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The Definitive Guide to Obi-Wan's FORGOTTEN Apprentices - Ferus Olin & Halagad Ventor 

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@Scruffy847
@Scruffy847 2 года назад
I'm surprised you didn't mention that Ferus, during his time as Obi-Wan's apprentice, spied on the empire. At one point he was even Darth Vader's personal assistant, not knowing he was Anakin, but with Vader being very keenly aware who he was, although not realizing he was a spy. Made for a very interesting dynamic honestly.
@maadtee6281
@maadtee6281 2 года назад
Was he an inquisitor or just lied what he was
@Scruffy847
@Scruffy847 2 года назад
@@maadtee6281 He was a double-agent, blackmailed by Darth Sidious into spying for the empire whilst simultaneously working to undermine it from the inside. This was before his asteroid base was destroyed and he became Leia's protector.
@MkJamm
@MkJamm 2 года назад
I wouldn’t say Kenobi is a man of many mysteries, but he definitely has several layers to him which the average fan wouldn’t expect. Forbidden attachments, apprentices besides Anikan, and so much more… Can’t wait for the Kenobi series 👍
@geetslys
@geetslys 2 года назад
Same cannot wait for the show!
@phillipmeyer4059
@phillipmeyer4059 2 года назад
I would not say his attachments were forbidden he kept them under control and kept the rules of the order.
@thecoroner2650
@thecoroner2650 2 года назад
@@phillipmeyer4059 Cerasi says otherwise, though admitedly that was as much Kenobi digging his heels in over her cause being just and teething problems with his apprenticeship to Qui-Gon as anything else.
@garegos7184
@garegos7184 Год назад
well that didnt age well haha
@Aaron-fb6mb
@Aaron-fb6mb 4 месяца назад
@@garegos7184yeah :/
@lerneanlion
@lerneanlion 2 года назад
Darth Vader: My old... friend, Ferus Olin, you survived. Ferus Olin: Heard you got a new armor, Vader. Or should I say... Anakin Skywalker!
@ChthonicRemains
@ChthonicRemains 2 года назад
Ferus Olin is my all time favorite Jedi and his epic badassery deserves screen time in these Star Wars movies. Besides being a very powerful Force user, he was also a skilled practitioner of Form VII: Vaapad and Juyo lightsaber combat so it would've been really interesting to see another Light Sided Jedi besides Mace Windu fight with a borderline Dark Side combat style.
@jackson857
@jackson857 2 года назад
I loved those Last of the Jedi books when I was a kid.
@Aaron-fb6mb
@Aaron-fb6mb 4 месяца назад
Same dude the one where they snuck into the defunct Jedi temple with Trevor flume gave me goosebumps
@The_Brickster
@The_Brickster 2 года назад
Yes! Glad to see the Apprentice, Quest, and Last of the Jedi series getting some love recently with the increased interest in Kenobi! Read those books so many times in my childhood.
@geetslys
@geetslys 2 года назад
Couldn't agree more!
@GetZeducated
@GetZeducated 2 года назад
Ferus has always been my favorite Jedi
@jaieregilmore971
@jaieregilmore971 2 года назад
Yeah I like idea a Jedis can train more than one apprentice.
@Girl10112
@Girl10112 2 года назад
real and true
@Excellsion
@Excellsion 2 года назад
I am proud to say I was well aware of both of these people. I love them both. Definitely tell the people more about them. They worked so hard.
@geetslys
@geetslys 2 года назад
💯
@boomingbob1579
@boomingbob1579 2 года назад
Gotta love the unknown characters
@geetslys
@geetslys 2 года назад
Yes, they are awesome!
@boomingbob1579
@boomingbob1579 2 года назад
@@geetslys they are rlly great
@EdaugEthanbYT
@EdaugEthanbYT 2 года назад
Obi Wan is such a good character. The archetype Jedi who is perfect with everything except for his apprentices.
