The Day Heroes and Generals Died 

The best feature of HnG was all the slots on vehicles, you could have like 8 people ride a jeep or have people pile on some random tractor you found.

I even miss the matches where u had to invade and cross the bridge while your team only has a couple of cars and the enemy team has planes and tanks F.

I put so many hours into this game when I first got into PC gaming.

I miss this game so much. My favorite thing to do in this game was to equip an AT-rifle and a wrench. Take out tank tracks and kill the driver when they come out to repair. FREE TANK! The tank play in the game was so good. I loved the fact that the only way you could go 3rd person was to reveal yourself by unbuttoning the hatch and sticking you head out. Maybe its a good thing its gone for me at least, it is the only game with microtransaction that I actually bought.

I miss the incessant whistling 😙 🎶

this is so sad. the mix of rts and fps in that way is and has always been unique.

honestly * loved 3 way battles * loved rts * loved usa vs soviets * loved progression system * loved the crappy sounds * loved to only play with the most abysmal weapons because I had to grind credits * loved 4 hour games (not fighting over objective but eradicating the enemy troops by numbers) dc what u think -- to everyone who is reading this

The whistling, snow at winter, horns on vehicles, oblivious snipers, flock of tanks, some airborne kemikaze, while crouching and taking the point at the attic. makes me cry we can't play this any longer. 10 years of total unconventional fun at "first person shooter". God bless the studio, that will overtake this concept of a game, and made HG2. i dearly hope this day will come. btw, 2 zookas infantry was the most fun for me ;)

the end of heroes and generals was the worst but also the most beautiful moments i have ever seen in gaming. i was there when the servers shut down and without any planning everybody in the map ended up meeting together at the big church and we just had fun, shot in the air and talked . i think it were around 60 people there both enemy and allied. in the 45 min that i was there i only died 3 times because of an enemy plane bombing in all the 45 minutes that i was there. we partied with the "'enemy"' for 45 min until the game shut down permanently . just the harmony of enemies laying down their weapons to say goodbye to heroes and generals together. i have screenshots of the moment and i will forever cherisch this beautiful moment in my gaming history! i will also forever miss my favorite shooting game and there also will never be a game like it.

My soldier had crazy lore. Survived 4 world wars and was an absolute unit. I just wish I remember their names so I can always reminisce about them

It was a bad game, but parachuting in a yet to be available control point, waiting with your buddy spamming whistles, and then hopping on a jeep with an infantry squad is a core memory, it was janky and awful as hell but I loved it. The only game that made me feel like HaG, oddly enough, is Foxhole.

Enlisted just released an update that cut the grind down by basically half of what it was before and at the same time reduced the prices of equipment by 50-80%, all because the community pushed for it so new players will have an easier time getting into the game, and unlike HnG they actually listened.

I still remember my sniper's name. That one sniper i would play frequently, one who got headshot on a moving target at distance upto 650m and stationary target at 400m using C96 broomhandle. Dominik Lawrence. I will always remember you

I still haven't found a replacement for heroes and generals.

I miss the camoflauge badge. Spent so long grinding it, loved having it. Although sniping people and then repositioning to watch over your last spot and wait for your recent kills to come looking for you was fun, it was all because of the kill cam. Both playstyles were fun but the camo badge really allowed you to snipe

I remember when Steam introduced Greenlight where Steam users would vote on indie games to determine which titles would be published on the platform's marketplace. I remember discovering that game there and being amazed, I voted for it, played it maybe 60hours when it released and got tired of it, I felt it was too much pay to win vs slow progression.

I played since the summer of 2014. It definitely only went downhill from when I started playing but I still loved it. One of my favourite memories was when they introduced heavy fighters and they were insanely OP :')

H&G absolutely killed it with combined arms matches, where both sides had tanks and planes. However true fun began with asymetrical warfare. Nothing better than army of 2k manpower supported by tanks and planes could be fucked up badly by team with 200 infantry, who knew the map, had enough cunning and fight in them and enough Panzerfausts and bicycles with them, to hold the line. This game was just different.

HnG was SO MUCH FUN... I'm so sad its gone

Textures of vehicles and assets?: paper Gameplay?: a bit better than playing with toy soldiers Fun?: the funniest fokin game i ever play with friends. And we played from beta till it closed, i guess we both have 2000 hours of playing it.

