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The Doors - Self-Titled Debut LP Review And Comparison What Version Is The Best 

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@bab1627
@bab1627 10 месяцев назад
This is your best stuff. Can’t get enough of these. Please, please, please provide one for every iconic album.
@tomwebb7091
@tomwebb7091 10 месяцев назад
You want him to basically give up his business and work entirely!?
@orlandodominguezfm7634
@orlandodominguezfm7634 2 месяца назад
@@tomwebb7091 I mean. It´s only fair. Obviously
@ubnubmaster
@ubnubmaster 8 месяцев назад
I know these are some of your toughest videos to make Mike, but they’re absolutely your best work. Few people have the collection to do this and the knowledge it provides the community is invaluable
@chaky1978
@chaky1978 10 месяцев назад
Great Mike , in my opinion, there’s only a few personalities in the VC that have enough pressings, exposure, equipment, and seasoned ears to properly carry out a shootout, clearly you are one of them and I value your opinions.
@jimmay6786
@jimmay6786 10 месяцев назад
i Feel the same. Well said chaky78 ]
@audiotomb
@audiotomb 10 месяцев назад
Amen - and Mike has been doing this for years - in great detail - unlike other reviewers I always find his calls relevant
@realmackle
@realmackle Месяц назад
I have an 1983 elektra red label stereo that's served me quite well for a long time. Sounds great and has that punchy in your face sound.
@LordVoldemort31
@LordVoldemort31 9 месяцев назад
Love these comparison videos. They’re my absolute favorite from your channel, please do more. Would love to see a King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King comparison
@mcl2462
@mcl2462 10 месяцев назад
Great review I learned alot about my favorite all time record! Thank you! 🙏
@mrmojorisin2595
@mrmojorisin2595 10 месяцев назад
Love these informative videos, thanks Mike! And yes, we need one for each of The Doors studio albums! =)
@audiophileman7047
@audiophileman7047 10 месяцев назад
Yes, I'd like to see that too.
@false_binary
@false_binary 10 месяцев назад
Excellent shootout and loved the constant reminders this was not a well recorded album to begin with. Ty for your subject matter expertise, it is truly fun to know an album in and out!
@tonynewman1694
@tonynewman1694 10 месяцев назад
I have the DCC and AP 45 rpm and love them both for different reasons but this sounds like I am never going to better this in the UK . Was hoping for a uhqr of this album but little point 😁. Mike great video , missed these shoot outs 👍
@astracax
@astracax 10 месяцев назад
I'm in exactly the same boat. I do not own the DCC or AP 45 though. I have an 80s German pressing I bought years ago on the cheap. I have been after a definitive copy of this for ages. Doing a lot of research, I knew people had reservations about the AP 45, and also, the US first pressing Monarch was the one to get. Being from the UK, these are incredibly difficult to find in the UK or even in good condition from the US. If they are in great condition, people demand an obscene amount of money for them. And of course, me being from the UK, there is zero chance of finding one in the wild.
@love2spinvinyl
@love2spinvinyl 10 месяцев назад
I have the AP45. And the VMP mono on its way to me from someone on the VMP Discord. As I recently got myself a dedicated Mono table and getting different Monos where I can to enjoy it. Thanks for this video I do realize they are a big commitment to make, but would love more. I have bought specific pressings because of your shoutout results.
@merv5488
@merv5488 10 месяцев назад
Awesome video Mike! Please do more of these comparisons. This is great stuff!!!
@R3TR0R4V3
@R3TR0R4V3 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video Mike. The Doors are one of my all time favs as well! Might have to track down a Monarch for shits & giggles, but I'm pretty happy with what I have so far.. a NM Allentown 1st pressing, AP45 & the VMP Mono. 🍻
@freightdawg6762
@freightdawg6762 10 месяцев назад
Excellent Mike Thanks for doing these, your system looks amazing
@adolphhernandez7615
@adolphhernandez7615 10 месяцев назад
Hi Mike, another great shoot out! A comment on the sound quality of this video, I was getting distortion throughout. Maybe that's something to look out for on your next video.
@tomdemaline8869
@tomdemaline8869 10 месяцев назад
My all time favorite band as well Mike ! ! ! I just ordered the box vinyl set Live at the Matrix today, cant wait ti get it. Thanks man keep up the good work
@jasonarsenault3791
@jasonarsenault3791 10 месяцев назад
Great stuff Mike. Thanks for putting in the hours for us 😉🤘🏼
@mikep8683
@mikep8683 10 месяцев назад
For those wondering, The Doors S/T was cut at Madison Sound Studios in NYC by Ray Haggerty. You can see Rays' SUPER tiny initials (lower case 'rh' in cursive) in the run-out groove.