@geetslys
@geetslys 2 года назад
Facts😂
@FalconWindblader
@FalconWindblader 2 года назад
He does have a penchant of either adopting troublesome apprentices or apprentices who tend to invite trouble after all.
@TSmith-yy3cc
@TSmith-yy3cc 2 года назад
The fact that Obi-Wan "didn't notice" Anakin heading towards the dark-side after the 15 million "I'm definately the baddie" hints he dropped is enough of a reason to believe that Obi-Wan was Darth Jar-Jar's apprentice.
@jedihistorian8660
@jedihistorian8660 2 года назад
It’s weird, because the Jedi Quest books have so many moments of Obi-Wan questioning if he’s the right teacher for Anakin and agonizing about Anakin making the right choices, and then never talking to him about it except to argue with him and tell him what he did wrong. You get the feeling if they would have just sat down and had one conversation, the galaxy could have been saved.
@lauren1211
@lauren1211 2 года назад
@@jedihistorian8660 He was probably just scared and didn’t know how to voice his concerns properly without being super critical and condescending I know a lot of people in real life like that
@inquisitorgarza312
@inquisitorgarza312 2 года назад
Obi-Wan novels were well written and in fact established that many of these side characters were mainstream in the novels of the legends timelines. I myself have enjoyed several of the books in the series, and many of the stories in the books were really good.
@marionchua7543
@marionchua7543 2 года назад
I love that you featured Ferus in your video since he's my ultimate favorite Star Wars character. I feel like he's a largely underrated character who's done some really amazing feats with his powers that I don't usually see other Force users do and his affection for his husband along with his paternal love for Leia is so heartwarming. I hope Disney and Lucasfilm will be able to introduce him back to canon in the Star Wars cinematic universe someday. ❤
@BrassPlayr
@BrassPlayr 2 года назад
Ferus Olin was my favorite Jedi in middle school
@jaieregilmore971
@jaieregilmore971 2 года назад
Is it true he protected a young Princess Leia as a bodyguard?
@JediAcolyte94
@JediAcolyte94 2 года назад
@@jaieregilmore971 Yes it is covered in the last of the Jedi series and rebel forces series.
@BrassPlayr
@BrassPlayr 2 года назад
@@JediAcolyte94 Last of the Jedi was the first EU series I read!
@jaieregilmore971
@jaieregilmore971 2 года назад
@@JediAcolyte94 love legends stories give more lore on the Jedi.
@murtrahnosemaj4961
@murtrahnosemaj4961 Год назад
I really hope they make Olin canon. Always thought he was a cool Jedi with a really neat storyline
@xTK421x
@xTK421x 2 года назад
Obi Wan and Tachi never picked up on Anakin's jealousy? A red stripe of passionate jealousy and 2 masters did not pu on it.
@thomaswest2583
@thomaswest2583 2 года назад
I don't know if you left a lot out or if they have two versions. For Ferus the books I read he got captured by the empire. Sidious gave him a sith holcron knowing Ferus would fall to the dark side. He turned back good. But not before he scared the crap out of his allies.
@nebcyt-notenoughbraincells419
@nebcyt-notenoughbraincells419 2 года назад
All I know is that if he taught them hot to negotiate with and troll the sepis,he taught them well.Also can you do a vid on how thrawn found grees helmet and had it on the chimera in rebels.
@Aaron-fb6mb
@Aaron-fb6mb 4 месяца назад
Whattt no way
@zexalbrony4799
@zexalbrony4799 2 года назад
And people say you can't fit two different contiunties together. Well, look how well they intergrated Halagad Ventor into two stories that seemingly contradicted each other. Retcons, sometimes there a force for good. :)
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 2 года назад
Just make sure they work quite well and not derail too much (looking at you, Dragon Age sequels and other works I won't name here). And, lo and behold as of recently, in one world, a magical school is starting to resist a tyrant, in another, it's bloody Sernpidal all over again... or maybe a Razgriz vs. the SOLG.
