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I believe that the Book of Mormon is true. I believe in Jesus Christ is our beloved Savior of the world.Jeaus is the way we shall immortal life. Esther Gable❤
I came across the church in 1981 in Sacramento when I was 24, and did not believe the Joseph Smith story. It was too far-fetched. But I also knew a lot of members of the church, and they were the best people I knew. A conflict grew within me: how do these people, whom I respect and admire, believe this incredible story? I was not a religious person, and didn't feel the urge to join any church. But this conflict within me grew and started to really bother me. I decided to investigate, and was led to Moroni's promise. After months of praying and attending sporadically, and not receiving anything that I would call a "witness", a returned missionary sat me down and we discussed what was meant by "sincere heart, with real intent" - and I began to really focus on my prayers. Three weeks later I received a manifestation of the Spirit that can only come from God. It filled me with joy, peace and comfort - and I KNEW Joseph did indeed translate an ancient record. Five days later I asked to go on a mission. Today I am still a witness that God loves us much more than we realize, and He does answer prayers, and that the restoration occurred, there are living prophets today, and I am so incredibly blessed to receive this knowledge. Praise be to God!
I know Joseph Smith Jr. is a prophet of God. He short lived yet received the most doctrine for life and salvation. Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost live, they taught me of this truth.
"can only come from God" So says the FLDS, Muslims, Moonies, Christadelphians, Jehovah's Witnesses, Oneness Pentecostals see the problem with this kind of approach? This is why we need evidence.
I was a missionary serving at these sacred historic sites when part of this was being filmed. I add my personal witness that the Book of Mormon is true and the events shared did happen just as told. Study and read the book for yourself to know. Thanks, Casey and crew for all your work to tell the true story
What a blessing to have revelation and new fulfilled prophecies: More and more returned missionaries are now sharing the following with everyone: Ether Chapter 4, verses 13 to 19 as an example. This leads to the greatest magnitude of importance: tithing: Chapter 12 of: “The Sealed Portion, The Final Testament Of Jesus Christ PDF”
@@adiospobreza The book Mormon was plagiarised from the Old testament and the New testament, rewritten 5, 000 times since 1830. The name changes alteration in script. The most correct book ever written Mr Joseph said [ adult ] and Martin Harris. Smith was an adultery womaniser he married 33 women and teenage girls and 11 women had husbands and was a gold-digger. When did Jesus Christ preach this in your perverted book of Mormon. Doctrine & Covenant. Law, he cannot commit adultery, for they belong to him, and are given unto him, therefore he is justified. Read your filthy book, i am not into fairy story's your book supports Adultery Polygamy, Racism. Mr Joseph prophesied that Jesus Christ would return in the year of 1891. ?
@@thomaspearson1919 Thank you for your historical message. It mentioned zero about tithing. Chapter 12 of: “The Sealed Portion, The Final Testament Of Jesus Christ PDF “ clarifies about tithing, something more and more people share after reading Chapter 12, also Chapter 18, Chapter 20, etc. I encourage you to read Chapter 12 and tell me what you agree with.
After 64 years in the True church I will never forget the witness given to me by the Holy Ghost it filled my whole body with joy and light my testimony burns even brighter to day
This video series is excellent. High quality scholarship, artwork, and information. It’s great you are traveling to the areas so we can see the actual spots where events happened. Great drone footage as well.
The Book of Mormon is an amazing book and we may never come to fully appreciate its depths. There is no way Joseph or any living person could have manufactured the Book of Mormon. The book is exactly what it claims to be, a scriptural record of a fallen people, translated by the gift of God by a Prophet of God.
@@Ak74-247 that’s normal for translations. How many different translated versions of the Bible are there? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_Bible_translations Joseph Smith made a few changes to help correct potential misunderstandings. Example: in the original translation he called Mary the “mother of God” p. Later he changed the language to read, “mother of the Son of God”. Either way is correct. Others have made changes but oftentimes the original was more accurate. Obviously you’ve never read and studied the Book of Mormon and are making excuses for not doing so.
What an awesome presentation of glorious events! The book of Mormon is truly a marvelous work and a wonder, and I am thankful for the prophets, and the Lord. I was about 14, I read the New Testament and felt a need for baptism, I opened a phone book in August, 1999, and called various churches, and the name of the Church drew me to it, as well as 1 single encounter with 2 young Elders showing the students in my school the Lamb of God video on VHS! My 1st meeting with the missionaries was much like my first time going to the Church; I felt a love that I felt at home, and these people were truly Christ like. I have been reading a bit more consistently lately and I'm very thankful for this record and am in the process of renewing my testimony of it. May the hearts of God's children be softened and touched by the Spirit of the Lord with the truthfulness of this record.