@JWD1992
@JWD1992 8 месяцев назад
I heard a Haggerty cut of the Clear Light album, also on Elektra. It was visually G+, but sounded phenomenal. There was some surface noise, but the music itself remained very detailed. It was pressed by the Allentown plant. I can't imagine what even a VG+ copy sounds like.
@juliensullerot1111
@juliensullerot1111 10 месяцев назад
ough !! what a shootout ! thanks for sharing. You are the only guy able to do such a wide informative and cool video !
@Michael69
@Michael69 10 месяцев назад
Great review and comparison video as always, Mike. I first found your channel when you had just started out and made your L.A. Woman review and comparison video. The Doors are also my favourite band (in a tie with Led Zeppelin), so it was cool to see you talk about their music with such knowledge and passion. All these years later, and here's the video for the debut. Thanks for mentioning that the scene in The Doors movie was exaggerated - far too many people take that movie and its many lies as gospel. I love your work and dedication. Thank you from Australia
@pbthal
@pbthal 10 месяцев назад
Hey Mike, great analysis, I waffle between my DCC and Monarch first pressing, I believe there are 2 Gold label cuts with the earliest having the (M) in the deadwax and a little bit later having the (MON) in the deadwax. Subsequent cuts have the (MON-1)
@mlblue5355
@mlblue5355 10 месяцев назад
Question: Mike, should Chad attempt a UHQR for this album or don’t even try? He has hinted at it a few times, I know it’s on his list. Great review of the different pressings! Viva La Doors!
@shineonugrzydieman
@shineonugrzydieman 10 месяцев назад
Whoa - great shoot out Very entertaining and informative
@user-zx1ir7jt4c
@user-zx1ir7jt4c 2 месяца назад
Damn Mike, AMAZING review of this album. The way you describe the sonics and instrumentation is just perfect 👌
@youwhohear
@youwhohear 10 месяцев назад
thanks for your time in creating these shoot-outs! it's helpful information. does the monoarch repress with the gold RIAA award sticker sound as strong?
@goodknight37
@goodknight37 10 месяцев назад
Man I’ve been waiting for this one. Great stuff👍
@animatrollic
@animatrollic 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for another awesome shootout Mike!
@audiophileman7047
@audiophileman7047 10 месяцев назад
Thank you, Mike for doing this excellent shootout on my second favorite rock album of all time! 👍👍👍👍👍 I have been waiting for this The Doors debut album shootout from you for a long time and was just riveted to your video. ❤ I have several pressings of this album, including the treasured Monarch pressing. I agree that the Stereo mix sounds the best. Among all of my versions, I like the Monarch original; the AP/QRP 45 rpm; and the MoFi reissue. My Monarch pressing is about VG+, maybe a bit better. As you said, even in this condition it sounds great. Mood often determines how I want to hear an album. If I'm feeling punchy, I'll go to the Monarch. If I'm feeling more mellow, I can go to the MoFi. The AP/QRP 45 rpm has enough to offer that it ranks in my top three versions of this album. By the way, anyone who tells me that The Doors is their favorite rock band has excellent taste in music. 😎
@alehernandezangeles
@alehernandezangeles 6 месяцев назад
Jajaja, good, because The Dors has been my favorite band since I was like 9, no kidding.
@dundee12
@dundee12 10 месяцев назад
Thank you Mike! I've been awaiting this Pressing Shoot-Out ever since the ERC release. Not just the Doors, but all Monarch pressings from this era have a special "punch" to them. And yes, good luck finding one not chewed up = these were party records.
@LPS-R-US
@LPS-R-US 10 месяцев назад
Excellent. Sounds like the monarch is the LZ 2 RL version of The DOORS. Thought I had one...may have sold it. Have a later Red label and an og gold MONO. PHIL SPECTOR said "BACK TO MONO", but not in this case. Ty ...now I must play my copies.
@audiotomb
@audiotomb 10 месяцев назад
I am happy with the AP 45 stereo. The other doors 45s sound even better as they had broke through and had the best studios at their fingertips Buy these before they are gone
@flamingroove
@flamingroove 10 месяцев назад
I had to listen to my 2 copies, 1967 Monarch and 1967 Santa Maria stereo pressings. They both sound great, my Monarch is a little bit noisier but does sound better. Since I don’t have the mono, I used my mono switch and it sounded good.
@murilohumbertocmcb
@murilohumbertocmcb 10 месяцев назад
I LOOOVE YOUR COMPARISSONS
@surf01er66
@surf01er66 10 месяцев назад
One of my favorite albums, great shoot out.