@zexalbrony4799
@zexalbrony4799 2 года назад
@@michaelandreipalon359 Yeah, those two episodes were insane and awesome. The K-Pop fight was just the kind of thing I love, music played in-universe in battle. And the stuff at the school, I wasn't expecting everyone to join in the fight, Amity, Willow, and Gus sure, Edric, Emira, and the flyer derby Team maybe, but the entire school, that was a surprise to be sure, but a welcomed one. Through, I am a little mad they didn't resolve the cliff hanger from the last episode. Still, these episodes were great. Also, with how many allies Luz and Eda are gaining, and how fast it's happen it kind of reminds me of the narration before the Battle of Kashyyyk in the old Battlefront 2 game during story mode. And since I am a massive Star Wars nerd, I just had to make a variation of that narration for The Owl House: Luz: "When we learned of Belos plan and tried to stop him, things were just bad as we imagined. Even with Amity, Willow, Gus, and our remaining main allies, Belos's army had us outgunned, outmaneuvered, and outmanned by a 5 to 1 majin. What none of us had counted on was the rest of Hexside joining us to help stop Belos. Still, it was a suicided mission even with the help. That is, it was until several of the Coven Heads and many people in the Emperors Coven joined us, like Warden Wrath said many in the Coven had doubts and joined us, then it became a battle. A winnable battle."
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 2 года назад
SOMETIMES you can manage it other times it just can't work .
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 2 года назад
Never am much into Blackpink. With that in mind, the likes of "Lean on Me" from the show's Season 1 finale, Animation vs. Minecraft's "Pigstep" remix, and The Mitchells vs. the Machines' "Live Your Life" and other licensed songs are more in line on personal preferences. Nice narration there, but I would prefer a background character's eyewitness observations, not a main character's, for more spice, a newer angle, and how they did and felt during the time of crisis.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 2 года назад
DIEGhostfish And besides, even those "sometimes" moments can do a whole lot of good even if trivial.
@slicerneons3300
@slicerneons3300 2 года назад
I really appreciate good retcon efforts like that. Too many writers are lazy and care about their story over the franchise as a whole.
@alsimmonshellspawn6021
@alsimmonshellspawn6021 2 года назад
Disney writing ✍️ is lazy af
@comm154
@comm154 2 года назад
Finally someone brings them up again. Its been so long since I've seen anyone else remember these two.
@jaieregilmore971
@jaieregilmore971 2 года назад
I’m glad Obi wan is able to train more than one apprentice to show the Jedi apprentice can work together.
@alsimmonshellspawn6021
@alsimmonshellspawn6021 2 года назад
the old EU had way more lore depth stakes and soul than Disney canon
@Bills.shorts
@Bills.shorts 2 года назад
THIS IS MY SHIT love all your videos man but this one slappppped, it’s not often I find videos on lore I not only don’t remember, but have actually never heard of, thanks Geetsly!
@vndtta9361
@vndtta9361 7 месяцев назад
I love the OG Battlefront transition!!
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 2 года назад
0:05 Shame that Anakin was never promoted to Jedi Master
@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478
@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478 2 года назад
It's a good thing Ahsoka wasn't made Obi-Wan's apprentice, since she would have likely been gunned down by the 212th when Order 66 was issued.
@geetslys
@geetslys 2 года назад
Yeah, she got lucky!
@maadtee6281
@maadtee6281 2 года назад
That's if Cody wasn't made better by Ashoka
@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478
@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478 2 года назад
@@maadtee6281 Well, given how much of a by the books guy Cody was, that is unlikely.
@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478
@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478 2 года назад
@@geetslys Extremely lucky
@maadtee6281
@maadtee6281 2 года назад
@@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478 pretty sure rex was also by the books until spending more time away from Cody. Ashoka can help with changing Cody a lot
@marielawrence468
@marielawrence468 2 года назад
Feels nice to be 5 Minutes earlier to a video…feels like I’ve just won the world
@Starwars-Fanboy
@Starwars-Fanboy 2 года назад
could you make a video specifically on Ferus Olin ? He's one of my favorite legends characters
@Aaron-fb6mb
@Aaron-fb6mb 4 месяца назад
Yes please
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 2 года назад
I love weird patch together retcons they're favorite thought exercise of mine.
