The Difference SHOCKED Us! Budget Suspension Upgrade Blind Test

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Want an Unbiased Suspension Review?? It's time to BLIND TEST 6 different sets of affordable suspension upgrade kits on our trusty Toyota Tacoma. We put the stock shocks, as well as 6 after-market suspension setups on the Tacoma and tested them back to back on the same terrain without knowing which shocks we were using.
Stock
OME Nitrochargers
Dobinsons IMS
Bilstein 5100
Eibach Stage 1
Westcott spacers
Fox 2.5 Race Series
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00:00 Introduction
02:05 Stock Baseline Test
04:35 Razor Burn Blind Test
12:57 Highway Blind Test
17:02 Whoop Bumps Blind Test
30:13 Infomercial
30:41 Final Reveal
38:20 Final Results
#shockvalue #bilstein #foxshocks #oldmanemu #dobinsons #eibach #suspension #review #overlanding #4x4

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@OverlandOutfitters 26 дней назад

If you enjoyed this series, we have our MID BUDGET blind test series coming out this summer! Don't forget to subscribe so you don't miss it! Bilstein 6112, Ironman Foam Cell Pro, Fox TRD Pro, Falcon, Elka 2.0, Eibach Pro, Dobinsons MRR.

@jatollar 26 дней назад

Spoiler alert Bilstein wins!

@jakeriffel 26 дней назад

You guys should add the MT64s

@jakeriffel 26 дней назад

You guys should add the MT64s in there

@dan0nym0us66 25 дней назад

🍿

@MexicanMarine04 25 дней назад

Yall need to do this with a 4Runner as well! It looks like you guys like the front OME front but the rear shock is terrible. Explains a lot in my 4Runner.

@TinkerersAdventure 27 дней назад

These guys doing god’s work for the community! I would never expect 5100 to be this much better because the hearsay on the forums was “they ride stiff especially with no added weight”. Maybe true for a different truck with a different valving? IDK. Now what do you think about the spacer vs stock. Was it similar or worse? Again, thank you guys so much for doing this!

@OverlandOutfitters 27 дней назад

I think a lot of people end up running 5100's with aftermarket coils that they are not valved for and add way too much lift/preload/spring force, then complain about the ride. The spacers were definitely worse than stock!

@WheelEveryWeekend 27 дней назад

Yup it's exactly the case that OO said, a majority are running them with "upgraded" coils which ruins them. 6112 are offered in a heavy load variant for the 4r at least which includes heavier rate coils and the valve stack is completely different.

@TinkerersAdventure 27 дней назад

Very nice. So much to learn!

@odysseyusa 27 дней назад

For my JLU with stock springs that I’m told will be softer than the big name, higher lifts, Metalcloak and Northridge 4x4 suggested them saying they will ride well with that spring/5100 considering my budget constraint.

@tsslaporte 27 дней назад

@@OverlandOutfitters it's like 10-20% spring rate change requires updating valving. There is little to no documentation on shock recommended spring rates.

@mz1906 27 дней назад

production quality was through the roof, not even bs'ing

@paulthompson661 27 дней назад

Man I love this series!!! Need more episodes need eibach2R vs 6112!!!!!! Keep it up

@OverlandOutfitters 27 дней назад

Thanks for your patience guys! Some technical difficulties delayed us, but it was still Friday in Hawaii! Hope you enjoy it, we worked our butts off this time around!

@wyattanker 27 дней назад

The shock collars had me dieing😂

@javik98k48 26 дней назад

Wish to have seen the fox 2.0 in this

@routeddown66 23 дня назад

Id like to see you guys go into more detail about the valving and spring rates. As well as discussing progressive and digressive valving if any of the coilovers were setup as such.

@OverlandOutfitters 23 дня назад

Get subscribed if you aren't already! We have deep dive videos on each setup coming out soon!

@Bananahammock88 27 дней назад

Holy crap! Did not expect that result! Good on Bilstein!!!!!!!

@MegaAlphatron 3 дня назад

As I am watching, the first thing I want to comment about is that I love that more and more car related channels are using the metric system 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 bravo

@mikebachar3276 25 дней назад

The guys testing the shocks and actually getting shocked at the end are great sports going through this! Great review and testing! Loved this episode!

@JayBirdPhotos 20 дней назад

Awesome video. Gives great testament to how much Toyota has done with their stock suspension on the TRD trim levels. For most people you may not even need to do any changes to have a good time offroad.

@Nafleming3603 27 дней назад

Incredible video guys. As everyone else is saying - the production quality of this video is absolutely top tier. Love y’all’s content!!