@Matasky2010
@Matasky2010 10 месяцев назад
Nice surprise for a video! Love it lol
@atrainradio929
@atrainradio929 10 месяцев назад
A life-long massive Doors fan. Thanks for covering this one, Mike.
@Stickermania2853
@Stickermania2853 10 месяцев назад
Mike, I think the Monarch Records vinyl pressings are the best sounding because the pressing plant in Los Angeles was only a few blocks from the record label executives who would visit the plant & make sure the pressings were the best ever. I know Peter Grant manager of LED Zeppelin did this. I personally know that the MO pressing of ‘Led Zeppelin II’ RL cut & the artisan cut with MO on the record label of ‘Exile On Main Street’ are definitely the original pressings to find with the best possible audiophile sound. MR Stickermania (Frank)
@oscar542241
@oscar542241 10 месяцев назад
Condition is key funding that monarch stereo, I've had about 5 copies and only one has sounded superior because of less surface noise
@TripleE76
@TripleE76 10 месяцев назад
I have all the AP45 Doors, good enough for my system.
@Ross1966
@Ross1966 10 месяцев назад
I’ve always considered the stereo mix to be a great sounding recording, especially the Monarch pressing. The Doors subsequent albums lake some of the warmth and air that the first album had.
@Matasky2010
@Matasky2010 10 месяцев назад
The first album is miles better (musically speaking) than the 2 that came after, plain and simple.
@robbiedetroitstigermanviny8883
@robbiedetroitstigermanviny8883 4 месяца назад
I don't know, I have an Abbey Pressing that's sounds pretty amazing also. Great Video!
@christopherarnicar265
@christopherarnicar265 6 месяцев назад
Keep doing a great job.... thank you !
@jessebowman9014
@jessebowman9014 10 месяцев назад
Great video Mike. I don't know a lot about the Doors or this album, so it was interesting to get your take as a super fan! Would you ever consider doing a shootout for "In the Court of the Crimson King"? I have always wondered what the best pressing of this would be in your opinion.
@TheTigersfan20
@TheTigersfan20 10 месяцев назад
So it could be said that the gold label Monarch first press is the RL of The Doors albums. I had a red label copy and no matter how I tweaked my EQ, I couldn’t get it to sound good. Having since acquired the stereo Monarch - before this video, Lol - and HOLY WOW!!! It’s night and day. You hear the difference as soon as John starts riding the cymbals: they shimmer and shine only on this pressing. Same with the bass and dynamics: full and well defined. The gold Monarch is worth seeking out.
@greenalishi222
@greenalishi222 10 месяцев назад
Cool vid. Thanks.
@homersoddishe
@homersoddishe 4 месяца назад
I'm glad I have the DCC. I miss those guys.
@reward813
@reward813 10 месяцев назад
I’ve got a stereo Monarch and although it’s VG it does sound fantastic!
@filipp7611
@filipp7611 10 месяцев назад
Please make more of such videos, thanks.
@jasonsmith9845
@jasonsmith9845 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for the shootout! My main thought watching this was to tell you to enjoy your eyesight while you have it - being able to read deadwax without a lot of help is a thing of the past for me!
@christopher.cordova
@christopher.cordova 10 месяцев назад
The thing with the MFSL and DCC, they really need to be cranked since they’re cut so low.
@junkyardvinyl4811
@junkyardvinyl4811 11 месяцев назад
Welp, cat’s out of the bag on the Monarch pressings. Curious, does the 67 Monarch stereo repress have the same dynamics?
@R3TR0R4V3
@R3TR0R4V3 10 месяцев назад
I think it's _been_ out of the bag for some time now, unfortunately. ;) I'm also curious about the represses..could be a cheaper alternative? Hmm.. 🤔
@oscar542241
@oscar542241 10 месяцев назад
Nope
@dusanradojevic9442
@dusanradojevic9442 6 месяцев назад
Oscar, which repress are you specifically talking about?
@banjammy4116
@banjammy4116 4 месяца назад
I got a doors quad album l bought back then ,played once, l didn't have quad set up , is it worth anything?
@analoguecity3454
@analoguecity3454 10 месяцев назад
Dude, those speakers are awesome! The size of Stonehenge! Looks like the setup for a Metallica concert! I absolutely love it!😊
@Matasky2010
@Matasky2010 10 месяцев назад
Worth a mention- none of those are the 1st Japan pressings with blue 'frog' Elektra labels. Not sure if it's any better or not, but it was released in 1967.
