The Diamondback Scout [Elite Dangerous] | The Pilot Reviews 

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@@ThePilot_ This is the EXACT reason why i watch every vid you put out. Even if i have my own opinions about a ship, it's good to hear how you see it!

@@cyberpunkzombie9461 i agree so much

The DBS is my favorite ship. It is agile in combat, runs cold, has great jump range, 4 utility slots, 4 weapon slots, and has a very modest price. Once it is engineered, it’s a very fun and versatile ship... you can easily get 600+ boost with 40+ Ly jump in the same build, while running good weapons and armor. It’s perfect for anyone who enjoys rail guns, and is hands down the best stealth craft in the game. I’ve taken this ship 20,000 Ly in one trip and never regretted it. I do agree it appeals to pilots who enjoy a challenge. There are better ships at combat, and better ships at exploration. But there is no small ship that balances combat and exploration as well as the DBS. You can get in this ship and do whatever you want...and mid trip you can change your mind and do something else. it’s the best small ship in the game when it comes to versatility.

the dbs is a combat ship. its not suited for anything but combat (well, except maybe smuggling) the dbx is a proper exploration ship

@@dreyone6156 and dbx is not a half bad fighter from what i've heard

@@mrexists5400 oh it’s not bad at all.

Just a bit... I'll put out an announcement when I do close out the list.

the dbx and dbs, although they share a common chassis, are two very different ships for two very different purposes

yes but good luck hitting a DBS from 6km away. It's hitbox is so small that if your aim is one pixel off you'll miss. Even though it can't take that many hits its amazing how long it can survive in fights against more powerful ships simply by virtue of its stealth and tiny hitbox

@@dreyone6156 Yes, range is a huge downside to this setup. Over 2km the damage drop off is so high, it's rarely worth the effort unless something is very squishy. I'm not too worried as with a controller I couldn't even hit a T10 at 6km away with rails.

@@LeadSkillets with long range railguns damage drop off is increased to max range (6km) there is no damage loss at that range whatsoever. You need grade 5 long range engineering and I recommend super penetrator experimental effect to destroy their modules easily

@@dreyone6156 My inability to hit at 6km is due to skill...

@@LeadSkillets practice a lot in the training simulator challenge scenarios it helps a lot. then its just a matter of compensating for the charge up time on the rails. i use a hotas so aiming it is tricky for me as well but as you use it more you improve over time

i think the DBX is a little better suited for exploration. While you can certainly explore in the DBS, it's really meant as a combat ship and not much else (besides smuggling). The DBX is the diamondback you want for exploration

yellow and black stripes and call it The Wasp xD

Go home, Eden. You're drunk!

@@ThePilot_ only a little..

its not bad in pvp too

there is nothing in this game that has better stealth than a dbs

Giyari i would gladly tell you that you suck and that I learned it t first week. ( which is true) but the fact that he tells that himself within a role play video makes me think he might have discovered it last week as well.

@@Farsightful I'm hazarding a guess that it's one of those things that's in the beginner tutorials that have been added since 2015? Either way, it's nice to know it's there

@@Farsightful Actually, I learned it from D2EA about a year and a half ago. :-)

"Meant to do" and what Elite Dangers players use them for are often very different things.

How many time to get in there?

The fact that you can do it really doesn't mean you should

@@ВладНеумный Truth. Of course I never did just because I could, but because I was a naive little welp back in those days.

I sometimes equip a smaller scoop, simply because I can gain a lot of exploration data on the FSS while scooping.

You just have to know how to do it

Sensor beam absorbing stealth plating for the hull? Increases heat build-up but, except at point-blank range, you appear on no scanners at all when in active configuration.

Theres the stealth mega ship hacking thing but yea, not much else.

@@DarthWall275 the courier is good what are you talking about

@@alratekk2631 What

Faker Hex jump range. Internal slots. Size.

Same here lol😆

This comment saved me from doing the same

the dbx is an actual exploration ship. the dbs is a combat ship for professionals

@@dreyone6156 I cannot for the life of me get a DBx-s to be a viable combat ship (without engineering) and I absolutely love my DBX.

git gud?

