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Jimmy... I remember Obama in 2008 telling his voters that if they wanted him to "do" something... "MAKE HIM", meaning that they should get in the street and insist he do something.... which we did but he never did anything for us. That's why I didn't vote for Obama in 2012 (voted Jill Stein) while you voted for Obama again in 2012! So ... there's that.
@@Pine_Gap_Island youre right and he talks about thats why he is so hard on the Dems, because he feels duped and betrayed, like many people of the actual left
You know what? I'm grateful for another perspective. I had never thought I'd hear something about Trump that made me feel like I wouldn't mind if he won. Yay Democracy! Thank you for Diversity! I'm still voting of Jill Stein but I appreciate the discussion.
Never heard of Dore before Chris talked to him. Checked out his stand up and didn't care for it. Don't wanna cancel or silence him but mu critique of him is as a RN. I understand his suspicion of covid as it was handled but I worked really hard to validate questions from my patients and trying to educate. It's a nuanced criticism but I think it's valid Conversations like this are great though and while I don't personally find him funny, I encourage you to belly laugh if you do
@@helene420 Dore has supported and critiqued various dem and rep figures for years. You have partisan brain rot learn how to think about things without the burden of group belonging.
dude i get where you're going but jimmy dore isnt factually rigorous he just says wild shit to be provocative. that's why i never followed him. i had your back since before the real news network dont make me look stupid or the countless others who stood up for you. yes the dnc wasnt grounded in reality but neither is jimmy dore.
Sometimes he is a bit off but most times he is right. He was edging towards Trump /RFK but I guess now he knows that it will be much of the same. He also interviewed Hedges a couple of times. That how* I heard about Hedges. Take him with a pinch of salt.
So Chris can't talk to people outside of the circle you've drawn around him or you'll project everything you disapprove of about them onto him?? Sounds like a personal problem.
JD is the man but I'm so sick of the demonization and bastardization of the term identity politics. There's nothing wrong with fighting and voting according to your own interests, which is all it actually was when the term was coined. It's simply factoring in where identity and politics intersect. Class, (dis)ability, race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. These are all things that inform and are informed by politics. It's voting for someone based on the issues because of who _you_ are and what that has led you to understand about your priorities. It has nothing to do with division or voting for someone because of _their_ identity.
When was that the definition of "identity politics"? Was that in the 1800s?? That's certainly not the definition being used today. Today it's about red team vs. blue team, period.
@@brushstroke3733 1977, actually. Maybe you don't care but it was a useful term in liberation movements of all kinds which is being cynically misused. It's stupid that people don't call it out rather than doubling down. Especially when it's being weaponized against the masses. That'd be like deciding that "workers union" now means "labor exploitation" because the corporate class sponsored groups that lulled workers into compliance and redirected employee funds back to them. If that's the kind of intellectual and political titan you are, more power to you. I said what I said.
@@brushstroke3733 No. It was coined by liberation movements in the 70's. Can't wait until we start calling labor unions " "worker alienation groups" with intellectual/political titans like you at the helm. 😂
@@thenellierose not a fan of Jimmy . However Chris Hedges is always worth a listen. I also give Jimmy having guts for attacking the vaccines while not sure if he was correct.
It was my belief that it should have been an open convention; no anointing of Harris by the back room. Thank you for paraphrasing the late Glen Ford : “The democrats are not the lesser evil. They’re the more effective evil.”
I agree. I like Chris Hedges but I don’t care for Dore. He’s nasty with people he disagrees with on his show - yelled at Cornel West and wouldn’t let him talk as one example. I’m not sure I trust his motives.
I feel disappointed in Chris for associating himself with Jim-Jim. I agree that Chris is head and shoulders and chest and abdomen and waist above the other guy in moral and intellectual stature.
Jimmy was the guy who got people paying attention to the grifting good-for-nothing politicians known as The Squad with Force The Vote (he was actually trying to get them to use their leverage and do something good with it, but exposing them to everyone with open eyes and a brain was a consolation prize). That was Jimmy who did that, not an "intellectual".
“I can’t think for myself or about any individual phenomenon on its own merits. Ive outsourced my discernment to groupish people for the sake of my group belonging.” -partisans It makes you guys retRded
@@shelbzillathrilla I don't see your comment under any of the hundreds of other comments that did not make substantial claims. It's only under mine. What about my comment was so different from all the others that it triggered you?
@@shelbzillathrilla Also, my substantial claims all get deleted, because you know, You Tube favors the side of blind compliance over the side that questions and pokes holes in popular narratives.
Chris Hedges is stooping pretty low with this interview… I can understand the DNC bashing, but to not call Jimmy out on his Trump-supporting conspiracy-minded non-sense? Unconscionable…
Open conventions are chaos from what I’ve heard. Besides, dems needed unity and Kamala brought us together. The enthusiasm is real amongst women and non-white voters. We just need to keep pushing her to change policy on Israeli support, making it conditional.
@@Niko-777Great. Vote for someone based upon their sex and race, all while accusing the opposition as sexist and racist. Does your mom still tie your shoes?
The great Ronald put tax on tips,...ten percent of all bills in a restaurant is classed as taxable income to your server....the multi millionaires of the day needed a tax break....it helped them become the billionaires of today...,thanks waitresses....✌️♥️🇨🇦
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bad move platforming jimmy dore . chris you are going to get fleas cozying up to this grifter. yes jimmy can have some good takes but he isnt genuine with any of it