@genevicente 27 дней назад

Top notch work! Informative AND super hilarious. Really looking forward to the mid tier shootout w/ the 6112s.

@prrnrngr 27 дней назад

Love my 6112/5160 combo......

@alphaftw1642 18 дней назад

Have the same set up on 4th gen runner. Love em

@thedude828-ed2nn 17 дней назад

I'm on 5100s I really think I'm gonna go with the 6112 and 5160s next too. I love the 5100s though they have been awesome.

@lucacadianalbert 27 дней назад

I LOVE these tests...super rad. Please keep making these....

@NVLunarTaco 27 дней назад

This was awesome! Lots of work put into to this and was very insightful. Love how it was blind testing. 👍🏼

@TheNewps 26 дней назад

That was a great shock shootout. Keeping the testers from knowing which shock they were testing was a nice addition. Shock collars for the win!

@ericnexplore 27 дней назад

Thank you guys for your honest reviews. Love the collaboration between both side of the border 🇨🇦 🇺🇸👍🏻👍🏻

@vuemouam3r1 27 дней назад

Awesome job guys. Enjoyed this video very much. It was hilarious. 38 minute video didnt seem long at all with all the laughs. Keep up the good work. 😂👍

@07HDDriver 27 дней назад

Thanks so much for making this video dudes!

@lukerchabot 27 дней назад

Awesome show! Super informative and entertaining to watch.

@lukas6369 23 дня назад

Spring rate of each strut option would be great to know.

@NAR4RYNO 27 дней назад

Great show boys!! I wish the 6112 was thrown in there but maybe in the future? Either way keep up the great work 🤘🏼

@OverlandOutfitters 27 дней назад

Mid budget will include the 6112. Stay tuned!

@spencerwarholik2904 27 дней назад

Most excited for this! Can’t wait to see the mid budget, as I think the 6112 will do great

@TacomaJack09 27 дней назад

@@OverlandOutfitterscan you throw in the Ironman Foam cells into that test as well??

@WheelEveryWeekend 27 дней назад

@@TacomaJack09 they were included in that test

@wilson3246 27 дней назад

@@OverlandOutfitters Any estimate on when the mid budget video will be released? I imagine it takes a lot of work and time since you guys have to remove, install, remove, install, etc the shocks which can't be easy. No rush, I just love these comparison videos and am stoked for the 6112 since those are what I have on my taco. Also, pls bring back the shock collars 😈

@albetherechillin 27 дней назад

Thank you this looked like so much fun. ❤❤❤

@peter6528 23 дня назад

This is what we needed thank you

@anotherplebeian 27 дней назад

I'd like to see the best of budget, mid and high go up against the highest of the high. Which may be your eventual plan, anyway. Something like ADS, fox elite etc

@danthesik 27 дней назад

Appreciate the freedom unit conversion. Thanks!

@OscarOverlanding 27 дней назад

That was awesome! Thank you!!!!

@AntonioClaudioMichael 21 день назад

I have always been impressed with Bilstein have had them on dozens of vehicles for 10 plus years Never Exspected them to be close to fox 2.5 on some of the test i am impressed that Bilstein is on top 30:06 @Overland Outfitters

@PolyPerformance 24 дня назад

Love this series, keep it up guys! Would love to see ADS in a future test too!!

@RajivSewnarain 25 дней назад

this video came in clutch as i was looking to buy one of these shocks for my truck this week

@SirEmoSushi 23 дня назад

I love this series. I think as an improvement you could have a grading system to be more precise than just ranking. Like score 1-5 based on a couple categories. 2 being stock, 1 worse than stock, 5 way better than stock.

@RealeaD 22 дня назад

Thought the same

@tac4bravo 24 дня назад

The ending was amazing 😂

@kylemartinez5154 9 дней назад

This video was pretty amazing. Nice job!

@erikschutzman2402 25 дней назад

Great video, thank you for the content.

@tpharo34 27 дней назад

This is quality work 👍

@justinvanbibber6234 27 дней назад

The fact that test 1 and 4 were so similar even after Ian massaged number 4 is insane given the price difference. Great video y'all, improvement in every way over season 1. For S3 I'd like to see blind footwear reviews too, my money is on the flip flobsters.

@WheelEveryWeekend 27 дней назад

To be fair, i only drilled 1 bleed hole. I was gonna make a video where i slowly fix them... those foxes now have the actual race series piston and much better valving and the text i got from the customer was its the best riding setup hes ever experienced. Fox has a great product, but bad valving.

