The Disappearance of the Eastern Germans 

A lot of people do not realise that there were dozens of thousands of Germans that were not expelled for that exact reason. They had a prove that they were not supporting the Nazis and they were semi assimilated. Meanwhile there were also far too many that were supportive of Nazis. So you had ethnic conflicts where a nation of people lost a war where the goal was to exterminate or enslave the majority groups ethnicity in a given region. Population was scattered across countries. The hate and grieve CES of the war, combined with destruction would likely led to balkan-like conflict between the Slavic people and the Germans. Even just during the expulsion there were many individuals acts of such violence. But also, the WW2 was not the first instance. Poland on its own was partitioned 3 times and 3 times the argument was that Germans resided there.... so after such mass conflict happened they expelled Germans out. Was it kind? No. Yet between a never ending ethnic conflict and unstable region... between a complete potential for a German genocide... the expulsion was the least conflict-filled action one could have taken towards stability

Mega ciekawe

Mine was the same except name change, her sisters moved to Hamburg

Very similar story with my great-grandparents. My great grandpa was Wehrmaht soilder from Ostpreussen (not volunterilly of course, when the war started he was 40 years old) and fight in eastern front. Before the war ended he became Soviet prison of war. Some time after the war he was transported to Berlin and relased with other german soilders, but decided to come back home to check what happened to his familly. Luckily his wife and children was still there. They stayed in Poland, in now Masuria, until his death in 1960. They already had polish surname but had to change their names to sound more polish (great grandfather Willi was renamed as Wacław, my grandpa Ulrich was renamed as Julian, his sister Ebeltraud was Małgorzata etc.). All of his children was young when war started and they grew up in Poland, graduated polish schools and spoke polish (my grandpa don't even know german at all). Since 70s majority of my great-grandpa children (and theirs families) migrated to West Germany an aquired citizenship, eventually even his widow did the same. Only child that stayed in Poland was my grandpa.

my family did not even have to change their names i asked my mom if the poles told my family to leave and she said the polish communists said you can stay but if you want to leave we wont stop you pretty descent attitude, now compare it to the choices the germans gave the poles and jews As an American I think the germans are rotten people

U lose a war, this is the outcome

@@danrook5757 what a despicable comment. if that's your mindset, i hope you lose a war one day c:

A. Rx : obviously u know nothing if that’s what u post. Read some books.

@@danrook5757 "read books" which ones?

@@danrook5757 it’s one thing to not approve of the doctrine of the Nazis and the harm and destruction they caused but to do the same upon people just because they share a common ethnicity is disgusting fuck you honestly

OMG thanks for sharing

​@@gRs3jVan26SBJ Its not ukraines fault its the soviets fault

​@Scandanavian Ukrainian communists participated in the mass expulsion of Poles from modern day Belarus and Western Ukraine, not only Russian communists, Belarusian communists, Kazakh communists, and partisans etc... those are all called in one word Soviets. So Ukrainian communists participated in colonizing and exterminating Poles from Galicia ( west Ukraine) and Belarus and because of that those territories are Ukrainian and Belarusian land respectively 1

Except it wasn't imperialism. Both Germans and Poles naturally migrated further eastwards, and mixed in with people who were already there.

And that's a good thing

No it's Gothic

@Alex Chelu neumerker is his lastname. Attila is his first name

@Alex Chelu but why? It doesnt make sense. Family name is only lastname 😶

@@attilalukacs9602 Attila is turkic name

@Alex C again Attila is turkic name

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If you are in some country speaking your own language then you are a foreigner and you should not expect the same rights as the natives who also have the responsibility for defending that country If you love being German so much then go back to Germany

What village?

Tough

@@Userius1 dont start a war dont try to genocide whole ethnic/religious groups of people and you wont have to bitch and moan on youtube decades later simple now try to get that thru a thick krauts head impossible

Yeah my family has a similar story, they came back to Germany around 1990

Half my family were Danube-Schwaben and managed the survive the Russian purges in the east, they fled after the wall fell. A lot of sad stories from those times..

Massaman is wrong: Germans never migrated to Siberia but suffered deportation under Stalin in this region. The easternmost settlements were in the Caucasus region and in the Ural mountains.

@@rudolfkraffzick642 Where does he say Germans migrated to Siberia? He talks about them being "scattered across Siberia", which is not exactly the word choice for peaceful migration.

Haha take it Russians can hate germany for what they did.

And it's also a good thing that it's over.

ethnic diversity is strength

@DanRage47 It's not because Whites are Nazis and Africans are superior. It's just that people tend to migrate, they have done it for thousands, even millions of years. That's not bad, that's just the way it is. Nothing's constant.

From what I can see, less Germans (less diversity) = more security

@@nirad8026 Indeed

volga germans suffered greatly but still survive.

You should take a Y-dna test

@@thricecrazy33 Very strong people

Why would you want to live in another country and not assimilate? If you are so nuts about being German then stay in Germany I dont think the Poles, Czechs and Russians were begging you to come. In America Germans assimilated and there are no problems here. You people create a bad situation then whine about it. As an American I dont get it

@@youarewrong5523 As a woman she cant but the name is obviously slavic not that any of that matters to anyone

Not entirely correct. Nearly all died in the first half year of 1945. Also according to official history around 2 million of the 12 million Germans living east of the current German borders died.

@@roodborstkalf9664 what was the cause of death

many causes, but mostly murder, but also starvation, extremely cold weather during their flight, being caught up in fighting between Soviet and German troops, also allied bombing and mining of ships in the Baltic, and for those sent there, being worked to death with little food in the Gulag, mostly in Siberia.

@@roodborstkalf9664 so fucking horrid. Imagine all those people around the world at this time grabbing worktools instead of weapons. How our world would look like then. WTF is wrong with mankind.

Make it 2.5 Million.

That’s honestly a brilliant summary

German borders changed after WW2. Pomerania, Silesia and Prussia were inside German borders before.

He's a dumbass. Borders did shift, although not that drastically.

@CipiRipi00 Sure not that drastically, though for me as German it had big effects. Many Germans have at least one grandparent coming from the former eastern provinces or the former German settled parts of Bohemia. So as a German of my generation you grew up with stories about their old homelands, where they could never return to.

except in the Balkans, where people were moved by agreement

My grandmother's family has a similar story. They were the so-called Donauschaben. She emigrated to Uruguay after Trianon, where I live now. We still speak German. My sons too.

