The Definitive Guide to Off-road trail riding and navigation - Know where you can legally ride 

You're welcome

I find planning routes on my Mac very easy, and getting the routes to my phone a doddle. I does take a bit of getting used to if you’re new to the whole thing, but I’m sure you be up and riding in no time 👍

Thanks, hope it helps

Do you get out on TRF rides John?

Thanks, hope they''ll all be useful for you!

Being a member of the TRF and having access to the green road map makes it quite easy to plan routes, it's not the perfect solution but it works. I've just bought a Garmin Zumo XT and that is a right pain to plan and upload routes, certainly using Garmin's software, the OS map app is brilliant, very easy to use and has more uses than just biking. It only really works with Iphone tho, it's not as good on android, I bought an old iPhone 8 plus (first iPhone which is waterproof) to use on the bike and that has been the perfect solution thus far. Obviously riding with others is a good way to get around and find lanes or check new ones out, but it's nice to explore on your own sometimes, hope you've got enough info now to get out there - just message me if I can help with anything else. regards, Mike (from near Ipswich!)

No problem - thanks for the comment

Glad to help - thanks

No problem, happy adventures!

I was thinking of planning a little covert-camp this week, weather is looking great for it - shame you're still on that big GS!

@@twowheeledadventuresuk2739 I know… not for too much longer though hopefully…

Rodger - get ya leave pass in then!

The green road map is just brilliant, not the perfect solution, but it saves a lot of hassle. I haven't been out with the TRF yet (Norfolk) but hoping to this Christmas

Many thanks, appreciate the feedback

I do state they aren’t covered on the definitive map and should check with local authorities for clarification, have also added a link to finfmystreet for further reading/research which generally states who owns it and who is responsible for it . Thanks

*findmystreet

I had a TomTom and it wasn't too bad to upload routes, it just didn't like the off-road sections and didn't have off-road mapping. My phone hasn't let me down yet, I have bought another iPhone just to use with my bike so it doesnt matter if the camera brakes on it.

Great video all the same...thank you!

It depends on the map and the council, some do show TROs and some don't, in the video it clearly shows them on the Wiltshire website, Suffolk shows them on the map but I generally call them for clarification, always been helpful. Ive yet to come across a lane that has a TRO but doesnt have a sign at the end of it, but I'm sure there are some out there which aren't displayed.

Thanks - happy riding!

Yes in short but it depends on the status, so does it have a TRO etc. My local council has a phone number you can call and they've always been very helpful, it's always nice to talk to a real person. This is one of the best things about the TRF, the Green Road Map makes it very easy to see what is and isn't legal, defo worth the sub. Thanks for the comments, appreciate it

@@twowheeledadventuresuk2739 Cheers, just watching you on your Trans Anglia trip. Just goes to show there are plenty of trails if you look hard enough. Forgot to say thanks for saving me over £500, decided to leave the Garmin and use my old iPhone 7 instead. Cracking result 😂👍🏻

Not quite sure what you mean. You can upload gpx files from other devices, there’s a link in the description to the OS RU-vid tutorial on the desktop version and the app itself, that goes a bit more in-depth. I have basecamp because of my garmin on my push bike, but find it a twat to plot routes and the 1-50 just isn’t enough detail for me, and it’s expensive buying the maps with birdseye

Join the TRF, get access to the Green Road Map and then it's dead simple, legal routes all there on a map for England and Wales

On which app and phone?

@@twowheeledadventuresuk2739 on the o.s. App and my iPhone

I bought an android phone but it didn't work so well with the app so I bought a cheap Iphone 8 plus and that has been perfect. Defo better on iPhone, you can go into the setting and tell the display to never close so the screen is always running, not sure how it works on android.

no, it's always worked great for me - are you on android?

@@twowheeledadventuresuk2739 Thanks for your reply. I have a Huawei Y7 android phone. I have seen comments on OS user groups from other users who have had similar problems and I have tried the OS help desk but have not resolved it. Is there a new app now to go with the new desktop version OS have released?

@@normanhopkinson1296 not sure which version of the app it is, they update automatically. The desk top version was updated recently. I'm gonna test my new android phone today, but as I said, the OS version has been flawless for me, can't fault it.

@@twowheeledadventuresuk2739 Be interesting to see how you get on with the android. The way icons are displayed on your I phone certainly looks a bit different and features like reorientating the map direction by pressing the location button twice doesnt work on my phone and I dont see the compass icon appearing.

Obviously an NI issue. Are there byways and green lanes in NI? I know there aren’t any in the RoI. So looking forward to racing in the IOM this year, they’ve got some amazing lanes over there.

@@twowheeledadventuresuk2739 We are also arriving on the IoM on the 3rd for 7 days. The Green Lanes are already mapped on our GPS. I'm on a Guzzi V85TT, mates are on GS1250 & Tiger 900. BTW I got the Sub sorted. I chose France as my Country and it went though. Really odd since NI is within the UK just like Wales or Scotland.

The OS map app is available, still use it on every ride and it's still awesome!

They aren't really motorcyclists, they are just scrotes. You get bad people in all corners of society, even walkers do lots of damage in winter when they stray off the footpath to avoid puddles and damage the surrounding areas. But if the majority remain responsible the human race might just make it. For now.

@@twowheeledadventuresuk2739 I didn't know you were in my area on Saturday, I was walking on Sunday and saw your tyre tracks on the section between the tunnel and Shell Garage on Bluebell Hill and Lower Warren Road where the horse field is. This section is marked on the OS Explorer map as Byway, on Lower Warren Road it is signposted as Byway, but at the Shell garage it is signposted as a Bridleway. This is a bit weird so I'll have to let you off. The Byeway between the Shell Garage and Boxley has been permanently closed to motor vehicles, motorcyclists were cutting a deep groove in the chalk and making this ancient trackway difficult and dangerous for other users. Just behind the Shell Garage is the White Horse Stone a neolithic monument representing the centre and origins of Kent. The Byeway you took from the Shell Garage and the Byeway from the end of Lower Warren Road rarely get used by motorcyclists, occasional 4 wheel drivers like the challenge of that hill. Did you like the new bridge over the Medway North of Snodand? I take it you rode along the hardened section of the Pilgrims Way between Hollingourne and Harrietsham that I referred to in my previous post. You seem to like riding ancient trackways that have become long distance footpaths, the Byway sections are open to all traffic so you do not have a greater right of way than anyone else and your readers need to be aware that they cannot expect walkers to cling to fences and trees while they blast past (there are car drivers that do this on minor roads too). I hope you enjoyed your journey through Kent, you should have booked a chalet at Camber Sands on the Kent/Sussex border and gone to the beach, I saw you going past on the video.

@@richardpeel6056 something like 95% percent of the public rights of way network isn't open to motorised vehicles, so I always get a little disappointed when people try to tell those, that by law have a right to do, are somehow spoiling it for others whilst doing what they wish to do and that the taxes they pay pays for the repairs to the byways and unclassified roads that they use. I wish people wouldn't be so selfish and realise we have to share this tiny planet with others and sometimes the others wish to do something different and walkers already have the vast majority of the network all to themselves. I have a dog, I walk miles along public footpaths with him, see lots of evidence of other users on those paths because of their footprints and the dog mess they all leave and litter. Perhaps you should visit Kent CCs website and have a look at their definitive map which clearly shows which lanes in Kent are in fact byways open to all traffic and which are restricted, it makes it very easy to distinguish between right and wrong: webapps.kent.gov.uk/countrysideaccesscams/standardmap.aspx