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The Disturbing Details Netflix Didn't Show About the Watts Murders 

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Netflix did a great Job in scratching and briefing the surface of this case, but didn't continue that direction in showing everything in the WATTS MURDERS! There is tons that is missing that needs to continue to be shown for those that are just now finding out about this case!
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@gabrielacard7050
@gabrielacard7050 7 месяцев назад
NK was 100% involved and I will die on that hill . Nk was the one to have killed Bella and Cece not CW . He couldn’t do it himself so Nk did it for him . She lied way too much and destroyed evidence. Her interviews say so much that she’s guilty . Nk should be rotting in prison right now , it’s ridiculous that almost six years have gone by and she’s still walking free. I hope her life now is a living hell .
@elaineschwartz7758
@elaineschwartz7758 7 месяцев назад
I agree with you completely. If you look at N K’s hairline on the left side when she is speaking to detective ( not the one with her father there) and compare it with earlier pics of her hairline you can tell a quarter sized patch is missing. Remember Bella fought… she pulled it out as she was fighting for her life. And NK ‘s pinging there that morning proves she was there. And innNates video the first person that comes out is a woman. The only true words that Chris said was that he didn’t kill my girls……No NK did … but he killed Shannon
@gabrielacard7050
@gabrielacard7050 7 месяцев назад
@@elaineschwartz7758 totally agree and yes I remember seeing that hair patch missing , some people say that it was probably even Shanann herself that did that to nk . For me the biggest red flag was her telling the investigators that she accidentally broke her SIM card to her iPhone 6s which is impossible to do unless you cut it in half with scissors. Those SIM cards are very tiny and you need that special key to take it out of the phone or a pin to take it out .
@JeannineSaran-qu2xv
@JeannineSaran-qu2xv 7 месяцев назад
Agree 💯 Something I hadn't noticed in both Chris's interrogation and NK's soft, polite interviews, they both touch their necks repeatedly. Interesting because even though she lies through her teeth, her body language tells the truth. IMO not only did she know but she helped
@MeganVictoriaKearns
@MeganVictoriaKearns 7 месяцев назад
Chris absolutely killed the girls. I understand it's hard to imagine, but I ask you to look up a psychopath's trait known as "the pity play". Watts has mastered it, if somewhat accidentally. NK was too clever to risk getting her hands dirty. Why would she risk it if she had CW totally willing to do all the work. Her searches on Amber Frey tell me she was well aware Watts would be heavily investigated.
@LRLC1123
@LRLC1123 7 месяцев назад
Wow, I am going to have to watch that video again.I didn't notice NK's hair was falling out.
@gachalife_queen2816
@gachalife_queen2816 7 месяцев назад
CW's mom was extremely vindicative and beyond jealous of SW! Honestly, Cindy despised SW so much that she couldn't even love her own grandchildren that came from her. It's One of the most immature things I've ever seen a grandmother do!
@JustGwen181
@JustGwen181 7 месяцев назад
I’m 60 years old and I’ve NEVER seen someone found charged, arrested, found guilty and rushed to prison so quickly than CW was!!!!! EVER! And I’ve been into true crime so long that back in the 70s I had to buy true crime magazines we didn’t have RU-vid or cell phones. We had to buy magazines. So I’ve seen it all.! And there is something about this case that leaves a really bad taste in my mouth and it surrounds Nicole Kessinger and Jim! I’ve been through the system how many X con and I can tell you right now that that interview was like nothing I have ever seen in my life that was not an interview they were telling her what to say. They were guiding her through the interview, basically helping her, and another thing I find really awful is the flirting that was going on between the detectives and Nicole Kessinger! So why wasn’t a female officer detective whatever the worn two question Nicole Kessinger I mean, for God sake she was texting detective at 2am! When I was growing up, that was called a booty call!!!!
@jennystine6314
@jennystine6314 7 месяцев назад
Everything you just stated I’ve also said since day one. At first I thought maybe my hatred for Nicole Kissinger was causing me to be biased but after watching different podcasts and seeing thousands upon thousands of comments from other people who feel the same way.
@jennystine6314
@jennystine6314 7 месяцев назад
I’m not crazy and other people are seeing the same exact things I am. So many things don’t add up.
@allierod1366
@allierod1366 7 месяцев назад
Well said!!!!
@absinthealice
@absinthealice 7 месяцев назад
If Tammy had been the one "interviewing" NK, and her "daddy" kept out of the room, (she IS an adult, there are ZERO excuses for him to have been that room..AT ALL!), I fully believe there would have been a completely different outcome. This all stinks of corruption and power of some kind of standing high up. There is far too much that is unexplainable, or above board.
@disturbingthepieces6395
@disturbingthepieces6395 7 месяцев назад
Yes!!! I've wondered myself if my disgust for NK pushed me towards thinking she was sleeping with at least one of these LE members, so I'm happy to know I'm not alone here
@spellcaster4093
@spellcaster4093 7 месяцев назад
Wow.. His mother is pure poison She didn't show any emotion about those babies throughout that interview. Neither did CW when being interviewed by the authorities... The apple doesn't fall far from the tree...
@n0odles86
@n0odles86 6 месяцев назад
Then she had the cheek to sue for the insurance money, stating she'd lost her grandkids too. What an awful person.
@spellcaster4093
@spellcaster4093 6 месяцев назад
@@n0odles86 omg, that's truly repulsive
@kimberlyelliott7933
@kimberlyelliott7933 4 месяца назад
So bizzare!!! As a grandmother myself, I simply cannot wrap my mind around her reaction or lack of emotion!
@shielaliverpool7545
@shielaliverpool7545 4 месяца назад
Right!!!
@laurenpeery5166
@laurenpeery5166 7 месяцев назад
Thank God I have this RU-vid community because NO ONE in my life wants to follow and doesn’t want to hear about it! Thank you Z! BTW … NOLA girl here!
@bridgetrodriguez4643
@bridgetrodriguez4643 7 месяцев назад
I feel the same way. My hubby will listen but he doesn't understand why I care so much when there's so many similar cases. I told him don't know why but it's always stuck w me and a lot of us here feel the same
@madiclegg3690
@madiclegg3690 7 месяцев назад
​@@bridgetrodriguez4643 Yes, I feel the same. I just want justice for those beautiful people
@thehollyberry7975
@thehollyberry7975 7 месяцев назад
Yes, no one here will listen either.
@kimmerkt6710
@kimmerkt6710 7 месяцев назад
I talk about this all the time and my family is like we don’t need to hear about this stuff. I’m so glad I’m not the only one obsessed
@sarahennemoser8399
@sarahennemoser8399 7 месяцев назад
Do you speak about Chris watts in your family and with your friends? If I would tell anyone in my life about that maybe they also wouldn’t listen..
@hev-l3m
@hev-l3m 7 месяцев назад
From the first time I heard Chris watts mother speaking I knew she was a nasty piece of work. We will never know the whole truth of what happened that night. I really believe NK had some part to play in these cold blooded murders. RU-vidrs like yourself, 50 states of madness, 10 to life have to keep on top of this case to make sure NK is found, charged and arrested re this case. Please don’t stop seeking justice for Shanann, Bella, CeCe and unborn baby Nico. God Bless you all for keeping this case alive. Love from Scotland UK
@absinthealice
@absinthealice 7 месяцев назад
I still believe NK and "Leave Jim alooooone" were involved!
@jessicamarshall7957
@jessicamarshall7957 6 месяцев назад
AND IF HE TELL ON HER HIS FAMILY WOULD BE IN DANGER, GOTTA B
@JenZ727
@JenZ727 7 месяцев назад
I don’t think NK would’ve been researching Amber Frey so hard if she hadn’t known what Chris was going to do.
@ShraddaNiche
@ShraddaNiche 7 месяцев назад
I think she googled that after. At least I hope so because that shows accessory after the fact.
@vicksta8875
@vicksta8875 7 месяцев назад
That was after, no?
