Imagine wanting to hate someone for violating your family and yet to be denied that and only feel pity and sympathy. That's what both Matt and Julie feel!
Been there, My ex-wife...cheated when I was deployed, had the nerve to bring him around my daughter, he practically lived in my home when i couldn't do anything about it (neither would the Corp haha). A few days before I arrived home. He was killed in a motorcycle accident. Never even saw him, but had to watch my then wife cry about her boyfriend. Sometimes, it's not a straight line..that's why you can love someone, and still deeply hurt them. Love is weird. I was angry sure, but I didn't want that guy to lose his life. People always make mistakes, will continue to make them and ask for help to undo them. That's just life. "There is more power in offering forgiveness, than in forcing violence"
@@TrunkyDunks Dude...thank you for your service to the country. Sorry that your ex didn't honor the marriage, the home you built together, or herself enough to not go down that road. I saw a movie once where a man discovers his wife is having an affair. He is initially hurt and distances himself from her. He then asks her if she loves the other man. She initially offers the empty gesture of saying it was a thoughtless, selfish mistake, that it meant nothing. The husband patiently waits and asks if they did other stuff besides the physical. Eventually the wife admits that they went out on dates and did other "real" couple things. The husbands asks her again, "Do you love him and more importantly, does he love you?" Seeing the look on his wife's face, the husband says than it is MY DUTY as your husband to see that you're happy, and loved and cared for. He then takes his wife to the other man and says if you love her, and promise to take care of her, look out for her, be there for her every day and always.. and if she still wants you, you two should be together! The husband then walks away, lights a cigarette, takes one puff and puts it out. He throws the remainder of the pack in the garbage, gets in the car and drives away down a long, unfamiliar road, saying lets see what's down this way!
I'm sorry but 1:13 had me laughing, the way the camera just cuts from her crying introduction to a shot of Elizabeth with her mouth half open. They couldn't have filmed that better.
I haven't seen the movie. But isn't that kind of the point? Their lives are shattered by that woman and all they're left with is basically her unresponsive, grotesque corpse.
Forgiveness isn't easy. And like she did, sometimes you have to say you forgive someone a thousands times before you do. But it's not so they feel better it so that you feel better. God bless you all.
I had anger issues from the time I was three until I gave my life to Christ. Never once did it fuel me. It made me miserable, empty, lonely, and very exhausted. Trust me when I say I know what I'm talking about. When I forgave ppl and myself. I became happy. I smiled and laughed and allowed myself to enjoy my life that God has given me. Forgiveness always wins over hatred. Take it from someone who has lived on both ends.
@@mrbrown6896 And when the fuel burns out? You look back and see this huge mess that you made because of that hate, and you can't take any of it back. You hated and hurt for someone who didn't a damn about you. Forgiveness isn't about fuel. It's about starting new, being a better person. And then you have a better life or a better perspective in life.
@@junesmind7325 true. My friends always say that one of my flaws is that I can never hate a person, even if they "deserve" hatred, but they don't understand that, to me, hatred is just so... stressful, so annoying, so tiresome. When I'm in a state of hatred, I feel a certain sense of pressure to maintain this hatred, and being in that state is so mentally and emotionally draining to me, not to mention that it's one of the main reasons as to why people lose reason. I don't know about others, but to me, life is too short to be spent on hating someone. As for forgivness; forgive but don't forget.
Lesson to be learned: Forgiveness isn’t defeat. It’s actually self-empowerment, meant to show that you are strong. Reconciling with the person isn’t mandatory. Forgiveness sets you free from the weight they have on you, shows them that you are not going to let what they did drag you down.
I don't how you could forgive someone. If this were Neanderthal times she would of been clubbed. Adultery is against the law and should suffer consequences.
I think people are getting confused between Forgiveness and Accepting/Letting it go? Forgiveness is for the people who deserve it. If the person shows no remorse or improvement then they should not be rewarded with forgiveness. You can Accept something and let it go and move on.
I'm just saying save Forgiveness for the ones who are actually sorry and are working really hard to improve and earn that forgiveness. If not then why bother trying to show you are sorry?!
@@Kronos0999 I disagree if I found out someone I loved got drunk and cheated it was just a physical thing that’s one thing it would hurt but finding out that someone I love doesn’t love me back and loves someone else would hurt much more. Personally I feel like that’s more of a betrayal
Its bad either way, but if i got to choose i rather he love her, since that at least i know the guy has a reason to cheat and not doing it just out of spite, u know? Chosing to cheat on someone means that the person already choose to destroy his other relationship. Whether because they really love someone else or not, they still are destroying someones heart and family.
"I have to forgive you" Not because she likes her, or because she understands, or thinks she deserves it, or that Julie doesn't HATE Elizabeth with every fiber of her being; she's forgiving her because it's what's right for her, Julie. Because hate is a heavy thing to carry, it takes time to dissipate and even after decades that hate will be there, much smaller, almost unnoticeable. But in those quiet and dark moments it will flare up like a fire from the pits of hell, and all you can do is let it flow out of you so the fire doesn't burn you up because someone who tried to ruin your family doesn't deserve to take up anymore of your time, energy, or put anymore weight upon your soul.
This is bullshit. Her husband was as much involved in the cheating as her. Idk why she chose to live with her husband who cheated on her and didn't leave him. A cheater is a cheater. As much as she's angry at her she should be angry at her husband too.