@fredthompson1279
@fredthompson1279 9 месяцев назад
Incredible system. You don't usually see the subs with the big Wilson's .
@boogiewoogie9770
@boogiewoogie9770 10 месяцев назад
In the UK I always look out for the 70's to 80's Butterfly label pressings as they are cheap, sound fine and pressings are high quality.
@dano5876
@dano5876 10 месяцев назад
How about the "Gold Record Award" pressings , they were pressed at Monarch are they the same?
@willburr5929
@willburr5929 10 месяцев назад
The 5.1 DVD-A from the box set is the clear winner.
@zweePOP
@zweePOP 10 месяцев назад
I almost always go with mono when given it comes to 60s rock records (especially psych rock) but I agree the distortion on this album’s mono mix is really unfortunate stuff. and that distortion on mono mixes you get sometimes can work really well (Red Krayola’s Parable of Arable Land is a great example) but the one for The Doors is just too murky
@dimebagdave77
@dimebagdave77 10 месяцев назад
Manythnx, these are always very interesting 🤘 edit: girl we couldn't get much HIGHER..😁
@thebuxtstopshere
@thebuxtstopshere 10 месяцев назад
Love the quote about correcting W&F
@WORMW0OD
@WORMW0OD 9 месяцев назад
Hey Mike! Thank you so much for the videos! I would love to see your review of the new "live at the matrix 1967 the original masters" vinyl. It looks like no one has reviewed it yet, just un-boxings. I highly value your opinion on both doors vinyl and sound quality. Is it way better than previous versions? Thanks again!
@BlackHoleSun1921
@BlackHoleSun1921 10 месяцев назад
Man, I really hope that one of these days you do a shootout of Ziggy Stardust or Love's Forever Changes. I'd be curious to hear your advice on which of those albums to own a copy of.
@jasonsmith9845
@jasonsmith9845 10 месяцев назад
The 2012 Record Store Day release of Forever Changes is really good.
@oldskool1979
@oldskool1979 10 месяцев назад
I have an original gold label Canadian stereo pressing... thats my Go to ! My Mono Allentown press is ok.
@goforthpatrick
@goforthpatrick 10 месяцев назад
Nice review. Can you do the same thing for Strange Days?
@lisafan6365
@lisafan6365 10 месяцев назад
Those speakers look so cool
@fts81
@fts81 10 месяцев назад
Terrific, Mike!
@TheMrgonzalo05
@TheMrgonzalo05 10 месяцев назад
Yo, Mike fire that rig up
@kurtzcol
@kurtzcol 10 месяцев назад
thanks mike!
@MrJasonMeans
@MrJasonMeans 10 месяцев назад
Any thoughts on the 1970 reissue or 1967 repress monarch, or is the first pressing the one to get?
@blakedorman2996
@blakedorman2996 10 месяцев назад
Hey Mike, What about the 7.5ips reel to reel tape!? Where's that rank?
@Jamko1970
@Jamko1970 10 месяцев назад
I really enjoy listening to my 7 1/2 ips R2R. It sounds excellent.
@TheInGroove
@TheInGroove 10 месяцев назад
It does. I almost mentioned it in the video.
@michaeledwards7668
@michaeledwards7668 10 месяцев назад
​@TheInGroove Mike just curios what is the best sounding version of Elvis first record? Is there a good sounding or "audiophile " type pressing ? I noticed you have a first pressing for sale on Discogs, is that the best version? Thx
@danaeloucaidou4991
@danaeloucaidou4991 10 месяцев назад
I think you are a global authority on shootouts
@nelsondesilva3916
@nelsondesilva3916 10 месяцев назад
Miss these sessions
@brewerjordan
@brewerjordan 10 месяцев назад
👍 More of these please!
@mrbill7653
@mrbill7653 10 месяцев назад
Waiting for you input on Eagles 'Hotel California (2Lp/180G/45Rpm Supervinyl Ultradisc One. Step/Or' Vinyl Record LP.
@tomdemaline8869
@tomdemaline8869 10 месяцев назад
Mike is there any chance you would part with one of your gold label Monarch"s? Very interested
@cultvult
@cultvult 10 месяцев назад
Omg! You look like a giant sitting on a Grateful Dead stage, with those speakers lol. Anyway, that album came out the day I was born. Pretty cool. That’s it.
@brandonburroughs7128
@brandonburroughs7128 9 месяцев назад
Mike, are there any versions that you know of that have the uncensored versions of Break on Through and The End?
@trevorbartram5473
@trevorbartram5473 10 месяцев назад
Sacre bleu, Mike have you heard the 1999 Botnick/Grundman 96KHz/24bit digital remaster, how does it rank?