It always leaves a bittersweet feeling seeing people still post videos of or even talk about H&G. Was definitely one of if not my favorite game for a time despite all its flaws but man the way it kind of ended will always feel bad to me, but it was probably for the best. Though I will always remember some of the funny/goofy stuff you could end up doing in that game like killing planes with panzerfausts or stealing enemy weapons/tanks.

i sank 2k hours into this game and it sucked seeing it get the axe

6:25 Screw your opinion the battle between Germany, USA and Soviet was cool based on my experience back then because the battle is very unique and rarest and I had ton fun I still remember that day.

Heroes and Generals being dead is still hard to believe

This was my favorite game growing up I’ve sunk 1000 hours in it and got every soldier and almost all the guns upgraded and had every tank and plane without veteran or a bunch of in game purchases. I stopped playing for years then got back a month before it unfortunately was removed and sadly there were barely any players so I wasn’t able to get one last game. The memory’s I’ve had on this game were wonderful it’ll always hold a special place in my heart and I don’t know if I’ll ever find a game like it. I hope there will some day be a second I’d happily pay for it if people played it

I played this game since start. I remember launcher from website, Russian weapons as a premium guns, time when Germans started with K98 not with semi auto. Damn I miss this game. It was not perfect but it was ours.

This game undoubtedly gave me the best moments of online gaming. I remember one time I was playing a 4 hour battle and we were almost losing because we had only like 10 infantry left, but suddenly infantry and tank resources arrived and we managed to pull an incredible comeback. What a great time with the allies

I always miss H&G while playing Gayjin's Enlisted 😢

The most important thing H&G had that Enlisted doesn't have are rideable bicycles, in Enlisted you have to run or be lucky enough to get a car- and even then a car is big and may be difficult to maneuver between obstacles.