@JenZ727
@JenZ727 7 месяцев назад
@@vicksta8875 Oh, I thought it was before. Thanks!
@babswhite8190
@babswhite8190 7 месяцев назад
It was after...right after but had it already in mind..which says she knew what THEY were about to do!
@CBrown86
@CBrown86 7 месяцев назад
She was googling it when people still believed that they were missing iirc, which wayyy was before he confessed
@mommafine3282
@mommafine3282 7 месяцев назад
I ALWAYS felt like Tammy should have handled NK.
@atvchicz400
@atvchicz400 7 месяцев назад
Yes, I agree! 💯 %
@jonathangault3335
@jonathangault3335 7 месяцев назад
100% Tammy Lee would have Smoked NK....I think Agent Coder would have had NK in Prison too....DA ROURKE AND KESSINGER FATHER SHIELDED/COVERED NK... Unforgiveable....Keep fighting the good fight Z and All who deliberate and. Know NK is involved...I reckon that JIM guy too
@elizabethlenahan9833
@elizabethlenahan9833 7 месяцев назад
Ronnie is just as bad as Cindy. He told Chris, if he gets a divorce , he,ll have to pay for 3 kids not 2
@brendab.5111
@brendab.5111 6 месяцев назад
He is awful too. He is the one who demanded that all three children have DNA tests done, because he didn’t think they were CW’s, including Nico. The DNA tests were done and all three were CW’s. That was when he then demanded a portion of the insurance settlement. Ewww.
@desert_moon
@desert_moon 6 месяцев назад
Chris's parents remind me of my ex inlaws. They never believed my children were my husband's either but every single one of them was his. He was the one effing around, not me.
@kimberlyelliott7933
@kimberlyelliott7933 4 месяца назад
😮😮😮
@marshnn
@marshnn 4 дня назад
Dear God the Watts family are really weird
@tammyloustorydickerson4447
@tammyloustorydickerson4447 7 месяцев назад
The thing is.... Once they realized she had lied pretty much every breath... She should've been interrogated after that...
@betsyvanek9275
@betsyvanek9275 7 месяцев назад
W/O her daddy there....
@brendab.5111
@brendab.5111 6 месяцев назад
So she’s gone off and is now living her new life with her new man. Of course. She knew everything and maybe, might have had something to do with it. He was texting her non-stop while he was in Nate’s house, so she had to know. That, and I don’t believe she was ever into him. He was played. Now he sits in jail, looking all befuddled as his mother practically congratulates him, and he can’t connect the dots. His mother starts vilifying Shanann again to him, and he tells her to stop. That Shanann was a good woman, and his mother, seeing he doesn’t go for It, quickly flips back and says oh yeah, yeah she was. And he still doesn’t get it. What a bunch.
@marjoriemorse9229
@marjoriemorse9229 7 месяцев назад
I’ve commented about my personal views on the Watts family and been raked over the coals by Watts apologists, but I stand my ground. He is an evil despicable monster and his family is even worse, imo, in their tone deafness and pernicious need to support his behavior at any cost. It’s mind boggling.
@i.aint.1.of.ur.little.friends
@i.aint.1.of.ur.little.friends 7 месяцев назад
I always felt they were not reacting to chris' heinous actions the way I feel literally anyone else would. The horror that would wash over me, knowing my child killed his wife and my grandchildren. What he did and who he did it to compound that horror. I expected much more emotion and shock whenever his mother spoke, and it's not there.
@lindajackson2382
@lindajackson2382 7 месяцев назад
So you can SEE why Chris Watts is like he IS! Why? Obviously because of that MOTHER OF HIS, CINDY WATTS!!
@lindajackson2382
@lindajackson2382 7 месяцев назад
​@i.aint.1.of.ur.little.friends No it's NOT AT ALL!
@TaraVixen
@TaraVixen 7 месяцев назад
EXACTLY!! I have a 9yo grandson & there is NO way I would support my son like this if he killed my daughter in law & my grandson & then disposed of them like that. I would obviously still love him but I would NEVER go on national television and defend him whilst running down my daughter in law or her parents that are going through such incredible loss! NOTHING excuses what he did! It’s simple it’s called DIVORCE!!! Many fathers disappear out of their kids lives & don’t pay maintenance! He knew she was perfectly capable of raising those 3 children on her own. He knew she was surrounded by love & support & would be perfectly fine on her own. She had stood on her own 2 feet before he came along, build a career and her first home without him. But he could not let her do that! That to me tells a LOT about just how evil he really is & im sorry but if one of my kids did that I would NOT forgive them, make excuses for them. My son left his GF when she was 6months pregnant & I stood by her. He did this multiple times through the first 4yrs of my grandsons life and each time I stood by her and took them in to live with me! Her & my grandson where my priority! He was only 19yo when she got pregnant but I STILL would not make excuses for him. When everyone used that as an excuse I said he was old enough to know about contraception and how babies are made, he had options he did not take so needed to accept responsibility got those actions. Thankfully he grew up and when my grandson was 4yo he finally stepped up & I helped him get their first place on their own and he has been with them ever since! My grandson is now 9yo and he is a fantastic father. I was not going to condone his behaviour previously and he learned I would always stand by my daughter in law & my grandson. I faced her family & said I was ashamed of his behaviour & would always be there for their daughter and our grandson. That United support set an example to my son. I simply could not look at my son again if he had done this & I would be 100% giving my love and support to HER family and what they are going through. For Chris’s parents and sister to not even go to their grand-babies funeral I think says it all! NOTHING could stop me from being at that funeral. If they had supported Shanann’s parents and actually shed a tear over their loss they would have been welcomed at that funeral, but to act the way they have is an absolute DISGRACE!! I’ve never seen them shed a tear for their grandchildren and that says a LOT to me about why he is as cold and detached as he is. I would be so grief stricken & ashamed I could not even bring myself to mention my kids name let alone try to put blame on the victims, it’s just disgraceful how they have behaved. 😢
@MKConnecticut
@MKConnecticut 7 месяцев назад
Very disturbing reaction by CW family- it would take me years to get that murder out of my mind- if ever- if my child did that. Even if Shanann was somehow “understandable “ to the watts family (it’s not) , how do they rationalize those girls and their grandson? It’s just incomprehensible
@joycetheobald1717
@joycetheobald1717 7 месяцев назад
This case happened on my 46th birthday, and I'll NEVER forget them. Rest in peace, Shan'ann, Bella, CeCe and Nico.😢❤
@GarrettPederson253
@GarrettPederson253 7 месяцев назад
The fetus wasn’t born so it wasn’t a person yet! It’s just a clump of cells!
@ginniedio1860
@ginniedio1860 7 месяцев назад
It was my 57th birthday and I think I feel the same as you. 😔 ❤
@DeeBullock1836
@DeeBullock1836 2 месяца назад
@@ginniedio1860my 57th birthday also….i still get teary watching to this day…those beautiful baby girls…..just stabs me…at least all 4 are together now and nothing will ever harm them again❤️❤️❤️❤️
@mavislami2872
@mavislami2872 4 дня назад
How's that going for you Chris and NK, Chris your being held responsible for the murders of your whole family, NK IT''S YOU NEXT, KARMA IS HEADED YOUR WAY NEXT
@elizabethsmith2083
@elizabethsmith2083 7 месяцев назад
His parents didn't deserve a penny of the insurance money that Shannan's parents should have got all of the money
@rosettamccoy6123
@rosettamccoy6123 7 месяцев назад
Who did get the insurance money iv never heard anything about it
@alexandriacarter2710
@alexandriacarter2710 7 месяцев назад
I never understood why his family got one cent. All Cindy did was talk pure trash about Shannan
@peonypink9149
@peonypink9149 7 месяцев назад
@@rosettamccoy6123it was supposed to go with the estste to ShanAnn’s family and CW also said this. Cindy Watts took ShanAnn’s family to court to get a share of the insurance. Just disgusting. So it didn’t all disappear in lawyer’s fees it was settled prior to court and the Watts got some of it. They got it on a technicality- they lost the grandchildren. However, how disgusting do you have to be to want money from ShanAnn’s family when the Watts son killed their daughter. Their son killed the Watts’ parents’ grandchildren. I couldn’t believe that they succeeded in that. That is where the law needs a change…….
