Durban’s sea level but if you mean going from altitude week before to hot week after, yeah. Either way, couldn’t agree more, incredible Irish team - been top drawer for years now and deserved winners on Saturday. Don’t often see the Bok pack get knocked around like they did in the first half.
@@MrLukeyhym don’t know if I’m buying any of those excuses. Durban is wet and sticky. Humid heat. Pretoria much drier and cooler in the evening. Yes it’s at high altitude, but the gust play in the URC now, so are used to it!
Since 2016 Ireland and South Africa have played against each other with Ireland winning five of the eight games played. Ireland have won 4 of the last 5 games. I think the dominance of Southern Hemisphere Rugby is being challenged more today than every before and I think that's a great thing for sport.
@@jeffsteyn7174 management team, players, pundits, youtubers, fans. We got arrogant because we back to back, 4 time world champions. Compare our arrogance from 2019, if any at that time, to now. If you dont see it, you never will.
@@joshbernard4656 not you for sure. You hell as know nothing about protecting rucks and mauls for the scrum half. Faf was left there to do it himself. You are the joke
Ireland were outstanding yesterday in spite of Karl Dickson. Frawley had ice in the veins after his Euro Final disaster of drop goal misses. This after the Irish players have been on the go since start of July last year
It's nice to go on about how the Irish have been going since July 2023 hey? If you win, you can say "in spite of fatigue" and if you lose you can say "due to fatigue". The Bok players have been playing all this time as well but wouldn't dream of using fatigue as an excuse. Coz really that's all it is - An excuse. Credit to Ireland for being tough as nails. A well-earned victory indeed. Happy they won. It hurt the Boks and the improvement from here on out will be better than if they had won the series 2-0.
@@LB_die_Kaapie exactly. The commentators were laying it on thick in the pre-game already. Can Ireland - who are at the end of a 13month nonstop season - cause an upset?" Blah blah blah. Prepping back-up excuses prior to kickoff already... Just in case. 🙄
No need to be so "excitable" for want of a better word. I think people are saying the players must be exhausted and therefore a terrific performance. SA players have probably had the same season and must be tired too. For us, travelling to SA at the end of a long tiring season is really a tough tour. No matter what we do in the gym and at training, the Boks are a bigger more physical team than us. We are really punching above our weight when we play you, so it's even harder when it's at the end of a really tough season (and this has been the longest season ever - until next season!!!). It's tough for us to play you in November in Ireland but much harder again in July in SA. A great test series and I think anyone can agree we did exceptionally well to come back in the 2nd match.
The rivalry is legitamitly AWESOME! The URC has become a really competitive tournament where any of the top 5-6 teams could win it. We at Leinster won it 4 years in a row and the competition had vecome stale. But now Stormers won it in there first year of the competition. Munster have won it and now the Scots have become a real force with Glasgow winning this year. Its been a great revelation. Irish and South African players are really getting to know one another and the rivalry is building and building through competitive URC games.
28 degrees in Ireland is a catastrophe leading to drought, dehydration and skin cancer. The average summer temperature in Ireland is around 18 degrees (with rain!). So NOT ideal for us! So to play so well in that heat is something else!! Look for another excuse!
@@user-jt7tg3sp7s You will never hear WORLD CHAMPIONS complain about losing. As I started off well done to Ireland. , 4 x times world champions 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
@@revenomoodley9344 So well done, but not really because we weren't at our best? That's not really a genuine comment is it? That's complaining about losing without directly stating it! Who are you trying to fool? It's really sour grapes. Ireland B beat you in the 2nd test. Did you factor that into your thinking? Of course not! Go ahead and remind us again about the amount of World Cups SA won. Remember rugby is only Ireland's 4th favourite sport. Our upward curve will continue and we will be right in the mix for the next WC
@@the3rdtruth211 @the3rdtruth211 Your trying to bait me into an argument after your the 1 who started being salty. I honestly meant well done to Ireland and as Springbok fan I highlighted some issues we need to work on. Its YOUR salty comment which prompted my response. FYI South African people have rugby in our DNA so let it be your 4th best sport, it will remain our bread and butter.
In my opinion if Marx is out bring in van der merwe. If sous is out RG to start on 5 Bring Louw in on the bench or even BJD. Ewan Roos on 8 to start, kwagga closer SFM at 10 to start with Grant at 9. Those 2 were stand out players this pass weekend and i believe they earned their spot as starters in 9 and 10. DDA need to take a holiday and we need to bring in Hooker. If Damian Willemse is ready to play start 15 with SFM at 10.