Here´s an old comment i made from a year ago. Over the years from 2017 to 2020 Many of the big clans tried to do a Q&A with the devs with No luck as our requests would constantly be declined and later ignored by a certain God of the underworld. No hard feelings. We the clans all held community events on Discord that most of the community participated in. giving a sense of community and friendship. These events were held on the war map on battlefields far away from any significant Key objective or choke points. We as a community tried to do our best to interact with the devs in a friendly manner. It´s true the H&G community was toxic we all knew it but for most clans there were no toxicity of any kind. and tried our outmost to interact and integrate new players to our game we loved and spent hundreds or even thousands of hours in. Bigger clans got gold codes for free from the devs. Reason behind it is unknown. Maybe they saw that we tried our best for the game and community with our guides and other interactions with new players or it was bribes for something larger at play. Before the introduction of the Soviet Union The community thrived especially on the Generals side of the game. Most players really fought their hardest to achieve victory. With the arrival of the soviets we the veteran players who have played the longest and players who had spent a certain about of money into the game, We thought that the devs would reward us with free soviet Generals so that war faction could have some kind of foundation. Sadly we were told 3 days before it´s release that it would not be the case. Many felt forced to buy Soviet Generals if we wanted to play them actively on the war map and about a week later there was a discount of like 50 or 75% for generals and other minor war units. That was pretty much the only sale on generals until the end of the game. The Soviets would become my main faction trough the years and i had so much fun i will never forget it. The introduction of the PTRD for the first time was insanely fun yet really annoying of the opposite factions until they themselves got an Anti-tank Rifles. PTRD one shot planes and pretty much all other vehicles except for tanks. Later the nerf of Anti tank rifles and introduction of vehicle components made things different. The introduction of the soviets broke the entire balance off the game in the long term of all the Wars. Most players played Axis and Allies with the third of the player base or even less than that on the Soviets. The early soviet wars were pretty much Defeat after defeat until we the hardcore fans were able to build a foundation on the war map. Later with time Many clans started rotating their factions as it started to get boring wining or losing every war they had for their main factions. Throughout the years i think soviets had an exp boost when playing war that was on 50% as lowest and up too 85% experience gained due to the lack of players and too help players to rank up their soldiers. Something the community craved was new maps we rarely had anything new from the release of H&G in 2016 to its final rest (RIP) Some of the older maps were reworked etc. But Reto-moto had the assets and resources to make new maps we just did not get any. We the players of the H&G community only wanted one thing from the devs regarding updates, roadmap, news etc. Was transparency. Many myself included felt abandoned. We truly loved the game. Otherwise why did we play it ? An article came up back in 2018 - 2019 that reto-moto was bankrupt or something regarding a scandal of some kind. the community at the time asked a lot of questions regarding it on the forums but posts were deleted and discussions regarding it was closed and locked. All we got was silence. Weeks later the article was gone. The news article was from a gaming news site. were it was based i do not recall but i could guess it was in Denmark. This is my story and experience, I had played actively pretty much every day since 2015 until 2021- 2022. I have over 2000 hours into the game and probably 1000-1500 US Dollars invested. Feel free to call me out for any bullshit or other issue i stated in this comment. But this is the truth for me and many others of my friends who played this wonderful game. Here´s a comment from another person who replied on my comment. Thanks for sharing your experience, that was really interesting ! It made me remember some good times I had on the game as well. By the way, I don't recall at all this scandal you are talking about, it sounds really interesting and shady. I remember playing HnG shortly after it came out in late 2014. I haven't played it on a regular basis like you but I came back to the game every 6-ish months to have an intense week or two playing the game and grinding for some weapon or tank. In 9 years, I practically only played U.S army. But the experience was different at some times. The time period where I played the most was around early 2015 and must've been like 12 at the time. I vividly remember having nothing on my mind except HnG during that time. Looking back at it, I really was some sort of a god damn crack addict that couldn't think about anything else and having some sort of "craving" when I didn't play this game for so long. Coming back from school and nothing in life mattered but playing HNG. This was worsened by the fact that since I was a casual gamer and also just a child, everytime I "craved" the game and went to play it, I often rage quit and freak out after 1 or 2 games because some things weren't balanced such as one shot-kill rifles. The moment I learned to chill the f out, I began to enjoy the game and when it came to a bit more balance (especially the vehicle damage revamp) the grind sessions were bountiful and the game much more enjoyable, but still, the p2w experience was too strong. I remember that my favourite playstyle was to pick infantry, mounting that scope on the Garand. It enabled a very fun and versatile playstyle that I really enjoyed. That was the vast majority of my gameplay, but when I had enough I'd just whip out the thompson or johnson MG and blast. Having to grind an ungodly amount of time to earn a MILLION silver coins (I don't remember the name of the game's currency) made me felt like the devs wanted to build this kind of wall between the players that paid and the players that didn't. I think it's the reason I began to play less and less. I do believe I started to play much less often around 2018-2019 and cut down the frequency to maybe one or two sessions per year (3 or 4 games) but still had fun some times. Overall, I think that the community was not bad. I didn't hang around during clan events since I didn't participate in those things but I do remember making some friends on this game. Finally, I was quite shocked and a bit saddened to see that the game was closing but didn't even bother to enjoy the last moments of the game when it came to its very end in May of 2023. Sometimes I kinda regret it, but I think that for now, what matters is to remember and share some memories with the people that enjoyed the game as much as I did!!

Remember one game where all 3 factions met fighting for the church CP and everyone ran out of manpower so in the end everyone just could spawn tankers and pilots (but without planes and tanks)

biggest issue I had playing this was progression, I had one soldier an American (Garry white if I recall) I played from 2012 to 2014 took a break and came back in 2017 and stopped for good 2020. I hardly unlocked half of what was available. It was a great game otherwise. I wish HnG was still around. I really really really HATE enlisted and it will never fill that hole HnG left sadly.

i dont see whats the problem with enlisted day 1 i have a sniper in H&G i legit grinded for over 2 YEARS to get a sniper

512 hours on HeG, remember playing as a kid, back when you couldn't "own" a veichle and you'd had to get lucky and spawn next to a jeep, the USSR hadn't been introduced yet and the maps were super small

I hated it while it existed. I remember always being annoyed the Soviets never had ANYTHING for deployment Yet I miss it now that it's gone. I haven't played since years before it's death, but to this day I still use the name of my first soldier for any kind of "choose your name" game.

Man I still remember the day they nerfed m1/m2 carbine and M1941. I was so sad

I was surprised my Toshiba ran this game at the time 💀

I spent over a thousand hours in H&G and they just threw it all alway

I wish i could rewatch whole Kotton Gamer's H&G streams again.