@indianajones4321
@indianajones4321 2 года назад
I wonder if Kenobi trained them to be masters at getting caught
@fiveskix
@fiveskix 2 года назад
I’m sure they aren’t bad people… all of obi wan’s apprentices turn out to be good guys
@Karlos1234ify
@Karlos1234ify 2 года назад
After being evil
@raresux
@raresux 2 года назад
yeah they're all good people, yknow, being moral and selfless, killing a few younglings on the side, not too many, that would be dastardly. no, just some all-around good people /s
@jedihistorian8660
@jedihistorian8660 2 года назад
The Jedi Quest series, where Ferus is from, has a lot of terrible decisions from the Council, where they decide to temporarily leave 13yo Anakin enslaved in the spice mines, don’t care about him being drugged by Sith Cultists, or send him to pursue Jenna Zan Arbor, the scientist who drugged and experimented on him. I honestly like the Council, but some of their choices were baffling. Would you consider making a video about their ten worst decisions (regarding Anakin)?
@SneklySnek
@SneklySnek 2 года назад
one thing I think that would be interesting to cover is more situations like the later apprentice where things were the results of minor retcons or things which were changed in creative ways like the concordance of fealty being used to explain the original comic being made 'wrong' when other movies came out
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 2 года назад
So, anyone in the comments actually read and been through Ferus Olin's adventures from his very first appearance to his supposed endgame later on? If so, congratulations, even if pain and unresolved issues were also received by marching on.
@Excellsion
@Excellsion 2 года назад
Maybe... Definitely read a solid chunk, can't remember if the local library pile stretched all the way to the end.
@maadtee6281
@maadtee6281 2 года назад
Fun fact obi wan is a tragic hero who still remained in the light dude lost Satine and he still wasn't consumed by the darkside
@danpatrickth2759
@danpatrickth2759 Месяц назад
Agreed
@captainseabass874
@captainseabass874 2 года назад
How to avoid the Empire: find remote jungle/swamp planet. Sit and wait. K’Kruhk and Yoda had the right idea
@romancapulus5577
@romancapulus5577 2 года назад
Anakin: “I thought I was your only apprentice. That makes Ferus and Halagad my rivals.” Kenobi: “What?” Anakin: “What?”
@geetslys
@geetslys 2 года назад
😂
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 2 года назад
Probably Yoda: "What about what?"
@amanzeihedioha
@amanzeihedioha 2 года назад
Ferus...🥺
@Idkidkidk716
@Idkidkidk716 2 года назад
Anyone remember Star Wars the grocery store wars I just remembered it now. It’s the death melon. So corny but funny
@mrrictus
@mrrictus 5 месяцев назад
ATHA PRIME was released as a 3.75 figure back in the day (late 1990's). But during that time the character wasn't a singular identity, hold the same title/name. And was also introduced (design wise) in a classic star wars post rotj. Points to you if you recognize ATHA PRIMES physical design.
@blacksun6245
@blacksun6245 2 года назад
I would pay to see this turn into a spin-off series of clone wars
@Aaron-fb6mb
@Aaron-fb6mb 4 месяца назад
Duuude that would be amazing
@shanenolan8252
@shanenolan8252 2 года назад
Continuity is fun .cheers. ( pay attention Lucasfilm)
@Daniel_Huffman
@Daniel_Huffman 2 года назад
I got an Expedia advertisement narrated by Ewan McGregor while waiting to see this video. I think it’s trying to tell me to visit Tatooine.
@dinodino9469
@dinodino9469 2 года назад
Ahh yes a new hologram full of new knowledge
@Night-ec7ef
@Night-ec7ef 2 года назад
Ferus is one of my favorite star wars people
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 2 года назад
*sees description quotes* I didn't mind them much. Same for the original cover for the second Darth Bane novel.