The problem is that there are certain players that are too comfortable in their position. I love Faf and Pollard but they were off the mark in both tests. Why are we ignoring Sacha as an option at 10?
@@JacoLuuspollard kicked his goals @ 100%, but his positional and tactical game was utterly shocking, along with Faf, they totally weakened the back line
Nice that it keeps a slight question mark over who's the best in the world ;) even though it slightly edges to the boks because of RWC success. Love the developing rivalry
As an Irish fan, SA are the worlds number one, world cup holders, enough said. I and my friends all agree with that, don't think the dickhead press speak for us. Respect from Ireland.
Its funny had the drop goal failed, the Boks supporters would have different comments. Let get real , we won so many close games. We are playing a dam good team. Nothing is assured that Boks can break thru defences all the time. Our first half let us down. We should have been better ready for a irish backlash. The new playing system takes time to adjust . Will be happy with this loss going forward . We needed this kick up our back side. Our locks need good backups, and No 8 is a special role & and we need to find the proper 8 replacement. Polard may not fit this style of play. Lets give them some time. We won a double world cup, give then some respect. One loss dont define us and especially 1 point loss . Boks are never a consistent side other than the World Cup.. let's accept it. Move on. Dam, we dont have 3 rd test.
I thought I was the only 1 who was happy that we lost. I said in another comment that Rassie & Co were looking a little too jolly in the press conferences throughout this past week. I hope that yesterday popped the unconscious ego balloon that was inflating. (I know they claim to not have egos, but let's be real - human nature is human nature). We'll learn so much more from losing yesterday, than we would have had we won. I'd gladly take a 67% win record over the next 4 years and then win the RWC in 2027 than be Ireland - winning streak for nearly 2 years or whatever and then choking when it matters most like the Proteas in literally every tournament ever. Thanks for coming to my TED talk. ✌🏾
Just a thought here from an Irishman. The Boks never looked like they could score, except from frees. there was never a try or a drop goal there. I am not being mean you are the World Champions and the best, but just making a point.
@@raymonddixon7603 nothing you've said there was mean. Ireland dominated that 1st half. The Boks managed to chip away at the scoreboard with penalties and thought they had it in the bag. Then Ireland made a plan and the execution thereof was excellent. It's been easy for Bok fans to be courteous and complimentary toward other nations for the past while since we're on top, but being gracious in defeat is not something everyone is capable of, unfortunately. Congratulations on your win yesterday. The Irish are worthy advisaries on field and lekker people off the field.
@raymonddixon7603 Great point. But just one game against an Irish side for 10 years who could not get past Qtrs in a world tournament can not read much into it. When it mattered, they delivered in WC, not once but twice. I'm just making a point, not trying to be mean. We understand the extacy feeling when finaly orgasam happens for the Irish even at the late stage .
Some World Cup players hung around for a couple of matches too long. Understandable that Rassie wanted to give them a chance to beat Ireland but it’s time now to make some hard calls and build for the future. Ireland were hungrier and we need a young and hungry team now. Boks don’t do well when they are lauded as the best and have achieved their goals (back to back world cups). They need to find their mongrel again.
Agreed: South Africa need to show their dominance between World Cups like the All Blacks did for so long. Just look at the attendance at last weekend's fixture, it was a packed house. Imagine having that all the time and the revenue that could generate for the sport in the country.
I agree on Handre. There was an attacking ball he chipped it into their 22 they marked it. His goal line drop goal looks weak, if he miss time both kicks.
Continuing to pick players that have been poor for some time. Kolisi, De Klek, Mbonambi. Picking Moerat and not playing him(I don't think management have confidence in him-he is the Dweba of the squad)Time to start picking players on form. Plenty of players being neglected. Boks kicking possession away. PSDT dropped leadership ball in last 5 minutes. Should have held onto ball.
makes it easier for Rassie as several players have played themselves out of the `bok sett up..Bongi too slow, Pollard hasnt got Manie natural attacking instincts and Faf getting slower...
Never doubted him from the night he made his debut for Leinster against Scarlett’s, was there and he had to kick a conversion straightaway as Ross Byrne I think had gone off injured. He’s world class and if he had been treated fairly by the manager who has just given us our third winless season in a row, Leinster would have done way better.