@Valerie-ol8qs
@Valerie-ol8qs 7 месяцев назад
Incroyable 😳maintenant la famille des meurtriers reçoivent une part de l'assurance..mais, il y a qu'en Amérique que l'on entend des choses comme ça..nous en France, il y a que la partie civile qui reçoit une indemnisation jamais un membre de la défense recevrait un euro mais ça ferait scandale chez nous le juge, il saute...Incroyable je suis choquée d'apprendre ça.. c'est la famille à Shan'ann qui est la VICTIME et non les watts ..
@GarrettPederson253
@GarrettPederson253 7 месяцев назад
Who are you to say what somebody deserves??
@The-Snooper
@The-Snooper 7 месяцев назад
I think the girls when at the beach could just feel his evil. Bella looks so hesitant with him in the video. Children are so innocent and have intuition. Dear God....
@TaraVixen
@TaraVixen 7 месяцев назад
Yes I noticed at one point he tries to take CECe’s hand but she refuses and calls out for her papa (Shanann’s dad) the kids were definitely picking up on a vibe from him at the beach & even at the airport
@Angelinathegirlyoudontknow
@Angelinathegirlyoudontknow 7 месяцев назад
True, but Remember though they went for holiday for long time with grandparents, Chris joined them i think last week or two. A lot of time spent with grandparents, when “daddy” finally shows up their reactions will be hesitant towards own father.
@CBrown86
@CBrown86 7 месяцев назад
@@AngelinathegirlyoudontknowDaddy also poisoned Shanann with oxycontin when he was in NC with them. The kids knew something was up. Why did Mommy get so sick as soon as Daddy showed up?
@goddammitalana
@goddammitalana 7 месяцев назад
All animals and all humans have intuition.
@junebuchholtz287
@junebuchholtz287 7 месяцев назад
​@@AngelinathegirlyoudontknowShannan had text her friend saying in the past few weeks before they had left he was very short with the girls... his girlfriend really did a lot of damage
@angiebelieved
@angiebelieved 7 месяцев назад
He looked more worried during the showing of the surveillance video than when he was speaking in front of the media
@spnikita35
@spnikita35 7 месяцев назад
You can clearly see where Chris got his narcissistic and sociopathic behavior from. She appears just as cold and unempathetic as her son.
@babswhite8190
@babswhite8190 7 месяцев назад
Yeah,NK is one piece of work! I found it interesting the HUGE difference in her body language when shes in the presence of a male vs female.. having Lee interrogate NK would have been great! She wouldnt have been leaning back her chair suggestively, I guarantee!
@horrorgirl688
@horrorgirl688 7 месяцев назад
@zowoki Tammy said she felt cheated. She said she still had people to interrogate. She was shut down. He confessed. She said she wasn't able to finish her job. It's why they went to the jail bc they wanted to know if NK was involved. They wanted him to roll on her, and he didn't. She felt he like she wasn't able to do her job. I think Chris's parents don't believe he killed the girls. I think they want to believe shanann actually killed them. They really don't know what happened bc I don't think they know their lives were threatened. That is what I believe. I think NK killed the girls. He is just as bad, though, for allowing this.
@TaraVixen
@TaraVixen 7 месяцев назад
Yes I watched that too! It was so good hearing how Tammy felt sick going in that room with him & how she had to pretend to have sympathy for him etc to get him to talk. I just said to Zowoki in a comment that he needs to do a video on her about the amazing job she did.
@juanitar032
@juanitar032 7 месяцев назад
Have you noticed what Chris says in the interview, listen to it. He said that he didn't want to protect her. Everyone takes it as protecting Shanahan, but he really meant nickol.
@Zowoki
@Zowoki 7 месяцев назад
I felt the same about that too!
@juanitar032
@juanitar032 7 месяцев назад
Part 2 because his father & mother knew that he was cheating already, because how can they take the news so calmly.
@juanitar032
@juanitar032 7 месяцев назад
U see, me & u see I to eye.
@absinthealice
@absinthealice 7 месяцев назад
He also can be heard, during the interrogation, saying "we" a lot. As in "we dug the hole"... CW slips up often.
@juanitar032
@juanitar032 7 месяцев назад
Besides gypsy rose, Cindy watts & the prosecutor I seriously have issues with them.
@paulajackson8416
@paulajackson8416 7 месяцев назад
Chris is a compulsive liar. Im not sure if you can believe anything he says.
@christinecheeseman
@christinecheeseman 7 месяцев назад
He must have always been a liar
@absinthealice
@absinthealice 7 месяцев назад
Covert malignant narcissist, just like his mother.
@christinecheeseman
@christinecheeseman 7 месяцев назад
@@absinthealice he has no feelings
@jesuschild5167
@jesuschild5167 7 месяцев назад
Hey Zowoki. I just wanted to say how proud I am of you for having 41,000 subscribers, almost 42,000. Also, your amazing work on the Watts case. I have learned so much already and it's all because of you!
@Zowoki
@Zowoki 7 месяцев назад
You're the best! Thank you so much! :)
@Kahlalily
@Kahlalily 7 месяцев назад
It is kinda crazy she wasn't pushed like Chris was during interrogation. Imagine how much more information would have come out if they were talking to her like they were CW.
@jecarlin
@jecarlin 7 месяцев назад
Heck, they went harder on the gay guy who went to the police claiming he hooked up with CW. They straight up told him they didn't believe him! Where was that energy when they interviewed NK?
@Alibali_55
@Alibali_55 7 месяцев назад
Can't thank you enough for all your content about this case ! You present this so well ....keep going for justice for shannan and her sweet babies, ❤
@MKConnecticut
@MKConnecticut 7 месяцев назад
If he was texting NK while watching Nate’s video- NK knew it all
@kimberlyelliott7933
@kimberlyelliott7933 4 месяца назад
Exactly 💯
@Rangyroth4089
@Rangyroth4089 Месяц назад
Wouldn't his phone show this? I wonder who he was texting so much in that video on the 13th afternoon? I wonder what his records state? Are they in the discovery?
@tammyloustorydickerson4447
@tammyloustorydickerson4447 7 месяцев назад
Yeah, she doesn't even have remorse for her 3 grandchildren!.. OMG!!
@silvanamiller809
@silvanamiller809 7 месяцев назад
Yes why wasn’t this in the Netflix series, the truth needs to come out, Cindy Watts needs therapy. She does not care about those little babies and Shanan she never did. It’s all about Chris.
@pumpkinfield100
@pumpkinfield100 7 месяцев назад
And you drink vodka every morning. I guess I can make some random statements just like you did, fair is fair
@serious323
@serious323 7 месяцев назад
It's like HBOs doc on the west Memphis three. they left out so much it's ridiculous and never once did it feel like it was about justice for the kids. Many things they claimed in it were proven to not be true and they pushed for people to think it was one of the dads after they already failed at blaming one of the other dads. they even failed to mention that another supposed cult were suspects but that they were cleared because it was never about satanic panic.
@gabrielacard7050
@gabrielacard7050 7 месяцев назад
TF is wrong with you ?! Shanann did care for her daughters the one that didn’t give a shit about them was Chris watts .
@serious323
@serious323 7 месяцев назад
@@gabrielacard7050 they are saying that Chris's mom never cared for SW. I had to read it twice myself. It's just the way it's worded.
@lindajackson2382
@lindajackson2382 7 месяцев назад
Exactly!!
@kellybell1772
@kellybell1772 7 месяцев назад
And poor Nicole Atkinson had to go through the battle of her life without her friend. I will forever be in Shananns corner. She would have beat the shit out of NK and I do think they got into a fight that morning. It wasn’t CW and Shanann. But Shanann and NK. I think Shanann didn’t have a chance against those 3(4?). Shanan was much more beautiful than NK.