Not enough reparations.

My mother from Werschetz, just across the border from Romania was one of them.

@@patriciabrenner9216 Spoken like a true lover of mankind. It's people like you who sheepishly swallow war propaganda and make the next one inevitable.

@@patriciabrenner9216Your're a rightous one, I see, they were civilians and didn't deserve any of that.

Liebling, that's a cute village name. Means "Darling" in English

John Fox Maybe the beginning of the NWO.

My grand parents were from Konigsberg/ kaliningrad

Im from Serbia, i know for a german minority there, they came within the time of Austria-Hungary. They were expelled by communist regime because they cooporated with SS division. Im sorry for your grandparents, not all Germans cooporated with SS but big majority did. And of course they had not been in Concentration camps. By the way, my country is giving back the property of german famillies to their descendants, so if you want, you can get it back. Cheers!

I wonder if they were Nazis. Ask them if they collaborated with Nazi Germany against the local population. How many they shot or send to the concentration camps. Just ask and let us know.

@@lukei6255 nope, now the West controls the Balkans and we can see that, Turkey is concentrated on Asia where it actually belongs

Hungarian Germans are a very important part of German ethnic history. Germans settled along side the banks of the ancient lake "Balaton", (Plattensee), and were known to the Ancient Romans!

There are still pockets of Germans in both countries to this day.

Why were there so many Germans in Czechoslovakia?

they had mercy over her, when germans knocked to the door of poles the poles had no time.

@@borzmir9326 When the polish "liberation" army came prussians didnt even heard a knocking, just mass shootings and mass rapings ... and the worst was to come in the form of the red Army wich pushed the polish "liberation" army in front of them, wich extended the mass rapings and killings even further. Those polish wich were anti jewish starting with the polish anti jew movement in 1920 (even before Hitler thought about it) were cheering when the German army marched in and took care of the jews and now when they had the chance of expansion to the times of polish medival expansion they didnt waste a single second to exterminate those wich they cheered on years before. Story isnt as black and white as you were clearly thaught to think it were.

​@@borzmir9326 BS.

​@@rorikkbluetoothh5773No BS, same thing in Serbia. Still, I'm not justifying the expulsion.

We are always forgotten because the world thinks that is just another hispanic mestizo country but that is not really the case

@I HATE TOUCANS That is true, but not in the case of many of us who are of germanic, slavic, nordic, etc ancestry. most of latin america nations are mostly mestizos with the exception of south brazil uruguay and most of argentina. It is notisable that the image that the world has about SA is the US depiction of the mexicans who are mostly mestizos.

@@ivanadiego6067 La imagen que da Estados Unidos sobre Latinoamérica es porque así son realmente los Latinos que ellos conocen y que están cercanos a ellos Argentina, Chile y Uruguay son una excepción en Latinoamérica.

My great grandfather was a German Jew originally from Odessa he migrated to Argentina in the 20shence my surename is Stein aguante 🇦🇷

@@ivanadiego6067 maradona is a meztizo

And then the Romanians surrendered.

Just wanna point out that the Kaiser and King Ferdinand were both Hohenzollerns, yes, but brothers, no.

True, and I don't know where from Massaman pulled out this falsehood, there is no source for this allegation. In Transilvania Germans were farmers, kraftsmen and merchands, landlords were Hungarians and some assimilated Romanians from the nobility pre-existing Hungarian invasion and succesive expansion, such as Hunyad, Banfy, Dragfy, Kendefy and others.

Consider WW1 a family feud that got out of control:-) Europe in general was mostly ruled by a handful of families which were more or less related to each other. Using us, their respective populations as expendable pawns in their own dick contest. Anyone refusing to be that pawn, was considered unpatriotic and a coward.

What do you mean sold?????

Ceausescu regime got 10.000 DM for each German they allowed to leave..it even got higher with time /euronews.com/2014/08/01/trading-germans-a-secret-cold-war-trade-in-human-beings/ , they where expert in this as from Israel they got around 15.000 for each Jew they allowed to leave to Israel.

Only Romania sold its german citizens. Other countries forced out a lot of them. In the other hand for example in Hungary the german ethnic group counts more than 150 thousand people.

nigga did someone written the opposite? read my post again...

about 1 million germans died between 1945-1947 due to forced relocation. Notably, after ww2.

Yeah because transilvanya was under austrian dominion for hundreds of years

@@bubulolo207 the german presence there was (mostly) because of hungary. The hungarian kings invited german settlers to transsylvania-Siebenbürgen in the 12/13th century

@@dilemma8550 oh yeah i learned fromt that un sibiu, i forgot. German colonizers, super interesting

@@bubulolo207 when have you been to sibiu-hermannstadt?

@@dilemma8550 like 1 week ago, why?

so true.

Interesting point of wiew. Basically I agre, but watch any western movie. Revenge is the ultimate justice.

bleh - consider such TWO situations in occupied Poland of WW2: 1. in 1939 German Nazists created so called General Gouvernement which in first time was NOT to include city of Lodz, fairly Polish-Jewish city at the time with just minor German population. Lodz NEVER was part of 'Deutsch Vaterland' so it's understandable. However local Lodz Germans INSISTED on detaching Lodz from GG and putting it to territory of Wartheland which was destined for total Germanization. Those volksdeutsches had collaborated with Nazists in expulsion of local Polish people for they could OWN those Polish homes, farms etc. Even today in Poland the word 'volksdeutsch' is very insulting word for 'f*cking s*n-of-be*ches, who are aspiring to be Germans, but use criminal methods against Polish'. 2. German minority in Poland was widely used by Nazists even before WW2 - similarly was in Czechia. Those Germans, sometimes even pretending to be Polish (just to fool Polish administration), gathered proscription lists of important local Polish patriots, policemen etc. - - those Polish people WERE MURDERED in first days of WW2 after German Nazists invaded. Additionally, German minority in Poland was widely used by Nazists for inteligence purposes, partizan fighting against Polish army, police etc. So now, can you explain me how it was possible for Poland, Czechia, Russia etc. to keep such ILLOYAL German minority in own territories???

So true, it's disgusting.

Ratatosk, why don't you grow a pair and say what's really on your mind.

Warum haben Sie die Deutsche in Kyrgistan überrascht? Alle Deutschen wurden nach Erlass von Stalins vom 28.08.1941 zwangsumgesiedelt nach Sibirien,Каsachstsn, Kyrgistan.Einige sind noch da geblieben, aber die Meisten Deutschen sind in den 90-Jahren nach Deutschland gegangen.