There is no record that Joseph, or Oliver Cowdery, ever said he read the words off a stone in a hat. Joseph only said he used the "nephite interpreter" ,later referred to as the Urim and Thummin, AND by the gift and power of God . So where did the idea he "read words off a stone in a hat" come from? The original sources of this theory appear to come from not so reliable individuals and even a derogatory 1830 publication. Yet, due to revisionist history, this theory is now promoted as absolute fact. If Joseph never said he read the words from a stone in a hat, then that theory would have to be speculation or purposeful distortion of the originators. Revisionist history gives equal validity to all sources even if highly questionable or even untrue. So its important for everyone to study and know the history or the history. After I spent over 2 years doing just that I came to the same conclusion that the Joseph Smith Foundation did.... simply, Joseph translated the plates by the gift and power of God using the interpreting tools given to him with the plates.
LDS Mormon Prophet Russell Nelson Book of Mormon Seer Stones & Hat Translation Explained ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DG181zFA5YM.html
When I first met the missionaries back in 1982, the very first time I held the Book of Mormon and I read Moroni's promise found in Moroni 10:3-5, I received not only a spiritual but also a physical testimony that the book I had in my hands was true. Everything else I was taught by these young men was fuzzy to me at the time. However, I KNEW that the Book of Mormon was true and I knew it had come from God. That testimony has helped me to get closer to God and His Son Jesus Christ.
I was born in the covenant & I was riding on my parents coattails. I hated going to Church hearing these unbelievable testimonies because I never had one & doesn’t the Lord love me? I left the Church when I was 16 & 20yrs later I gained a strong testimony of the Book of Mormon. I had a bunch of mental problems & I about ended someone’s life. I hated how I felt & scared that charges would be placed on me. I took a dusty BoM of the shelf & prayed. I was blaming the Lord for making me feel this way & I wanted this feeling removed. When I got done praying I opened my eyes & the BoM was opened. There highlighted was the answer to my prayer, 3rd Nephi 11:29-30. When I was reading I felt the Lord speaking to me & when I read the last word away I felt the hand of the Lord remove all that anger from me 20yrs ago. I started going back to Church & no charges were placed on me. I’ve been blessed beyond measure after coming back to the fold & following the Lord. I learned from the Lord that I was Spiritually sick not mentally that Drs diagnosed me as. I was in & out of Mental Hospitals. I was bullied & abused growing up. I had night terrors, hearing voices, suicidal & I was a very violent person. I listened to the Lord & He helped me get off all medications. I even stopped seeing Therapists because they wouldn’t teach me Gospel Principles that I understood. I tell others that the Lord is my Therapist & His Gospel are my Meds. I never been happier. Meds only drugged me up to not act out but I was still suffering on the inside & only God can heal us Spiritually. Also I found out I have a reaction to most Meds that makes me violent. Prayfully seek the right help & listen to the Lord. If he wanted me to still be on Meds I would be but He has blessed me & it all started from the power of the Book of Mormon.
Great insights and help for others. Use medical help when appropriate, and follow inspiration. The Second Great Commandment is to love yourself in kind and compassionate ways. Then you are in a position of helping others in the same way.
Yes Christ IS RETURNING, there is littlest time little room for disbelief or hard hearts. SISTER 26:51 Xxx well done. Just go forward, , no doubting...🇬🇧
This is a great video. I wish you had touched on the sighting of the three strangers ( threee Nephites) that plowed the field. It is said that it was plowed with exactness and was straighter than they had ever seen. 21:10
My husbands family is Noah and Chandler Rogers The father and three sons had a personage come to them years before Joseph’s dream and prayer and visions and witnessing angels and the first vision! They were told that by this person they would see the restoration of the gospel and be able to see the coming forth of a ancient book! After hearing about the Book of Mormon and joining the church they read about the three nephites ! And thrg then believed they are walked and talked with one of the three nephites who stayed on the earth as it was their firm wish to do so!