@robinnicholls8908
@robinnicholls8908 7 месяцев назад
I have always been of the opinion that the mistress attacked Shanann. Nothing has ever made me feel that there was someone else who was responsible.
@brendab.5111
@brendab.5111 6 месяцев назад
The autopsy shows that Shanann’s jaw and face were bruised. (The autopsy report is on another Zowoki video). I don’t remember how seriously, but enough to show up in the examination. I think CW punched her face. I also think she miscarried because he struck her in her stomach too. (Shanann was too feisty to just let him just c***e her). He didn’t want the baby, so to me that is not a reach. He is capable of anything.
@user-cj9vg4rc2x
@user-cj9vg4rc2x 6 месяцев назад
Read to altopy
@i.aint.1.of.ur.little.friends
@i.aint.1.of.ur.little.friends 7 месяцев назад
Shanann was smiling up to her eyes and you can see genuine happiness in her face in many of the photos we see. Its difficult to fake that. If she was unhappy around her friends or in the pics with her husband i feel like it would be seen in the eyes. In some of the older family photos, chris looks genuinely happy, but now that i look at the most recent family photos and videos, his face looks empty. I believe he had been distancing himself from her more and more for quite some time. She started really picking up on it closer to the end, but noticed far earlier in little ways. processing everything internally, keeping it to herself for a while. Maybe Shanann needed to be sure and his behavior after her and the girls went away for those six weeks solidified it for her. I feel like he had to know nk much longer than they claim.
@absinthealice
@absinthealice 7 месяцев назад
Absolutely. I believe they were together, CW AND NK, at least since 2017.
@GarrettPederson253
@GarrettPederson253 7 месяцев назад
She was a bad wife
@wetaswetwipe
@wetaswetwipe 7 месяцев назад
I agree about the older vs. newer pics. He looks so plastic in the more recent photos; he reminds me of a bobblehead.
@user-yl9lv7ul8n
@user-yl9lv7ul8n 7 месяцев назад
The way his mum talks to Chris, my god it’s so revolting 🤮🤮
@jimmyandtaylorperry7735
@jimmyandtaylorperry7735 7 месяцев назад
I don't think Cindy truly loved Bella and Celeste. In Cindy's eyes, they were only Shanann's kids. It's how Cindy can easily focus on what she thinks Chris needs as opposed to feeling immense pain from the loss of her grandkids. They were Shanann's kids, so they don't matter.
@NV_SunshineRush13
@NV_SunshineRush13 7 месяцев назад
She proved my point. Chris wasn't smart enough, he wouldn't have gotten away with it
@user-ww1nb3oo1w
@user-ww1nb3oo1w 7 месяцев назад
Cindy just as Evil as her son Chris the monster.
@GarrettPederson253
@GarrettPederson253 7 месяцев назад
Nope! Cindy was right about Shenaan and Momma is always right! Chris should have listened to his mother
@lightningbug276
@lightningbug276 7 месяцев назад
I don’t think she is.
@GarrettPederson253
@GarrettPederson253 7 месяцев назад
@@lightningbug276 she not! She was a good Mother
@dukey19941
@dukey19941 7 месяцев назад
​@@GarrettPederson253 🤣🤣🤣🤣She is a horrible mother. My God, she doesn't give two rats about her grandkids. She raised a narcissist because she herself is a narcissist. No wonder Ronnie did blow.
@dukey19941
@dukey19941 7 месяцев назад
@@GarrettPederson253 No not even close. She has a weird obsession with her own son. Gross.
@karaprince2844
@karaprince2844 7 месяцев назад
He accidentally sent the pic of the doll to Shannon. He meant it for Nicole.
@Zowoki
@Zowoki 7 месяцев назад
Still it was a HUGE SIGN!!
@karaprince2844
@karaprince2844 7 месяцев назад
@@Zowoki It was demented. It makes me sick. Sometimes, I think about writing Chris just out my own curiosity.
@user-ho6vf5wp9k
@user-ho6vf5wp9k 4 месяца назад
😢 it breaks my heart
@CynthiaKing-tx1vl
@CynthiaKing-tx1vl 7 месяцев назад
Just look at Cindy's face while talking about Shananne. Evil woman! What grandma would try to harm her granddaughter? EVIL!!!
@brendab.5111
@brendab.5111 6 месяцев назад
Shanann had told her about the kid’s food allergy, so what does she do? She deliberately put the peanuts out there. She was very hostile and spiteful to Shanann, even if it hurt the kids. Empty inside.
@Spiritual-lady
@Spiritual-lady 7 месяцев назад
The one thing I have noticed with Cindy Watts is that she has never shown any emotion towards those grandchildren of hers being murdered, to me she is not just narcissistic she shows traits of psychopathy. She never sheds a tear 😢
@jenniferseals3642
@jenniferseals3642 7 месяцев назад
I don’t think CW was wanting out of his marriage or family until NK hunted him and presented an “out”. I think NK told him he was miserable. He got caught because he did what NK told him for clean up and he was unable to do real clean up. And his mother and father need to have some shame. They have zero compassion for SW and the kids. It’s pathetic the way they all fuss and coo over him. He just killed his family- and they act like he dropped some eggs. Sad and pathetic.
@PettyBettyOnTheCase
@PettyBettyOnTheCase 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for all you do for this case.
@Aim_in_Cleveland
@Aim_in_Cleveland 7 месяцев назад
Exactly
@lindapeters9999
@lindapeters9999 Месяц назад
💯 appreciate all the effort your doing.Your awesome 😊
@silvanamiller809
@silvanamiller809 7 месяцев назад
Hi Nick you are doing amazing work for this case, I am watching your videos from Australia 🇦🇺 😊👏🏻
@crazycatladyoftullamore5176
@crazycatladyoftullamore5176 7 месяцев назад
Same here! 🇦🇺❤️
@juttadestiny6810
@juttadestiny6810 7 месяцев назад
Me too from sydney 💜🇦🇺
@crazycatladyoftullamore5176
@crazycatladyoftullamore5176 7 месяцев назад
@@juttadestiny6810 I'm in Tullamore a very small country town in the middle of nowhere NSW 🇦🇺🤠❤️
@juttadestiny6810
@juttadestiny6810 7 месяцев назад
@@crazycatladyoftullamore5176 ❤️😸
@jennidewar9744
@jennidewar9744 15 дней назад
Me 3 from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
@crystalfaulkner1777
@crystalfaulkner1777 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for doing these videos with little to no profanity because most often I watch with my kids present.. so thanks for that ❤
@Zowoki
@Zowoki 7 месяцев назад
You are so welcome!
@Limuh2
@Limuh2 7 месяцев назад
Real, not snarky question, but you would rather have your kids know a parent can kill their mother, and them, suddenly, without warning, but no "bad words"?
@ericapaul7989
@ericapaul7989 6 месяцев назад
@@Limuh2literally took the words right out of my mouth!!
@auroramartini-cv3tx
@auroramartini-cv3tx 7 месяцев назад
I think Tammy sums it up when she said that they were getting ready for years of getting ready to bring watts to court. Tammy says they had more interviews with witnesses etc to do and further investigations. Sadly when Chris confessed the case was shut. Obviously she couldn't override the decision of the DA. Hopefully all the people discussing this to this day, will either force further investigation or sadly we might need to wait until there is a new DA in Colorado.
