When I went to the monkey temple in Cusco Peru I saw a Jaguar skull shimmering in the rock. The shaman said my spirit is a Jaguar. The gods- they chose me, and I didn't even graduate from fuckin high school
I used to work at a golf course in Southern Tucson in the Sonoran desert, I have 100% seen a Jaguar early in the morning climbing the fence line. It was awesome
@@ChrisRJ animals migrate and try finding new territories just like humans. Just cause we removed lots of their natural habitats doesn’t mean 1-2 can’t sometimes make it back. Nature always finds a way
The jaguars of America went down around the same time as the California grizzly. When they industrialized the Colorado River basin, there was no continuous habitat anymore from the border to the interior of the Colorado plateau. Jaguars used to roam Zion and the Grand Canyon 100-130 years ago.
Jaguars were extirpated by ranchers and poachers. Jaguars would still be thriving had the US been more tolerant. Additionally, the border wall made matters worse.
@@puapucuve6643jaguars are a fascinating animal. Unlike other apex predators they do not go after easy prey. Ranchers in Brazil were killing them left and right fearful that they would attack their cattle but stopped once they saw that a Jaguar would rather hunt a caiman in the water than go after a cattle. Also where there’s cattle there’s people and Jaguars try to avoid human interaction. They reintroduced the Jaguar to Argentina and Ranchers were also fearful but the Jaguar is thriving and cattle ranchers have nothing to worry about. I think same would happen in the US.
Such a small thing that I love about these podcasts is that Joe isn't afraid to ask simple questions when he doesn't know things. Where most people would nod their head to look smart, Joe says "where's the platte river" so that he fully understands the story
he makes the mistake of assuming the answers he gets are told to him in good faith. a lot of times, he gets blown a bunch of smoke and doesn't press for clarity or push back against obvious lies.
Alot of cats do, jaguars are just more popular, there's some small but lethal wild cats with webbed feet out there, you can search fishing cat and there's another I'm forgetting right now but it's in the same family so should be easy enough to find info about if you really wanted to know
I remember the story of one Jaguar that was in southern Arizona. Full grown male they'd been tracking and keeping an eye on and was believed to be the only Jaguar in Arizona at the time until one day he disappeared. Took a couple months but Mexican wildlife control/study (whatever they call themselves) eventually found him. He'd left the mountains in southern Arizona and hopped the border so he could impregnate every female jaguar he could find in Mexico. Last I'd read he still hasn't returned to the U.S.
@@AtibaVV Can you blame em? Ahh those spicy latina jaguarsa they're the best type of pussy to unleash upon unsuspecting couples making their homes. Lol to the sound of porn music :D
When I was a kid in the sixties, teenager in seventies, my family had a World Book Encyclopedia from 1942. Think it was my maternal grandmother's. The section on WWII was still in doubt. Anyway, I was fascinated by jaguars and still remember reading the entry about them. It stated that their range in the US was as far north as my state of Arkansas. I spent many days in the woods of our farm looking for one.
Contact your state fish an wildlife conservation commission. They may be interested in your pictures an information. I contacted mine about some eagles that had a nest an they asked if I had pictures, they gave me an email and asked some questions an thanked me for calling in. They said they was unaware of any eagles in that area an they would send someone to that area to look.
I've always thought of pumas being more specialized in living in alpine regions (except for the florida panther), and jaguars specialized in tropical/subtropical climates with lots of warm water, but it seems like these jaguars in question are able to live in arid mountainous environments as well. I would've thought jaguars would thrive in the swamps and woods along the gulf of mexico.
Pumas/cougers just need forests and a lack of human development because they require large ranges to get enough calories. In Canada and the US, those regions where there are both forests and a low human population density just happen to be in mountainous regions.