@christophercowles2553
@christophercowles2553 10 месяцев назад
Good shootout, thanks. Guess I’ll just have to stick with my stinky AP 45.
@tomwebb7091
@tomwebb7091 10 месяцев назад
I have no complaints with my AP45 and even my BG 33rpm rinser copy. I enjoy this album on cd and sacd too. Ive never heard a version i thought was so bad i needed to turn off. I definately am not spending more money on trying to enjoy it even more which i likely wont. Searching for a perfectly envisioned (enheared?) sound is a rabbit hole best avoided!
@notmanatee2445
@notmanatee2445 10 месяцев назад
Here is a record that I desperately want you to cover on which version of this album on vinyl sounds the best,the album I want you to cover on which vinyl version sounds the best is the soundtrack to the 1961 film West side story by Leonard Bernstein. Can you compare that album on vinyl please? I don't have a copy of this album yet,I saw the music on vinyl pressing, original six eye stereo pressing,a 6i mono, soundtrack factory pressing,and the normal store bought pressing,and a Phillips stereo and mono pressing,and that's all I know that I came across on discogs except grey market pressings and Japanese record pressings because of what you said about those when you compared mingus ah um LP.
@johncalvo8420
@johncalvo8420 10 месяцев назад
To me, my mono OG of the debut sounds the best. I don’t get distortion from that pressing, but I agree it’s a hot one. But, it is super clear sounding and raw, the drums are super loud, I really enjoy the sound of the snare during Soul Kitchen, it only sounds like this in this mono pressing. My monarch stereo OG is not even close to the mono. I also own all the AS 45rpm pressings and find them ok, not spectacular compared to my OG’s, and the 45rpm format is boring, you lose the flow of the album. The same applies to the mono OG of Strange Days, it is the best sounding copy I own. To me the OG’s are the best, no reissue can top them. BTW not all the monarch OG pressings of the debut are great, some may be, mine isn’t.
@frankvanhelvert6231
@frankvanhelvert6231 10 месяцев назад
which one do you have of the debut monarch? i have a CP[colombia pitman]
@oscar542241
@oscar542241 10 месяцев назад
Also the Mono 2010 tepress doesnt sound too bad
@jackfalco5351
@jackfalco5351 10 месяцев назад
How do you identify a monarch pressing?
@zundap100
@zundap100 10 месяцев назад
This is a killer rock album, one of the best ever.👍
@marczand1351
@marczand1351 10 месяцев назад
Never cared for the sound on a mid 70’s pressing I purchased back in the day. The AP 45 which I own sounds so much better.
@flaviomartins6394
@flaviomartins6394 10 месяцев назад
Oh yeah,i love this videos
@planetwisconsin9901
@planetwisconsin9901 10 месяцев назад
Mastering is everything!
@joangonzales5576
@joangonzales5576 10 месяцев назад
More videos like this. Please
@michaeledwards7668
@michaeledwards7668 10 месяцев назад
One of the best shootouts to date
@audiophileman7047
@audiophileman7047 10 месяцев назад
YES!
@goforthpatrick
@goforthpatrick 10 месяцев назад
Please, post some comparative sound samples!
@sean74chelsea
@sean74chelsea 10 месяцев назад
As I’m from Germany sometimes hard to follow !! So which of the monachs is the number one mike ?
@ilyapisman818
@ilyapisman818 10 месяцев назад
Amazing.
@thomosburn8740
@thomosburn8740 10 месяцев назад
Isn't there also a 2006 stereo remix on vinyl from a few years back?
@RandyShirley
@RandyShirley 5 месяцев назад
I bought the AP 45 box set. My experience is the opposite of what is said here. I kept wondering "Where is the bass?" Mike is saying that the highs were missing! I thought the AP was strident and thin with listeners' fatigue that my originals don't have. Very Strange.
@user-zx1ir7jt4c
@user-zx1ir7jt4c 11 дней назад
SO... is the Monarch pressing cited in this video identified by the "Ray" in the deadwax? Just trying to identity the correct version...
@audiotomb
@audiotomb 10 месяцев назад
Maybe they could do the Peter Jackson AI Revolver Instrument Separation route on this Break on through
@timgibson3754
@timgibson3754 10 месяцев назад
I dug it
@50l12
@50l12 10 месяцев назад
You didn't mention the first UK mono, mine sounds in your face and immediate as you say. I also prefer the mono mix but just me 🤷
@shawnogrady7154
@shawnogrady7154 8 месяцев назад
Aren’t all of these from a LEDO tape (whether 1st gen, 2nd gen etc.)?
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