I think you don't know what a nazi is

@@longlivepoland6400 i fixed it and changed it to nazi's or German ultranationalists

Look closely: The region is coloured in a light shade of red, noting that the region wasn‘t entirely German. P.S.: Nationalism is probably the rarest political ideology here in Germany (thank god!).

@@scanida5070 he also colored areas that were majority German back then (eg east Prussia) that colour, so it’s still misleading

Oh, yeah. Germans came out to Australia post-war. I knew a kid in school for some brief time, a couple of years late primary, maybe into secondary, also, who was of a specifically German extraction. First name Herbie. Nice kid, not in my year. Close to being first through 2nd generation. One of the Wanda Beach victims - poor thing - 1st through 2nd generation German. But, all that being said, it was a real hellava lot more Italians, and Greeks, and Poles, even Indians, and others from wierd places which I couldn't specify.

sounds very interesting

It's simple, pre Islamic Arabs were a pagan sparsely populated with a Jewish elite who ruled them. The Saudi dynasty come from that elite

@@paultremblay4836 it's not simple because pre-islamic arabs had many kingdoms like nabataean kingdom and sheba ,not all arabs were paganist there's used to be chirstian, jewish and zoroastrian arabs

You're fucking cool! Hope there will be more people like you in the future. :)

@@intuendaecivilization9365 thx

They have been peaceful joining eastern europe since Polish kings decided to increase population in XIII century .. but since they turned hostile sińce XV century with teuton knights then prussia they must be removed from that territory with force

Karma is a bitch. Not to mention that Poland will never be threatened now.

Ethnic Germans in Central Europe overwhelmingly supported Hitler and committed crimes against Slavic and Jewish populations during WW2. In Czechoslovakia and Danzig Nazis were getting more than 50% of German vote. I think in Czechoslovakia it was 75%. There was also a forced Germanization of Slavs for centuries.

And now they are being removed from Germany

It's Genocide.

Nice try. First you conquer Pomerania, Silesia, West and East Prussia and massacre or assimilate it's native inhabitants and then you cry on the deportation after the failed attempt to genocide entire nations. Leave the history to historians and live fully at the present days

My family comes from east pomerania but they needet to migrate to todays east germany (this happened somowhat after ww2) People often don't know how evil the polish where after ww2!

@@aeuropeannotbritish7754 The Mothers part of my Family had lived in Königsberg for centuries but after WW2 they were forcefully expelled by the Russians, from what i remember from stories that were told in my family, when my Mothers family was expelled from their Home on their way to Germany proper they were constantly insulted by the polish people who called them Nazis, German Devils and many more insults, for my family it was always important to make clear that what the polish did to the German’s who now lived in polish Territory was both Ethnic Cleansing and Genocide.

@@Wilhelm322 yes i agree the polish are evil

Yeah people should be talking about this more, rather than focusing on people like the Amerindians and Palestinians.

fuck Prussia

*Cries in ethnic cleansing

Original Prussians were not German but Baltic

Y-you good bro..? **BECAUSE I AIN'T**

@Robert B. Shut your mouth. Goths came around the 200s before migrating south. First they came from Scandinavia.

​@Robert B. No. Most historians know that their exact origins are hard to pinpoint. However, it is believed they originated with the Geats, moved from there to Gothiscandza in now northern Poland, and then proceeded to move on toward Roman territories. The point is that regardless, they have nothing to do with ancient Prussians, who were Baltic tribes! You Germans complain about Poles "stealing" things yet then do the same to everyone else. Goths are overrated anyway. Slavs had a much more significant migration history. Read Procopius. Thank you for sharing that tidbit though. Nice to know that some sad boomer loser has nothing better to do than whine like a sad cunt.

Yep, something seemed weird when he said it and now i know why. It's an honest easy to make error most wont notice so no biggie.

"Fifth column" is actually a reference to the Spanish Civil War, which hadn't happened yet in the time mentioned by the presenter of the video. If I remember correctly, four columns of Franco's troops were approaching one of the major Spanish cities that was still under Republican control. Newspapers fretted that four enemy columns were approaching and Franco loyalists said that there was a fifth column as well; this fifth column was the people keen on seeing Franco in power within the city who would aid the approaching columns to overcome the Republican defenses.

How could you know all these things?

@@Soul-co7ki Families share stories, good sir.

Mine were from Crimea and Kherson, hello fellow Ukrainian German!

We, Poles, see it as very fortunate. The truth is that a thousand years ago Germany didn't even have "east Germany", which was a land of western Slavs. Germany later on conquered and germanized those Slavic tribes that used to live there. There are still remnants of the Serbołużyczanie that speak their Slavic language. Germans still owe Slavs a bunch of land, Stalin reclaimed only half of it.

@@jancyraniak4739 there is a very rich history of german/slavic conflict...as far as poles are concerned...id say this: ww2 was started because poland was invaded by Germany. Poland had existed for 21 years at that point...previously Germany for hundreds of years, honestly...thousand year claims to land sound biblical...and ridiculous...the people living in the region now called Poland were German mostly,l...until they were ethnically cleansed, but hey I'm glad Poland got their nation back, its just unfortunate that they sold out their best ally in Germany to do so. Isnt it funny how Poland a slavic state...was conquered by a Russian led military coalition and 80% of the polish Lithuanian commonwealth was absorbed by Russia...then about 100 years later Russia steps in to defend the sovereignty of Serbia because "we are the great protectors of the slavic race!"....meanwhile Poland lol...this is what historical whitewashed propaganda looks like!