@@sauron6977 there was never Jaguars in Europe, you’re thinking of Leopards or Lions, both of which did in fact live in Europe not too long ago. Along with Hyenas too
The habitat in Northern Mexico across the entire US southern border has largely the same climate. 150-200 years ago there were stable populations of Jaguars, Ocelots, Pumas and Bobcats from Arizona to as far east as northern Louisiana. The last Jaguar in Texas was shot in the 1940s. There's an excellent PBS documentary that recently came out about the small Ocelot population clinging on in Southern Texas in 2/3 separate populations on private ranches separated by suburbs and towns. They went down to Mexico and virtually identical habitat where the aforementioned 4 species still live side by side as they have for millions of years. As cool as Jaguars would be to reintroduce in rural, badlands or swampy areas of the border regions, the wildcats we do have like the Ocelot or West Texas Pumas should be saved from extinction. I think it's the ultimate human hubris and arrogance to think we need to "manage" wildlife in totally desolate uninhabited places. They still use horrible rusty steel paw traps in remote west Texas to "hunt" Pumas. And they often sit there for days or weeks in the trap suffering and die of exposure or predation. There was a great documentary that also came out this year called "Deep in the heart of Texas" that highlighted that. Very interesting stuff.
The steel traps disgust me. I come from a family of hunters and outdoorsmen and i totally have no issues with responsible hunting. My grandfather has a large trophy room full of mounts from hunts. I grew up on a lot of local venison, moose, fish etc but the whole bear trap thing i always had an issue with. That's just cruelty and a bitch move on the hunter. We have enough advantages as is. Anyways, I agree. We should do our best to preserve what is there and endangered though it does sound cool i dont think anyone should do this
@@clifford_2zero7 Completely agree. Responsible hunting of game as you pointed out is perfectly fine in my book. And managing species in dense human populated areas I can understand. Just not out in the complete wilderness 10s if not 100s of miles away from a major population center. And yep, let's focus on what's here rather than what isn't.
Steve is so particular about choosing his words when discussing controversial subjects. Very careful to make distinctions between facts, theories and opinions. We need more of that.
I imagine they could thrive easily in central and southern Texas due to the great influx of wild hogs in those areas. They would help to be somewhat of a population control for the hogs without any fear of them becoming desperate enough to go after livestock.
Honestly reintroducing the jaguar would help a lot towards the boar problem the southern states have been having introducing a predator like that for population control could be a good thing since the boars are wiping out entire farms of crops
I think wolves would be a better idea: the hogs could swarm & jaguars could get stealthy & eat someone’s kid (jumping fences, hiding in culverts or under cars, etc…).
Here in East Tennessee we could use some more predators. The deer population is about out of control. Hell I've seen herds of them in the middle of town.
Same here in West Virginia we could really use the cougar tbh cuz the deer here are making Ton of car crashes and the coyote here don’t have a predator other than a black bear but it never happens
The problem with "Recovery" is the tendency towards "Shoot, Shovel, and STFU!" The moment the introduced Jaguars or Grizzlies or whatever start taking pets or livestock they are going to start getting discreetly "Disappeared" AGAIN. Louisiana has black bears, black bears make A habit of avoiding people here which is why you can spend a lot of time in the woods in Louisiana and never see one.
Grizzlies area native to LA. Only black bears. Jaguars are native to Southern Texas & Arizna region. They were just killed off by ranchers. Just like Bison were almost killed off during the late 1800's.
I remember working near the southern border near Douglas, Arizona when they had pictures of jaguars coming back into the US in the late 1990’s and early 2000’s.
I’m Eastern Tsalagi, which is a Tribe from North Carolina. My Tribe has stories of Jaguars living around them. Apparently they were a lot of them spread throughout the South Eastern United States.
There are still a select few down in Jacksonville I believe. No one had seen any in a couple years since Tom Brady scared them away. Heard they might be making a run here tho
I was born in Durango MX. My dad has stories about jaguars in and he was born in 73. Seems to me like a prime example people should have horses and torches. Most stories I’ve hear involve being saved by a campfire or their horse.
Less is more, simpler the better, mo money mo problems, keep it simple, moderation is key, so many similar messages about life can't be brushed aside, we really gotta be cautious, lots of small problems could snowball, the optimal way you see in nature every day.