@CREEPYNEWSTEAM
@CREEPYNEWSTEAM 7 месяцев назад
Shanann and her babies will always be on my mind.... I'm trying not to obsess over this case, but it's very hard for me not too. I'm the same age as Shanann, and I also have 2 children.. She had so much more life to live in this world, She was a beautiful mother and her story will not be silenced. Peace and love Zowoki and chatter. ❤️
@user-ws1dm9co1e
@user-ws1dm9co1e 7 месяцев назад
Keep doing what you do!!!! This case is on my mind daily!!! I agree, this will not stop until NK is trialed and put behind bars. So sick. Shan’ann, Bella, CeCe & Niko were beautiful souls and I can’t believe how someone could hurt them. CW is where he should be and others need to join him. Thank you Nick for all the info and hard work. You rock 💜
@Zowoki
@Zowoki 7 месяцев назад
YOU ROCK TOO! Your too kind!! Thank you!@
@TaraVixen
@TaraVixen 7 месяцев назад
@@Zowokikeep going!! We are ALL behind you on this 🥰 and thank you for keeping up the fight! You should do a video on Tammy talking about how had it was for her to look sympathetic to Chris & how sick she felt doing it, it’s amazing to hear what she was really feeling verses what she put on for him, she is INCREDIBLE at her job & im so glad I watched the video because I could not understand she was putting it on for him!! Amazing!!
@Ross70MD
@Ross70MD 7 месяцев назад
With all due respect the Netflix documentary really blew this case up and brought it to the attention of people all over the world.
@Arina11301
@Arina11301 7 месяцев назад
Justice for Shanann, Bella, C.C, & Nico ❤❤❤❤ Fly with the angels 😢
@GarrettPederson253
@GarrettPederson253 7 месяцев назад
“Nico” wasn’t born yet! I thought “unborn fetuses” were just clumps of cells??
@Arina11301
@Arina11301 7 месяцев назад
Nico was a baby no matter what shape or form.. he was already forming into a child.. he has his little wings too 😇
@GarrettPederson253
@GarrettPederson253 7 месяцев назад
@@Arina11301 life beings at conception! Your damn right that was a baby! Just like every baby in the womb
@desert_moon
@desert_moon 6 месяцев назад
Nico's heart stopped beating too. 4 deaths.
@GarrettPederson253
@GarrettPederson253 6 месяцев назад
@@desert_moon yes because we all know Life begins at conception! Once a life always a life
@christycrawford3710
@christycrawford3710 7 месяцев назад
I have watched the Netflix documentary so many times I’m worried I’m on a list 😬
@paulanichols5961
@paulanichols5961 7 месяцев назад
😂
@RosemaryDrone-zy2eh
@RosemaryDrone-zy2eh 6 месяцев назад
Along with many more of us! Lol
@miashiva
@miashiva 7 месяцев назад
I wasn't able to listen to the whole prison phone calls, cause it made me want to throw up. The psychopathic murderer reminds his narcissistic mother who's new religion is blaming Shanann that the wife he killed was a goid woman, too. Sorry, way too much for me to take. Cindy Watts is a big reason Chris Watts is a psycho.
@CREEPYNEWSTEAM
@CREEPYNEWSTEAM 7 месяцев назад
CINDY WATTS. EXACTLY.
@CREEPYNEWSTEAM
@CREEPYNEWSTEAM 7 месяцев назад
All these evil people around Shanann.
@soniawoodley7805
@soniawoodley7805 7 месяцев назад
He couldn't watch the video footage. He is also constantly texting. Not even pretending to be distressed!
@NV_SunshineRush13
@NV_SunshineRush13 7 месяцев назад
Those tanks that he put his daughters in, they are also technically called "batteries". This also hints in the song lyrics
@jessicamarshall7957
@jessicamarshall7957 6 месяцев назад
tHE LITTLE GIRL LAUGH IS HEARD WHILE THE POLICE ARE SEARCHING THE CLOSET, THEY SAID IT WAS HEARD WHAT IS NOW KNOWN TO BE THE SAME TIME NK LEFT A VM TO CW SAYING SHE MISSES HIS FACE AND SHE GIGGLES.. THIS IS NO DOUBT THOSE GIRLS OR ONE THEM TRYING TO SHOW US NK CONNECTION AND CW IS TAKING THE FULL LOAD
@JeannineSaran-qu2xv
@JeannineSaran-qu2xv 7 месяцев назад
If Chris got to Cervi 319 around 6:40 am and the first co-worker to show up there was around 7:50am, how did Chris Alone dig a grave, unalive each girl and walk up 2 flights of steps twice without his watch showing any of this in just over an hour?? Unless he's really Batman that is an insurmountable task!
@debiparkin3568
@debiparkin3568 7 месяцев назад
That's been my question from day one it's impossible for him to do all alone
@debiparkin3568
@debiparkin3568 7 месяцев назад
That voice sounds like NK
@ItCantRainAllTheTime1988
@ItCantRainAllTheTime1988 7 месяцев назад
Because that’s not how it happened, not entirely.
@ItCantRainAllTheTime1988
@ItCantRainAllTheTime1988 7 месяцев назад
@@Unfassbar-eu6ufA lot of people believe that was a slip up and maybe it was but the way it sounded to me was that he was saying “We” as in the workers and what they had on their company trucks.
@debiparkin3568
@debiparkin3568 7 месяцев назад
@@Unfassbar-eu6uf I remember that to
@mommafine3282
@mommafine3282 7 месяцев назад
His mother makes me sick! That statement “WE KNOW HOW SHE WAS” literally made me wana puke! She grosses me out! U might not have liked her but SHE TOOK DAMN GOOD CARE OF THOSE BABIES & UR SON & SHE LOVED THEM ALL SO MUCH! This woman ought to be ashamed of herself for saying that 🤮
@denisepearce108
@denisepearce108 7 месяцев назад
Mummy’s boy he couldn’t do no wrong 😢
@GarrettPederson253
@GarrettPederson253 7 месяцев назад
Always listen to your Mother! If your Mother doesn’t approve of who your dating it’s probably for a good reason! Cindy did nothing wrong
@MeganVictoriaKearns
@MeganVictoriaKearns 7 месяцев назад
​@@GarrettPederson253You're just as awful as she is, then.
@hallsjuju2400
@hallsjuju2400 7 месяцев назад
I can imagine his mother made derogatory remarks to him about Shannon such as your life will be miserable with her.
@GarrettPederson253
@GarrettPederson253 7 месяцев назад
@@hallsjuju2400 momma knows best
@ashleymcmeakin8590
@ashleymcmeakin8590 7 месяцев назад
Cindy Watts is a huge part of why Chris turned out the way he did. She is 110% all about herself! She even let her son be embarrassed and made him feel unworthy himself when she forced the entire side of his family to skip out of his wedding to Shanann. Why? Well, because SHE had a beef with Shanann. Even at the sentencing in court, which was supposed to be the one time that was truly only to honor that judgement was served for those little girls, baby nico and Shanann, and his mother still took the time to mention she loves him and forgives him and it was so disgusting and tacky to do in front of Shanann's poor family. She could've told him that on a jail call. Lady, wake up, your beautiful Christopher took his bare hands and smothered your two grandbabies and that takes several minutes each and as the ultimate disrespect to their bodies, he forced them into tiny holes, into OIL. God help this delusional POS woman seriously. What a slap in the face to Shanann's family!
@alexandriacarter2710
@alexandriacarter2710 7 месяцев назад
I so agree with you. I am a mother of a son and daughter. I knew when they wasn’t telling the truth. I knew they have faults. This crazy Cindy , all she says was how wonderful he was and everything was everyone else’s fault. She is an evil women. He learned from that women and she still bashes Shannan. It’s still so sad and shocking.
@mariefaucher9658
@mariefaucher9658 7 месяцев назад
Did she EVER confront Chris about murdering HER grandchildren or is she still buying into that Shanann killed the girls?
@disturbingthepieces6395
@disturbingthepieces6395 7 месяцев назад
Didn't even refer to Nico at all, whatsoever...and those phone calls she has with him she sounds like she's trying to talk like a 1-900 operator from the early 90s when talking with her own son. And how SHE just "can't get happy", all about her. Vile.
@sneakersmcgee8968
@sneakersmcgee8968 7 месяцев назад
She’s such a gross and terrible human being.