I had so much beef with this game. The uneven war that only got worse after the soviets were added. Facing Tanks and planes as only infantry, with no tools to counter it. The ABYSMALLY slow progression. and that is just naming a few major ones. But getting to play paratroopers, and seeing the panic in the enemy's eyes when you come at them with a knife in close range, with no melee option if they didn't bring their own knife and shovel. Those two things kept me coming back.

I loved this game and I miss it a ton. I regularly think about it. How my friends and I first discovered it. Due to it being free to play, there was no entry hurdle and everybody could join in. It was fun, not too serious and though sometimes the decked out pay to win players irritated us, it still was fun. I miss those days when life was simpler, and I miss H&G.

holy shit i miss this game so much. maaaan i put in so many hours into this, joined a clan and played literally every night, i loved the community, packing 8 guys on a jeep or even cooler a tank and riding into battle, and when you said that people only stayed to hate play it it resonated so much with me.

For the rest of my live I will remember the day I discovered you could place mines on bicycles in this game.

I miss this game, I was a free to play but I pushed, Grinded every now and then, I main Germany I have some fond memories. Some remember dearly was slipping past a Stuart in a trainyard on bike. During a WAR battle I had found a Discarded enemy GAZ-67 with a machine gun on a hill.. You couldn't move it but It was an Amazing firing position, Flanked by trees on each side, Downrange I had a view between two houses, I mowed down a few assault teams, even a guy that tried to flank me through the forest to the left, before I was dislodged Via infantry support gun I used to fly NoE on factory, getting danger close to the smokestacks to get Enemy Ace's off of me then emergency land on a forested road to get out and repair my plane I remember Sitting across the river In a panzer 4 on one of the town maps, Sending a round of HE Towards the objective

Man. I got 900h+ in this game. What makes this game better than the others is the rts and supply system. Remember when the enemy has huge resources, but your team only has a bike and a jeep, but you still winning.. What the good feeling. Also, in this game, you can flank freely, not like enlisted where the area of the map is restricted. The only problem for me is the anti-aliasing of this game. It is kinda hard to see a long-distance enemy.

I used to play the Sniper_vs_Sniper gamemode so much in this game. Back then the AI soldiers weren't running aimbots which could snipe you over 1 km away and they were barely a distraction. The scout cars from the Snipers were actually good and getting into a fight between 2 scout cars were one of the most fun things you could get into. It began to become a problem when they boosted the AI to be more anoing than most players and make the scout cars like they are made out of paper. I still played to the end and played mostly with a knife in the sniper mode (since I'm a knife main and I love sneaking up on enemies, even if I would just end up sitting next to them and spectate them like a "friendly enemy") but you could feel how they ruined the game.

What killed it for me was the repair cost for guns grenades and ammo, even modding your rifle would sky rocket repair costs

One of the first games I've played on my first PC in 2016, it was an experience. I always tried to farm XP from people respawning on my trucks. I came back to it once on New Years Eve a few years back for an hour or two and it wasn't the same

My favorite part of its death was the yearly anniversary helmet they gave out every year. Right after it came out, they said the game shut down we're making a sequel. Then it died.

I have so many fond memories of the game and I’m sad that it went out the way it did. I’m still proud of what I was able to contribute to the game (the Game Flow update and Colmar Hamlet) but, I just wish I could have done more. 4:21 since I’m not bound by NDA anymore, they allegedly had Amazon money as their backing. The Hacksaw Ridge promo to introduce medics was a cute little tie-in and I wish they did more. The backers pulled out sometime around 2018 maybe 2019 and the 2020 pandemic/recession pretty much sealed the games fate. The BIG factor that led to the decline was the seemingly complacent nature when it came to updating maps. I warned them COUNTLESS times that if they didn’t take improving the maps seriously or considered the feedback regarding it, it would lead to a slow bleed because the incentive to buy new weapons would be lost because there were no new map locations to push the weapons potential and performance. There was a bigger Russia update with Brest (like the one Enlisted just got) but it never saw fruition but the fortress itself had a model but the terrain around it wasn’t finished when I saw it back in 2017. The big issue is they moved resources to working on the Russia maps when the French ones were still in a messy state so they spread their resources thin and accomplished way less than they could with a focused team. If you ever want to interview me about it, hit me up on Twitter or discord 🪖👍

Playing a battle until one of the sides wins or runs out of resources was EPIC and lead to some of the happiest memories as a player.