So yo go listen up! It's nice we're surrounded by human creations, artistic examples could even be in the intricate details in a construction screw, or the lay out of public parks. The thing is though, earth sustains us, not a paper paint picture drawing of earth. Especially because that paper most likely had to tear down an area of habitat for earth and all her living beings.
My grandfather in Honduras, who was born in 1928, told me that when he would go hunting for deer, jaguars kept to themselves. He said that once in a while, he could hear them growl early in the morning.
I know there have been documented Jaguars in Texas and Arizona. One in Arizona ended up dying sadly because of the tracking collar placed on him by the DNR. It is similar to the cougar population in the Dakotas, where males end up in MN, WI, IA and IL, but they cannot establish a long term territory since no females exist in these areas.
At the age of 5 my parents abandoned me in the Sonora desert. A kind Jaguar adopted me as her own cub. I had an amazing childhood. I remember my Jaguar mom scratching my back to help me sleep. Growing tall and very strong in my teen year off her rich milk I can attest to their focused predation and nurturing ways.
@@VibeWithLuna with an abundant food source like wild pigs, jags wouldn’t likely risk their life for some 40lb dog or scrawny house cat unless it was starving
Jaguar don't see human as prey. They likes to stay far from human habitat. In India and Africa people just pass by from their side and they do nothing.
Unintended consequences 🤔....like Hawaiian Mongoose and Rat 🐀 🙄. Be beneficial for awhile, then the slower cattle, pets, chickens 🐔 and easier prey will be taken down. Then it will be like a South Park Episode, against the Cats 🐈
The Platte River is in Nebraska with the North Platte tributary running 310 miles across Nebraska. The mouth of the Platte starts at the Missouri River. Our joke was it’s a foot deep and a mile wide, as it was dammed up for irrigation that some places you could walk across. But I’d imagine the sight of this river to the Coronado expedition must have been an awesome sight!
The Platte river is in Nebraska, that is Northern Plains and yes we have found skeletal remains in Nevada, Utah, California and Colorado, they were NOT confined to just South Texas and Arizona where they now wander back and forth into Mexico. Jaguars fill a niche similar to cougars so having them is not a different impact than cougars. I grew up in wolf country on a ranch and we had a large elk population, people cite a situation like Yellowstone where the elk population was WAY over its natural state so it crashed to a sustainable level after wolves came back, the elk were so numerous they were destroying stream side vegetation harming fish populations.
Speaking of big cats a few years back I was heading home at night and turned a corner, all I saw was the back half of a large black cat walking into the woods. It stood around 3-4ft tall, was very muscular, and had a massive thick tail! I stopped dead in the road wondering if I had just seen a black panther in Logan, Ohio! Long story short I talked to a couple people around the area and the house 100ft from where I saw the cat, the guy who lived there swore a few years back he saw a large black cat out in his field.
@Coleman Monler I grew up not to far away on the other side of New Straitsville and have heard stories of big cats in the area and into Wayne National Forest.
The government says the black cats, grass men and dogmen are not real. You are doing too much thinking and not enough working. The government would never lie to us
One of the best things to come from JRE is Steve and his Org's popularity. He's a godsend for the outdoor community. Without meateater, we'd be left with the trash private land/high fence hunter culture that was prevalent in the late 90's-00's.
I remember a documentary on two young tigers well over a decade ago. The guy was trying to (re?)introduce a couple of tigers to Africa. Long story short, the tigers ended up chasing an African parker ranger (or whatever) on horseback. While it was somewhat funny, as they were more playful than serious, since they had regular food sources. It was terrifying for the person being chased, and the humans in the area need to think that some of them will have bad and even fatal encounters when predators get reintroduced.