Awesome video but one question. Why not talk more about the Urim and Thummim? It’s like you glazed over such an important object that the Lord gave Joseph to use to translate the Book of Mormon. Other Prophets of old had it also. It sounds like your more interest in the stone in hat theory. What are your sources? The other Prophets didn’t have a stone in a hat? Why wouldn’t he use what the Lord gave him to use?
@@karlshaner2453 You shouldn't have posted what you posted. That was not the proper way to come across to someone that believes differently. This nonmember person is being respectful to the church and yet you just embarrassed the church with how you responded. You know full well that is not the way Mormons are taught to share the gospel. Where is your Christ-like love, your long-suffering? We don't tell people to belive, or try to scare them with fire & brimstone styled preaching. You can do better. Be respectful of others, especially if they're not members. How you treat them matters.
@@silkwoodart Did I not quote the Savior and state the church is true? Your claim that quoting Christ embarrassed the church?? Your judgement toward me is flawed, and far more brutal than the honest fact I stated.
The book of Hebrews 1823... The origin of the American Indians came from Jews, who travelled over from the old world.. The use of extensive quotations from the prophecies of Isaiah. A future gathering of Israel and a restoration of the ten tribes. The peopling of the new world from the old world through a long journey, northward which included seas of many waters.. A religious motive for the migration. The division of the immigrants into civilised and uncivilised groups. Long wars that erupted between that erupted between them, the eventual destruction of all the civilised people by the uncivilised.. an assumption that all native people were descended from Israelite's and their language from the Hebrews. That there was a buried book, consisting of yellow leaves which was lost; Ample description of extensive military observations or watch towers, overlook them.. ====================================================================== The Book Of Hebrews 1823. The Book Of Mormon 1829 Very similar books. ================================================================
Well, this is surely a Marvelous Video on the history of The Book of Mormon. Very Well Done! I've posted it on my Facebook page! Keep up the good work. Blessings.
I am so grateful to Brother Joseph for everything he did and went through in establishing the Lords' Church in these last days. I am so happy that Heavenly Father and The Holy Ghost continue to fill me with the joy and peace that let's me know my desire to come home to the Celestial world is very much what Father wants me to do. I pray my end is joyous.
There is zero evidence for the Bom being historical. For example, look at the actual 'reformed Egyptian' characters....it is just English letters with some extra twirls. In no way Egyptian. Furthermore' reformed Egyptian' isn't a language. Also long histories on gold plates have never happened in the ancient world. Furthermore all the 200 plus anarchisms. Furthermore, the plates just disappeared so no one could see em. And the handful of people who signed were all friends or related to JS so that doesn't prove anything. Look at the book of Abraham or the Kinderhook plates the church took as dogma until the 70s....JS said he could translate things then fast forward it is clear it was a hoax- same with the BoM.
There is vast amount of supporting evidence but I think what you’re asking for is proof. God doesn’t “prove” Himself. But a video like this is more of an informational introduction. If you want to know whether it’s true, this isn’t the place to find out. Speak to the missionaries, read the Book of Mormon and find out for yourself.
@@mikewood3557 I have read the book. No need to ask some youg missionaries either. Generational member here. I want to see some of this validated by the lds church and made official.
A person can only know the truthfulness of this book thru the exercise of FAITH. The process of FAITH is as follows: F - Recognize that God is the your "FATHER", the only true God, and that he loves you deeply. A - "Ask" your father, humbly, in the name of Christ. I - Live "IN-TUNE" with the commandments of God. T - Expect a "TRIAL" of your faith. Answers to asking will be based upon your response to trial. H - If you've done all of the above, you'll receive an answer to your asking thru the promptings of the "Holy Ghost".
My desire to know the truth led me to overcome my personal obstacles and objections to learn for myself that the Book of Mormon is true and that Joseph Smith is a modern prophet. Knowing and participating in the Church helps me understand the scriptures and to draw closer to Jesus Christ daily.
This is a formula for tricking yourself into believing. You start with the conclusion and look for anything you can to make that conclusion real. Maybe, instead, try asking yourself what would make this conclusion false...and exhaustively run those tests. If it's Truth it'll stand up to tests against it being false. If you come up with no externally verifiable ways to test for falsehood...then it's unfalsifiable. If it's unfalsifiable then the truth cannot be known. In that case, why believe?
@@SpartacusMA1 Awh Michael, you are relaying on reason alone... there are some things that can't be known by reason alone. "If any man lack wisdom, let him ask of God..." James 1:5. Exhaustively run that test brother.