I used to play the shit out of H&G, I started as a US main then moved to soviet where I got a T-20 komsomolets... then the game died

how to make sure your game dies 1. multiplayer ONLY (no instant action, Co op or campaign) 2. there is no step 2

This used to be my favorite game of all time. 😢

God I miss this game, despite the jank and everything....It was bad, but so many memories and fun came from it

i remember one match well where me and another pilot managed to take out all the enemy planes and then we turned into basically cod killstreaks, other players giving squares where tanks or groups of enemies were and we would swoop in and bomb them kind of sad that i havent really found another game where you have that kind of dedicated pilot roles in a match with vehicles+infantry too

It took me a while to get into it, but when I actually started progressing, I just couldn't stop. For me it was infantry all the way, though, I dabbled in the plane department too. It's just with infantry, when you finally had a couple of leveled characters, you could switch based on the situation, and wreak havoc on the enemies. Just by yourself you really could have a big impact. The large maps also made very deep flanks possible, sometimes they would work out, sometimes you just wasted your time. But boy oh boy, when it worked, greatest feeling ever. May my peasant-characters rest in pieces.

This game was so broken but incredibly fun, I miss the matches where both sides would get into a standstill and 1 match takes 3 hours to finish. Good times, met a lot of good people in this game

Played this game since closed alpha and love it so much. Met the devs (rebjarne from reto) in person and spoke to them. I dont know why they made all those bad decisions because it really looked like the devs loved the game as well. It all really went down the drain when reto's team left and the new devs didnt know how to fix the mess

The only real major issue preventing me from playing the game consistently is the maps. Every other issue didn't bother me enough to cause me to stop playing. There are almost never new map drops in updates over so many years. Every time I hop back on I found myself playing on the same few handful of maps. Made the grind for War battles very monotonous, especially when faction balance was so tilted.

Miss this game played it from 2014-2017 put thousands of hours into it, Now its 2024 and really want to play it again :(

Kind of miss having a camo suit and a STG42 and just having fun with the lads in the German Faction

I had a US character that I created back in 2014 and played until the game was shut down. I took him from Private to Major and very nearly got him to Lieutenant Colonel. He had so many weapons and gear unlocked and he was one of the few characters that I bothered to buy the expensive camo uniforms for. Ill always miss the battles we had.

Enlisted of 2021 will always have a place in my heart with heros and generals

I had 3 k hours in this and the reason for this is that this game had the most unique "War mode" I have seen in multiplayer - you can literally command entire armies on a huge world map and the troops people send are actually beeing played in real time it was fantastic

Spent 1.1K of hours in H&G over here. What people dont realize is how TERRIBLE the grind was. The grind focuses on individual soldier that leads you to a better lineup. It takes hundreds of hours just to completely grind a single person and buying a new soldier wasnt cheap either. When you're grinding for certain weapons, vehicles, or perks. You need to do exactly what the Ribbons told you. Oh you want faster repair perk? You need to drive around in your tank for days. Oh you want better anti tank weapon? You need to use Panzerfaust 60 laid around the map which barely do anything against tanks. I moved from H&G to Enlisted in 2021 and that was one of the best life decision I've ever made. Enlisted used to have Campaign based system which seperates the grind but the amount of time it takes to create a solid lineup for players to use isnt that long and then you can start getting competitive. Now, Enlisted grind system is much more similar to War Thunder as Darkflow realized campaign system isnt gonna work. Because of this, devs decides to remove the campaign systems and replace it with faction based grind. Safe to say H&G overall grind is way worse than Pre-Merge Enlisted. Still, Enlisted had a fair share of controversy. The first time it was released on team, they implemented early access and people need to buy premium squads in order to play. Understandably people were pissed and devs decides to back down and issued an apology.

i still remember putting 3 antytank mines on a bike they removed it after few years but still god tier gameplay

7:17 The Garman and spawn protection updates happened so you couldn’t spawn at control points anymore but only between ones you controlled and people quickly exploited knowing where the defender spawns were; rendering the “spawn protected” zones more harmful than good. Also the map update that came with Garman was kind of a cobbled together mess with fixes in place for stuff that wasn’t even present anymore (trenches where lines no longer went, walled up areas that technically no longer needed it, etc). Long story short, as one of the former Reto-Moto Insiders from 2017, the devs told us the Garman update was THE WORST decision they ever made and it had morale at an all time low (so far). The update also removed the concept of X1 capture points between main objective locations; removing the buffer between capturing objectives on maps that have more than one major objective point requiring capturing by multiple lines.

