omg thank you for taking the time to watch my video and i’m so happy to hear your thoughts 🩵 i will touch on this just cause it’s important to me, but both franchises i mentioned in my video come from companies/organizations that allow for fan art to be monetized and actually encourage the selling of fan made projects and crafts up until a certain monetary amount per year hence why i mentioned them specifically lol! i’m crazy passionate about supporting small businesses but not crazy passionate enough to confess to a crime 😂 thank you for sharing all your wonderful thoughts though, this is such a powerful message and just !!! ahh!!! thank you!🩵🩵🩵
Thank you so so much for popping by and clarifying that. I will pin your comment so people can see your clarification. I did try and research if FNAF allowed fan art but I clearly looked in the wrong place :) But really great to know, I really appreciate that. :D and dont worry, even if they didnt, you as a buyer would not be being a criminal :D. Thank you so much for your kind words and your lovely video in the first place. It is so so important for us sellers to see the buyer experience, which sadly is really lacking. I hope Etsy see your video and make some changes
That's a totally valid point of view. I don't think the method of POD is the problem, in fact, it is often more environmentally friendly, massively reducing shipping distances, however the sheer volume of poor POD products and lack of Etsy search algorithm transparency has led to traditional sellers getting buried in the mass of mediocrity.
I am a POD seller creating my own original art and designs that are made by hand on etsy. What I find disturbing are the POD sellers claiming to be artists, reselling handmade items someone else made, copying my art, using clip art or using public domain images. I use clip art and public domain images on other platforms, but not on Etsy. There are enough platforms for those types of designs. Etsy clearly states that art and designs have to be original. So, why does Etsy allow it. They are a private business and can get rid of such sellers, if they want to.
For me the most logical thing is to divide the etsy platform into etsy handmade and etsy pod/supplies/ resellers. That would make it much easier for buyers to support and find what they want, and the etsy platform could grow more through the POD side without affecting the handmade subplatform. They could make specific rules for the pod/reseller platform, like higher rates to open and maintain a shop and also put in payment reserves, because these types of businesses harbor more scammers. So 2 etsy subplatforms with different rules and costs for setting up and running the business. The pod side could then be slowly including the same rules as selling on amazon with an application process to run your shop and different tiers of sellers etc.
Yes I do wish they would look into something like this. People are buying the POD and reseller things, but give the people who want to buy handmade a place to be able to find that handmade stuff
Sorry I thought I replied to this but it does not show up on RU-vid - so sorry if you get two replies I agree, some people clearly want to buy the resellers type things, splitting the platform would make sense - that way everyone who wants actual handmade could find them
But where would handmade supplies go? People wouldn't go to the handmade Etsy section to find them, and please don't put us in with the POD section. :) Supplies could be its own section, but they already tried that with Studio, and it failed.
One of the problems is there isn't one answer to what is 'hand made' vs 'digital' vs 'print on demand'. I create original art, by hand, using digital drawing and painting tools. I used to them print them and post them, but I've switched to a POD service, that prints globally, in-country, and dispatches on my behalf. It saves the customer money on shipping, its much quicker and has a fraction of the carbon footprint, plus I don't have to hold stock. The margins are lower, but I had to make that call. The creation of the product has remained unchanged, only the distribution has. So is that still hand made? Should any creation that used digital tools be excluded from 'hand made' and if it were, where to we draw the line? What about physical models printed with 3D printers? What about a wooden sculptor who didn't chop the tree down? I don't think the problem is the handmade vs POD, To me, the problem is threefold. Firstly, many listings are now simply passthrough items from Alibaba type bulk purchases. Secondly, Esty is awash with counterfeit goods. Lastly, the algorithm is not transparent, and its harder to know how to get your creation in front of the right eyes, with Etsy price gouging shop owners with more and more ad related requirements to drive sales.
@@PamDuthie there are so many pod people who don’t even do their own designs. I think you should say loud and clear if you are designing, from scratch, all the art that is on you shirts. To my disgust a pod-er who just buys images from creative fabrica - answered someone asking is she did her own art - that she didn’t have time to design but wishes she did. This should not even be allowed to be called art at all. Least of all, handmade
@sioioos Hi, would you mind sharing the POD that you use and if they are consistent with colors? There are many options and I just can't trust reviews from RU-vidrs, you never know if they are sponsored...
I'm POD and I am so frustrated that Etsy has no appropriate designation for my work. I feel like an imposter using the handmade label because it isn't. I create original designs that would never see the light of day without POD because I wouldn't be hired by some big manufadturer. Etsy is a valid outlet for my work. It's just not handmade.
