Nipper, the cop in this clip, was a celebrated detective who then became a famous boxing administrator. He was vice-president of the WBC and WBO and made plenty of money. He died a happy, fulfilled man at the age of 95 surrounded by family. Kray, the criminal, died alone, in prison, broke. He spent the last years of his life depressed and lonely. He tried to kill himself several times. That's the difference between them.
Too lazy to double check your comment, I’ll take your word for it. Leon Edwards the UFC fighter, his father apparently was a gang leader. Tried to leave that life behind and moved to a whole another country The UK. And his criminal life (Leon’s father) caught up to him in a whole different country and he still lost his life. What goes around comes around sooner or later I guess.
That’s not “cool” tho man. See, in society it’s “cool” to be a criminal. Not a person who enforces the law, cuz you work for “them.” Instead, work for yourself, constantly doing everything in the benefit of yourself, never giving to others. Never doing selfless acts, but instead selfish ones. That way the bed you’ve made of yourself is all you have when you die alone. Great propaganda to destroy the masses. Thank you for posting the truth about the two of them
That's just focusing on the last year's though. It's not how long you live but how good you live. Working for no one and with riches...now that's a good life.
There is a Robert de Niro movie, I think it is a Bronx Tale, when he tells a young man: " a real man is the one who gets up everyday and goes to work, that is a real man"
Sounds like you’re coping bro. You gotta learn how to be a monster and learn to control it. Then you can do good things because you want to not because that’s the only thing you can do, because of your fear and incompetence. You gotta learn how to be an angel and a devil at the same. BALANCE
@@AntonioMontana_7.5 when your a military for example your nice to law abiding citizens but when your city bomb by terrorist you have to unleashed the monster with in you you can be nice to terrorist 🎉🎉🎉
Cop work the the ruling class. Just look at the side cops take when you are on strike, or protesting the government for a wrong they committed. Maybe this is what he is saying.
As someone who spent (more like wasted) most of my late teens and twenties selling/using drugs I can say with experience being a criminal is nothing to be idolized. I made far more money selling drugs (a few thousand a week) than any job I worked, yet, I was the most miserable I’d ever been. I lost count of how many friends and acquaintances I lost to addiction and crime and continue to still. I’ve been clean since 2018 and can say wholeheartedly that making an honest living, even if it’s just barely getting me by, is a much more fulfilling way to live. These gangsters are not role models and should never be confused with such.
A former acquaintance of mine used to deal/use drugs, thought the thug life was so cool and that he was untouchable (for some reason). Anywho, we’re at a party and he shows up so we knew the party was ruined. Sure enough he starts a fight for who knows why, cops come, he gets put in the cuffs; while he’s sitting on the curb in cuffs, cussing out the cops and such and they’re asking us what happened, he picks a cop and spits on him and kicks his knee. The cop replied by busting his face with his stick. Broken jaw, zygomatic fracture, lost teeth, gashed open cheek, damaged eyeball, he picked the very wrong cop, and still went to jail. He straightened up a little after that. A little.
Same story here brother. Once you get that piece of mind it really is a clarity unlike any other I've ever felt in my short 35 years. Been clean and sober 4 years now. Keep up the good fight I have faith it will only get better.
Actually there is one coming out, it's about 1% OMG/C (outlaw motorcycle gang/club) outside of Chicago back in the 1960's & '70's (I believe), it's fictional but absolutely based on a true story... I forget the title off the top of my head but look it up, I'm sure you can find out all about it, and also I don't quite remember when the release date is, but yea
@@guyfawkes9792 I’m guessing he’s bi sexual. He mentioned on Jonathan Ross sometimes waking up in bed next to strange men after a drug fuelled night. He was clearly embarrassed.
People get so confused by the good vs. evil debate. There is nothing to be confused about. It’s incredibly simple: a man who is dedicated to humility, honesty, integrity, hard work, fidelity- he could convert and live the life of the criminal in a second. Beating, cheating, lying, faking… It’s not a complex craft. But the criminal, the drug dealer, the philanderer, the short-cutter… he could never, in a million years, convert and sustain the life of an honest man. “I could be you; you could NEVER be me”. Simple.
You must be talking about the cops when you say, intimidated, murdered and terrified the public right? If you say no, you have to be one of the most ignorant fucks in America, like the rest of them.
Thank you, this western culture of glorifying gangsters and looking down on police is absolutely disgusting. I don’t know why western movies push this image out, but this is what causes knife crime and kids to go into gangs when they watch this crap. In our cultures (Islamic cultures) we don’t have movies that push this type of message. We really respect police, they are there ultimately to help people. Now you know why London crime is so high (and same in many American cities), and in dubai and many Muslim cities you can literally relax because you won’t find any knife crime there gangs like this.
Thexkraysxlegacyviscshstvtheyvleftvbehind it’s called the firm. Which Reggie ran in behind the walks of broad moor psychiatric hospital which is more a prison. later by other firm members. Amazing the firm has out lasted so many gangs from the 60s themselves. They’re only more discreet now. Curious whose head of the firm now. 🤔
@@siriussaracen8371 You can get stoned to death for the crime of loving someone of the same gender as you in many muslim countries, or for daring to be a woman who doesn't wish to be a glorified sex slave. I really, REALLY wouldn't be holding them up as some paragons of virtue.