@@Ish392s She did say she was angry, presumably at both of them, she also said that since his confession the things were crazy between him. Why she stayed with him? Because she still loved him, probably, some families manage to overcome this, don't judge them.
@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849 not judging her decision. There's no guarantee that such husbands wouldn't cheat on again. Cheating means, he/she technically doesn't like you anymore and prefers being with someone else. Your kids or family shouldn't be the reason for staying in a toxic relationship.
@@ashlynn1652 If you knew my mother, you would hate her just as much. I know because I used to follow the same philosophy. I actually tried to forgive my mom, but... I felt absolutely nothing after that, not even good. I am not trying to belittle you in any way, just noting that it won't work.
Well that's the knee jerk reaction of 99% of people when they first find out they've been cheated on, yea lol. But after a few days, weeks, years...eventually people just want to move past it and forgiveness is that first step.
The thing about not forgiving is it's toxic to you not the other party. It's like constantly holding on to the foulest smelling garbage & carrying it with you daily.
Yes seriously. Look what happened to Elizabeth. Would you want to be in her spot? Don’t forget Matt said he was going to pull the plug on her so she was going to die. You’re actually better off being in Judy greers shoes
judy greer is a phenomenal actress so deserving of an oscar nod. for this film, for "The Village", "13 Going on 30", "Tomorrowland", "Lemon", and most especially "Buffaloed"
Forgiveness is definitely not easy to do, that's what I had to do with my first son's dad, I found out he was seeing another woman behind my back for over a year and they were in love apparently, I was so angry and hurt, I yelled, I cried, I punched walls, I hurt myself, and everything else, that lasted a week when I realized I cant let them win and drag me down like this, so I told his mistress that I forgive her for what she did to me and my son, destroying our family and home, and I also told my sons dad that I forgive him to, both of them were suprised and shook about that, and from there I moved on with my life, and i found my husband a couple months later, who I have two more kids with, we have a large home, cars, and everything I dreamed of, sometimes you have to go through the worst before you get to your best!
Here’s the deal with this scene you should understand: she does NOT forgive her. But she wants to be the kind of person who could forgive her, especially since she’s in a coma, but she is extremely angry at her, which is clear by the way she starts screaming at her, and if George Clooney wasn’t in the room to kick her out she might have even slapped her. But she hates that she feels so much rage for this woman, so she’s pretending she doesn’t- that she can be over it, that she’s better than her. Honestly, it would be better for her to just admit to herself she hates this woman.
Forgiveness is like trust, earned, not given for small acts of kindness. In all fairness you can only forgive with time, intimate acts of kindness just re earns trust quicker if you cared
This performance is what caused people to start taking Judy more seriously as an actress (along with Mattew Lillard as Brian), from what I've read... Not that she ever was bad, IMO--who would have ever seen her playing Jamie Lee Curtis' daughter in the Halloween reboot, though?
So I guess I've watched too much Arrested Development lately because as Julie is forgiving Elizabeth, I seriously was expecting to hear as Julie lifts her own top up...."say goodbye to these, because it's the last time you'll be seeing these for awhile".
Alec Clark: I think "pobrecita" is the word you're looking for. Translated to English it means (you or the)"poor dear" or "poor thing." The Spanish word "pobre" means "poor" in English. The Spanish word "sita" means "site"(place.) Although it is not unheard of to see pobrecita spelled with an 's' in place of the 'c', it is rare and it is always one word. Sorry if that's TMI, Alec! Stay safe and be well!! ✌
You can forgive someone and also not be weak. Understanding the difference is a sign of good social IQ. Forgive a cheater but tell them you can't be with them..... not sure why people can't see this option.
An old man once told me... Son, forgiveness is the ultimate show of love. It's easy to hold your wife tight, tell her how good she looks, and love her like a mad dog in heat...It's another thing when she's betrayed you, when she put a knife in your heart and left you writhing in pain...That is when you tell her that you love her, that no matter the mistake, no matter how angry you are or how much you want go hurt her back, it doesn't compare to how much you love her.
@Zoran so you forgive her...But still punish her by leaving her. Yeah, that makes sense. Forgiveness is about understanding they made a mistake and trying to fix it with them. Just because she cheated once doesn't mean you should abandon her.
Yeah not for me bud, if that ever happened the relationship is done . I agree about forgiveness , but cheating is such a horrible act and very rarely can a healthy relationship prosper after.
Well... If there's anything this comment section has proven to me as an individual, is that if a single one of us were God...., none of us would be going to heaven. We wouldn't stand a chance of experiencing peace one day and after. It'd probably be like we never lived if everything was left in the hands of a human... who's unforgiving. Thanks everyone. Good thing we're not in charge.
You’re an idiot. The Disney movie is literally based off Disney movies. This movie is based on a book written by native Hawaiians about how white people are still trying to buy all the land in Hawaii for hotels
I haven't seen this movie, but I can't seem to find a scene where not each and every character on scene isn't violent, vulgar, pathetic ^ or bitter af. And the comment section if much the same. Is this gonna be like one of those white man movies?
@@Kharnellius Yes ,,, and I am still thinking about the scene of the oral kiss that was imprinted on the mouth of the respectful lady who hosted him until his wife came 🥴🥴