@joshlindstedt440 26 дней назад

This was epic!😂😂amazing video guys

@fredgarvin7033 26 дней назад

I'm dying here with the shocks. BTW the best testing I have seen and i have tried a few and just went with Bilstein res on my Gladiator .

@kevinburt1026 27 дней назад

Hahaha, love the video! keep it up guys! Surprised the 5100s did so well!

@filiberto599 День назад

Very methodical yet fun test, I'm now subscribed to be on the lookout for the mid-grade test!

@spankbanksportfishing 27 дней назад

the most entertaining video yall have ever put out hahaha 😭

@nickgal1366 27 дней назад

this is pure gold!

@4WDisLife 25 дней назад

One of the best suspension contents on the internet period. I now know I will stick to my tacomas stock suspension and when needed, upgrade to the 5100s thank you!

@reallife3096 9 дней назад

lolol

@frothycarapace969 2 дня назад

Im happy to hear/see this vid. Makes me feel awesome about the 5100s I have sitting here waiting to go on my first gen tundra. Cant wait!

@AntonioClaudioMichael 21 день назад

Holy crap at Whoops section with the jump on Setup 6 thst got Squirrely real Quick 28:40 @Overland Outfitters

@MrCayer12 24 дня назад

Great video! What coils are you running with the Bilstein 5100 shocks ?

@ieism1 18 дней назад

Good unbiased test, I love it

@kuudeta 2 дня назад

This is like the grown up version of singing into a fan at home lol. Hearing you guys talk while flying down that washerboard road was funny

@Sjackson2369 25 дней назад

This just reinforces my choice in the 5100s for my vehicles.

@speedegg6170 27 дней назад

Love the feedback on the shocks, the screaming, fake eyebrows, and shock collars 😂

@AntonioClaudioMichael 22 дня назад

😂😂 love the Intro warning guys to hilarious may contain Shock and Suspension 0:01 @Overland Outfitters

@dbronco2032 15 дней назад

THIS IS HANDS DOWN MY NEW FAV YT VIDEO! Holy hell these guys are great! I want to get a new suspension just to hang out with these dudes. Sooo funny - SUB’d

@BadDrivers101 26 дней назад

After reading other reviews on the 5100s I put a set on my GX with a set of sumo springs for bump stops. I would definitely recommend the setup to anyone looking to lift theirs.

@1augustub1 27 дней назад

1 Minute in and I’m loving it!

@JCod306 27 дней назад

Great video boys… that was worth the watch and the knowledge! 😂

@JCod306 27 дней назад

What springs were on the 5100s?

@WheelEveryWeekend 27 дней назад

@@JCod306 stock springs, "upgraded springs" would have made them lose this shootout

@JCod306 27 дней назад

Ok, I only ask because I am going to get some for my 1st gen Sequoia but I was considering getting some Dobinson Springs. So are you saying I should stick with the stock Sequoia springs?

@mstrawn77 24 дня назад

That was some quality entertainment.

@Prison_Mike_38 27 дней назад

Love the 5100s on my 2nd gen Tacoma. I have them on the factory setting and added ToyTec coils for the lift. ToyTec coils feel like an overall improvement. Seems to have improved travel and big bumps feel a little softer.

@MrJcjet 26 дней назад

This is super useful for a lot of buyers!!! I've had the fox 2.5s and was not impressed until I had them revealed. They should be better out of the box. Weirdly the fox 2.0s we're quite good and plush feeling on my Tundra, but very harsh on a 4Runner. It's like the vehicle formula they're using for the midsize segment is based on a 3000kg vehicle. Thanks again!! Great content.

@Kung.Pao.Kitty. 27 дней назад

I watched last year's video. Stellar! This is the one I was waiting for. EPIC!!!! Would love to hear the rebuttal from Jeff. 🧐

@westcottdesigns 22 дня назад

If you are asking me? It’s not a far assessment. It would be one thing to test our preload collar and other spacer lifts on the stock strut but other struts that are designed to perform better than the OEM strut out of the box. The OEM TRD off-road strut is 1.5” diameter is smaller by a 1/2” from all the other stuff tested. So a fair test would to be use the stock strut with our preload collar and all the other lifts that work with it and then compare. Let’s make an apples to apples comparison. Like comparing a tacoma with a naturally aspirated 4 cylinder and a 6 cylinder--would you expect that they both accelerate the same?

