The Division - The Game We Never Got 

Damn right. I am glad other agree. The constant winter snow something about it... makes it more chilling. Lawl.

I couldnt get into the Division 2 because one had such a good atmosphere compared 2.

@@OnlineHipHopTV the cleaners made me feel pity for them. Can you imagine using flamethrowers in that hot summer heat?

yeah atmosphere is so overlooked in games nowdays...... games of the past seem to look better despite better hardware now.

i just like the didvison 1 becose of the surival mode+

Absolutely, probably the best atmosphere of any game I've played

That is how I feel about it. Personally, division 1 and dying light 1 are tied for my #1 favorite game of all time. Only a few other games gave me that experience that I just can't forget

The whole Christmas theme in New York is simply a atmospheric A-Bomb. And of course there's snow everywhere, making it even more pleasant. It's truly something to remember.

Yes! Div1 and Witcher3. I can't think of anyone else that comes close.

@@costantin75 tell me you never played Skyrim without telling me you never played Skyrim

The problem is pvp. Every company out there thinks EVERYONE enjoys pvp

​@@fartdonkey8290 Absolutely. I really think games like The Division add PVP because they believe it's an obligation. But honestly, I really believe that the game would have been so much better without it

​@@fartdonkey8290cry more. The DZ was the best part of the Division and it wasn't required to play. Imagine going to a cookout and complaining that you can't eat hot dogs because you don't like them... if it's not for you, it's not for you. What you really mean is that you didn't like a game mode that made you feel inadequate. Get over it.

@@OldManShoutsAtClouds I mean, the only thing you’re doing is proving him right. You could’ve made an argument about how PVP has checks and balances, and everyone should have a counter play to them but instead you attacked them personally. If you’re looking to garner more support for people that like PVP, you don’t do it by making more enemies.

That being said, I don’t think the PVP was bad, but when you make the game and RPG in the PVP element is an RPG than teams automatically win. Unless you’re in the top to your percentile of skill, you’re not winning a 1v4. If it was a tactical shooter, then you would have the ability to utilize cover to the fullest advantage as well as positioning. A single player in a tactical shooter could set up an ambush with their sticky bomb gadget, and take out a couple dudes before the enemy team gets a lucky shot off on them. That’s not how it is in this game. I’ll summarize it in one sentence. If you can walk behind someone and blast them in the back with both barrels from a double barrel shotgun and they turn around and look at you like you barely tickled them it’s not a fun game play loop.

I still miss the survival mode. I think you miss something when you leave winter behind

For me the DZ was just frustrating. I'm a solo player and gathering gear in the DZ solo is quite challenging. But when after multiple attempts and hours of playing I finally succeeded in getting the gear and tried to get away with it, some higher ranked player simply killed me and walked away with it. And this happened over and over again, so for me the DZ became a no-go zone. And this is not just a problem with The Division, but also with other games like it. Quite a number of higher ranked players seem to really enjoy killing off lesser ranked players. The stupid thing is that those same players are then bitching about how nobody wants to play the game anymore....... right.

@@tjroelsma As soon as i heard that some of the best items were gonna be in a pvp area, my first thought was "welp, i'm not gonna be able to have them ".

@@emongu1 And that's a real shame, because it kind of ruins the game for many people.

@@tjroelsmai Made friends in the dx got killed a lot lots of loot stolen even a house! But they got back on top and then when my built was better I took the battle to them and could defend myself

Yeah there is so much untapped potential in the series but balance, bugs and exploits…

Yeah tdv1 was way better than tdv2 the first one felt harder the second was too easy

I was in the dark zone day1 on div1 that was such a intense feeling it got me into games like that where you lose your loot on death etc but still none of them felt like dive day1

It was a unique and incredible experience and people ruined it because they made it more casual. It was heart pumping and exciting and you never knew if the group who stood against your group at extraction would attack, there were genuine stakes. Rotating endgame loot vendors would have made it work.

it was a good game, but it was not what they claimed it would be. when they release teasers at G3, they straight up lied about what the game would be compared to what it ended up being.

The winter really sets the mood. Maybe I just like winter clothing

The lighting is ace, the weather is ace, sound design, all of it. The most immersive game i ever played outside of VR no shit... just next level man. A shame they didn't stick with the original and improve it over time.

