If you’re having speed wobble issues; Make sure you’re over the front wheel with your weight Consider stiffening the rear compression damping to keep more weight on the front. ‘consider lowering the front ride height. Setting up the bike correctly is the best thing you can do. If all else fails, steering damper.
Came here to say the same thing. Also the stock steering dampers are almost useless (depending on riding style 😊). I also spent a few days setting up the suspension. Plus with tips from the vets at the track. My Zx-10r is solid and cuts into corners way different than stock settings.
Long time ago , i had a tank slapper at 125 mph and almost ate it on rhe freeway. Bec I have years of experience, I did exactly this and relaxed, and it correct itself and as the speed went down. It happens and be careful guys. Ride safe and at your level.
@@flavioahmetlli2160ngl a tank slapper at any speed in traffic these days is a life or death situation when you don’t know how to correct it. So your argument is shitty.
@flavioahmetlli2160, yet he is the perfect guy to do so. Considering he's been through it... and survived it without losing control. Your comment Is misplaced and ignorant.
Everyone that rides knows what your supposed to do yet almost noone that rides actually does what your suposed to do when it happens. Almost all modern bikes come from factory with steering stabilizers of some sort and alot are electronic. The first addition to your new bike should be an additional adjustable stabilizer. Apart from greatly reducing possibilities of tank slappers they can be tightened and keep the bike from wanting to swing out while doing rolling stoppies... win win
That was one of the weirdest things to get used to when I first started riding dirt bikes. Granted you don’t get death wobble on a dirt bike when you’re just doing trail riding. But getting the confidence to just actually ride the bike, and not try to control the bike (sounds counterintuitive I know, but it’s the best way I can put it into words) it gets so much easier, starts to actually feel like an extension of your body, not just something you’re maneuvering.
I’ve been riding for only 6 years and videos such as this have helped me stay out of bad situations or doing dumb 💩 basically. Thanks 🙏🏾 Ride Safe Guys!!!
Dude, after having seen hours of moto videos, you are the first to teach me this. I mean I dont steer cramped up, but was allways curious to what makes bikes slap. Thank you for making it so, that even a child could understand.
Elbows in loose grip on the bars, you’d be surprised by how much the wind can affect you at high speeds… just pick your head up above your wind screen at 140 and you’ll find all the way out lol steering dampener helps a lot of people too, I don’t use one because I’ve gotten used to riding without it but must newer bikes come with one built in your grip and elbow position is still extremely important tho..
Sometimes checking air pressure in tires helps lesson chances of wobble. Also check alignment of front forks ect. Might need front tire balanced or a new tire. Just saying
Serious question bro, what’s the best way to actually test this? I mean yea I know obviously if it’s bad enough I’m gonna feel it in my steering or my bars but I mean like what am I looking for there when it’s going out? Is there a trick to test it other than taking it apart and swapping it every so often
@@dillonrogers8744or you can take away the weight of the front wheel by lifting the front up, if the steering isnt feeling smooth or if your feeling a slight resistance while steering it with one fingern , or even „feeling“ the balls of the bearing its worn out
@@dillonrogers8744 like any bearing, when it blows out or gets grit into it, it will start to feel grindy at first then over time the grit will cause a difference in the resistance in the handlebar movement.
can occur also as a result of bumps, potholes, aggressive breaking etc... you can anticipate in your head how to handle the situation by loosening your grip, or like most of us, you freak out, peddle the breaks and try controling the rouge bike because a 50 tonnes truck is heading your way 😰
Great tip. For the Cruiser and Chopper boys like myself. We lean back and curv our backs when it comes to highway speeds. By straightening our arms there are no room for the bars to move. By our backs leaning backwards we are now one with the bike in terms of stability.
I've been watching your videos and get very good I'm about to get a motorcycle in a few months and have a car just to do regular routines at grocery shopping in Big Buck... I learned a lot ‼️
Additionally: speed wobbles are mostly caused by two things: speed and suspension imbalance. If you start to wobble, remove speed, and that will almost always help. Remember, a rolling bike wants to stay upright.
I'll be riding a bike soon. This was SUPER IMPORTANT for me to learn. Thank you bros! I don't know what will happen so it's good to get this from your super experience
close in grip is a personal preference, doesnt mean you white knuckle/death grip it, arms loose and roll on and off the throttle and gently add and remove brake and clutch is all you need. i prefer to grab the grips closer as the rider in the video does, especially with my throttle hand, because i use my pointer finger as a control for the throttle to keep it in place, for example if i hit a speed bump or big dip it locks the throttle in the same position so im not accelerating or changing the position mid bumb, which can lead to loss of traction
The call these PIO's in airplanes "Pilot induced oscillations" My instructors had me fly with two fingers only to help train that. Most machines will drive/pilot themselves if left alone, don't screw it up with human elements.