My view of what needs to happen: Libbok is a better running and attacking flyhalf. Put a goal kicker like Pollard or Sasha at fullback to take all goal kicks. We need loose forwards with a massive work rate. Bring in Roos to number 8, Kwagga to number 6 and PSDT at number 7. Retire Kolisi....his days are done. Bring in Grant Williams at scrumhalf. Need a black captain? ....Bongi. To deal with injuries...Rassie can sort that out with the depth we have.
Agree mannie are suit better on tony plan because he plays that style naturally instead of trying I really would like them to play the way the played the new zealand game before world cup
Shocked? No! They were maybe over coached and were brainless on the day. No robust forward play and no attack or defense from the backs. They had opportunities but penalties and silly mistakes made them look like a Primary school team. Ireland is a good team and the Boks better wake up or NZ and Australia will demolish them.
You talk rubbish, you said - "the Boks didn't look like ever scoring a try". They came very close to the Irish goal line several times but just couldnt get through and finish off. Phenomenal defence by the Irish.
Are you serious? You literally just described what it looks like to look like not scoring a try. As a bok supporter I've become used to thinking that a 22 entry will maximum result in a penalty goal. A try is a rarity against good opponents
1/1 is a fair result between theses two teams.i don’t really care if the boks.go into a slump for the next 2 years as long as we get number 5 at next WC
It feels we need the new players the older ones look stale. Roos Thomas wilko Manie and one or two others would have made a difference. Kwagga and ox are better off the bench
If your teams take the URC seriously it makes them better. Remember they will be against Welsh Scottish and Irish clubs. Then in the champions cup English and French clubs. It puts you in a better position than the Aussies and all blacks.
You can't win by kicking the ball away. So predictable. Didn't work once. A hell of a comeback thrown down the drain. Sorry Faf, I'm your biggest fan, but that was not a good decision
I hear a lot about us Irish saying we're number 1. Pure rubbish. Being 1 or 2 doesn't win you games. In fact not being ranked high helps us as we are far more comfortable as underdogs.
World number one can’t score tries against us? I think it’s time we reevaluate who is the real number one. Ireland did that in South Africa with more injuries than South Africa scored tries 😮 proud of the lads and always a good game with these two teams playing but good to humble South Africans a little 😏
who cares about being No1 in the world, as in golf and tennis, its all about the majors and the Rugby world Cup is Rugbys major..SA have 4 and a 50% strike rate is impressive...
Can someone explain why we kept on restarting the same every time?? Scrummy box kicks from our 22 and it ends 15 metres in our half for Osborne to catch EVERY SINGLE TIME?? Not once did we catch the ball, I think we got a turnover once over it but makes you wonder what the possible reason to not pass it to sascha or pollard to boot like James louw. Also the game management was just horrendous with terrible discipline in the last minutes. We were very far from our best
Hi, You must remember, in test rugby its very important to have a great "EXIT PLAN". If you look at it, It's actually a attacking option from our 22, and a safer option. If we kick it out immediately, it gives them a attacking line-out from our own 10 meter line immediately from the restart. (If you actually kick it that far out) However if we recover the ball or they knock on we get an attacking scrum and platform to get a good exit out of our own half. Ireland have a great exit plan to give louw an opportunity to kick long and far out, and they back themselves to defend that attacking line-out. BUT it did backfire when louw kicked far but not out (2nd half), when Sascha caught the ball and ran it back a few times, he looked dangerous and we almost scored of that. So in my opinion, I'd rather much stick to our exit plan because our forwards are a bit slower in defending a counter attacking team if we kick it long...😂
Wow, don’t put yourself forward as a sports motivational speaker. We are here to analyse the game and not to say ‘well aren’t we great, no issues with losing’
Ag man. Its fine. I think the irish have something to worry about. They dont seem to be able to lift themselves two weeks in a row. Its fine if you playing a Italy and wales but if you playing a top team you have to do it week in week out.
Ireland could put everything on the line as it is the end of their season. The Springboks have to preserve some energy and avoid injuries for the Rugby championship and a long season ahead.
This is the second time irish rugby players try to end rugbyplayers careers. First it was against Pat Lambie when cj stander tackle lambie what ended Lambies career. Now they tackle Marx, with a atempt to injured him. And nothing wil be done. World rugby must wake up
In the last Six Nations Ireland were beaten by England who were beaten 2 - 0 in the reecent series with the ABs. So Ireland beating the Springboks would suggest that the ABs are the world champions?