@@ericgulick2749 "Poland had existed for 21 years at that point...previously Germany for hundreds of years" Not exactly. Kingdom of Poland existed the entire time in personal union with the Russian Empire. Also, that part of Poland that had been during the partitions taken by Prussia, including Greater Poland, was Prussian for only about 120 years, while the Slavic Pomerania and Silesia have been in German hands for ~800 years. "I'm glad Poland got their nation back, its just unfortunate that they sold out their best ally in Germany to do so." You mean 1918? Not sure what you mean by "ally", as Piłsudski tried to cooperate with Germans but they proved to be too controlling for his taste, which just showed him there is no good will on their part (they jailed him for not wanting to swear obedience to Kaiser). Not sure either what you mean by "sold", Germans wanted to keep Wielkopolska, the Greater Poland, which is where Polish nationality began. That's why we made an uprising in 1918 to be included in the rest of reborn Poland, my great grandfather fought in it. "Isnt it funny how Poland a slavic state...was conquered by a Russian led military coalition" ...that included Prussia, which basically means nowadays Germany. Germany was not an ally to us, but an occupier. "then about 100 years later Russia steps in to defend the sovereignty of Serbia because "we are the great protectors of the slavic race!"....meanwhile Poland lol..." Meanwhile Piłsudski's Poles fought alongside the German and Austro-Hungarian armies against the Russians, what lol? They promised us a sovereign state after the war, but during it we realised that it was an empty promise. Not like the British and French care more about us, but at least they are far away and can't exploit us.

@@jancyraniak4739 all fair points to be sure! When I say sold out the germans I mean very clearly this: 1 nation was willing to give up territory for a free an independent poland...nomatter how independent it actually was...Germany made it out of german soil in 1916, by 1918...Poland signed a deal with France and great Brittain that gave roughly 40 to 50% of german territory pre 1914 to Poland! Hadnt been on a map in 130ish years?!? Then what do the poles do in 1919? Start ethnically cleansing germans from 40% of their previous territory. Yeah...no $hi# conflict broke out between those 2 nations by 1939! Poland is not blameless, nor is the USSR, of course Germany is as well but they already get 99% of the blame...nothing new to talk about there. I've heard the forest slaughtering of polish officers was carried out by the soviets and blamed on the germans, any truth to that? I have no idea but its interesting Ww2 started as a border war, Germany wanted to reunify after being carved up and passed around like an apple pie in 1918. Poland was the biggest benefactor of Germanys defeat in 1918...and they were on the same team! Isnt that odd? I understand german Poland and post war Poland are 2 different things...im trying to point that specific thing out.

​@@ericgulick2749 Wait, are you blaming us for kicking out invaders? Don't you know how hard Germany tried to colonize and germanize Polish lands that it took in the partitions? It was hell. Germans asked for resistance. Wonder why there is no such dislike in Poland towards Austrians? I'll tell you why: because they let Poles in their partition have Polish schools and Polish culture, that's why. Till now we remember the Austrian occupiers as benevolent, while German ones as tyrants. Yes, Katyń massacre was done by Soviets, discovered by Germans and blamed on the Germans by Soviets. Poles knew the truth all along, we never blamed Germans (except our commie government, but even they knew the truth). "Poland was the biggest benefactor of Germanys defeat in 1918...and they were on the same team!" Then it shouldn't bother Germans that their friends retreived from them the lands that Germans immoraly occupied :) Germans carved up Poland and then they got offended when Poland recreated herself from those carved-up lands? Yes, that's German attitude. The victim is guilty, because of trying to stand up xD Btw. just the same it should not bother us Poles that Lithuanians got Vilnius and Ukrainians got Lviv. Yet there are those in our nations who do. There are Germans who long for Polish lands of Pomerania and Silesia and there are Poles who long for Lithuanian and Ukrainian lands. All of it is a relic of both Germany and Poland pushing eastwards for centuries. Thank God Stalin pushed us closer to starting positions.

Silesian Uprising rings a bell?

nanabijou62 I like your profile picture

My family was from Breslau and i visit this town in 2005 , i enjoy it , and its good the german and poles now start working together and my friends from Graveland also come from Breslau , we work hard to gain some respect between poles and germans ...

Mario Pöhland There will be no more wars between us.We’re now too dependent on each other.

Polen ist Preussen

Love to Abyssinia from an Arab

I agree a very good source he is.

The Atheist Arab Much love back to you as well!

Anti Antifa I concur for I too personally find his channel stunning and soothing to watch.

@said wahb alshar'abi Lol!!! Please clarify. My understanding is all the Sabeans left Yemen and settled in north Ethiopia for security reasons. Ive seen the old Sabean writings in Ethiopia.

You could. Idk what's stopping you now. Poland is no longer under a communist regime aligned with the USSR.

Same, my great grandparents on both sides moved to Canada right before WWI from East Prussia/Ukraine not too sure (Minus my maternal grandma's parents, they were Irish).

you' re not welcome

I am full ethnic German, and you have my full sympathies - what the poles committed against millions of Germans is just too despicable! They murdered my Mother's friend's father, and two of my uncle's and their families, were expelled at gun point from West Prussia - so was our friend, Norbert - they stole his family home, land, and greenhouses, and murdered his father! Long live the Prussians, and long live the German peoples!

@@lottivonhesse9382 you murdered many mother's friends' fathers,germans,trying to sound like victims

@@lottivonhesse9382one day amigo. One day.

@@lottivonhesse9382 Deal with turks and arabs in your own homeland first.

@@lottivonhesse9382 now the right wing is coming back to live in germany. I’ve seen some news in Poland trying to polarise the society that Germany want silesia becouse we stole it from them. I personaly think that we all did some nasty things which we shouldnt forgot both Russia, Prussia, Austria and Poland. Do you think that it will escalate eventualy with all this propaganda and building everyone against each other to something more than just hate in near future?

Szervusz :)

You guys were lucky, my grandmother and her family were on the Yugoslav side of the border and got locked into camps for a few years before they managed to get to the US

moinsen

They all should be expelled. Nazi crap.

@@tompeled6193 your a nazi

Were you born in Kazakhstan? Were your parents born in Kazakhstan? Are you half German half Korean?

They're german jews you dumb

@@robertrobski1013I didn't know the Hannoverians intermarried with their jewish population, I mean the jews did that with many german aristocratic families (guess they were broke and needed some dough) but can you give me a source that of all these families the Hannoverians were part of that too?

If you can be bothered to put in the correct possessive apostrophe, the one denoting the missing 'g' and to beak the sentence into two clauses, why not do it properly in the first place? You obviously know how to do it correctly!

Fuk this on food crisis betting goldmansachs queen , bettter to loose Rheincastel to the fanks than to the brits xD

Yes, it was the Electorate of Hanover or Brunswick-Luneburg it is lower Saxony, it seems according to his map the British after World War II regained lower Saxony for awhile.

It was probably Swobisch, which is a German dialect.

Most people don't want to know our stories.

@@dieterbarkhoff1328 how strange ,did something happen around the 30s ans 40s by any chance?