@christinechristensen6871
@christinechristensen6871 6 месяцев назад
AGREED
@Justice4m.tthewN0rth
@Justice4m.tthewN0rth 7 месяцев назад
After all the lessons I’ve learned from the spiritual realm in the last year. I firmly believe SW spirit was working through NA as soon as she passed on
@JoJo65654
@JoJo65654 7 месяцев назад
Right. That's why NA continues to use her death to make money. She's in high spirits raking in cash for sure.
@sneakersmcgee8968
@sneakersmcgee8968 7 месяцев назад
@Adriana14377based off your comment, neither do the living.
@jessicamarshall7957
@jessicamarshall7957 6 месяцев назад
@@sneakersmcgee8968 OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
@RosemaryDrone-zy2eh
@RosemaryDrone-zy2eh 6 месяцев назад
Sneakersmcgee
@RosemaryDrone-zy2eh
@RosemaryDrone-zy2eh 6 месяцев назад
Lol
@kathleenbartlett5561
@kathleenbartlett5561 7 месяцев назад
I've seen the jail house visit between Chris and his family. The thing that PISSED me off is why didn't Chris's family ask him why did he do this horrific act.
@Justice4m.tthewN0rth
@Justice4m.tthewN0rth 7 месяцев назад
These videos help me get thru my day thank you Z boy
@sherikbear
@sherikbear 7 месяцев назад
Thanks to Everyone for Keeping the TRUTH ALIVE 🙏🕊️
@lorryhelms804
@lorryhelms804 7 месяцев назад
I got news for any girl that would end up with Chris. His mama would have done the same thing to them.
@brendab.5111
@brendab.5111 6 месяцев назад
I think so too. If he had done things the right way and got a divorce, then married NK, his mother would have treated NK the same way. Maybe even worse.
@MKConnecticut
@MKConnecticut 7 месяцев назад
They were mentioning you on ATS News live chat just now - in a good way, of course❤️
@JeannineSaran-qu2xv
@JeannineSaran-qu2xv 7 месяцев назад
@Zowoki Could you look into what the shallow grave looked like Wednesday the day they found her please? I ask because it poured Tuesday night and the discovery says the grave was 27" deep and her backside was in the air only 9" deep. That rain would've caused the dirt to settle exposing some of her body but the drone footage shows a perfectly covered grave with no sign of rain.
@taraharrelson4360
@taraharrelson4360 7 месяцев назад
I commend you for keeping Shanann’s family in prospective & not allowing her to be forgotten. I also commend you allowing your emotions to be seen bc it takes a real human to do that, while I’m sitting on my couch doing same thing. We gotta keep her & her babies upfront until NK is brought to justice!!! Keep it going!!!
@mrs.rosekinney4241
@mrs.rosekinney4241 7 месяцев назад
NK will never be the woman SW was.
@user-fe2dy3pu6l
@user-fe2dy3pu6l 7 месяцев назад
Never Ever
@christinedavis5813
@christinedavis5813 5 месяцев назад
@@user-fe2dy3pu6l No SW was a Lady. NK was and is Trash
@shannon3n8
@shannon3n8 4 дня назад
@mrs.rosekinney4241 no, unless she ends up in a 27" deep hole dug by her husband and side piece.
@AKA-ht7ny
@AKA-ht7ny 7 месяцев назад
A son is a son until he takes a wife but a daughter is a daughter for the rest of her life! 😊
@rosettamccoy6123
@rosettamccoy6123 7 месяцев назад
That's so true
@Tina-gg7rk
@Tina-gg7rk 7 месяцев назад
Exactly! My dad always said that to us
@TracyNeeCee
@TracyNeeCee 7 месяцев назад
Interesting fact, the Innocence Project is looking into trying to exonerate Scott Peterson. I have the utmost respect for the Innocence Project and they don't take on a case unless they feel confident that they can get a person freed from prison. I don't know what they have to support his innocence, but it will be interesting to see this all unfold.
@laurajomcnaughton853
@laurajomcnaughton853 7 месяцев назад
Hopefully he doesn't get out.
@TracyNeeCee
@TracyNeeCee 7 месяцев назад
I agree. I don't know how he could be proven innocent.
@christinecheeseman
@christinecheeseman 7 месяцев назад
I've mainly thought he was guilty, but a little bit of me has always thought what if when she went for a walk someone else got her, it will be interesting to see how things pan out with the innocence project
@Sadbuttrue-ThatSwedishGirl
@Sadbuttrue-ThatSwedishGirl 7 месяцев назад
I find that mind-boggling because there where so many things that he did that I personally can't see how he could be innocent 🤯 I wonder what they have for them to believe that he can be innocent.
@sneakersmcgee8968
@sneakersmcgee8968 7 месяцев назад
It’s the Los Angeles truth project, not the big organization that took on his case.
@sarahennemoser8399
@sarahennemoser8399 7 месяцев назад
I believe Tammy Lee knows about Nichole. At their last prison interview they asked him again for Nichole and they said that they would come again in one year. They asked him if they should go after Nichole(!) I think if the situation was really like Chris told the first time, Shanann won’t killed the girls. She would probably yell and throw Chris out of the house..
@Mamallama82
@Mamallama82 7 месяцев назад
Keep going Z but PLEASE do NOT associate with Dave from STTWD. That man has just disgraced the R’s and SW and the girls by befriending the Watt’s and other weird stuff in his FB page and just letting ppl go at SW and say horrible stuff on that page it’s so awful. He posts pics has family pics from CWs parents even went to their home and to the grave site and that is why now there’s cameras there and ppl can’t take pics when we visit the site. He went out there with CW Steelers jersey on!!! I believe it was his but the whole thing was awful and it said no filming and he filmed it! He’s been saying big information will drop regarding NK and Troy and this fire stick meet up and he talks to CW parents and flew over here from Australia to see the house and everything it’s really sick. I’m on a rant now but please don’t involve yourself w him. He’s got theories that are so far out there and disgusting and a disgrace to the memory of SW the girls and Baby Nico. Love your channel have been here since under 5k and love watching you grow! Keep going!
@ItCantRainAllTheTime1988
@ItCantRainAllTheTime1988 7 месяцев назад
Dude I just asked him the other day if he’s been on that channel I spent hours reading comments and there are so many loons with crazy ass theories saying NA and SR were in on it and they were setting Chris up and they hope he will be free someday just crazy ass shit, idk man there’s some weirdos on that channel.
@brendab.5111
@brendab.5111 6 месяцев назад
@@ItCantRainAllTheTime1988. I heard he is getting paid.
@ItCantRainAllTheTime1988
@ItCantRainAllTheTime1988 6 месяцев назад
@@brendab.5111 What do you mean? Who is for what?
@brendab.5111
@brendab.5111 6 месяцев назад
@@ItCantRainAllTheTime1988 Oh sorry. I heard that the Watts are paying him to do exactly what he is doing. They are (or were) presenting it like it is investigating journalism, or looking for “the truth.” But he is not looking for any such thing. His intent is a campaign to smear Shanann.
@marjoriemorse9229
@marjoriemorse9229 7 месяцев назад
That woman (CW) makes my skin crawl.
@kendradaniels1831
@kendradaniels1831 7 месяцев назад
Yes, Z! You are absolutely correct. We do continue researching history to make some sense of it all. We are doing the same with this and I truly believe that we need to continue on with this before it becomes too far of a piece of history! Keep on,Z!!!
@abarzua21able
@abarzua21able 7 месяцев назад
If that was even close to the truth of Shanann killing the girl then y didn't he call 911 after he had his rage & y would u dump the baby's bodies in oil tanks... i knew he was a liar
@niamhmarie4713
@niamhmarie4713 6 месяцев назад
I completely agree after coming down from the rage any normal parent would have called 911 to try and get some help for the kids if anything could be done
@chilipeppa9138
@chilipeppa9138 7 месяцев назад
Nichol k. She was involved some way, their is just many red flags big time, why? Why? Is she hideing and hasn't been brought to justice? This is insane!! I fill she belongs in prison, right along with the evil monster Chris. My opinion.