@teleportedbreadfor3days
@teleportedbreadfor3days 2 года назад
That mission to Korriban got me extremely curious. Like, what could they possibly be going there for during that time.
@karlrovey
@karlrovey 2 года назад
They were going after a man named Granta Omega.
@vlare3636
@vlare3636 2 года назад
Glad you covered this , I remember reading the Ferris Olin book as a kid
@cellianexurianity5021
@cellianexurianity5021 2 года назад
Hmmm, siri tachi, that name is familiar. I remember her from star wars: jedi starfighter working with Adi Gallia up to the first battle of geonosis.
@jj_grabes
@jj_grabes 2 года назад
I think I read about the EU novels where Ferus appeared, but I didn't know about Halagad,
@XLjackbot
@XLjackbot 2 года назад
Ngl looking into Zeta Magnus would be cool, he despite his few appearances is definitely up there as an interesting villain along with Durge and Grevious. Plus it is a good chance to look at the arkanians who are very underrated.
@oriongear2499
@oriongear2499 10 месяцев назад
I wish Tales Of The Jedi focused on Anakin's, and Obi-Wan's Pre-AOTC time as Apprentice, and Master, respectively, instead of Ahsoka. It would've been a great way to re-canonize Ferus Olin, Siri Tachi, and possible Araa Thel-Tanis & Tru Veld.
@TheSuperRatt
@TheSuperRatt 2 года назад
Anakin was kind of an asshole, wasn't he? So many red flags throughout his life. Qui Gon, or perhaps Mace Windu, were maybe the only Jedi who may have been able to get through to him. I love Obi-Wan, but he simply wasn't the right person for the job, and that should have been noticed.
@jedihistorian8660
@jedihistorian8660 2 года назад
What this video left out was that Ferus and Anakin were both terrible to each other-including a time when Anakin had been captured and drugged and unknowingly used in a scientific experiment about the Force, and Ferus blamed Anakin for being conflicted about his captivity. It definitely wasn’t a case of Anakin being an ass and Ferus being an angel. Agreed that someone should have noticed Anakin’s problems and intervened, though.
@Aaron-fb6mb
@Aaron-fb6mb 4 месяца назад
Obi wan was just too young. I mean he was literally a padawan when he took him on
@d3m1g0d4
@d3m1g0d4 2 года назад
Anakin the brat stikes again😂
@V.B.Squire
@V.B.Squire 2 года назад
Disney could put all these old comics through animation with the benefit of hindsight the writers didn't have the first time round SIGH
@Aaron-fb6mb
@Aaron-fb6mb 4 месяца назад
That would be so nice
@goldeagle6431
@goldeagle6431 2 года назад
The Senate always learns from every apprentice.
@SenVerweij
@SenVerweij 2 года назад
6:28 wow this is really interesting. Never knew about this but glad I do now! Does anyone have some other examples of 2 jedi doing this?
@nathanweast4397
@nathanweast4397 Год назад
This would've been a nice tie in for the Kenobi series.
@chad7640
@chad7640 2 года назад
Detroit: Become Human was a very good game tho
@thirdplanet4471
@thirdplanet4471 2 года назад
Imagine of Olin had trained Leia to use the force
@Aaron-fb6mb
@Aaron-fb6mb 4 месяца назад
She’d be so powerful
@Aaron-fb6mb
@Aaron-fb6mb 4 месяца назад
But I don’t think she hit force puberty until way later in her life
@SenVerweij
@SenVerweij 2 года назад
Great vid!!!
@oracleowen
@oracleowen 2 года назад
i hope they put Ferus in Kenobi seaosn 2
@theonionmike4151
@theonionmike4151 2 года назад
Wasn't Halagad Ventor captured and tortured by inquisitors? Maybe you could do a video about jedi run-ins with the inquisitorious, I believe both Ventor and Ferus Olin had several encounters with them. (Legends, of course!)