You say many in ND are Germans from Russia. What is ND? Greetings from Austria (they also speak German here).

@@isaakasimov2456 north dakota i guess 90%

Even Eastern Bavaria has heavy slavic population, which was germanised over the centuries. It’s called Bavaria Slavica I believe.

That was waaaaay back in medieval times, Ivan. Wanna talk about the early germanic tribes like the vandals who resided in the area of Krakow way before the slavs settled there? 😂😂

​@@anonymous-hz2un I'd rather talk about why most German towns have names of Slavic or Gallic origin.

@@buoazej nobody cares. Half of your country was german territory stolen away and given to you by Stalin. No amount of mental gymnastics will change that. Get over it 😉

​@@anonymous-hz2unSure let's talk😂. The Vandals that you just mentioned weren't only Germans Lmfao, Vandals same like many other groups/tribes were combined/mixed of various ethnicities. For example the Goths had Slavic people amongs them, the Vandals also very likely have had various non Germanic tribes amongst them. Remember that cultures like the Lusathian culture and Pomeranian culture are Slavic cultures that must've had an ancestoe native to the lands. In short Slavs always inhabited the Slavic lands of East Germany and Central/Eastern Europe wheter you want to admit it or not. Heck even the Scandinavian ethnonym for us "Vinden" means friend meaning that we must've lived here for quite a long time since otherwise why would oue northern neighbours call/consider us their friends?

As for polish territories you can discuss it but if you you want to do it properly you need to show the whole picture. And this picture is super depressing for germans and maybe that is why it is omitted. From 800s new settler waves of germans pushed east often with untolerant, discriminative policies. You can read contemporary german sources to get an image of systematic bias against polabians and poles for centuries even under polish sovereign rule. How did your ancestors came to warthegau (you use nazi name for the region), a territory predominantly polish in 18th century? 19th century was a continuous period of land expulsion, disowning, cultural discrimination and resettling of poor german tenants from the german interior onto polish land. This division you created cost you territory, millions of dead compatriots and a immense hatred of eastern europeans. You don't teach this in schools because your imaginative candy sweet stories of peaceful germans in the east has got 0% validity and everyone can find proof easily. So you choose to forget it

@Ateistyczna Prawica : It is a lot different here in Germany than it is in Poland you know. You have history books with a Polish point of view, where you defend what you do think is right and try to let your people look the best way possible, which also is the normal way to portray your own nation in a healthy country. We in Germany on the other side only have self hating history books, which only show our bad sides and nearly never show the wrongdoings we had to endure ourselves. It is also forbidden to defend some parts of our history in our own country, which leads one to think, why it is that way. I can't write it here, but I think a lot of people will know what I mean. There are similiar situations in the US right now. I know how cruel it was bringing christianity to the Slavic world, but we had the same happening to us before. Charlemagne slaughtered 4000 Saxons in one day in Verden in the name of Christendom, because they did not want to convert. It is not a Nazi name, don't approach me with such nonsense we already have enough of in Germany. It is a German name for it, it means landscape near the Warta. My Pomeranian ancestors lived there for centurys and also had names that clearly sounded slavic, especially the Kashubian ancestors had them. My ancestors from the Warthegau were requested from the Polish government as Hauländer to make the land arable in what is now Wielkopolski. You may know some towns with the a part of their name beeing holendry, this is a remnant of the history of those towns and villages. They did intermarry with Poles and through them I have some distant Polish ancestors, too. My greatgrandfather and his brothers from there first had to fight for the Poles and after that for Germany. He even spoke Polish and German. His brothers both fell in Russia and he survived. What you are writing there is not true and you also seem to have no clue how a German history book looks like.

@Ateistyczna Prawica We are here to learn. The best way is by cleaning your own house first, which you should acknowledge Beauregard did. My ethnic Polish ancestors had property confiscated by Soviet officials after WWII. Decades later the Soviets were "kicked out", but rather than embracing capitalism the replacement was domestic socialism. Back during WWII Sweden, my country of birth, was highly supportive of the Nazi regime and persecuted those that would criticize it. Indeed this fact is hidden from public education to this day. We all have skeletons in our closet. I'm glad that today the Polish people are woken up to the silent occupation by Muslims and are setting an example for the rest of Europe. You on the other hand seem more interested in demonizing your peaceful neighbor who has payed reparations to you for the last 70+ years.

Poles remember what the HRE did to our brethren tribes, Polabians and Sorbians, on modern day German soil. You took over their settlements and replaced them with Germans, yet the Slavic toponyms are still there. Did you know that Berlin comes from Slavic birl/barl, which means Swamp? Sorbians still exist but their number is dwindling because they're forced to assimilate into German society. Polabian was spoken until the 18th century in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. On the other hand, Polish kings invited German settlers to help build cities because the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was a multi-ethnic state and very liberal and tolerant at a time were most countries in Europe weren't. We simply could not afford to be racist. We still even have our own native Muslim population, the Lipka Tatars but they are a part of our society because they were always loyal to us. Some of our nobles came originally from Lithuania or Ruthenia like Radziwiłł or Potocki. Even German settlers assimilated into our society. But the partitions forced us to become xenophobic. The Polish-German started to deteriorate when the PLC was partitioned. Prussia pursued very racist policies against Polish (or other Slavic tribes like Kashubians) or anything non-German with the "Kulturkampf" by expelling them and replace them with Germans, forbade to speak Polish in schools and other institutions by law and that way some became "Germans" over the centuries even if they ethnically aren't Germanic. WW2 was just the icing on the cake. Austria, despite being also German-speaking, were much more tolerant in comparison to Prussia, which is why most Poles don't hate Austrians. Germans nationalist have a hard time to accept or embrace their non-Germanic roots. They don't want to accept that even their capital was originally Slavic or other cities in East Germany that end with -nitz, -itz, -ow and -in. I have nothing against Germans but I'm pissed when they say "Wrocław (Breslau) was always a German city!" which is simply not true. That's like saying Istanbul was always a Turkish city!

@Slüwonsťě Ťėnąʒ And Gdansk used to have a German name, Danzig. So what?

@peter schwarz propably not resistance from the reichswehr and alt right groups would be big

It's Opole and Kaliningrad. Stop using Nazi names for occupied territories.

​@@tompeled6193 "nazi name" lmao.

@@tompeled6193 dude what ?

@@tompeled6193 nazi names?

Wilamowice settlers came from the Netherlands .