I had literally everything and every camo and every class and every tank with countless soldiers/tankers all with unique camos and all that, and I didnt know games got deleted. I thought it was forever. Now that I know that nothing stays regarding games Im pissed. BS that you can spend money on something and it just gets wiped away. Now theres no game out there with a global live map that your games actually effect an overall war too. If enlisted did the war mode of H&G it would be probably the best F2P game ever in my opinion.

Man I remember me and my friend just getting a bicycle and riding around the map while ringing the bell and hunting down enemy tanks gotta love the anti tank bicycle

I remember when Vanoss played this game, it kinda was the predecessor to my introduction into the tactical shooter genre years later in 2020

Man i miss this game so much. I dreamt of it recently and it made me cry

Bicycle. Being able to ride bicycle is what got me into the game back in 2013/2014. I quit in 2020 due to lack of pc and unfortunately after I bought a pc this year I found out this game is already gone. Damn sucks.

Seriously had more casual WW2 fun with H&G then any of my favorite tactical sim shooters. The meta of that game was just such a blast.

I remember seeing this game for the first time in one of my friends house when we just started highscool. First thing i did when i got back home i installed the game, i remmember playing as a Soviet only i grinded for all of the infantry weapon and uniform skins and for all the roles, i still remmember my nickname that was in the game - it was No2ndchance i also remmember playing war only but waiting times for a war game were so long (15-30 minutes) that when i waited for the game to start i studied and thats how i learned almost all of my lessons and did homeworks for school was buy doing them betwen the matches xD. I also remmember spending a lot of time on the community all chat and war and faction chats (Yes that game had global all chat when you were not in the game you could talk to everyone) and there i met a guy small youtuber Goldenislands was his youtube and an ingame name we played together and he recorded the matches and you can find us there competing between ourselves who could be 1st on the scoreborard (: , i remmember that i used to be top frag almost every game on the Soviet side too hahaha. My friend that i mentioned in the begining had a low end pc so he could only play smal maps -skirmishes- or else his pc would crash xD so what he did is he lovered every setting he could possibly to a minimum and when enemies hid in the grass he could see them beceause on his screen the game looked like everything was made out of clay xD . i also remmember that we watched a streamer, his name is Kotton Gamer and he used to play that game to and he had nice content. I am sorry guys for the long text i just wrote but you gotta understand that this game had a nice part of my childhood ):

The one thing that kept the community together was the "veterans", long time players that were invested into the niche masterpiece that Heroes & Generals was in its alpha and most of its beta days, the developers' decisions (i.e. turning the niche of a game hovering between casual and hardcore shooters into a more casual "CoD-like/BF-like" experience, or "appealing to the lowest common denominator" for those more linguistically engaged) between the release of the USSR, also known as the T(imoshenko) beta build, and "official launch" of the game, the so called Adams build, put the nail halfway into the coffin, the developers haphazardly persisting in that doomed scenario they created in the builds following Adams was the effect of hammering that nail down into the wood so hard it cracked the wood of the coffin. Now we don't even have anything to bury. Main lesson: If you have an amazing community of semi-hardcore players that don't like going either way ("Arma or Call of Duty"), you should never appeal to the lowest common denominator. After all, the corpo slopfactories (Activision, EA/DICE, Ubisoft, Epic) are way better at that than some small studio from Denmark, even if you succeed (and Reto certainly didn't), you'll still fail in the long run...

I remeber playing the game, the issue is EVERONE just played germany so you had matches were top teir players with STG44s were going around whipping matches and teams with no effort. WHile the issue is still present in enlisted a bit the addition of BRs and the whole squads system and faster grind meant it wasn't as noticabl.

I will have the most fondest memories of this game, it really did take a large chunk of my life away, just sitting at my pc and point and clicking at enemy guys. I was at a time ranked first in the world in this game in several categories including overall. If anyone remembers aanton1 sends his regards! Soviet main for life.