@Excellsion
@Excellsion 2 года назад
Iirc, Halagad and the likes of Qu Rann established a network of surviving jedi, but Halagad eventually got captured, and after IMMENSE, UNENDING TORTURE by Vader and company he broke, and disclosed their locations. Only Qu Rann escaped, everyone else in the network was slaughtered. In a cruel act of mercy, Vader let Halagad live, and he went into exile. Eventually a ship crew that was (stranded? lost? I forget) showed encountered him, and presented him with his Republic Medal of Valor that he had always brought with him, but left in his ship when he went into exile. He helped the crew out, and was able to die in peace, and I think he might have become a force ghost. Details are hazy, so don't quote me on anything, but that's the gist of it.
@Aaron-fb6mb
@Aaron-fb6mb 4 месяца назад
@@ExcellsionI love Star Wars. I love how deep all the lord goes
@3.75istheway7
@3.75istheway7 2 года назад
How did obi wan have 2 other apprentice’s? He got Anakin when he became a night and we never seen a different apprentice? Was it after Anakin that we just never seen?? Weird
@Aaron-fb6mb
@Aaron-fb6mb 4 месяца назад
Between movies in the books and all that. A lot happened between the movies
@karlrovey
@karlrovey 2 года назад
I never considered Olin to be Kenobi's apprentice. I never heard of the other one before.
@KonradvonHotzendorf
@KonradvonHotzendorf 2 года назад
Touchy🤣🧟‍♀️
@gregorylieber8362
@gregorylieber8362 2 года назад
Neat!.. 'Neetsly'?
@gamercore5216
@gamercore5216 2 года назад
Olin is a badass, and one of the few gay star wars characters
@jaieregilmore971
@jaieregilmore971 2 года назад
Yeah he is a cool character.
@alsimmonshellspawn6021
@alsimmonshellspawn6021 2 года назад
you only care about the sexuality?
@gamercore5216
@gamercore5216 2 года назад
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 no he's also an inquisitor, it's just his creator wanted his homosexuality to be a key trait and it wasn't mentioned, not to mention people want representation in media
@johanstenfelt1206
@johanstenfelt1206 2 года назад
Hm, how very interesting.
@robertagu5533
@robertagu5533 2 года назад
So.. in all ACTUALITY.. Kenobi ISNT much of a teacher is he? In fact, Anakin was an ALMOST success unless you count him becoming a Knight an Council Member an then Anakin's Son Luke whom got it right where he failed. Sounds like MOST of Kenobi's trainees either would die or turn Evil at some point
@advena996
@advena996 2 года назад
I mean, he's got 3 of 4 on the light side! 😅. And honestly he even master Yoda himself trained one that went bad... And as to dying, well, being a Jedi through order 66 and beyond is hazardous.
@robertagu5533
@robertagu5533 2 года назад
@@advena996 notably the beyond part.
@xTK421x
@xTK421x 2 года назад
I HAVE THAT ISSUE!!!!!
@astromo1
@astromo1 2 года назад
hello there
@watercannonscollaboration2281
@watercannonscollaboration2281 2 года назад
I misread the name of the video as “obi-wan’s appearances”
@nathandavis7343
@nathandavis7343 2 года назад
I would love to read these stories what novels or comics are they in
@Aaron-fb6mb
@Aaron-fb6mb 4 месяца назад
Last of the Jedi. and Jedi apprentice books
@bacohpfanwhick2572
@bacohpfanwhick2572 2 года назад
Why does one of the apprentices look like Robert Pattinson? From a certain angle.
@jonahstirbis3408
@jonahstirbis3408 2 года назад
Its messed up how Anakin killed another apprentice.
@amterasutenma2547
@amterasutenma2547 Год назад
Wasn't it an accident with a lightsaber he helped build?
@annae8339
@annae8339 7 месяцев назад
Is any of this cannon?…
@Aaron-fb6mb
@Aaron-fb6mb 4 месяца назад
Nope Disney dumped it all when they bought SW
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