That's what breaks my heart so much, you have tier 1 level design with a wonderful snow/Xmas neon lights shining off the white frost and snow, all of it gorgeous, with terrible gameplay, we will NEVER get to experience D1 level and snowy time of year again but with good survival style gameplay, what we seen in the original trailer was all lies and it is so depressing

@@EQOAnostalgia This could’ve saved the franchise ngl

Being able to shootout tires and windows just added to it all. Do you know why they took that out in Div2 and claimed every cars tires had deflated on their own from age? In order to improve the detail if your character ( so they could provide a broader range of Cosmetics to sell you) yet still have the game run on last gen consoles they had to free up gpu resources so they removed features like shooting tires. They're claim that all tires had rotted from age and non use doesn't hold up to reality. The time difference when the virus started and when Div2 takes place isn't long enough for that to be true

I still play it farely often. Super fun to chill out and run through. One of my favorite game modes of all time

I wish they made it for free not paid or just make the whole division world like this. needing to survive want medicine water and that dark mooody atmosphere was something man i loved that game mode

I came to play the division 2 from seeing a collab from a gacha game that was based on the survival mode in the division, and what I see in your comment is kinda what I was expecting from the division, I still like the game, but I was disappointed from what I was expecting, the game looks and feels too cartoonishly when i expected to be running around trying to scavenge ammo, only to find the mode is not only not the main game feel but also not even available in the second game As I said, I still like it personally, but something like that, I would have liked it so much better

@@eduardoraul5780 what gacha game?

@@Caviaron Girls' Frontline I looked a little into the actual game after imagining the mechanics, but too little, I wanted really badly to be running around trying to scavenge ammo, find food and keep myself warm, I ended up shooting 3 mags into a guy's head for him to die because he had a name, goofy ahh I don't regret buying it, but the video echoes my feelings pretty well, though I don't mind the cover or the dark zone parts, I also ended up playing back on hard or normal despite being able to get around on challenging later because with how spongey the enemies were it just felt boring and weird to fight them

The AI is a dogshit. Cheaty, having aimbot, mainly the hyena dude with shirt having a gold armor and landing all bullets on me in full auto holding smg sideways up to 100 meters. Black tusk spawning drones. Cover system broken, trained agent cant crouch or go prone to break line of sight, yet true sons can go prone.

Div 1 is still so much better. Download it immediately you wont regret it

@@tabb5818 you will once you get in to the DZ. dead or full of cheaters and 0 matchmaking because of the former

​@@tabb5818Was gonna say the same. Div2 was/is a disappointment comparatively.

That was the dream I held onto for years waiting for the release my heart sank when I realized what it was we actually got

I would still being playing that game if thats the game they made. But Ubisoft is veryyyyyy greedy and out of touch. They truly treat fans like idiots.

I actually don‘t think it would have been a good survival game, at least not in the Multiplayer setting. Granted, urban survival shooters have shown just how good they can be, however I think there were already enough games in that niche on the market and even came out afterwards. The story would have totally taken a backseat in that genre.

​​@@Flarilein in PvP? Yeah, probably wouldn't have been super fun. But I was really hoping for a hardcore Single Player/Co-Op campaign that was more of a tactical shooter than a bunch of disjointed, glorified fetch-quests filled with stupid bullet sponge enemies. I mean yeah eventually I got to the point where I can breeze through with my OP Striker build and wipe the floor when lowering my World Level...but that's just not fun either. Heck, they didn't even make an option to restart the campaign. Even a New Game+ would have been cool. But nope. Don't get me wrong, I like the game we got just fine. The graphics still hold up very well to this day, and the atmosphere is the best I've played in a game yet, with the possible exception of The Witcher 3 (sans the Rubbery Trees) but even then, the game could have been so much *better* than it turned out. As it is, if I was able to reboot The Division, I'd go the Tactical Shooter route, with Single Player and Co-op as the main gameplay options. Zero Multiplayer/PvP - even in the Dark Zone. For Multiplayer options (for those who want it) there would be a Matchmaking function in the Base of Operations, similar to how it is in TD1 right now. The game would not have any enemy levels. Enemy difficulty would be scaled via Weaponry, "Fitness" levels, etc. i.e. Gangbangers vs Hunters - Gangbangers being more like malnourished escaped prisoners, and Hunters being the Pinnacle of Special Operations Soldiers and Mercenaries. Fast, Violent, Stealthy just...Lethal in every way. As the motto goes "Speed, Surprise, and Violence of Action." There would also be survival aspects to consider. Nothing massively complex on the granular level, but things like a bandage system, hydration, etc. Basics of survival. Not everything has to be a sprint from combat encounter to combat encounter. Some mechanics from the Survival mode could even be implemented into the campaign. Perhaps as narrative events, or even just randomly occuring. Freezing/Clothing, Wind/Blinding Snow, etc could all pose challenges to navigating the map properly. Whether negatively impacting your holographic city map - making it completely unreadable - or screwing up Isaacs GPS function. Could also mask sounds, build up impassable snowdrifts, collapse compromised roofing, etc. Like I've said this whole time - MAKE THE ENVIRONMENT IT'S OWN CHARACTER. I could also potentially see some sort of armor system being used for bosses and PvP modes. But it'd definitely take a form similar to the armor system in (CoD) Warzone. Plates with fairly fast breakage, and great auditory feedback when hitting, or getting hit. You'd want such a system to protect enough to be useful, but not so much that it's boring/irritating to play against. Such a system would be implemented by default on forces like the JTF as well (I'd also make them much less dorky and boy-scoutish) and of course The Last Man Battalion. You would definitely have to be more accurate (facial shots would still be instant kills for example) but the armor wouldn't just defeat all thermal offensive options either. I mean it always bugged the crap out of me that things like the fire turret and thermal grenades were so anemic and useless without the "proper build." I mean there's definitely a way to tune enemy encounters properly without turning to stupidly large health and armor bars. That's just straight-up LAZY. Just look at Ghost Recon: Wildlands/Breakpoint... (BP to a somewhat lesser extent, but still.)