Actually, he was trying to make them able to survive in the wild since they were raised in private zoo, and they used a piece of land in private hunting farm in South Africa and after they were able to hunt on their own, they wanted to reintroduce them to India. At the end of it the were happy to see them being able to hunt a deer on their own but they still wanted to make them afraid of humans
And we need more moose, wolves, and bear at the Northern Border. Canooks take our jobs too. I don’t see their kids being detained at the Northern border. It’s just prejudiced to exclude the brown people from the Southern Border. Have you counted how many undocumented Ukrainians, and Russians live in Florida today? Spain built missions, (example the Alamo, it belonged to the Mexicans whites invaded the Alamo first) and they owned Texas. Long before the Germans came here to settle. Lately I see a lot more Indian, Nepalese, Lebanese, Vietnamese, and Filipinos moving to Texas. They just fly in.
@Melting Pot you're right, we ought to extend the range of polar bears to the northern border, the great white shark population around florida and figure out a way to create dragons and have them patrol the skies as well.
As you travel through the Texas Hill Country south on HWY 16, if you stop in Goldwaithe and go inside the gas station next to the grocery store you will see walls of old pictures. One of those pics is of a jaguar killed in the early 1900’s. I’m going on memory here about the date of the pic, maybe someone from Goldwaithe knows better, but those cats were around in Texas back in the day.
That's absolutely right.... I was raised on a ranch outside of San Saba, TX. There were many sightings of a jaguar on the San Saba River. This was in the 80's
I was a border patrol agent in the boot heel of New Mexico and I have seen two of these cats at different times. Both instances during the day time. Both in the peloncillo mountain range in the Coronado national forest. Neither of them was very large. I don’t think the ranchers would be ok with reintroducing these cats but honestly the entire environment on the border is being destroyed by garbage and intrusion from illegal alien smuggling anyway. I don’t think there will many ranchers left out there in the coming years.
There’s legends out here in the Missouri Ozarks about black Panther being here at one time. We saw a mountain lion out here on our gravel road… in southern Missouri where they’re typically not thought of being. I think it’s very possible for lots of these cats to exist. We should give them back their home as best we can :)
Around 2005 I led an adventure ride through the southern Sierra mountains (near Johnsondale). Me and another rider turned a corner and saw a black mountain lion on steroids. I remember thinking how odd to see a black cougar but Googled it at home and found that jaguars have been known to be in the S/W. This would have been about 50 miles N/E of Bakersfield. So jaguars are already in central California.
25 years ago the Tyler zoo had 2 jaguars from west Texas. One was beige with dots, the other was black with faint black dots. I've seen a large, muscular one near lake Lewisville. 20 miles north of Dallas , TX a couple of years ago. It was over 4 ft from front shoulder to butt and must have weighed way over 100 lbs. And a couple of decades ago a smaller, black one that was either a young jaguar or one of the black panthers many people have seen for over 50 years, yet they don't officially exist. Also saw an ocelot in that area. They may all be descendants from some captive facility. Because there is a very large variety of wildcats around here.
Wow. I grew up in DFW most my life. Had heard of the Ocelot's still out there thought to be extinct if I'm remembering correctly. Didn't know Jaguars or Panthers were more than just an oddball incident. Just thought Mountain Lions / Cougars would be the only big cat. Only Jaguar I saw was at the Ft. Worth Zoo lol stalking the fence line like an agitated killing machine.
We have an unknown population of large cats in the UK which is all but confirmed. They're believed to have been pets/escaped from zoos or circuses when they still used animals. Totally out of place here.
Jaguars once ranged as far east as Alabama and as far north as Pennsylvania. I've seen two skulls recovered from a cave in Northern Alabama. I don't recommend trying to reestablish them throughout their former range. Probably not much better than reestablishing T Rex if we could.
I think that's something of a poor comparison considering a T-rex likely couldn't sustain itself anywhere in the modern world based on need for food alone. Between feral hogs and large cervid populations, a jaguar could thrive in several ecosystems across the US.
