The Death Of The Hidden Away Prince 

If you actually read the family letters, not what Prince Edward wrote, but his mother. He was not hidden away, he was protected by his parents. The actual documentary about Prince John, showed how he had freedoms that his other siblings never had… he had friends in the small village, his nanny was with him always and his mother visited him often. His tutors knew early that he had issues and his doctor’s recommendations were taken at heart and he was protected. His grandmother brought him to visit, he worked in the garden and she adored him. His mother had diaries and the letters that John sent her were found. Included in this letters were flowers John had picked, they were also in the books. His parents gave John a life that was safer and happier than in the palace. Stop judging bc they did very well for their son.

It's difficult to see how better care could have been provided for Prince John. His seizures increased in frequency as he aged, and trying to force him to 'fit in' with the public life royalty frequently led would have been cruel. He was not confined as were many who had the same ailment, but was cared for by a competent, caring staff and was seen frequently by his family members, as their necessary duties allowed. It's easy to be critical of them for not caring for him personally, but given their position this would have been unreasonable, short of George abdicating to allow them to do so.

*When Prince John was alive* (1905 -- 1919) *there was no medication to help people with his aliments/disabilities. Prince John was NOT* *"treated as an outcast" or hidden away in shame!* I do not think it was cruel or evil to house him in an environment where he was not unnecessarily stressed and had seizures (as it was, he had more of those as he aged). Prince John had fully-staffed house[1] as well a a nanny, a tutor and a doctor was on call. He was allowed to play with the local children on the Sandringham estate[1]. The Dowager-queen, Alexandria (d. 1925), when not fulfilling duties; spent most of her time at the Sandringham estate. John's grandmother, George V, Queen Mary and John's siblings were frequent visitors to Sandringham and Wood Farm. *Fortunately, for Prince John his family could afford the very best care available at the time. He was not shunted away and ignored in an* *institution like so many other people whose families could no longer take care of their loved one.* Nor was he dragged from Buckingham Palace to Windsor Great Park to Buckingham Palace to Sandringham to Buckingham Palace to Balmoral Castle and Back to Buckingham Palace as his parents fufilled their monarchal duties (all the while being taken care of by mobile or stationary staff) * As it was, in that day and age most children of the upper class were primarily raised by nannies and sent to boarding schools at a young age.* The family of Elizabeth Bowles-Lyon (i.e. "The Queen Mum" ... George vi 's wife/Queen Elizabeth's mother) did lock away two mentally challenged female relatives in an institution.[2][3] According to what I have read, "profound mental retardation" ran in the Queen Mum's *sister-in-law's family* (The Queen Mum's brother, John Herbert Bowles-Lyon, was married to thenHon. Fenella Hepburn-Stuart-Forbes-Trefusis -- two out of their five daughters ... i.e. Nerissa and Katherine Bowes-Lyon were the placed (during their early adult/ mid-teen years) in an institution. Other members of Fenella's family were placed in the same institution. Nerissa and Katherine Bowes-Lyon had been sent to this institution in 1941. Their father, John Bowles-Lyon (1886 - 1930) was dead by this time and their mother; Fenella Hepburn-Stuart-Forbes-Trefusis Bowles - Lyon (1889 - 1966) is said to have visted the two women until her death. At the time that Nerissa (d. 1986) and Katherine (d. 2014) were placed in Royal Earlswood Hospital at Redhill, Surrey (1941) the then Princess Elizabeth (later Queen Elizabeth ii) was a very young child and Princess Margaret had not yet been born. _______________________________________________ 1.) Wood Farm is the place where Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh lived during his retirement. It was a quiet place that had been recently upgraded/renovated (I assume that handicapped-accessible features were also added; he had mobility problems) where he spent his days painting and where Queen Elizabeth visited him. Like her parents and grandparents (George vi and v) the Windsors were very fond of Sandringham Estate. 2.) Nerissa and Katherine Bowes-Lyon en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerissa_and_Katherine_Bowes-Lyon 3.) "The Queen's Hidden Cousins Are Part of a Shameful Chapter in Royal History" www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a34728377/queen-elizabeth-cousins-katherine-nerissa-bowes-lyon-asylum-true-story-the-crown-season-4/

A very sad story. My daughter and her son both have teenager onset epilepsy. Both were teased unmercifully in high school. My grandson was also ostracized by a couple of teachers. That was only 10 years ago. I can understand why his parents tried to keep him away from cruel people.