@rajsteint6487 25 дней назад

Buy once and cry once. I bought Kings stage 4A from AccuTune and zero regrets. If you can afford it then getr done. If you can't then you will still have fun with lower quality ones don't worry. I had fun with my stock bilstein 4600s on Tacoma TRD Off road

@gabboGABBOGABBOOO 8 дней назад

How much of a lift did that give? I'm looking for a similar set up for my 4runner

@rajsteint6487 8 дней назад

@@gabboGABBOGABBOOO with 2.75 is what they recommend with 33s it ends up being 3 Inch lift

@jtnord 2 дня назад

This top notch infotainment, subbed

@fouUili684 25 дней назад

thank you for doing this, very informative and no one else seems to be doing it. although it wont be apples to apples, I would love to see yall take a fully built long travel rig vs the highest level of mid travel setup rig (shocks or dual front shocks or 3.0's with bypasses, different springs you get the picture) one can do before venturing into long travel territory and put them side by side driving through whoops and same sections.

@thedude828-ed2nn 17 дней назад

I got bilstein 5100s on my truck with coils from all dogs off-road and they have been great i hear a lot of people hating on them but they do the job on and off road very well for me. And i do wheel them hard quite a bit and ive been nothing but impressed especially with the the price too.

@theroadahead415 24 дня назад

I wanna see the fox 2.5 performance elite shocks with the dsc adjusted to your settings! I’m running those on my taco and I love them.

@xujedy1740 27 дней назад

best youtube series out there, please keep this up, what a duo!

@reallife3096 9 дней назад

lololololol

@PrimerBravo 9 дней назад

Awesome video! Had the 6112 on my 4runner and leaning towards that setup on my GX460, any updates on when that video will be coming out, super pumped to see it!

@DooleyCreativeCo 2 дня назад

I was laughing so hard during this... and it was SO helpful! Thanks guys!

@AndrewG2.0 26 дней назад

Would like to see the Ironman foam cell pros on here. Awesome work!

@B-kl8vj 27 дней назад

Great job! Would be great to see the Fox TrdPro bypass shocks in a future test of more expensive shocks.

@OverlandOutfitters 27 дней назад

Coming soon 😉🫡

@ryansmith7974 27 дней назад

Im curious as well, but ive got the Tundra version that Ive had serviced but havent installed yet.

@kodepop 27 дней назад

I went from a spacer lift on stock Hitachi's to the Eibachs, and the difference is incredible. I'm a little bummed they weren't considered as good as the Bilsteins though. One day I hope to try super expensive shocks for a comparison.

@SLOzack 23 дня назад

Had those on my 4Runner and seemed like the springs just needed to break in a little bit.

@RealeaD 22 дня назад

Fantastic shock show! Can't wait the Mid Tier comparison show. When doing Mid Tier comparison, please indicate which setting/groove you put them in. Or, is it even possible to try different settings on the same shocks? As an example, after so much research through RU-vid and forums, my understanding is Bilstein 6112 and Eibach Pro stiffness changes quite a lot depending on groove you set them in. Thanks so much.

@alltheboost8016 15 дней назад

Awesome video! I’m curious, what tire pressure were you all running? And tire size? I’m new to off road shenanigans, so just trying to learn.

@davidromero6335 27 дней назад

Wow such different results than my own. The Dobinsons are way more plush than any Bilsteins i have ran on my 18 Tacoma. They didn’t say how much preload they were running or what position on the circlips which plays a big part.

@MrSatchelpack 25 дней назад

Yea I was so confused by this. Dobinsons are by and large more preferred over 5100s for their relative plushness.

@tac4bravo 24 дня назад

I have Dobinsons IMS on my 4Runner and in all aspects huge improvement over the factory XREAS suspension imo, on and off road. Less body roll, not too firm, off road I feel planted, I do mostly beach driving, the beach can be rough in terms of terrain, not all smooth sand many dips and precious tire tracks.

@rossipremier 23 дня назад

That's a bizarre result for dobs, did they spec the wrong springs and/or preload them way too much?

@matthewzuniga111 27 дней назад

Me: Buys Bilstein 5100's for my 2nd gen yesterday... @OverlandOutfitters: Today we release Shock value season 2...

@jatollar 26 дней назад

Haha, I bought mine from Ian litterally the day before they started the testing. I think he let me wait until he was done and said they're good to go.

@RWiltz-pw2vu 23 дня назад

Loved the video! Did you guys use the stock rear leaf springs for all the shocks? One thing to consider is that some of the aftermarket shocks (I.E. OME) may be valved assuming they will be paired with the corresponding leaf springs. That could potentially explain the sketchiness of the OME rear shocks if they are tuned with excessive rebound dampening when paired with the stock leafs.

@thedude828-ed2nn 17 дней назад

They said they just threw on add a leafs.

@gx-dan6310 27 дней назад

thank for this! big fan! enjoyed it. why was the 6112 not included?