One day we found 8 of our sheep dead in the field with punture wounds on the neck... It turns out that a panther was using them to train her cubs! Smart kitty
I live and work in the jungle. We have several large and small cat breeds around but its the bugs, the scorpions, and the snakes we encounter constantly that are the real hidden dangers. Thousands of vampire bats can and reliably will ruin your nap if you sleep unprotected. Its just not even close.
As a Floridian I can relate. Gators, snakes, and sharks aren’t your worst problem. They’re dumb and lazy. The insects are what finds you every single time. They are super aggressive and omnipresent
We are talking about 8 ft long cats pinching you off the street. And you come in with BUGS? *Ever heard of catnip* ? Lol. I would sooner take on every bug in New York at once, than a single Jaguar on a dark night.
@@DailyCorvid Up in maine, not being able to take a walk in the woods without being covered head to toe in ticks, with mosquitos and black flies constantly trying to kamakazi into my eyeballs, give me a clean death by jaguar over a crippled life from lyme disease
@@James-uk4xi Yeah try living in the marshlands of England mate, trust me a few ticks doesn't even wobble the dial. Use scent oils, bugs cannot bear it they won't hang about where that scent is. I like mixing them up, so if you 100% want bugs to avoid going near you - use lavender or catnip and mint oils. They react to that the way you would react to finding a large dollop of dogpoop on your porch. Move away quickly! :)
The Platte River runs through entire state of Nebraska from Wyoming to Plattsmouth, NE where it flows into the Missouri River along the Iowa/ Missouri Border.
Crazy thing is jaguars are already in Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and even in Southern California. People across those states have claimed numerous of the elusive animal on their game cams.
Indigenous Tribes like the Apache and Zuni have Jaguar dances that have survived where they wear Jaguar pelts that have been passed down for well over 100 years
1:10 Since I grew up near the Platte River I just want to give a quick correction. The majority of the Platte River is actually located in the State of Nebraska but begins in Colorado and Wyoming. It flows from the Rocky Mountaints for over 1,050 miles east and ends, connecting to the Missouri River on the border of Iowa and Nebraska.
10500 miles huh? I think the continental us is like 2600 miles wides so 10500 miles east of the rockies would put you on a different continent like India? 🤷♀️
A. The central American region is apart of the North American Continent so jaguars already live in North America B. If we go to the next level of ignorance of people think the USA is North America, jaguars have still been seen in Southern Texas and borders around New Mexico and Arizona so jaguars again already live in North America And the United States. C. Yes population sizes are much smaller then they were in the past except in remote south American places, but this is because of the current scale of human industrialization and habitat changes so unless you fix those issues you wouldn't be able to truly restore the population sizes.
As someone that grew up in a country with these beautiful creatures. Idk if American wildlife, pet owners, and ranchers are ready for the SMOKE that a jaguar brings.
Jaguar are my favorite cat by far, and so few people really know how big they are and what they can physically do. This isn't like reintroducing wolves where there's going to be some occasional but preventable livestock predation.
They reintroduced mountain lions here in WV without letting anyone know because: “if it looks like they migrated back naturally, the state won’t be liable if someone gets eaten” according to a DNR officer
I live in so cal, in northern LA county in a rural area. Three weeks ago I had a mountain attacked my German shepard that was sleeping on my porch in the middle of the night. I have a six foot fence around my property, which now I realize is nothing for a mountain lion to jump over. When i heard the noise of the attack I woke up and ran outside, not realizing it was a mountain lion attacking my dog. I yelled and charged it which scared it away. My dog survived with minor physical injurues. This event was scary and surprising for my kids and I. My daughter is 10 years old and loves playing outside, I imagined what the mountain lion could have done to her. I'm a fan of nature and am well aware that these animals lived here long before us. My view is that purposely introducing apex predators into regions where they will knowingly come in contact with people is irresponsible and dangerous.
It would be like introducing bears 🐻 back into the San Diego mountains, they tried it in 50s....it didn't work. Why stop there, want we introduce Alaskan Grizzy Bears back in the lower states..... Nothing else to focus on like crime, street take overs, homless 🙈🙉🙊
I wouldn’t introduce them in the Northern LA county. There are vast expanses in the southwestern US where very few people live, that’s the place to introduce them.