@@Zurie Except they were only talking about the attitude towards Law enforcement and not the moral fabric of said culture. You saw "Muslim" and them criticizing America and you just had to get defensive. Because you think, how can any sane human being possibly think that some majority Muslim country could possibly be better than the USA in any aspect imaginable? Were they wrong about American culture having glorified gangsters in media? Is there not a growing anti police sentiment in America? And gotta love the typical dumbass American response to any criticism they can't refute or debate. "durr atleast we dont do xyz..." Like that excuses anything.
@@combatking2433 "know your place" haha shut up, like the Crays would thank you for your RU-vid comment you little cretin, peel your lips off their ass cheeks. They were scummy, murdering lunatics. I like gangster movies too all the livelong day, but I don't defend a single one of the lowlives
What an insecured world we live in, glorifying gangs and thugs and calling people weak for taking the higher road of honest and hardworking ways. There is no bravery in being a criminal
People who think that, are ones who have never had to resourt to criminality to survive, or to even have a meal that day. Im not saying it is right, Im just saying the lot of you who think that way, have had the luxury of not ever HAVING to find out how wrong you are. Count your blessings.
@@grimcapo4390 Resorting to crime is one of the easiest way. Its like De Niro said in the Movie, a working man is the toughest. Preying on the weak is so much easier than having to earn your living honest ways, if you think being criminal is hard I seriously believe you still dont have a Job, get a Job an see how tough live is, living a honest life is tougher than you would Imagine, I am old enought to see that, I have lived 37yrs and I see no hardwork in crime and No honour in it, its always the lazy people who wants to make quick money the easier way putting themself above everyone else in the expense of others
Generous? Honor? You telling me, that if extort money from normal shop owners, some might just teetering on the edge trying to make a living, I'd be an honourable man?
"The difference between us is that you stopped criminals for a living and I exploited and intimidated innocent people for a living but I am venorated as a hero and you are somehow portrayed as the villain in my story".
If you actually know the story or even watched the film you’d know that neither were viewed as the heroes of the story, reggie was an angry man who drove his wife to suicide while Ron was a broken man who was left to his own devices, the whole story is a sad one and shows what that life drives you too
One prioritises reward over morality and the other chooses the righteous path knowing it will be a harder life. It’s easy to be a criminal, it’s hard to be a good human being.
Hell walk in room? More like walk past in the road or passed by in the market an still get SPAT ON!!!! even his wife left him from embarrassment about his JOB an employers
The difference is one man found a way instead of praising then improving the other he asks then destroys him. We destroy what we don’t understand that’s the pure essence of human.
Wish they didn’t show the cop losing his confidence so easily, he would have worked thru that argument already & had an answer … would have been a much better scene
Right? I don't hear that but he needs to be praised more for all the roles he's done...I don't know of any actor that could have played Reggie and Ronnie Kray so well that ppl legit thought it was two doff people, I'm sure that movie took forever to shoot...plus he was awesome in peaky blinders and was great at playing Bane and is responsible for banes voice sounding the way it did... Sad as it is to say, he's gonna be one of those that dosent get the praise and flowers he deserves until he's dead and gone and people.start googling his movies and they see all the famous people he has played as, fictional or not.
I think if he keeps this up for another decade he will undoubtedly be in the conversation. Greatest actor ever is a tough one cause everyone has their favorites but like rings in sports you gotta look at the stats and there are actors who have been doing it and putting out hits for 30-40 years still doing movies that are amazing. Tom Hardy is definitely better be of my favorite actors though. In Peeky Blinders, Batman, and doing a movie where your playing a set of twins has to be on a different level of greatness that’s for sure
Depends wherenyou grew up.. if it wasnt some fucked up area then the police wasnt as rough with poeple. If it was a rich areabthey were even nice and helpfull. For me, fuck em.
Despite the context of this video (this video not the movie), I think it's a good thing to be a cop and serve people with dignity than being a gangster.
@@grimcapo4390 where I live policeman is the job with the 2nd highest suicide rate. Because policemen barely earn more than minimal wage salary to put their lives in danger to protect ungrateful citizens (like you) who spit on them, the government doesn't respect them either and not only they are overworked and very understaffed, they are also severely lacking equipment, training and fundings in general Yet they still do it Kind of like school teachers you know, you need to sacrifice a great career for a low pay to teach ungrateful and uneducated kids some things they don't even listen to and have to withstand their stupid parents who don't respect you either.. you basically give a LOT and not only you receive absolutely nothing in return, but many people actively work to make your life a living hell and insult you on a daily basis Idk why you hate cops so much, I'm pretty sure you never once in your life even had to deal with them (like most people) but ehh you know that sheep mentality, that's what it is
Thank you, this western culture of glorifying gangsters and looking down on police is absolutely disgusting. I don’t know why western movies push this image out, but this is what causes knife crime and kids to go into gangs when they watch this crap. In our cultures (Islamic cultures) we don’t have movies that push this type of message. We really respect police, they are there ultimately to help people. Now you know why London crime is so high (and same in many American cities), and in dubai and many Muslim cities you can literally relax because you won’t find any knife crime there gangs like this.
@@siriussaracen8371 Even if you look at indian movies, pretty much all gangster movies have a terrible ending where the gangsters get killed. If you look at indian police movies, they always have a happy ending
Tom Hardy is a great actor. No doubt. Yet, in reality one will extort money from your dad, punish him if he resists as man should through your dad's love to his family. And another is the one who will get first to your house when in its in danger just cause you called 911 (or respectable number) without even expecting a "thank you". Thus, please, don't mix movie with reality. I'm afraid my kids will judge world by the movies. Aren't you?