@@lekistick1013 Okay, god told me that I need to follow Warren Jeffs, now what? Also, prove that he didn't. You can't. You can say I'm lying because your version of god would never suggest such a thing. The problem is ... that same god seems to be telling the FLDS people that very thing. It's a terrible terrible test.
@@SpartacusMA1 I see your point Michael, but know that both LDS and FLDS believe that the BofM was divinely inspired; as do many that adhere to neither "religion". So the test is still valid in that a person can come to know of the books truthfulness via the process previously posted. Gods promise will work for all people, regardless of their current belief, if they search the BofM with a "sincere heart and "true intent" (Moroni 10:3-5). Don't get me wrong, its not a trite process. As life's events can contradict and confuse, some work for years reading, studying, praying and asking questions before they settle on a conclusion. I believe this represents the "TRIAL" part of the process ("the LORD trieth the hearts..." Proverbs 17:3). As for Warren Jeffs, I'm glad you where not deceived.
Loved listening to this incredible spiritual journey of the Prophet Joseph ! I’ve prob seen the video about Harmony and the Whitmer family help about 40 x !
The first vision is very different from a true, first visitation. Nothing matters unless you pay your tithing. Chapter 12 of: “The Sealed Portion, The Final Testament Of Jesus Christ PDF “
Why are there not massive archaeological digs on the site this is the hill where the great final battles were fought right. The hill should be loaded with swords, chariots, shields armor that would be very strong proof for the book of Mormon, right?😮
Have you seen Jesus Christ? Likely not. So what is the nature of your assurance that He actually existed and lives still? The things of the spirit are understood and known by the spirit. The "proof" of the Book of Mormon is found in Moroni's promise in the last chapter of the book of Moroni at the very end of the Book of Mormon. Historical evidence is good, but it does not convert one's soul to the truth.
@@tonyjames1953 So this is a perfect example of circular reasoning. Any crackpot with a holy book could (and does) say exactly the same thing! So, if a Muslim told you that Allah appeared to him and told him the Koran was the inerrant word of Allah and the LDS Church was false. What would you say??? Any approach to knowledge that cannot distinguish reality from imagination is a dead end.
it's also very possible they were not preserved, since they weren't in a protected vault or anything. For stuff like that to get preserved there need to be pretty exact conditions. Idk, ask an archaeologist.
My great grandparents joined the Church in England many years before I was born. They planned on going to the States, but their plans were interrupted by WW I. My great grandfather was drafted in the Army of the United Kingdom and was shipped to France where he was killed by a sniper. After several years, my great grandmother purchased passage on a ship bound to the United States. She had 5 children in tow on the boat and then to Ellis Island for the documents needed to stay in the United States. All was well until my grandfather contacted some type of Flu and they were not permitted to leave until my grandfather was well. They had planned to go to Utah, but due to the delay, much of their reserve had been spent to take care of my grandfather. Instead, they decided to settle in Indiana where my great grandmother's sister's family lived. My father was born in Indianapolis, Indiana. Several years later, my grandfather was called as the District President. Shortly after that, the District was divided into 2 stakes. My grandfather was the first stake president of one of the stakes. My mother was not a member of the Church, mainly, because her father didn't want her to join a "Church of the Devil". She went to Church regularly. She was introduced to the Church by a neighbor, that I got to know him as my Uncle. When my mother turned eighteen, she joined the Church. My "Uncle" and my grandfather connived to have my mother contact my father during a break in Stake Conference in 1943. The were introduced and married within 2 weeks of getting married. However, their married life was broken up due to WWII. My father joined the Navy and became a U.S. Navy Corpsman on a submarine. I was born in Aiea Heights, Honolulu Hawaii inn 1947 after the war was over. My father decided to stay in the Military, so we travelled a bit. My mother was my Primary teacher while, in many places, my father was a Group Leader on base and sometimes in our home. When I turned 8, we were living in Landstuhl, Germany. The only place for a baptismal fount was by train in another city. My father baptized me and confirmed me a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I am very lucky to have parents that are members of the Church. My father ordained me a Deacon, a Teacher, and a Priest and taught me many wonderful things. I served a Mission in Montevideo, Uruguay and was married in a Temple. I have studied the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants, the Bible's Old and New Testament, and the Pearl of Great Price. With Satan's temptations all around me to tell me the fallacy of my beliefs. I continue to pray and worship Him, who gave us his all so we may return to Our Father In Heaven. Thank you so much for this presentation.