H&G was the perfect game for middle/high school me. I sunk over 1500 hours into it and it's probably the only game I've ever been good at. IMO the armor 2.0 update really screwed the game over. Also Reto Moto weren't the ones who made the H&G2 kickstarter it was TLM Games, who had recently acquired the rights to H&G.

the early days of closed alpha (or pree alpha) where the server was just open a few evenings a week where fun... with grayblock bikes that could only drive forward and exploded when destroyed...

I don't deny the issues you talk about and the lack of trust the developer cultivated, but honestly even post 2018 the game was still incredibly fun. I actually really loved the new gunplay they added then, as it felt both snappy but also you actually had to put some thought into it, modding your weapons for certain stats, having to lead your shots, or deciding whether to just hipfire or aim down sights. Enlisted just doesn't feel the same in this way, thanks to the way its weapons work. There was just so much unique about the game otherwise, from the RTS wars to everyone hopping in one truck to people sneaking an APC around the back and steal capping a point, to those hour long matches where neither team could exactly win and it was a war of attrition. It was a game where you alone could absolutely change the tide of the battle if you were good enough, but that also required and rewarded teamwork to effectively make it through and win the match, in a way few other games I've found can say the same.

Remember when they dropped the m1941 Johnson LMG. It was so OP back then. I would top frag every game.. then I became a pilot main and would continue to carry with the P38 and P40. Loved this game so much. Miss playing with the m18 hellcat and flanking everyone. This game was a gem

Heroes and Generals was suppose to replace WW2online. WW2online is surprisingly still going.

I remember playing it a lot. Quit because it took to long to unlock stuff.

i actually like when shooters add different elements, like battlefield with the commander mode. i really wish they’d bring it back and improve on it like allow us to use drones and other remote controlled vehicles or robots.

2015 player here! Honestly, as much as I love H&G in its infancy, Red Orchestra 2 got the bulk of my time and love in that period of my life!

oh man i am sad because a friend of mine showed me the game like 2 or 3 years ago (maybe more) and i only got to play it for 200-300 hundred hours and i got addicted to it. I feel sad because i did not know about this game before that, it would have been a blast playing it 7-8 years ago...

They recently did an economy update on enlisted that essentially slashed beginner grind by 75%, intermediate gring by 40% and late game by 20-30%. The community was ecstatic. I didn’t feel the same way the time i had on HnG and frankly, towards the end, just kept getting pelted by germans with maxxed charachters lugging around LMG’s as if they were pistols. At least the enlisted community gets occasional wins.

I put around 1200 hours into this game, and for all it's worth, I want them back, you hear me, I WANT THEM BACK

i HATED spawining 2km from the point i was supposed to defend, at one point there were only spawn campers and no-lifers..

Ive spent thousands of hours in this game. from almost the very beginning to almost the very end. This video gave me nostalgia rush.

i played HandG so much back from 2012 to like 2018/19 but afterwards even i coudnt stomach it anymore and yeah enlisted filled that hole to a degree but as a warthunder veteren we all know how gajin is like and reto moto was just sabotaging itself at every step

H&G was the game where germas was OP from begining ... staring from upgrade cost to vehicle ... for example they add fighter to GER and AT plane to US ... BUT killing enemy from 700+m as a sniper and w8 2-3sec for hit or miss was very cool...

I quiet remember that sometime in game scenario has alot of possiblity that to put player in all kinda of really interested combat action with alot possiblity, not just a certain asset to follow, but to utilize all kind of ability that available to try to winning the combat, argeeable or not, this is indeed such fantastic design that making alot of interesting play, the flaw may be for this freedom, is too grindy.

I tried to play it, but the unbelievably high prices for the matches were just too much. I couldn't progress at all and get new guns. And then they neutered the G43 by taking away its good scope and giving it a Kar98K scope.

I don't know about you guy's but I love how the game actually looked. The graphics of the game still reminds me of some early xbox 360 games like Brothers in Arms Hells highway.

That rush mentality of a lot players was staggering.

I played HnG for years (armor) and loved it. I still remember those fall foliage maps fondly... and those LONG battles! Although technically superior, Enlisted just doesn't have the same feel (and it has a lot of its own problems). I miss HnG.

2016... amazing game.. i had so many soldiers unlock all the tanks.

daaaamn dude I miss this game so much lol, playin with and against Kotton, the whacky physics, the great gameplay loop. It was soooo good.