Tadeusz Karcz - :-) anyway, there are many toponyms of German origin there in mountainious areas as Limanowa, Szaflary etc.

Wilamowice is in the Silesian section, Limanowa and Szaflary are in Podhale, what is the connection? I also wasn't aware that those two towns had German toponyms, although I'm living in the US now in the typical Goral diaspora area *cough* Illinois. Family is from Ludzmierz. From what I learned German influence in Podhale is actually very minor. It's mainly Polish with strong Wlach influence from medieval migrations that lead to shepherding profession.

User - Wilamowice are in historical region of Lesser Poland; Modern Polish voivodships are often only barely matching those historical regions. Anyway, Wilamowice and Podhale are today one of the most Polish places in Poland, however some toponyms suggest rather Germanic immigration in one point of history. I am not much aware what toponyms are really German except few cases - - anyway the toponym 'Wilamowice' IS VERY Polish toponym with suffix '-owice' being very typical pathronimic suffix in Slavic countries. And non-Slavic names are very common in Poland even today; eg. in my family you can find names of Latin, German, Jewish, Slavic, Greek etc. origin. - only issue which connects the names is that all of them ARE used in Catholic calendar of saint people or in other way are connected to western Christiandom.

Didn't know that about Opole Germans. I've always assumed they were some hardcore Germans who wanted to stay, it never really occured to me that hey were just let to stay because of their "Polishness"/"Slavicness". Claims to Opole region before WW2 weren't so unfounded after all.

Right

Like?

Are you talking about the Sorbs in Lusatia? Because apart from that there aren't any.

*In the Federal Republic of Germany that is

@@naturlicheweltordnung2609 The polabian slavs in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern and Brandenburg, the Sorbs in Sachsen and Brandenburg. They are all slavs.

Correct!

@King Of ELLADA only German

@King Of ELLADA Queen Elena had as much Greek blood as Michael I had Romanian: 100% German-Danish-Russian

@King Of ELLADA Phanariotes were not kings, nor did Romania exist back then. Kings begin with Charles I

@King Of ELLADA Romanovs are mot Greeks. Thei'r last Greek ancestors were in the 13th century, and trough German houses.

@tiglath pileser His ethnicity is German, not nationality. He was born in Romania, raised in Romania and when 99% of Romanian Germans decided to leave Romania for Germany he decided to stay.

@tiglath pileser We elected him for what was inside of his head. I don't why we should've cared that his grand-grand--grand-grand-grand-grand-grandfather came in these lands from Saxony.

@tiglath pileser The fact that he chose to stay here when 99% of Germans decided to leave speaks for itself. And btw, from where did you got that conspiracy theory ?

@tiglath pileser The Transylvanian Saxons for example didn't allied with the Nazis. And btw, Klaus' actions as president speak for himself. If you want I can introduce you to Romanian politics and then you can make a image of our president, but I warn you, it will be a long ride. The Romanian politics are some of world's most complicated.

@tiglath pileser are you a bot?

A dobro ne priča srpski

LOL fuck off racist punk

Sorry but how can expect him to pronunce that crap correctly.

Im not a native speaker of English my native language is dutch i can't pronunce the word thought correctly i have recently challenged my self to learn all major languages in the world i started with romance languages and i can already understand Spanish Portuguese and italian and Romanian after 1 year but then i tried Russian and it was fucked up its going to take over 10 years to learn that its almost as different from dutch as Chinese.

@betarage Are you kidding? Russian is the easiest slavic language.

The map @ 7' 54" is extremely misleading. All that red within Polish borders is bad info. Germs were scattered in those areas, They were never the predominant Ethnic group. Except the city of Danzig, 98%. Areas such as Pomorze, Poznan, Slansk, Southern OstpreuBen - were majority Polish People 55% - 85% +. Germs lived mostly in towns, [forts lol].

I guess your Grandfather's Grandmother was a Masovian woman, ethnical Slavic-Polish and cultural-identitarian Prussian-German

The plural of "Panzer" stays "Panzer".

They went searching for army group center 😂

Nobody gives a fuck about Persia, you are in a wrong comment section Iranian N*tionalist

Says a guy who actually has a Veterans day and his government spends more in the military than all other countries combined, and who watches movies about people shooting themselves on a daily basis.....Americans and friends are so peaceful and loving in some contexts though, like this one!

They're still alive and well, and they have autonomy from the Italians. Bolzano, the capital of South Tyrol, is mostly known as Bozen, its German name.

@tiglath pileser. And that was.....? Please let us know!

@tiglath pileser It wasn't and isn't a shame. Stalin was a murderous tyrant, and Benes was a Germanophobic communist sympathiser.

@tiglath pileser Benes was a left-leaning politician. The coat of arms of his political party even resembled the communist hammer and sickle. I will admit that he wasn't really a communist. I never even said he was. Communist sympathiser does not equate to being a communist. And now I understand who you really are. A neo-Stalinist who thinks that torture, mass murder, deportation, and conquest are heroic. You're just as bad as a neo-Nazi. Stalin had no sympathy at all for humanity. He even said so himself. And besides, you really have to get rid of that stupid collective punishment/revenge mentality that's pretty rampant amongst Czechs and other related ethnic groups. Deportation/expulsion does not create peace. By that logic, Generalplan Ost would have created peace if it had happened. The only reason there was even any form of "peace" in Central and Eastern Europe is because Stalin installed various puppet governments in the territories occupied by the Red Army, which were forced to unite and be subservient to their Soviet overlords. And the Eastern Bloc was a political war zone for its people, which wanted to be free from Soviet domination. Yugoslavia is proof that war can still happen. The German ethnic boundaries were definitely nowhere near as messy as the Yugoslav ones. The Soviets were not peaceful. Don't forget how they divided Poland up with the Nazis. And they actually kept their share after the war, pushing Poland westwards into German territory. That barely even makes any logical sense. That's why Stalin is to blame for this vile ethnic cleansing. He was a greedy and hypocritical imperialist. You're using the term "colonisers". It's interesting how you have not mentioned Russia's rampant colonisation at all. And the Germans lived there for several centuries, far longer than the Russians have been living in Siberia. Even if the Germans (along with some other ethnic groups in other parts of Europe) were allowed to stay, there would still be peace. The United Nations had been formed after WWII to maintain international peace, and Germany had already realised the full horrors of the Nazi regime, with the concentration camps. Besides, the Nazis never even managed to get half of the vote in any free and fair German election, so not that many people supported their policies of mass extermination. The Germans had lived there in peace for centuries before WWII, and the remaining minorities still live in peace. Deporting them for being a certain ethnicity doesn't sound that much different to the Holocaust, where people were killed for being a certain ethnolinguistic group. Most of them did not care too much for the Nazis, and some were even openly against them. The ethnic situation in the former Yugoslavia is much more of a real problem, where there are disputes everywhere. Meanwhile, the German ethnic area has always been more solid and neater. The only major territorial dispute was West Prussia, and even then, compromises were made between Germany and Poland (until the Nazis showed up, obviously).