@user-re7or9ed1u
@user-re7or9ed1u 7 месяцев назад
If he witnessed shannan on the baby monitor, where is the footage
@ItCantRainAllTheTime1988
@ItCantRainAllTheTime1988 7 месяцев назад
They didn’t record, just live footage.
@VintageArt78
@VintageArt78 6 месяцев назад
There are so many misleading things about what this lady is talking about… First off, the nut gate incident wasn’t caused by Cindy. One of Jamie’s kids got a Great Value vanilla ice cream cup out from the BACK of the freezer, (where Cindy had put it because it was made in a facility that also processed nuts) and sat down and started eating it by Celeste. It didn’t contain any nuts whatsoever, it was processed in a facility that may contain tree nuts. That ice cream cup had been previously bought before the girls got there, so Cindy took Shanann and the girls to Walmart the 1st day they were there with them, and spent close to $400.00 on all foods that the girls could eat, and that were approved by Shanann. Ice cream, that was approved by Shanann was purchased as well. Celeste had a fit because she wanted an ice cream cup like her cousin had, and instead of Shanann just giving her a bowl of the approved ice cream, and explaining that she can’t have the same one, Cindy told Celeste that you can’t always get what you want-and that pissed Shanann off. Cindy was just being a Grandmother to Celeste trying to teach her a life lesson, as any Grandparent does, and Shanann got mad at that. Third, when it was time for the girls to lay down and take their scheduled nap, one of the cousins wanted to go in and lay with them, and Shanann said no. She said that they would keep the girls up, and that they had to let the girls have their nap. Cindy told her other grandchild that Shanann didn’t want them in there while the girls were taking a nap (even though that was the truth, she could have phrased it differently) and that’s when Shanann came storming out of the room accusing Cindy of trying to kill Celeste regarding the ice cream. The reason why Cindy and Ronnie didn’t attend the birthday party was because of the consistent bashing of Cindy and passive aggressive comments and posts that Shanann was making on Facebook regarding the ice cream. Ronnie was going to go that morning, but when yet another post came up on Facebook, (the one with Celeste at the beach smiling with a sand bucket) Ronnie changed his mind, and didn’t go. If my daughter in law was persecuting me online relentlessly the week of my grandchild’s birthday party, not to mention how evil I am, etc etc etc…then no, I wouldn’t have gone either. Ronnie and Cindy decided to mail Celeste’s gifts to the house in Colorado instead, in which Shanann then told Nicole Atkinson to send them back marked “return to sender” unopened. My heart breaks for the R’s and the Watts family…..however, Shanann WAS driving a wedge between Chris and his family based on her actions. In my opinion, she completely overreacted about the ice cream, and took the way she was feeling regarding Chris, she took it out on Cindy. Cindy did absolutely nothing wrong that day. Yes, could Cindy be overbearing and could she have jumped to conclusions and had a biased opinion of Shanann from the beginning? Of course…. but that doesn’t mean that Cindy would have EVER wanted Shanann murdered or her grand babies murdered. The interview that Cindy gave right after the sentencing hearing should have NEVER happened, and that was pushed, in fact, encouraged by Kim Kauffman. During that interview, Cindy had been told by Chris that Shanann murdered their grandkids, and Chris killed her because of it. That’s all she was aware of, so of course she wasn’t going to speak kindly of Shanann. Cindy and Ronnie Watts have been blamed up and down for what their coward of a son has done, but you don’t “raise” a murder….you don’t “raise” your son to have no feelings, no emotions if any kind, etc…. Being a psychopath or a sociopath isn’t something you have dreams about for your child. Chris murdered his wife and kids because he’s a coward. He’s was a coward his entire life and he was certainly a coward the morning of the 13th. God forbid he divorced Shanann and just walked away….. that would take courage and most possibly a confrontation from Shanann, but at least they would have been alive, and Chris could have continued to sleep with his skank ass girlfriend. If anyone in this case is a psychopath, sociopath, or narcissist-it’s Nicole Kessinger. Chris Watts- a wimpy ass coward that couldn’t say “boo” to his wife or anyone else for that matter, so he cowardly killed Shanann and the girls and then attempted to hide his betrayal, lies, and deception. He also didn’t give to craps about the R’s having to go through a trail either…. He didn’t want to sit through anything and be shamed. Shame/humiliation is one of, if not the worst emotion an introvert can experience. That’s why he made a plea deal- to make it all “go away” again……. because he’s a COWARD.
@MKConnecticut
@MKConnecticut 7 месяцев назад
I think that “nut” incident is probably very different than they ALL report. But after they skipped the wedding … I tend not to trust Cindy
@sneakersmcgee8968
@sneakersmcgee8968 7 месяцев назад
Because she’s a liar. She likes to rewrite any narrative that shows her in a bad light (so. Every moment of her life). I full on believe Shanann’s version. She was diligent about her children’s health. Whereas clearly cindys son needed a psychiatrist and medication after being raised by her if his actions are any indication. She isn’t just a terrible grandmother , she’s a terrible person.
@crittermetimbers
@crittermetimbers 7 месяцев назад
Watts case and the Chris Coleman case are WAY more similar than Watts and Peterson. The mistress in the Coleman case seemed to fly under the radar too. The toxic Mom too (Coleman’s dad too was a creep though).
@lisamartin4060
@lisamartin4060 7 месяцев назад
I feel the same way, I would love my son still but could never look at or talk to them if they killed my grandchildren. Never.
@lulublueeyez
@lulublueeyez 7 месяцев назад
Good Morning my friend ❤ Yourthe most Amazing human being. Thank you for everything you are doing in this case.i watch you everyday.And I hope we can get justice. Have a blessed day
@user-re7or9ed1u
@user-re7or9ed1u 7 месяцев назад
When I 1st saw this, the part that gave it away was when he was trying to get the ring from the bedroom. So bad acting. The cop stopped him in his tracks at qsr. He even puts his phone down to get the ring.
@lorieicher6547
@lorieicher6547 6 месяцев назад
Dude I just found your site and have been watching you regarding this case. You are awesome. Very endearing and sweet.
@pizzabox1415
@pizzabox1415 6 месяцев назад
I cant stand to see his mothers face you can see the hatred in her face and she doesnt even acknowledge Nico shes just as evil as he is
@calgal5752
@calgal5752 6 месяцев назад
I can’t imagine how frustrating this case must have been for Tammy Lee. She was shut down as soon as Chris confessed. She knew the case was not over…..
@-izziestudios-1655
@-izziestudios-1655 7 месяцев назад
Momma Watts is HIGHLY DISTURBED.
@jessicamarshall7957
@jessicamarshall7957 6 месяцев назад
AND HER OFFFSPRING
@juliaharris2780
@juliaharris2780 7 месяцев назад
CHRIS HAD NO LOVE FOR HIS BEAUTIFUL WIFE SHANNAN AND BEAUTIFUL GIRLS BELLA CECE AND BABY NICO,HE SAD HE FOUND GOD AND STILL WILL NOT TELL THE TRUTH STOP THE BS AND ROLL ON NK AND THAT'S HOW YOU SHOW YOU HAVE FOUND GOD
@vouladracopoulos4736
@vouladracopoulos4736 7 месяцев назад
His mother is very cruel. And where was Shannan’s and their children protection and their safery???? She is a Narcisist herself.
@sneakersmcgee8968
@sneakersmcgee8968 7 месяцев назад
She’s one of the most terrible people I’ve ever seen attached to a tragedy like this. She’s gleeful her son murdered shanann because she didn’t like her and didn’t think she was good enough for her little boy (even though the opposite was the case). Then going after the insurance money from her son’s murder victims. And the people who defend them are just as gross.
@annebrackett1
@annebrackett1 5 месяцев назад
I am grateful to you for being so diligent and comprehensive. Just an fyi... when you talk over the narrator on the clips, I cannot understand either one of you. But when you pause the clip and share your perspective, it helps me a lot. Thanks for doing what you're doing.