Kinda reminds me of a sort of Star Wars themed star ships, like a clone wars drop ship. I love the way it looks and is my personal pick over the asp explorer for example

It is an acquired taste

Laniakea2203 I agree. When I first got the game (three days ago), I thought maybe it wasn’t for me. But after just three days I feel like even just going into super cruise, even with super cruise assist, is fun for me. But I suppose we’ll see how it ages.

@@milesgilbertpiano how is it now?

Pixel Life Simulator still damn good lol.

@@milesgilbertpiano good glad. To hear what is the best thing you have unlocked yet

David vs goliath

oh my friend you have been using it wrong this whole time. trust me stealth build it and it becomes an unstoppable force. your enemies will be squinting trying to hit a 2 pixel grey dot on their screen while you hammer away at them with long rail railguns from 6km away. with the right outfitting it has effectively NO radar signature

just a friendly reminder that with the correct weapons you can basically 1-shot a prismatic shield by sniping their shield generator. You can use those torpedos or mines with that experiment effect to go through the shield. once their shield is down your dbs's railguns will insta-kill their modules, provided you can stay on target shield tanks are only strong when not facing opponents specifically outfitted to kill them

Icky yup, it works better like that but let s ruin it s advantage and put the meta weapon like a moron.

You guys are idjits. Great at running cool... So run high heat, high fucken damage guns.

thats the whole reason why the dbs is probably the best railgun platform in the game. it can fire railguns pretty much forever without overheating because it runs so cold. most other ships run into heat issues using railguns, but not the dbs

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they're pretty fun in pvp. not meta but alot of fun. I got a few vids using one on my channel against gankers

they don't completely ignore your heat signature. silent running prevents them from acquiring a missile lock (although it does not seem to break the lock of an already-fired missile), it will prevent them from scanning you and I think it also reduces their accuracy at range. I definitely have better results fighting NPC in my cold running DBS than I do with hotter ships. The lower heat sig does help. The NPC behavior just mimics that of most human players in PVP... they're still going to see you, just not able to target you with any gimballed weapons. They have to aim at you manually

Absolutely agree, I rely on youtubers to tell me what a ship's thermals are like. I caught myself using my DBX for combat instead of my vulture and was like, "why am I doing this...?" Subconsciously I had noticed how much easier combat is in a ship with amazing thermals.

@@boiledelephant Almost shocking to see an answer to an old comment that didn't get any traction :D Good to know people are still scouring through comments like I often do. Anyway: When it just comes to thermals, Engineering can make any ship cold. Clean tuned thrusters help a lot, and there is more than one way to deal with laser heat. The Vulture is such a monster when it comes to maneuverability that you're not really missing out much when using clean tuning compared to dirty tuning.

The entire point is to not get hit, though. And "durability" is pretty relative when we're talking about ships this small.

it can still hurt those bigger ships pretty good for a ship of its size/price, in the right hands

@@dreyone6156 it's a handicap though. I have a Krait Phantom which has roughly the same or slightly better speed and agility, much more armour and firepower and runs only slightly hotter (my stealth DBS runs at 14% heat when not boosting or shooting, my phantom runs at 15%). There is simply no advantage to the DBS, other ships can do everything better. The DBS will always have a special place in my heart, but it needs a buff to be a competitive choice

@@Coyleravane undoubtedly it requires a lot more skill to use, but it's better heat efficiency is it's strength. It might not completely balance it against the other ships, but in the hands of a skilled pilot and outfitted correctly, it still gives them a run for their money. I can get a dbs down to 10% heat when idle not cool running. Even colder if I turn off life support and some other modules that aren't needed in combat. That, combined with its smaller hit profile is it's advantage. It's probably the hardest ship to hit in combat in the game. Compared to the krait, which has a much larger hitbox and slightly worse heat efficiency, it has the advantage in being harder to hit. I actually like attacking ships like the krait because they have such a big hit box when attacking them from above or below. It's practically impossible to miss them with the DBS's railguns, even at range