India has had hundreds of warrior and powerful Queens , who met a painful end . (Like Rani Lakshmi Bai of Jhansi , Rajiya sultan Queen of Delhi Queen Avantika bai and many more ) I'd be really greatfull to see their forgotten stories being told by my favourite RU-vider .❤❤

This is very sad. John was a very beautiful boy with the face of an angel. I do believe he had a form of autism which back then nobody truly understands i believe his parents also didn't understand this and was embarrassed by his behaviour which is why i believe he was hidden away.

Absolutely tragic tale. He was a beautiful child. As a parent of a child who is on the Autistic Spectrum and is also Epileptic, this totally breaks my heart. Thank you sheading light on this little one's life.

They could have treated him like the queen's cousins,dumping him in an asylum and forgetting about him which would have been much crueler.

What a beautiful child!

I think Mary and Geo. Handled this as best they could. He was not too unhappy and Mary had several local kids around to play with him. Mrs Bill took very good care of him. John was accepted by the locals and he was loved.

Amazing how little is said about him. Even to this day

I say this as an epileptic who is well aware of what happened to my forebares. He is lucky this is the life he got. Around this time, we were still lobotomised. He lived out his life even if it was removed from the class he was born to. He was not alone or lonely. Just in a different sphere from his royal family, that lifestyle likely would have been detrimental to him anyway.

Sweet John. Although he was hidden it seems as though he was well cared for.

Just done a marathon and watched and liked all of your videos. All very interesting. Thank you

Prince John wasn’t left to rot he wa loved

Very sad indeed.

Being hidden away was all to common back then but he had it a lot better ie private cottage and staff etc than some poor child would have had

While this child was kept from public gaze (beneficial to the child as he had some behavioral issues as well as the epileptic issues) he was anything but abandoned by his parents. During private time, John was part of the family. However, the job that comes with royalty makes private time a cherished luxury, and to protect John he was tucked in a little household on Sandringham, a place where the Royals retreated at every opportunity.

What a horrible family the "royal's" are.... Edward was a monster for saying those horrible things about his own brother.

He suffered with Epilepsy, was raised in a cottage in the country, with a nurse to look after, I think but not sure, that John was buried in the local church yard. His mother Queen Mary often visited him, as did one of his brothers, unsure if it was Prince Edward or the later to be King George v1.

So sad. 😢

I remembered this story. George and Mary not really in love much each other. Mary didn’t show affection to her children. Later Elizabeth’s grandmother passed 1954.

This is certainly NOT the true story - but I guess it sells.

I wish Prince John did not die so young so that he could kill his older brothers and become King John II and date or marry pinup model Bettie Page. I wish Prince John gave Bettie Page a toi et moi engagement ring with a diamond and a ruby. Prince John and Bettie Page would have made a striking couple. May they rest together in peace. 💐🌷🌹🌺🌸🌼

When you come across a word you don't know [like soliloquise] why on earth don't you ask someone how to pronounce it instead of having a wild guess [like soliskway!] It makes these [somewhat inaccurate, or at least simplistic]"documentaries" into some sort of joke.