Basically tarkov x the division would be peak.

Same. I love the division 1, it will forever be my favorite game. Have over 200 days played in just the division, probably around 215-230 days played in div 1. No matter what anyone says, I will always love it

Same

Ubisoft Already Lied to Us. You can understand when you watch Crowbcat Video.

We got more than you thought

I legit bought a PS4 for this game when it came out. The first dark zone experience changed my views on trusting humanity 😂 always felt like peeing when entering haha and I was 23 when the game came out haha. I always thought if they added cutting the rope on the first version of darkzone people definitely would have needed mental help lol. Like you said one day hopefully we will get the true game so many memories so much fun and frustrations . Met a lot of people from different countries and played for hours.

"to work together" lots o years later and this still hurts, they never gave us any reason to work together

@@AstroAvenger imagine from the beginning, the open world was as populated as the dark zone but you have the 4 boroughs to explore, randomly meet other people to do story missions or whatever. Clean up New York, as they say. Of course it would be a pve only thing and pvp would still be excluded to the dark zone.

Wasn't originally supposed to be like 1 to 2 shot kill just like it would be in real life instead of dumping one to five magazine into an enemy and still not killing them.

The original concept videos was from the Prototyping team -- when the Dev-team took over, they took a completely different route. The videos we saw was vertical pitches, not demo material. Sadly.

@@jesselindsey2263 I’d say the time to kill in the beta was perfect but of course the power crept on the damage and how much life a player could have and it just ruined the experience of a tactical shooter.

Same. I realised I'd never be as good as, or have such optimised builds as Marco but I still enjoyed playing the game. Was also interesting to see how bad the Dark Zone was because of cheaters and build jank.

@@MrAdamske servers are still up, and you could change that with a hybrid build

Lmao bro I’m 19 seconds in, paused the video and came to the comments looking for this one😂same here

You aint seem nothing

Yeah man, it was pretty dope.

Same.

@@imSovi why?

What do you mean by reinvent himself?

@@akllls617 It's like when you masturbate with your left hand instead

​@@akllls617First he was a division player until Ubisoft made 2 which basically killed the franchise. Then we become a Destiny player till bungie kept messing up now he just does whatever he feels like

Yeah I pumped more hours into D1 than all other games combined. So many metas so much grinding

I stayed with till the end, although after patch 1.4, the "Cut the Rope" update, I only went into the Dark Zone for weekly quest. The dev who thought it would be a good idea to give griefers a way to steal your loot after it was on the rope need to barred from ever working on games again. Up until that patch, casual Dark Zone explorers could still get gear extracted by bolting for the rope, after that the Dark Zone became the domain of the no-lifers and hackers, which is a shame and probably contributed to the acceleration of the game's demise.

@@marc-andrerenaud1394 if u care that much then u have to ninja and fake or just go in safe log out and back in til you find a dead server

@@thepandasdoitbetter I sure as hell don't care anymore. It still needs to be mentioned how that one mechanic ensured that players who are new to the DZ would have a much harder time catching up. Prior to that update, once your gear was on the rope, it was in the clear. Somehow, it feels like the devs didn't want that to happen. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@@marc-andrerenaud1394 nah bro i ran dz solo.mulitiple times and was geared to the sky all maxd had my farming routes and eztracts down obviously got ganked many many times but was part of the dz life they even made nomad so crazy for this very reason.........and this ia why we cant have nice things cos players wont take resonsibility....and the main issue was actually the client side hacking people can do.....