@@dreyone6156 The hitbox is a valid point, but I don't think the heat is enough of an advantage. The krait phantom is only 1-2% hotter with a similar build., and can also be built to run below 10%. I have dirty drives on mine and it still runs at only 15%, and I can get it below 10% idle just by de-activating un-needed modules like my fuel scoop, AFMU, FSD interdictor etc. and with the larger powerplant and hardpoints I can run short range, thermal vent beam lasers and have my cockpit frosting over even in the middle of combat. I'm not saying it is unusable, but I don't think it has any advantages even close to outweighing its disadvantages any more. Before engineering, it had a real niche, with the best balance of speed and agility of all small ships, but ships like the viper and courier now get access to the enhanced performance thrusters which really gives them a big edge over the DBS, while the gulf in hitpoints and firepower to medium and large ships has only got bigger. IMO the DBS is now effectively a "challenge mode" ship, one you use because you want a challenge, not because it is the best ship for a particular playstyle.

@@Coyleravane It's still an extremely annoying ship to deal with for gankers running gimballed FDLs and mambas. Unless they go back to the station and rearm with emissives (which they will sometimes eventually do after I piss them off enough), they actually have a really hard time fighting the DBS. Certainly, against skilled pilots in larger ships (or just ships that are outfitted with emissives to counter the stealth) the DBS is at a pretty big disadvantage, but against your average seal-clubbing ganker who uses gimballed weapons and whose only kills ever are unarmed Asp Explorers who were landing at Farseer, the DBS is quite a menace They just sit there angrily trying to hit it with their gimballed multi cannons, beams and frags and only manage to do 5% hull damage every few minutes. It's pretty hilarious. The frags are probably the most dangerous out of those three since some of their spread will often still hit you even when successfully evading their fire, but the damage you take from only a portion of their "pellets" is quite low compared to a full volley. Aside from emissives and frags the only other weapons to really worry about are rails and missiles. Seekers and packhounds can really mess up your modules and take no skill to use, but simply toggling silent running throughout the fight is usually enough to deny them a target lock. Railguns are the biggest threat, and only when they're used by a skilled player with good aim (since they only come in fixed form) and hitting a DBS with them can be a lot easier said than done. A couple well placed railgun strikes will quickly destroy your power plant, however. TL;DR version: DBS is a great little counterganking ship as most gankers are not particularly skilled players and rely heavily on gimballed weapons to do the aiming for them. Gimbals cant lock onto a properly flown and outfitted DBS, unless they are also running emissives (which most of them are not, unless you piss them off a few times and they specifically equip them to counter your build)

stiimuli Could say little brother as DBS pre-dated DBX.

@@57thStIncident Really? I didn't know that. What a weird family XD

The DBS does not even attempt to be a DBX. It's not an exploration ship. The only things the DBX and DBS have in common is the chassis and the name "Diamondback." They're two completely different ships, built for two completely different purposes. Comparing a DBX to a DBS is like comparing an Asp Explorer to a Fer De Lance. The DBS is built for one thing and ONE THING ONLY: COMBAT

Will do, bud. Thank you!

I have no idea what you're talking about. ;-)

A middle ground?! Heresy!

The dbx is all of this, yeah. Budget is the only real reason to opt for the DBS I think. As Geist said, not sure why the DBS exists.

No. The DBX is slightly bigger, less manueverable and much less suited for combat. The DBS has a smaller hitbox, tighter handling and better heat efficiency. The DBX was never designed for combat, it was designed for exploration and if you use it for anything other than exploration, you're using it wrong. The DBS, on the other hand, was built specifically for combat from the outset, and it has never been anything other than a combat ship.

All those bounties I got in my DBX early on in my career must have been fictional then... "using it wrong" my ass

@@viperion_nz are you talking about npcs or players? anyone can kill npcs in any ship lol. I think the DBS will definitely outperform the DBX in PVP combat unless there's a significant skill gap in the DBX pilot's favor

I have a few vids on my channel showing what the DBS is good for

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I called the DBX the Cicada. 😄

also great for stealth pvp. as long as you dont run into emissives or skilled rail users lol

Exactly.

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