Yes! He received the Book of Mormon from the angel Moroni and the Priesthood authority first from John the Baptist then the Melchizedek Priesthood as well from Peter, James and John, all appearing as glorified resurrected angels of God.
Personally I just don't believe Smith's story about the plates. Same with the whole book of Mormon, it's nothing more than Smith's imagination run riot. I've read the book & I came to the church of the LDS with no preset idea's other than to seek knowledge & find out as much as possible & take it from there. I'm English & I genuinely didn't know anything about the Mormon faith. It's quite a story & I'd recommend people read everything available before making their decision. Thank you.
I BELIEVE THE BOOK OF MORMON.. JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE HAT PART IN TRANSLATION...WHERE DO I FIND UNDERSTANDING...80 YEAR OLD FROM THE TOPS OF THE MOUNTAINS ISAIAH 2
I add my witness to the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon. Anyone can discover for themselves it’s truthfulness if you earnestly seek to know. It is a handbook for survival along with the Bible in these last days.
I add my testimony that the Book of Mormon is scripture and that Jospeh Smith testimony is true "Millions shall know Brother Jospeh again" it was written by prophets of God it was written for us it was preserved by the hand of God we are living in the last days the son of God christ himslef will come to rule and rein upon this earth truth is eternal God is the same today yesterday and forever hes patterns are fixed I to prayed to know the truth for myslef & The truth shall set you free Free from what from the lies of the devil from the lies of the world ......
The book of mormon has over 288 pages The original book was made of gold how did he pick it up you would have needed a forklift It was written in Egyptian hieroglyphs The book would have been well over 2000 pounds
Thank you so much for this video. I wish there would be some translations in French because I would I loved to send this video to my family. My brother is a very good man, but because of the trials and hardship of life, he is very skeptical to religion. For him, there is no particular true church and all are corrupted. Sad...
Instead of feeling sorry for your brother and judging him....maybe you should try to understand where he's coming from. The funny thing is that your brother probably feels that your belief in the church is sad.
It’s a well-established fact, that Joseph, that his “golden plate“ that his court witness“ Whitmer testified that they actually never saw there’s Blindspot sire as one would see a city through a mountain. Mormon is just Joseph Smith plagiarizing a bunch of common myths and literature of his day. Joseph Smith extorted in abused any people, just like the leaders of his corporation, have done throughout its 200 years and still participate in feeling the current leader ship. We saw just last year that the leaders of the church colluded with the republican party to protect predators, and to hide predators from the law instead of protecting the children in their church. Furthermore, archeology and DNA both disprove the book of Mormon. Please abandon this corporation was just so much carbs so many people, and we spent so much heat and has done immense harm over. It’s 200 years.
The book of Jacob in the Bible, both contradict Joseph’s one DNC 132, that he wrote to try to excuse his many affairs that he had already started with before he wrote down this doctrine. He had his affair with Fanny Alger, his adopted daughter, as witnessed by Oliver, years before his supposed revelation of polygamy. Which is interesting, that he claims that he asked why God justified Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in polygamy, because that is simply not God never justified any of that. The Bible says to be the husband of one wife, which was Emma’s understanding of their marriage, because of course it was, until Joseph threatened her to stop complaining in his doctrine, and covenants 132. He blackmailed her with destruction if she complained about his affairs with their daughters and other girls and women!
There’s also another layer when you consider the deception in the fact that for 100 years your church drew up official depictions of justice translation process, and what are in those the pictures? Joseph, looking through spectacles that your church called the ermine Tamil at plates to translate, and your church didn’t admit, until recently, until the cat was already out of the bag, and they had to confront the fax, that was, Joseph Smith actually did was put his magic seer/squire/peeping/treasure, digging stone into a hat, and cleaned to translate when the reality is that he was just a good storyteller, he told many stories to his mom long before he supposedly found his plates, and that golden plates are basically his masterpiece of slippery treasure fraud. Nobody saw these golden plates, because they didn’t exist.