Yeah I always play it all December... darkzone and all

The game has a feel like nothing else. Hackers and the other issues ruined it in the long term. Unfortunate and I really really hope they do a division 3 and knock it out of the park.

@@ohnegative9526 i think Marco is right tho it would need a hard reboot to work... you cant add 3 to the end or it would sell cus the first 2 was so flawed... Make it root in drop in like 2025 and call it "Division"... take 'The' out of it and start form there... build that world up from ground up

@Tuelz Live call it DIVISION: The Lost Wave Summary: after several waves of The Division fail to secure the city and slow the viruses progress, a viruses which has mutated several times evading all attempts to kill it, acting Secretary Of Defense Willian Walter's executes The Lost Wave; a last ditch hail Mary like attempt that uses the worst of society. It's made up of ex special forces members from all branches currently serving time for various crimes. Among these is , a former who's serving time for killing his CO, a General who was accused of but never convicted of the rape and death of niece. Not every Lost Wave agent us interested in risking their lives even to get their existing sentence dismissed so all agents are tagged with a microexplosive behind the ear that can be triggered from any where on the planet by anyone with access to the Division satellites and who has the codes with each agent having a unique code. As enters the snow Kaden and deathly cold heart of the city he quickly uncovers a planned coup attempt by several serving members of congress, the white house and the military along with Whitehall Industries ( a major arms manufacturer contracted with the US government) in order to remove the president whom they feel is not doing what is necessary to stop the virus; using nuclear warheads to thermally neutralize all living matter in the city which still has hundreds of thousands in it. It's up to

the atmosphere is insane and still looks beautiful on my base xbox one whenever i decide to play it once in a blue moon

That would have been a brilliant feeling. I on the other hand got to experience a bit of what New York was like from a game :) still it looks like an amazing place. Cheers.

Man I’m so jealous! I’d love if they did eastern washington, we have pretty much all the environments of the US plus the only city over here I feel is *actually* more their scale.

I was twice in NY and thought when this game is out I might become more familiar with the area. Unfortunately, not as I was magin it.

everyday i used to take the B train at Bryant park to go back home to bklyn and hop right back into the city when i turned on my ps4.

damm bro that hard

Div 2 is the worst thing that happened to this franchise

Fr, just roaming the dark zone in VOIP with friends was the most fun shit ever

I just played The Division 1 and I was just thinking about this, the amount of bodies in the infected zone reminded me of those videos that came from India. After so many games about a some sort of pandemic I was just wondering if they manifested covid lol

Even in a negative way TBH

You lucky you didn't encounter anybody in the dz the only o es that are left are hackers

Same, reinstalled just so I could do a little exploring but kind of found myself getting sucked back in

Hackers and meta builds killed the game.

Not that long ago I've still seen massive pvp and crowds of people (10+) in dz, but you gotta play at prime time and in endgame bracket of course.

​@@Ultrasemen till the hackers come

I just want to go back to winter survival, I don't want the summer

You sound like one wholl remain in el pantano and thats nothing a man could want.

Same here, I remember being glued to the screen on all of his speculation videos, my hype was on 11 and when the game went into BETA I was heartbroken. Awful, I hate Ubisoft, the game could have been a masterpiece.

same

He never lied once!

yet at the same time people like him piss me off the most. Justifying your own selfish, tiny dick reasons why you cheat because the company is shit is not a protest. Its shitting all over everyone else and saying its your parents fault. I swear people like that need to be held down and readily kicked in the ballsack.

He is a brilliant content maker he really knows how to emphasize a point and make you get what he is saying. Great observation. Cheers.

Fucking peak comedy 😂 so glad I was able to witness that

He's not wrong. It's ubisofts problem for not caring

D2 is actually getting support now and new story content coming this year. This video is a bit short sided. And right now I'm playing Heartland and even though i'm under NDA, i will say it is good and has great potential.

@@averagegamerjoe8171 whoa you are? If you're part of the test team do take note of that head glitch thingy yoo. Aaaaa I might just give D2 a try on the next Steam sale then.

Sorry I'm late. Don't waste your time on TD2. Horrible grindy, live service loop.

D..k riding

@@HollaIfYaHemi392 you would know all about it.joto

@@HollaIfYaHemi392you’re retarded. It’s called nostalgia. Fucking ignorant

Nostalgia! That was a better time fosho!

And that's a real showcase of how you should produce good content..