@OverlandOutfitters 27 дней назад

They will be part of our mid budget series. Stay tuned!

@sawyerheslep8493 27 дней назад

@@OverlandOutfitters will you do the 5160s in the rear in junction with the 6112s?

@rajeezle1 27 дней назад

Awesome!!

@DrivesPH 19 дней назад

Respect, good video

@StevePesh91 10 дней назад

Awesome doing the testing on the 3rd gen saweet

@laithalmas8413 26 дней назад

Would have loved to have seen the stock TRD Pro Fox suspension in the mix here. Great video!

@OverlandOutfitters 25 дней назад

coming up in the mid budget shootout! get subscribed if you aren't!

@IBRAKEFORBEDROCK 16 дней назад

Well done guys ! I know it was a lot of work .....I have eibach stage 1 on my 24 4runner. small bump compliance on road isnt to good . Higher speed small bump off road is much better

@AntonioClaudioMichael 21 день назад

Would of love to see the bilstein 5100 vs the 6120 in this testing 37:55 @Overland Outfitters

@AntonioClaudioMichael 21 день назад

Bet this is one heck of a shocking experience 😂😂 to hilarious at the end 34:47 @Overland Outfitters

@ominecaoutdoors 26 дней назад

So you say you have the 33" guessing 285/70r17 Falcon Wildpeaks on here with the Billy 5100s. What is the lift height front and back and did you use stock coils up front and leafs in rear? What wheel offset?

@Wildfyr3 27 дней назад

The whoops test is hilarious to listen to without any video.

@justinbradford4538 25 дней назад

Would love to see a review of some ADS shocks ive had 5100s and Elka 2.0s the ADS blow them out of the water. ADS and Radflos in the next one please!

@TheFraziers 27 дней назад

What springs were paired with the 5100s?

@jatollar 26 дней назад

Ian said stock springs above.

@shawnmadden4966 23 дня назад

The suspension chicken is amazing! lol

@TonyNguyen-fp9ds 19 дней назад

Can you guys test the Dobinsons IMS (their second tier up from the basic set up)? There’s lots of praise for those but not so much data! 🙏🏽

@morganyoung146 26 дней назад

It wasn't mentioned in the video I think but we're all the same spring rates used and we're they all the same as the stock rate? It looks like aftermarket springs were used on each shock but would nice to confirm that. Thanks! Great series to watch!

@jatollar 26 дней назад

I think each comes with the factory recommended spring. I know that Bilstein tests and configures for each vehicle they have a kit for.

@rmsfootball63 24 дня назад

I know this is the budget test, but I think a lot of us want a fox 2.5 pes, king 2.5, dobinson mrr, new ride shocks, icon with resi and have them tuned for the Tacoma if people you would buy from offer that (ex: accutune). Also would be interesting to see these with various lbs of weight added as well.

@OverlandOutfitters 24 дня назад

We did a higher budget test last year with king, fox, icon, elka and bilstein, but we'd be down to do it again if there's enough stoke on this video and our mid budget one coming up!

@rmsfootball63 24 дня назад

@@OverlandOutfitters tuning is the important part!

@christopherb449 3 дня назад

Can’t wait for the video with the Dobinsons MRR, considering adjustable suspensions how much time will be spent adjusting LSC, HSC, and dampening prior to testing?

@ra64mike29 18 дней назад

Very surprised on the Dobinson's. Coming from the Eibach stage 2R that rode absolutely terrible (put 20k miles on this setup) going to the Dobinson's MRR's. The MRR's ride so smooth on road and off. I know comparing a $1400 setup to a $3k setup isn't fair, but to be fair I have rode in a couple 6112/5160 setups which rode 100 times better than the 2R setup. If I would've went with the 6112/5160's in the first place, I do not believe I would've bought the mrr's. Thank you for what you guys do!

@scholotzkys395 11 дней назад

Do you like the ride of the 6112 over the MMR? I’m having this debate on a 460

@ra64mike29 11 дней назад

@@scholotzkys395 Definitely prefer the mrr's over the 6112's.

@RealeaD 22 дня назад

Did you remove front stabilizer bar on this comparison like you did in the previous video last year? If so, do you find driving without stabilizer bar like this quite doable/ok?

@TheWeissenheimer 9 дней назад

This was a really great video. I went to Dobinsons IMS from 5100s a year ago and have been very disappointed. Funny to see these guys have the SAME driving reactions I had because I’ve been wondering if it’s just me. For the money I spent I was not expecting such a harsh ride. I am surprised their final rating put Dobinsons in 3rd because based on their driving tests it looked really bad!