@tiglath pileser Peace? Millions of Poles, Germans and other European were killed in the process and you are happy about it? Be ashamed, nobody regardless of heritage did deserve this.

Many slavs also left the now german lands after the battle on the Raxxa

I totally agree

Only 8 million Germans died. And most of that is military casualities made by the German offensive against the Soviet Union. It's mathematically impossible to have 5 million dead just to expulsions as Germany was heavily bomber by the allies from the west

Timeline of Gdańsk Historical affiliations Duchy of Poland 997-1025 Kingdom of Poland 1025-1227 Duchy of Pomerelia 1227-1282 Kingdom of Poland 1282-1308 Teutonic Order 1308-1410 Kingdom of Poland 1410-1411 Teutonic Order 1411-1454 Kingdom of Poland 1454-1569 Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth 1569-1793 Kingdom of Prussia 1793-1807 Free City of Danzig 1807-1814 Kingdom of Prussia 1814-1871 German Empire 1871-1918 Weimar Germany 1918-1920 Free City of Danzig 1920-1939 Nazi Germany 1939-1945 People's Republic of Poland 1945-1989 Republic of Poland 1989-present

Well, Gdańsk was Polish for most of its history.

The crux of the issue is that large numbers of Germans have historically lived in other political entities in large numbers. Gdańsk had a large to predominant German element since at least the 1400s...while being loyal Polish subjects.

As an Arab I love to see that

Thank you bro

Yes pls this

Descendants of Genghis Khan

@Zantic Trant He never said Islam and it's effects, he said pre-Islamic Turkic peoples.

Will u continue the blitzkrieg series?

@Mysterious Stranger He is Bulgarian, so am I. We say it like "Voivodina"/"Voĭvodina" the pronounciation is the same. I guess the name of the state comes from the word ''voevoda" (that's how we say it in Bulgaria) but if you are Serbian you might be saying it "vojevoda" we just removed the ''j''.

In serbian we say Voyvodina, he might have used the Hungarian pronunciation

@@oaka5639 Vajdasag in Hungarian

Try and pronounce “Scheveningen”.

Peter Mages the Dutch aren’t exactly ethnically german. However, the Swiss are.

@@JtAudio but there cultures are closly related and aren the french geneticly the same as germany?

Apophis40K then it becomes an issue of language, the Swiss speak Swiss German which is at least similar enough to understand it.

@@JtAudio well this is in general a realy gray area kind thing becaus the north german language (yes its considered a different language i do not know why) is much closer to dutch (they can speak with little problem to each other most of the time) then to swiss german, austrian german or bavarian. Becaus of the quiet diverce natior of germany (beeing a lot of different nation and all that) this kinda stuff is hard to tell. And culturely the czech are quiet similer the only realy hard border culturly is with france (beeing enemys for so long and that kinda thing)

Apophis40K I see. Thank you!

Serbian names.

@@user-hb4fc8be2w Slavic (polish like) names...roughly speaking... Of course Serbs (Serbo-Łużyczanie) are still there...but more to the south...

@@robertwisniewski9059 The term Slavs didn't exist before the 6th century. One more thing, the Greek historian recorded that Baltic Serbs set up a kingdom for themselves and named it Polska. We all know what POLJE means in Slavic languages. It's a cultivated field. Lusatians are just one of the Serbian tribes that survived until the present day. There were more than 27 in the days of the Roman empire. Bodrici, Ljutici, Milcani, Severjani, Pomorjani, Rujani, Vilici and others just to name the few. The Romans diligently recorded everything. The Germanic tribes lived only on the western banks of the river Rhine. By the 10th century the Serbs were almost assimilated by the advancing Germans and the newly formed identity called Polska. There were only two names that were in the circulation for all the Slavs 14 centuries ago: the Serbs and Rashani or Raseni.

@@user-hb4fc8be2w Sorry but i as half Serbian,half Polish need to say that it's actually Polish.Sorbs are tribes that made Serbs.Conquered Balkans,Balkans had it's own people and that's to be proud of.But propaganda that Serbs made all Slavs is simply very funny.In Poland there is practically genetic homogenity.And if you started with language,that's very weak proof.Try harder,language is not only about words.Polish grammar and language is far more complex than some South Slavic one.I am proud of both my countries,Vincha culture etc.But Sorbs are far more closer to Poles,genetically,culturally,etc.Etc.

@@bhgkihkh7810 It is not funny you just need to read a little bit more and educate yourself. Polish identity did not exist before the 6th century. BTW, the Lusatians don't address themselves as Sorbs but Serbs. The Germans call them Sorbs.

Im all for revenge and such, but having it happen to innocent people isn't fair at all. Not every German is responsible for the war and entire groups of people shouldn't be punished for things that part of their group did

Do I need to remind you that the Nazis won democratic elections in Germany? And even at the time of the genocide, the Nazis enjoyed the support of the majority of German society. The death, destruction and all the misfortunes that befell the Germans were not a punishment but a consequence of the choices made by these Germans. The punishment was meted out by the courts, and unfortunately only to a few. The rest of German society only suffered the consequences of their own choices. @@Fella12366

@@Fella12366 After 4 partitions and 150 years of abhorrent behavior by Germans, there is surprisingly little revenge.

@@metanoian965 Germans as a whole shouldn't be punished for it, just the perpetrators

@@metanoian965 It's because if you did take revenge, then Hitler would be right. He told the Germans that the entire world was trying to destroy Germany. Was he right after all? If so, then what the Germans did was completely justified. You see how that works? That's why nobody talks about what happened to the Eastern Germans after the war. People would start thinking about these kinds of things

There is actually a fast growing group who want to negotiate about the lost territories. The russains actually wanted to give us back land in the 80's. They had secret talks with the german government to exchange Ostpreußen (Kaliningrad) for 20 billion mark, which for some stupid reson the german gorvernment didnt accept.