To be honest, once a tank slapper starts it's going to be more luck than skill as to whether you stay shiny side up or go under the wheels of oncoming traffic.
Bike when it moves stabilizes itself that's just basic physics. Don't hold it too tight and try to stabilize it yourself, once it gets out of control it's very hard to bring it back
Nearly got into an accident like that while going downhill. On my BMX bike... Was going like 20-30kmh (10-20mp/h) or something. Recovered quick by calming down. Remember, in serious situations, always stay calm so you don't make things worse while under pressure.
Dirty wind, road conditions, going too fast for the bikes aeros. There's a reason adv and naked bikes are usually limited to 140-160. Only tank slappers I have ever had were on my 2017 FZ-09 both times at around 120 smooth freshly paved road but it has no aero at all and because you sit on it like a dirt bike your body is just a huge wind sail even when trying to tuck.
Since day one I started riding like this. I have had so many "Death wobble attempts" but they don't escalate further than just a little shake. I probably saved my ass already thanks to this grip
This can happen on any street bike just more common on rockets and older dynas. I have a 99 dyna that will do the death wobble sometimes at high speeds while going around a turn. Spooky as hell but once you learn how to minimize it most of the fear goes away. I relax my grip and slow down at a normal rate. Works every time.🤙
In aviation we call this PIO (pilot induced oscillation) it is much less dangerous in the air unless you are a military or stunt pilot but the same physics and principle are maintained.
You need to mention At an naked bike its possible that you get a speed wobble but an small one What i do and prefer is Tight grip on the handles and dont try any corrections The wobble will stop And at speed over 200kmh or 120mph on an naked try to almost lay on your tank then you onky have small wobbles at an shitty road like at pot holes but these wobbles stop at maximum 1 sek I hope that helps
There is no such a thing as loose or tight grip. You don't want to fly away when your bike hits a pot hole at high speed, and you also don't want to grab too hard to cause wobbling. My advice: dont ride at insane speeds that might cause wobbling on the road. Do it on the track. 🙏
Actually a steering damper is the sure way to fix it and then you don’t have to worry about dying from your dumb loose grip when you hit a bump and your hand falls off the grip. I’d say it’s bad advice. Also setting suspension up properly is important too. Too stiff of a setup can also cause tank slap…
You're also showing a honda that doesn't have a steering damper, then showing a GSXR that does. That makes a huge difference to how a bike responds. But your advice on grip is correct 👌
Another good reason for the ice cone grip if your leaning to the right your more flexible in regard to moving your torso and bending the arm so your elbow and forearm lines up with the bar and throttle hand 👌
Thanks bro, this has happened to me twice, first time I was thrown off at 55 an slid for 100+ feet, the second time I was able to get out of the death wobble
Everyday i see this topic. and everytime people without knowledge nonsense. Its simple physics guys. Just let go. The wheel will correct itself. simple physics. u hold it = u will slide / u speed up and hope that ur front wheel will get up in the air = big chance u slide
Tell that kids not been riding long. Easiest and safest way to never have happen steering stabilizer. The cause is from the front tire coming off the ground and not moving as fast as the back when it makes contact (power wheely). That's how the wobble starts. Been riding for 27 year had biked stretched 9 over on the back wheel stabilizer saved my ass every time.
It’s not always wheelies and speed that cause death wobbles, bumps and misalignment the front and back wheel will also cause them. I have gotten speed wobbles at 30mph on a ninja 250 promise you I was not power wheeling that thing😂😂
Without sounding like a "know it all", it might save your life to know what to actually do in this situation. I was taught in race school (1988) to squeeze your legs against your tank and pull as hard as you can on the bars. Best natural solution and it works. I hope you never need to use it!
That’s bad advice you don’t want to fight the bike by pulling on your bars that will only prolong or amplify the frequency of the death wobbles. Only good advice you gave was to squeeze which you should be doing at all times, Best thing to do is let your bike correct itself because that’s what it’s designed to do.
Just hammer the throttle..🙄 I've done it at least 100 times, even at over 120mph. Hammering thr throttle fixes it INSTANTLY EVERY TIME. No weight on the front tire, no speed wobble.