Prince John did not live a very tragic life. You are a drama queen. Prince John lived the life of someone suffering from Epilepsy. Only he was treated MUCH MUCH better due to his families ability to take care of him. If he had been put in a camp, etc. they would have tortured him. His life would have been tragic if that were the case. That was the case of many who were not of Royal blood, etc. Please think about maybe doing research before making such idiotic assumptions. Everyone with Epilepsy matters and those who had it much worse should not be forgotten either! I will not allow them to be forgotten. Truth is, they matter too! Prince John was a Prince and he was treated like one during his lifetime. After his lifetime now, I can't say that he was treated equally. He was forgotten, unlike many of the Royals and wasn't even laid to rest with his family. That is a whole other story though and probably based on the fact that many fear Epilepsy. Many at that time and some today think Epilepsy is evil. Some think that the person with it has evil in them, etc. The Royal family may not have wanted that falsehood to have changed how people thought about them. At the SAME time a loss in that way is EXTREMELY painful and not one that someone would want to think about often. Could you honestly blame them? That means, that like it or not gossipers they had a heart! The stress of constantly being in public events before there was any way of controlling Epilepsy would have killed Prince John. His drs may have known that, even at that time. That may have been the reason for his moving. It may not have had a dang thing to do with his parents hiding him away! Shoot! Did they take any pictures, ANY at all after he moved? If he were hidden, they would HIDE the fact that he was even there. They did NOT hide him. His parents wanting to save his life may have been the reason for his moving. There is no need for such drama. Johnnie was the Queens favourite and she loved him. She would have wanted him by her side if possible. His drs had to have warned her that it would kill him to be under such stress. I can't IMAGINE how hard that must have been for them both. Everyone knows that she didn't show emotion the same way as others but I have no doubt whatsoever that she showed she cared in small ways that only those close to her would have understood. They both probably missed that. I may be wrong but that may not have all together died in the Royal family. I personally think that's a beautiful thing. Almost like a private language of love. I have Epilepsy and I know just how cruel I was treated due to Epilepsy when I was in High School. Honestly, I can't even go to reunions due to it. That was YEARS after Prince John who I am very proud to say is my ancestor. My Epilepsy was just as bad as his and if he had the same kind as me, he DID suffer. Why it chose ME, I do not know. There have been I don't know HOW many related to the Royals but I was chosen to suffer. I will never understand that but I do understand that he suffered ALOT and it IS SAD. I truly didn't even know how sad until my seizures were under control after surgeries, etc. that were not available in his time. Learning about Prince John was hard in a way but inspiring in others. If they had that technology during his time, they could have saved him. I realise how sad it is but I also realise it's more sad to people like me and those who are in the Royal Family. He is not your ancestor and you are being disrespectful! Again, there is a HUGE chance that even in that time his doctors may have known that Stress causes seizures. His being sent away may have been to save his life. His siblings may have been a bit jealous because I highly doubt he was treated the same. Look at the HUGELY HUGELY INSPIRING King Georgie VI. Look at what it did to HIS health and he didn't have Epilepsy. Prince John did NOT have to deal with the stress of living under such pressure, etc. because his poor body couldn't handle it. When he wasn't having a seizure, he was a happy normal little boy. THAT is the boy that the world should remember. This world has enough sad things in it. People need to remember the GOOD THINGS! Besides, how many people, even today have their own house? I'm a HUGELY Distant relative and at 44yrs I can tell you, my body is feeling what I've suffered through. Yet, I don't have one person to help me like he did. This is hardly 1919 either! He had people helping him. Perhaps I am incapable of understanding correctly. Would you be so kind as to explain again just how his life was tragic compared to the I don't know HOW many that suffered? Speaking as someone who has suffered in the same manner, I know that he was beyond blessed in his life. The options he had were ones that thousands who suffered at that time and some who suffer today would have given anything for. Nobody is at fault for his having Epilepsy, just as nobody is at fault for my having Epilepsy. If anything, I hate to sound odd but that is proof that the unknown just may be in our blood afterall. Nothing but the unknown could have chosen for anyone to have Epilepsy and nothing but the unknown could give any one in the Royal family, etc. the strength that they need in hard times. I do NOT doubt that many during Prince Johns time thought of Epilepsy as a mental illness because some today think that way as well. That would be false though.People need to look at what those like Bob Fosse did. That is sharing multiple amazing dances, etc. with the world. It's also doing so after having seizures during rehearsals. That is HARDLY a mental illness. Did he let that stop him? NO! Some of us were just made strong like that!!! It seriously depends upon the type of Epilepsy you have, if it's under control, etc. as far as the possibility of that. I'm not related to Bob Fosse but he sure is an example of what is possible. Just how many people do you see talking about Epilepsy today? If awareness isn't created, less people will understand it and more like me will be judged. Still, not many talk about such things and that would be because many still fear them. Although, personally I do not wish to be defined by my health alone. I do not hide it either. My seizures are under control or I wouldn't be able to deal well either because many DO assume that Epilepsy is a mental illness. The sort of Epilepsy Prince John had and I have has been Scientifically proven to open up the part of the brain that understands Spirituality. That fact also hugely scares people. When people are scared they're judgmental and rude. The truth is Epilepsy is hardly a mental illness. I bet even Neurologists would agree there! Judgemental societies, etc. are hard, cruel and absolutely false. I am proud of my ancestors. We have strong blood and have shown what is possible. May those today suffering from any sort of health issue, etc. know that strength flows through their blood as well. May that fact help them.💜

Do you think it would be possible to use the word "but" even more frequently and nonsensically? I had to quit watching the video just to stop hearing this freakish parody of both English and logic.

Too tragic Ignorance

So terrible they just left him lonely his whole life. Terrible.

Ugly story showing some of the worst of the monarchy

Jesus, is the name John cursed in the royal family?