Are there any mormons here hi nice to meet you i am a christian but im new to knowing about joseph smith, How do you know joseph smith is a true prophet thank you i dont to argue im just curious thank you
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It makes me sad that anyone would believe that an all-enlightened being who was reported to have just uttered the words at his death, "forgive them", etc, and after reportedly experiencing exactly what it is like to be every person ever born (how and why they think the way they do, their lack of understanding, their culture, their poverty, illiteracy and ignorance, their poorly evolved/inherented brain genetics, poor nutrition, their poor parental upbringing, etc) would turnaround and deal with thse backward ancient humans by reportedly descending from heaven, killing them in such abhorrent ways (3 Nephi 8-9..And behold I ((Jesus)) burned, sunk, buried, etc, ~14 cities) for finite sins, instead of through meeting with them in person and educating and rehabilitating them in love and with a perfect example and perfect understanding. He's right back to Old Testament God after feeling what it's like and how hard it is to be mortal himself and suffering everyone's infirmities and dying and going to heaven and then coming back. And he lets his wrath out, not upon the Romans who actually knew he was a real person, but instead upon people on the other side of the world who only had faith to go on. 3 hours of Darkness for one side. Three days of complete darkness on the other. Hmm. And natural disasters kill indiscriminately. They don't just kill bad people and spare "the more righteous part of the people". And if they did, that opens up more problems to deal with. Plus all people are a mixture of righteous and unrighteous. You can't just blanket statement say the wicked were killed and the righteous were spared. I've heard all the apologetics trying to say why it's all OK. None of them make it ok or make sense and open up to even more questions that make all the said events even less believable. I'm sure this comment will be hidden because people don't like their claims to have to compete in the marketplace of ideas.
In Quantum physics, what you focus your attention is where you place your energy. This could explain why righteous people where spared from the disaster because they have focused on their salvation in terms of physical salvation from destruction. The people has been given warning about destruction if they repent they will be spared.
So you can't accept the Book of Mormon because "good" people must have bern killed along with bad people and God would never kill good people ? Unless you know something I don't,.. every single person on earth (good or bad) was born to die and death is not God's punishment but God's way of bringing us home.
I never doubted the authenticity of the Book of Mormon or the testimony of the prophet Joseph Smith. However, when I visited the Sacred Grove and the Smith home, I knew it was true with every fiber in my being.
Great video however, I do not buy all the references that you make to Mesoamerica… One of the obvious features that stands out in Mesoamerica architecture is steps that lead to the tops of temples… In old testament times, you can read about this in Leviticus Jews, never worshiped as a result of climbing up steps… They always worshiped going up ramps… There is more and increasing evidence that the book of Mormon actually took place in the heart of America were many mounts are found and also those alloys that you spoke of are also found that could've been used to create the book of Mormon… Just looking for a little balance in your presentation with regards to geography
While containing much useful information, this video contains some serious errors and omissions about the translation. Just after 13:00 it states that the pages which were to be lost by Martin Harris were translated using both the seerstone as well as the Urim & Thummim interpreters which came with the plates. This is directly contradicted by Emma Smith, who in an 1870 letter which is the only writing directly from her on the translation clearly stated that the lost pages were translated using the Urim & Thummim, with the seerstone only used for later translation. Note here that Emma was replaced by Oliver for the later translation, so the second part of that claim is only hearsay. But she was a scribe for the translation of the lost pages, and stated that part used the Urim & Thummim with the seerstone only used later (the hearsay part of the letter). Also important to note is that the video tries to blur the distinction between the Urim & Thummim and the seerstone, implying that they were referred to and used interchangeably. However, in the referenced letter from Emma, she used the term "Urim & Thummim" only to refer to the Nephite interpreters, and referred to the seerstone as a separate object. Since Emma was replaced by Oliver Cowdery as the scribe for the Book of Mormon we have today after the loss of the lost pages which she scribed, Oliver is the better source for how the Book of Mormon we have today was translated. And he and Joseph left numerous written published statements ascribing the translation to the Nephite interpreters, not the seerstone. This is illustrated by the quote at 16:00 which has an ellipsis in the middle. This ellipsis is not for length, but to hide the fact that the few omitted words are "as he translated with the Urim & Thummim, or, as the Nephites would have said, "Interpreters," ... which, of course, completely contradicts the video's implication that any part of the Book of Mormon was translated using the seerstone. For an accurate historically based account of the translation, see the new book "By Means of the Urim & Thummim: Restoring Translation to the Restoration."