If Poland's population continues to stagnate for another decade, will it be welcoming to immagrants from other European countries?

Poland 🇵🇱 Germany 🇩🇪 UNITED = 💪

I think it's very unlikely that Russia would give Kalilingrad to anyone, as it's the only Russian portin the Baltic Sea that is ice-free all year long. +Christian Weibrecht It's slowly happening right now, because many people from the east, mainly Ukraine, come to Poland to work here, study at our universities and it's a good, and we want them to stay as we are culturally similar and in my opinion they would have much trouble in assimilating. Of course, some of Polish people don't like this idea, because "they will steal our jobs etc." (surprising how this rhetoric is similar to the rhetoric sometimes used against Poles living in Western Europe). The main reason why Poland isn't a good place for immigration is that we are relatively poor in comparison to western countries of EU. Unless we start having more babies, the demographic will increase gap and population will gradually decline, and immigration from Poland to UK, Germany etc only made it worse, because they were part of working-age population and as they started to settle in those countries, they are not likely to return to Poland.

+Ian Miles Really? Most Poles I know are more anti-Russian than anti-German. And I'm Polish myself.

Max Zombrex wait, do you know why they were expelled? Have you heard about Hitler or Holocaust? When you loose the war it means you loose. Should not have started the war which killed 6 mln Poles and destroyed half of country.

@@volkhen0 dude calm down, obviously i know about the holocaust and the 2. ww, still this is no justification to expell millions of innocents from their homes. One bad thing don't justifies another evil.

Marissz: the entire German educational system is a holocaust industry promotor and has been for generations. You don't know that? You know why millions of Poles were expelled by the Soviets? Then there was the Katyn incident...

@@MaxS1871 No German was innocent. None. So this lot paid. GOOD. Germans didn't really pay the price of their crimes.

@@patriciabrenner9216 Sure if you say so, i am glad to know that saints like you exist to fairly judge millions of people.

Many Germans did come to consider themselves Polish and fought on our side in 1939. A quarter of my high school class had German surnames, all of them being 100% Polish, it was funny.

I am so glade that she survived - half of the Germans trapped in Prussia, were mass murdered by the damn poles, and or, froze to death, etc. - I am happy for her.

@@lottivonhesse9382 perhaps if you folks were less belligerent this would not have happened please take your head out of your ass

@@cleightorres3841 Oh yeah - you support the mass murder and torture of GERMAN children and their families! 3.5 million Prussian-Germans were mass murdered and evicted out of THEIR OWN LAND, HOMES, BUSINESSES, and FARMS and you want me to be so civilized about this MASS MURDER and TORTURE od MY GERMAN PEOPLES? ARE YOU CRAzY, or just another German-hatingpole, or slav? You make me want to vomit right on your FACE!

@@cleightorres3841 BTW - GO TO HELL - I hope YOU rot there - you scum!

@@lottivonhesse9382 You have such class Typical of a Slavic/Mongol mix trying to tell the world you are Scandinavian/Nordic/Aryan And the Germans DID start the war You reap as you sow

Including Berlin which was founded by Slavs.

60% of that died in WW2 and were fleeing by 1948. Most of them left before 1946

Hungarians and Poles were also relocated after war from Czechoslovakia.

@@matejcingalek6582 there's a reason you guys aren't much liked in Europe. Life is life don't judge by ethnicity man

@@longlivepoland6400 Says someone who is associated with Poland, which expelled the Czechs not only to Czechia but also to East Germany along with the Germans. With Hungary it was an exchange deal, with the Hungarians sending about 70,000 Slovaks and the Czechoslovakia sending the same number. Moreover, the CSSR, after an agreement with Poland, did not expel the planned 6,000 Poles after all. So there is really no one to blame here, because we are all exactly the same.

From "Allenstein" - now "Olsztyn" to be exact. I'm very mixed because she has some Polish ancestors and well... my father is from Africa. :D

@@Miningfox You're a "Heinz 57," like so much of the world population.

@@Miningfox Lovely! 🖤

Miningfox Western Poland*

My family tree is from Prussia. And I live in Finland. Funny I guess.

Yeah, the first Germans started to come in 17th and mainly 18th century so basically for 3 centuries they were living in the historical lands of Czechs. If you look at the medieval maps of Bohemia the borders on the west (borders with Germany) are practically the same. One more addition to it. The Germans were also often from Austria or from alps (German, Swiss, Austrian) and they were brought to Czech mountains to harvest the wood as they were used to it from alps so many of them were brought for this sole purpose. Half of my family comes from the Sudetenland, Czechs and Germans living there together, marrying each other and all that. Hitler is to blame but that’s a history now. Very happy for eu and relationships with all of our neighbours.

⁠@@zvxkackathere will be no peace.🦅🦅🦅💥

"we have been migrating and intermixing for millennia" - Yes, but not at the scale and speed of today. A German moving to the British Isles is not the same as a Somali moving there :)

@@theenlightenedatheist3953 What's wrong with Somal- oh yeah that's a reference to the great replacement well if you don't want Blacks to go to your country then how about you don't ruin their countries in the first place.

Germans built every town in what is now Czechia.

​@@Occident.lmao they didn't. By that standard Slabs built every city in today's east and central Germany - eg Berlin

@@tomasvrabec1845 They didn’t build any German City, because those Settlements weren’t Cities.

Germans from all Eastern European countries cooperated with Nazi Germany. And people are surprised so many of them were killed by Partisans and the Soviets.

People are not surprised, its just that westerners vape the life of a German above that of their victims. Somehow, they are always the victim.

I'm from a Mennonite backround and many members of our church were from the parts of Southern Russia. They immigrated to Russia under Cathrine the Great. In WW2 they were persecuted by the Soviets because they were ethnic Germans and by the Germans because they were Russian citizens. Because they were Mennonite they refused to join either army. When the Germans were pushed out and back to Germany Most Mennonites were pushed back with them stranding them there. Many started writing their cousins in the US about their plight. One untold story is how the Mennonite church sent aid to Europe after the war keeping many people from starving. Most European Mennonites immigrated after to Canada because it had a much more open policy at the time

Understandable, but still not good. I believe 'two wrongs don't make a right' applies here?

Poles are "new slavic nation"? ;)

Freedom from debt slavery and Communism was their issue. The banks were starving the Germans.