2 was dog water

didn't read much, like for the shear effort and length tho

@@iperformm5793 no need to comment that lol

Fr Div1 DZ Had me in a chokehold, Grinded that game from launch for 3 years and had so many crazy good builds😂 Used to go solo manhunt T5 then run everyone around the DZ on a wild goose chase, Game chat with some people have made me laugh the hardest I have in my life

It was a new fresh take, it was a world that felt to scale with the real world, the environment and ambience with the snow, the dark zone was much better, the subway tunnels. I think The Division 2 improves on the variation of builds and the ease of making builds; but the environment/ambience is not as good in Division 2 compared to 1. The Div 2 DZ is also a shadow of its Div 1 counterpart. Also when I say the DZ I mean the early days of the DZ where you didn't have to toggle to go rogue and stuff and the proximity chat was golden :)

The online mode was so much ducking fun. It was a looter-extract-shooter before the were popping.

Like an early tarkov or I guess Vigor.

The Division 1 and 2 really showed off Unreal technology, in a way others do not.

@Lunamaria yes they showed off some serious graphic fidelity especially for the time of Div1. I remember when I first started playing it my father was visiting and he asked me what movie I was watching that allowed me to make choices for the character. He thought it was real. That said neither Div games use Unreal. They're made using Ubisofts proprietary engine called Snowdrop

@@NeverForget1776 shooting through the snowy car windows for the first time 😳😤

Ditto.

Huge missed opportunity by Ubisoft right there. They also released it before battle royale really blew up. They could've cornered the market right then and there.

Survival was the best mode they ever had. Such a wasted opportunity. Only mode I ever played

Survival and Underground was a nice one two punch.

Absolutely. I think if they iterated on Survival and released it as a free standalone with cosmetics etc they could have gone toe to toe with Fortnite etc and carved out a different niche of people who were not drawn aesthetically to the latter, or to the building side of things. Huge missed opportunity. DLC always segments the player base.

they could have had the game run on node servers instead, like Valheim e.g., and thus some servers or instances would have e.g. survival mode enabled. short thinking. hopefully something inspires them to innovate before their next game.

Very wholesome comment. I love the energy coming from it. Thank you

Yeah I remember those days... Widdz and all the console RU-vidrs lole Tuxbird. Was a special time. I literally made my channel because of them and even tho this channel didn't take off I started a second one (my main one) last year and now at 280k subs. I literally thank The Divsion for even making me interested in becoming a RU-vidr all those years back. If a Division 3 was to launch in 100% making animations for it even if they dnt get views like my normal animations. This series was my favorite gaming series next to Halo

Brilliantly said and right on point. Cheers.

I know I’m late but to be honest with you man I’d kill to see Marco in the DZ’s on Div 2 nowadays because he has just been naturally good at the game and since it’s been a while since he’s played a lot has changed.

Can you still play survival? I thought you had to find a game with 3 other players or you couldn’t even start. If you can just join and play alone then I’ll def re download and play. Survival was the best game mode imo

@@Morbidoner On PC you can get a game pretty easily if you're on during the day/evening. Other times it will just search for others players forever lol. I think if you chose PVE then it will start a solo game after not finding any other players which is still fun.

Epic basically set them up because at that point Ubi is a rival. Ubi being greedy took the quick money instead of the smart money. Which in turned burned them, if they're smart they'll never work with epic again

It’s not really skill it’s years worth of min maxed gear. Top Division players aren’t twitch shooters w/ godlike aim like COD and Fortnite players they’re number crunchers or more likely following the build guide of a number cruncher on w/e the meta is. No amount of skill is going to help you when you’re doing 300,000 dps and the other guy is doing 15 million (and yes that’s possible by crit stacking)

Its also the season 10 manhunt xp glitch maxing out cheaters' expertise level enhancements thatvarent having their accounts permabanned. Being monitored and given a second chance does nothing for their manipulated gear theyre trolling with in DZs now that exotics can drop there.

Bruh your here again, moderate fan. I've been making videos that encapsulate that

Survival was my bread and butter for so long. It made the game for me really. Underground was a nice system too especially when you get super beefed up and can solo them. But Survival is the one thing I would take from TD1 into TD2. It was so intense managing to get good stuff and having to face the Hunters.

@@tehf00n yeah, like I remember in so many places in videos regarding the game (mainly trailers) people still were talking about how they wanted survival back. Not gonna lie I almost wish they made a standalone game based around the survival mode type thing. Funnily enough it would fit the bill for recent trends given it’s technically a mini self contained extraction shooter of a kind

@@justarandompersoniguess Yeah its kind of like what Warzone 2.0 did. Go in, kill npcs, loot, get out. They obviously knew the gameplay flow was a good one. All we need is a solid setting and it would work in any game.