I'm confused -- is he an "angel" or a spirit? Either way, if some angel or some guy who died came to me and gave me anything or said anything to me, I would TEST him to see if he was of God or not. 1John 4:1-3 1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. Furthermore, he had better preach the same thing that Jesus Christ did... Galatians 1:8 & 9 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. Now this begs the question, did Moroni bring the exact same gospel of Christ, or was he accursed? Is there ANY record of Moroni being tested? And is his gospel identical to Christs? Another HUGE problem: Most, if not all, churches of the time were preaching this blessed gospel. They had AND acknowledge the Everlasting Covenant that Jesus Christ is the Mediator of. 1Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Hebrews 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. Hebrews 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. Romans 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. See Galatians chapter 3 especially this part... 17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. 18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise. 19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. 20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one. This new covenant erases our sins and makes us His people. Hebrews 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: Hebrews 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. Jesus said... Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, *the Almighty.* Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. Rev 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. Rev 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and *I will be his God,* and he shall be my son. John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. So far, NONE of the places in the Book of Mormon have been identified. There is no known evidence for any of it? 19:41 In a way, John the Baptist preached against the Aaronic priesthood. John's baptism was one of repentance (Jesus did not need to repent), the forgiveness of sins, and of water. Jesus' baptism was "with the Holy Spirit and fire". John recognized that the baptisms were to advertise and prepare for the Christ of God and that Jesus was to be a high priest after the order of Melchisedec/Melchizedek not Aaron because His order is eternal, and "he was the priest of the most high God." Heb 5:10 Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec. Psa 110:4 The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek. Heb 6:20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. Heb 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. Heb 7:21 (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:) Heb 7:22 *By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament. * Aaron was flawed, and was a man. He died in his sins and he needed a Savior. Holy Christ was perfect and eternal. Heb 7:26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens; Heb 7:27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself. Heb 7:28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore. I wonder why Smith didn't claim it was Moses or Aaron who gave him the supposed authority? or why he did not claim that Melchisedec had appeared instead of John the Baptist?
So when is this people going to tell the REAL TRUTH ABOUT THE STICK OF JOSEPH IN THE HANDS OF EPHRAIM It the true name of this book it is the record of the true Hebrews Just like the Holy Bible which is really called the book of the Law
SORRY.... TO CONTINUE FROM BELOW... EXCERPTS OF THE HILL CUMORAH PAGEANT... JOSEPH SMITH RESTORED FARM HOUSE.. A WALK INTO THE SACRED GROVE WHICH BRINGS THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD TO THE PARTICIPANTS... I FIND YOUR CHURCH HISTORY EPICS VERY INSPIRING WONDERFULLY PLANNED AND INFORMATIVE... 79 YR OLD FROM THE TOPS OF THE MOUNTAINS ISAIAH 2
It came from hell to decide many to their eternal demise. It contradicts God's Word. Man cannot aspire to become HOD. Elohim did not graduate from peoplehood. Lucifer and Jesus are not spirit brothers. And all who follow it are in a place separated from God for eternity whr'sre the work never dies and the fire is never quenched
23:00 so all the witnesses got shown the real, physical, plates by an angel? The scribes that were consistently in the room with the plates and joseph, during the translation, only ever saw them via an angel? 😂🤔
Exactly. That’s why Mormons are encouraged to “doubt their doubts, not their faith”. If you think about this stuff too hard, the ridiculousness becomes very apparent.
This was a good podcast and I enjoyed it except for the stone in the hat. This is not correct history. What happened to the Urim and Thummim that was taught when I was a young girl? The stone in the hat was never talked about until a few years ago. Any mention of that theory only came after Joseph Smith was dead and started by David Whitmer, a man who apostasized and never returned to the Church. Oliver Cowdery, who was the main scribe, never spoke or wrote about a stone in the hat, only the Urim and Thummim and the Power of God were used to translate the Book of Mormon. Any mention of the stone in the hat happened in the latter part of the 19th century, after the death of Joseph and Oliver. I have spent several years researching this topic and I still believe that the stone in the hat is not correct history.
I agree Kimberly... unless the stone Joseph used was actually one of the stones out of the Urim and Thummim that the Jaredites had. Remember that the "specticles" where so large that they covered the entirety of a mans face. Using one stone at a time would only be particle.
I recently read Mosiah 8:13-18. It talks about the gift of seers, which we know Joseph was a seer. Mosiah 7:18 is particularly interesting to me because of what I have heard about how Joseph couldn't translate if he was upset.
The witnesses who saw it taking place knew what happened. They all said it took place with a seer stone in a hat. President Nelson also said that’s how it happened.