The US has black panthers. I've caught one on trail cam. The problem is people say "it's just a house cat". Trail cam had deer and raccoons on the roll in the same week. The cat was closer to the size of the deer than the raccoons. I've argued with people non stop but I've seen dozens of animals on this cam and 100's of those specific animals. You get an ideo of how big that cat was.
No they do not. A panther is not even an animal. A panther is the nickname for any cat that appears to be black. Most so called black panther sightings are just cougars. Cougars appear to be black in some lighting. Also, this guy does not know what he is talking about. There are literally more big cats and medium sized cats in the United States than anywhere else in the world. I know you are probably saying how is that possible. Well there is in fact more cougars, which is the 4th largest cat in the world, in the U.S. than all big cats in Africa and Asia combined. Yes that is correct, there are more cougars than all lions, tigers, cheetahs, leopards, clouded leopards and snow leopards combined. The truth is North America has more big and medium sized cats than any other place in the world. We have cougars, Jaguars, Lynx/Bobcats etc. There is exactly 40 wild cat species in the world, and only 5 are considered big cats, then you have medium sized cats, and around 30 species are small cats. Cougars are actually the predator that spans more range than any other predator in the world, and lives in more habitats than any other land animal. Their range goes all the way from the northern most part of North America to the southern most part of South America, and they can live an any habitat. Nonetheless, this guy does not know what he is talking about, and there is no such thing as a panther, it is just a nickname for a cat that appears to be black.
Jaguars would probably put a dent on the gator population if introduced to the everglades. The Florida Panther is the same as the North American Cougar, the same genus and species. Just different names based on location. Cougars are sometimes referred to as Panthers, but they're not in the Panthera genus. "Panthera" is the name of the genus within in the Felidae family which consists of Tigers, Lions, Jaguars, Leopards. These cats roar whereas Cougars do not. There is no specific species of cat called a panther. The term is just a nickname.
@@butchvito true but the pythons are putting a dent to all wildlife in the Everglades, gators and the rest of the wildlife could use a hand down here against the pythons
@@Ivantheterrible495 Just letting you know, they shadowbanned your comment, because you used the O word, you can see it because it's your comment and I can see it in my notifications, but nobody else. Which is ridiculous, how are you supposed to refer to someone who weighs significantly more than average.
There is one remaining Jaguar in Arizona, I believe. But it isn’t known if he has gone back to Mexico. He has been “spotted” only a few times after the year 2000…
Lmao they don't hunt gators if they've got other small game to go after, same with pythons most likely, we can take care of the pythons if they keep paying hunters well
@@Gibbypastrami The Jags in the Amazon take down and eat massive Caiman which are basically a Brazilian alligator. They go after those just as much as small game like capybaras. There's not much deer around there in heavily swampy areas. A Jaguar in the Florida everglades would annihilate the invasive snakes and definitely take down some gators. The FL Panther population lives furthest west in forested pine areas where there is a lot of game for them to eat like Deer.
@@Gibbypastrami yup what wildcatz said, they actually prefer to hunt capybaras and caiman, they even hunt anacondas which get much larger than pythons so pythons would be easy work for them. As for the gators, although the Brazilian caiman can get quite large, the gators in Florida are overall quite a bit larger when it comes to full grown size, however I don’t know if that will matter much as Jaguars go for the killing blow by pouncing from behind and biting into the skulls of their prey, besides they would hunt smaller ones and leave the bigger ones for hunters to take care of
When it comes to reintroducing animals onto an ecosystem particularly apex predators there has to be a real shift in the ecosystem that will allow the environment to support them, eg available prey and habitat restoration and most importantly make sure people don't hunt them
There’s only one state on the border that probably can support a small population. Arizona can’t, they have the almost excited Mexican Wolf population that roams the lands that the cats would immediately move into. New Mexico could. No major alpha predators to worry about. West Texas maybe, if you could convince the cattle farmers to deal with the thought of a cat with the bite to bring down a whole cow.
