating a neighbor too risky? Too convenient? I’m paralyzed.
@@AR7271 I totally am. 😅 That’s kind of the point I think. But I’m still leaning on not dating a neighbor because when I got out in the real world, suddenly it’s real hot and sexy. 🥵😏🙃
I suspect matches that occur through some kind of club or other community involvement result in significantly stronger relationships. The reason is they give you insight to a person being who he/she really is. Dating is not an ideal way to "get to know" someone because there’s always some element of formality and stuffiness that limits both parties’ ability to expose their true selves. Dating someone you already know through other means allows you to get around that limitation and dig deeper.
A guy CAN get 30 matches a day... if he swipes right as fast as possible on literally every single profile for an hour straight. Of course, 20 of those are going to be fake accounts and bots, 5 will just not respond, 4 might respond but goes nowhere, and 1 *might* actually make it to the point of agreeing to meet but then an 80% chance of just ghosting the meeting. The remaining 20% chance is still no promise it will turn into anything. And all of this is assuming the guy has literally NO standards.
I'm a 6'5 bodybuilder making 200k+ with a strong Scandinavian look and might get 1 or 2 matches a week on bumble. Still get 'hi' as an opener followed by more one word responses. Impossible.
That's why I got off dating apps. Most of the photos were edited and not 'real.' I had to get my sister to help gut check some of the profiles because she knew all the photo 'tricks' the ladies use to deceive lol.
The dating apps. are basically a newer version of Hot or Not from a men's perspective. It's all about smashing and not about meeting "the one". The apps. are definitely a train wreck. Yes it is possible to meet someone special but it is NOT the average interaction. Women go after ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY 8/9/10's and that's it. So the pool for these guys is IMMENSE but for the rest of the men it's almost empty. Many women get flooded with options so only the ones they find are the top do they bother with. THIS is what the hookup culture is, the apps. fuel it.
Dating apps for a man like me. 4 months - zero dates. I lost count at 200 scammers, they texted me, all kinds of scams - mostly bitcoin. One cop trying to set me up for a sting. Ghosted her after she asked for money. Bots, catfish. I believe there was one real human out there and we missed each other. FB is a problem too, but there are a few real people there. 4 FB scammers this week. Real people in other states. That's dating apps for most men. Thanks for the good work you do here.
As a man who gets his match limit reached in a day or 2 on any app, its disgusting. Looking at 40 women who might as well be AI generations or figments of my imagination just waiting for an invite to come over made me feel like a prostitute. And the first girl is actually right. If a man has 40 women literally in his pocket, why wouod he pick you? Of course he will ghost and find another. Its ruined relationships on every level and now as a tall handsome man with money, im grossed out by most women because guess where i have seen them before? And how many other inboxes were they in? Lol
@9:30 "So, I can also see why they might be hesitant to approach women. I think most men out there don't want to contribute to making most women feel uncomfortable, so _they end up just staying in their lane_ ." Hey, World People..People of the world, she did not use the phrase, "staying in their lane," properly.