@evyswonderland1569
@evyswonderland1569 7 месяцев назад
Remember when Chris said "They or Them was it I wonder if his mom and Nichole helped him. Maybe that is why he refused to say anything and just took the deal as is. It just all makes sense his mom needs to be locked up herself.
@mommafine3282
@mommafine3282 7 месяцев назад
Yes He had a beautiful family. I wish I had half the qualities she had. . Hardworking, honest, organized, the ability to help people & she was a beautiful woman . Kids were precious.
@Spread_hummus_not_hate
@Spread_hummus_not_hate 7 месяцев назад
I am looking forward to when you get to 50,000 subscribers! ❤ You deserve it!
@Feliciamariee28
@Feliciamariee28 7 месяцев назад
Absolutely. Perfectly said if we thought justice was served these videos wouldn't keep going ! Not full justice has been served so theyre still gonna be made !!!! Perfectly said man !
@Bojackbatzli
@Bojackbatzli 7 месяцев назад
I really really believe that NK not only encourage chris to do it but helped. Chris is not innocent , he did but so his mistress
@sneakersmcgee8968
@sneakersmcgee8968 7 месяцев назад
When have you ever texted someone and asked them to prove their location to you randomly in the morning when they’re working because you “don’t believe them?” None of us have done that because unless you think there’s a reason they’d be lying to you, why bother? It was the time he should be at work, why did he have to send a photo to prove his exact location? (Also why didn’t he just drop a pin to her?). She gave some vague explanation about trust and she’s full on lying. There’s only ONE reason she wanted photo proof on THAT particular morning he was at THAT particular site. I’m aghast they didn’t look into her more closely from that piece of evidence alone
@morticialechatnoir6884
@morticialechatnoir6884 7 месяцев назад
Cindy always looks like she smells something bad--and I think it's her😂😂😂
@ryanhogan931
@ryanhogan931 7 месяцев назад
Keep up the great work!!! The gf was totally involved! I hope it comes out someday soon!
@iainbanks7415
@iainbanks7415 2 месяца назад
Usually when you don't like someone's personality or behaviour it's the traits that you dislike in yourself.
@evelyncarbonell1
@evelyncarbonell1 7 месяцев назад
lots of things were left out
@Siobbhan
@Siobbhan 7 месяцев назад
I live in France, and when this came out on Netflix, i knew there was so much more to the story . So i dug up on youtube, and i'm obsessed since .
@NV_SunshineRush13
@NV_SunshineRush13 7 месяцев назад
I'm sorry but I disagree I don't think that Chris was ever in charge of anything until he met NK. And then he wasn't in charge she was in charge of him he was ran over he was a mama's boy always had to have a woman to tell him what to do. Chris was never in charge charge.
@kellymac77
@kellymac77 7 месяцев назад
He saw his mistress on that neighbors cam and maybe another car on video. He was nervous because he was threatened . Deep others involved. This I believe is connected to anadarko and Nk and others. Wide and deep evil . Imo
@christinedavis5813
@christinedavis5813 5 месяцев назад
I think NK and her friend Jim could be Satanists and this was a cult sacrifice and CW had become part of it and her Father could be a Satanist with friends in high places Just maybe
@JeannineSaran-qu2xv
@JeannineSaran-qu2xv 7 месяцев назад
Last question...the autopsy on the girls shows no scrapes cuts or bruises but we're supposed to believe he forced their bodies through an 8" opening without some trauma on their bodies. If you look at the hair on the hatch its much longer than either of the girls hair.
@ItCantRainAllTheTime1988
@ItCantRainAllTheTime1988 7 месяцев назад
Well there’s no other way they could have gone in there cause they had to drain the oil low enough for them to open the back to get them out, but I thought that same thing unless the edges were smooth there should be wounds on them, idk I don’t get it either unless the oil caused them to not be visible they said the skin was coming off.
@ItCantRainAllTheTime1988
@ItCantRainAllTheTime1988 7 месяцев назад
I actually didn’t know the autopsy report said that but I always have thought about how much the hatch must of torn up their skin.
@JeannineSaran-qu2xv
@JeannineSaran-qu2xv 7 месяцев назад
@@ItCantRainAllTheTime1988 That could be I was wondering if the oil could do that since it is very corrosive. It sucks the only 2 people who can clear up all these questions are big fat liars!!!
@ItCantRainAllTheTime1988
@ItCantRainAllTheTime1988 7 месяцев назад
@@JeannineSaran-qu2xv Right, I had to leave this case for a couple years cause I had dug my brain into everything I possibly could and I was getting no where because no one is coming out with the damn truth.
@TaraVixen
@TaraVixen 7 месяцев назад
They did go through the hatch it takes too long to empty those tanks so even though it is horrific to believe he or someone else did push them through. Dont forget that a child’s bones are mainly cartilage at that age it is not yet solid bone so their joints are a lot softer hence why kids are so supple. He said he raised their arms above their heads & put them in feet fist & Bella had scrapes on her bottom from being pushed into the hatch. I think the only reason there was not any note evidence of damage from the hatch is simply because of the state of their skin due to skin slippage. You have to look into the state of their skin from being submerged in crude oil for so many days to get your head around why we didn’t see more in the autopsy. I’m a nurse and had to look into that and that is 100% why we did not get details of more injuries to their skin. Not to be too morbid but the autopsy states testing to Bella’s & Shanann’s hands but could not be done on CeCe’s hand because she had lost the skin on her hands. I Childs skin is VERY fragile so being submerged in oil had completely destroyed the structure of their delicate skin. Also the discovery report goes into more detail about this problem with their skin and how long it took to drain the tanks and all the equipment needed to do that, he simply did not have the time or equipment to do that even with help, it is a mammoth task to empty them enough to open the back access door! Also if he was going to drain the tanks to open the back access door they would have found all 3 of them in the one tank. It would not make sense to leave Shanann out to be found & go through draining a 2nd tank just to seperate them, you would just put all 3 in one tank and save yourself the time & effort and almost guarantee them never being found. It’s shocking to believe but the girls did go through the hatch at the top 😢😢but the skin slippage was too extensive to get more than the scrapes on Bella’s bottom. Shanann’s mum said that the girls hair on top had got very long and was their hair that was found she had no doubt it was their hair.
@sallymaestas4918
@sallymaestas4918 7 месяцев назад
I literally lived 10 min away from these people. Im surprised there isnt more info . Just fron the news on CO i know NK is far more guilty
@kjs0391
@kjs0391 7 месяцев назад
Not that I trust the DA and I with all my heart, appreciate what you're doing. You said you looked into NK. Can you then explain 3 documents that has all be released. 1 Chris's confession. Purportedly he only agreed to signing the full confession if the investigation ended there and 2 that he acted alone 3 NK's father in speaking with the Detective said - you aren't allowed to ask her these questions like (another Detective) said. She 'already signed what she'll talk about'. This all could've been misunderstanding but if you have answers, I'd love to know.
@LABoyko
@LABoyko 7 месяцев назад
Now we know where Watts gets his psychopathy.
@annettethompson8996
@annettethompson8996 7 месяцев назад
Love the hat. Keep on doing what udo. Thank u
@ItCantRainAllTheTime1988
@ItCantRainAllTheTime1988 7 месяцев назад
I never cared for Cindy either after watching this interview it just sounds so terrible she puts Shanann down over and over she’s trying to justify what her baby boy did it’s so sickening and she seems like the kind of person who doesn’t get along with a lot of people she won’t accept that she has major issues herself and to her it’s probably always everybody else who is saying or doing something wrong.
@Becalavelle
@Becalavelle 7 месяцев назад
She didn’t care about her grandkids . Sending peanuts to her grandchild’s birthday when the child was highly allergic
@Tina-gg7rk
@Tina-gg7rk 7 месяцев назад
For me it was when Cindy said in court, we forgive you son, we love you. That was a wtf moment for me. Imagine Shananns parents & brother hearing that 😭💔 Cindy had no love for Shanann & those precious 3 babies
@patanne3680
@patanne3680 7 месяцев назад
Wow. This is so eye opening. Thank you.
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