There’s a cougar/Mt lion problem in Oklahoma. I dealt with them 3 times on my little farm, my neighbor shot one on his front porch and the wildlife people denied the existed until more people got game cams and they couldn’t deny it anymore. It doesn’t make any sense to re-introduce them
Oh man I commented the same thing without seeing your comment. I think Jaguars would thrive in central and southern Texas because of the hog overpopulation.
A friend of mine who used to live in texas a while bag in the 70s-90s said there were no pig problems cuz they let the coyotes alone which took care of the runts but now that the yotes are gone the pigs have no predator at all except us. Dunno how true that is but another large predator could be part of things.
My grandfather's grandfather had a friend in Portal, Arizona by the name of Dale Lee. He has a book out and he was one heck of a lion/jaguar hunter. He killed plenty of jaguars for ranchers in southern Arizona much more than a few strays here and there
I figured this out years ago as a teenager. Im a bit of a nature nerd, and quickly looking at north america fauna, u clearly see that a big predator is clearly missing. Cougar or mountain lion are not large "big" cats. It's my personal opinion that jaguar priory to 1500-1600AD ranged as far as the southern end of the great lakes. Perhaps into southern ontario. Jaguars actually handle snow very well. We are simply used to seeing jaguar in tropical regions. Yet the same mountain lion can be found in these areas too. Yet mountain lion can be found across the two continents, in nearly every biome. The same can be said of jaguar when they are present. Both species are extremely adaptable. However for africa as a reference, jaguars are the lions and mountain lion are the leopards. If u put them side by side, ecological nich wise they fit.
Turning a jaguar "loose" in the southern states would be no major difference with there already being mountain lions naturally "loose" in their environment. "Foreign species" have already been introduced, there have also already been sightings of jaguars in the south of Arizona as well as wolf packs in the northern mogollon rim areas.
It's a HUGE difference. Jaguars are extremely aggressive, we've had sightings and attacks in Arizona. I'm not really a fan.... I'm OK with having them on reserves but Jaguars are way more dangerous than mountain lions
@@fallenshroud9956 jaguars are ambush predators so if caught or seen they won't attack. Theyre attacks are one shot kills. I looked up jaguar attacks in Arizona and there's none aside from one in captivity.
Considering the Southern States are the ones with the largest wild hog populations on the entire continent and cause hundreds of millions in agricultural damage a year, a 200lb cat whos main food source in South America are pigs would quite literally be the best thing that can happen.
Actually in Tennessee you would be surprised because people over the years have taken them as pets and then let them go into the mountains when they got too big or couldn’t handle them anymore. I lived in Gatlinburg and heard my cat freaking out and I ran outside and my cat was frozen stiff looking in one direction. I looked in the direction and there wasn’t anything there except a tree. Then as I looked up in the tree there was a full grown Black Panther and it was watching me and climbed headfirst down the tree and walked up about fifteen feet from me and just stared in my eyes. I’m not joking at all. Swear to God. I stood still and we stared at each other for a little bit and it slowly turned around and walked away. It didn’t act aggressively or anything but I can’t say what it would have done if I tried to turn my back and run away either. I went to school the next day and told everyone and no one believed me. I’m sure lots that see this won’t believe it either but think about how many rich people live up there in the mountains who would have had these kinds of animals over the years. To be honest that was my favorite animal always so coming face to face with one was actually something really special to me. Such a beautiful thing to see like that. My cat had no idea what to think though lol
Any ecologist will tell you that reintroducing predators that were hunted to extirpation after europeans came to America makes sense. Especially ones that prey on foraging animals like deer and pigs. Im sick of these northerners moving down south where people like to hunt and be in nature (the real world) and telling us what to do. You don't like that there's bears, or panthers or jaguars around? Too bad. Move back up north so you can sit in traffic all day and look at parking lots and suburbs.