There are good teachings in this book but I think the mention of how the angels "took the book away" and he had to go back for for years to get it adds to the assertion there were no physical plates and that he channeled the material spiritually. If the church would just admit that he channeled it from angels instead of found a mysterious book that could not have existed by all evidence then I think a lot more people could accept it instead of the plates being a barrier.
Uh, I can give you 11 official witnesses and many at least 3 other none official witnesses that have testified that there were real plates. The Church won't "admit that he channeled it from angel" because that is not true and not at all what Joseph and many others have said. The plates were real but I am curious what your "evidence" is that they weren't. The assertion that there aren't plates is 100% false.
The Book Of MOORmon is truth. Or should I call it THE BOOK OF JOSEPH?🤔 It’s just not complete or written for the intended congregation at hand. The Sealed BOOK of MOORmon I heard is a must read as well! 😉
Your narrative of the stone in the hat, and failing to reference Joseph and Oliver’s testimony that Joseph used the Urim & Thummim or interpreters to translate, as Joseph repeatedly said, make your account less than credible. Disappointing. Please study and cite available, credible sources and edit this documentary. Also, please include the Book of Mormon references to the necessity of the interpreters for the translation in the hands of a latter-day prophet; e.g., Alma 37 to Helaman.
The most self defeating thing in this situation is God taking the plates back after the translation was done. God would have done the religion a great favor if he had let Joseph/the church keep the plates. Unfortunately God isn't a huge fan of proof. He wants people to know about him, but not to any conclusive degree.
Or maybe, hear me out, it isn’t true. I was a member for 45 years and I can’t say it was an easy conclusion to come to but it just isn’t true. We have the book of Abraham text and it shows Joseph’s translation was wrong there. No reason to believe that if we had the plates that it would match the text of the Book of Mormon.
@@bgardunia The narrative about the translation of the Book of Abraham that many critics of our church like to say is based on a false idea of what Joseph Smith used to translate it. When he bought the scroll that had the Book of Abraham on it he also bought multiple other pieces of papyrus. After Joseph Smith died, all that went to his mother and after she died, Emma got rid of them immediately and sold them to a man named Arthur Combs. He sold some of it and it went to the Chicago museum which burned down in the 1871 Chicago fire. The papyrus we have now are a separate set of papyrus that were mounted in glass and were passed down to Arthur Comb's caretaker in 1892 Philadelphia. The caretaker's son-in-law sold it to the Metropolitan Museum of Art in 1946. It was then discovered by a University of Utah professor in 1966. And he helped to get those back to the Church in 1967. Why did I tell you the history of the papyrus? Because Joseph Smith in his journal described the papyri he used in translation "The record found with the mummies is beautifully written on papyrus, with black, and a small part red, ink or paint in perfect preservation." There is even an account that it was pretty long. The papyrus mounted in glass or what is The Book of Breathings papyrus which has no writing in red ink and is in an extremely poor state of preservation, nothing like what is described. And considering most of you guys point out that Joseph Smith filled in what the papyrus should have looked like wrong (which wasn't even him, he asked someone else to do it) and you can see some of the same damage in the pictures which we put for the facsimiles then it must have been in a similar condition when Joseph Smith had them. The papyrus we have today is in no way, shape or form what Joseph Smith used when he translated the Book of Abraham from both details by Joseph Smith himself of what he said the papyrus the Book of Abraham looked like vs what the book of breathings we have looks like and the fact it doesn’t translate to the Book of Abraham. To even add further on this, there are many details that are in the Book of Abraham about Abraham that are not said in the Bible and were not known in Joseph Smith's day but have later been corroborated by ancient text that have been found like the Dead Sea Scrolls. Details about Abraham's father, Abraham almost being sacrificed to the Egyptian gods, that God saved him from being sacrificed, that God was the reason why Abraham called his wife his sister, etc. Pretty interesting that if Joseph Smith "made up" the Book of Abraham that it has been confirmed to be pretty historically accurate about Abraham. Jesus Christ is the Son of God, our Lord and our Savior and only in His name and through Him are our sins forgiven and removed so that we can be spotless before God. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is God's and Jesus Christ one and only true church here on earth. The Book of Mormon and Book of Abraham are true historical scriptures and Joseph Smith was a true prophet of God. No criticism against us can stand against scrutiny. Rejoin God and Jesus Christ in their Kingdom and rejoin their true church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and learn all that they have to offer. Learn of their glory and mercy, learn of the plan they have of you.