I do printables on Etsy. I think that its the extra effort and creativity that's most important. Yes, I use Creative Fabrica and other clipart and different fonts that others have created. But I that's a starting point of a creative process. Although I know how you feel about this. I had originally wanted to open a crochet shop, but an injury to my shoulder made that impossible.
I totally agree! Also, to be honest, I’m getting a little tired of all the POD shaming. All POD users are not created equally!! As an artist/designer who, spends on average a week to ten days, painstakingly creating one unique design, only to get thrown into the same category as all those sellers, implementing the churn and burn template all the YT Etsy Gurus push- ‘how to add 1000 listing a day to your Etsy shop’, etc., is absolutely soul crushing! I’ve been a prolific Etsy buyer since they started up, and I too love the many, MANY, handmade, one of a kind, items that I’ve purchased over the years. And all those items still remain very special to me, but I always went to Etsy for unique items, whether or not they were 100% handmade/one of a kind. So I can totally agree that Etsy has been flooded with a sea of cookie cutter, unoriginal garbage. And as both a seller and a buyer, it’s annoying AF! But I don’t think the utilization of POD is the problem. I think it’s a combination of a few things: 1). YT Etsy influencers pushing their ‘get-rich-quick-with-these-3-easy-steps’ videos, encouraging people to list as much crap as possible, in the shortest amount of time. All that “I made a million, and you can too” BS is choking the algorithm with the same 5-10 designs, using the same fonts, colors, etc.. 2). Number 1, dovetails into my number 2… the non-creative and unskilled people just looking to make a buck, by using pre-canned designs from CF, and even Etsy itself. I’m not talking about using an element here or there… I’m talking about the… “hey, I just grabbed a bird in Canva Elements, threw in a text box, and wrote ‘it’s for the birds’, and it’s perfectly legal and ready to be listed. Similar to #1, but not quite the same. 3). Consumers that are frankly unoriginal themselves, and don’t care whether an item is original in any way, as long as it’s cheap enough. 4). Amazon training consumers to expect everything they order to be as cheap as possible and delivered to their doorstep in 24hrs or less. 5). Etsy going public, to her point in this video, and they’re now beholden to never-to-be-satiated stock holders. 6). Etsy getting rid of too many humans, and increasingly relying on bots to make nuanced decisions. 7). Technology- everyone with a phone is now a professional photographer. And, everyone with a computer, a free Canva account, and 5 extra minutes on their hands, is now a professional graphic designer. Don’t get me wrong, on one hand I love that more people have access to express themselves, with these technologies. But I find that most of these people aren’t so much expressing themselves, as they are following someone else’s self expression, and considering it their own. If anyone has made it this far, I truly apologize for the epic rant, lol. I guess I just wish that the conversation around POD on Etsy had some room, and respect, for those of us that aren’t just churning and burning crap out, at warp speed. Because as much as I love one of a kind, handmade items, there’s just as big of a swing between quality craftsmanship and shoddy crap, in that space, too.
@@janedarc7731do not apologize for the epic rant. You are 💯 correct! How can I compete with pod shops that are just copying others stuff? We get lost in a sea of junk. That said, there are artists who depend on pod for selling their art. I’m afraid of selling my handmade stuff because now etsy is known as the tshirt place.
Yay, go Pam! I have been looking at Erank's numbers for top selling shops on Etsy this week. Most of them are selling mass produced, POD or digital and have thousands of items for sale. One shop had 65,000 listings! These shops get hundreds of sales every day. One shop had nearly 2,000 daily sales. Us handmade sellers can't compete with that. I think Etsy's customer base had changed and the mass produced items are the things that are selling, especially if they are personalised. Etsy isn't going to give up the mass produced shops because they are bringing in so much money. I have also been on Etsy since 2008 but I am seeing the end of my time there coming at me. I have had four sales this month which is dreadful. Sales halved overnight in October and I'm seeing them dropping with every month. I'm a carer for my Dad and need my Etsy sales - but they are disappearing and all my efforts to claw them back are failing.
I have been saying for a couple of years that they need to make a decision and adhere to it. If they are going to allow non-handmade, they need to change their TOS and make new categories so people can actually categorize their products honestly and correctly.
Sad part is that we as sellers can't afford each others items. I wouldn't buy ANYTHING except handmade, but the price of handmade is often out of our own budgets. Why? Because a lot of handmade peeps don't know how to price their stuff and also because they are not sharing WHY handmade is more valuable. It's not more expensive but more valuable. We see the big interest from viewers to see how we make things, who we are as creators, how we come up with our things, the nitty gritty all that but a lot of people are not sharing their process but pretend to be " the big corp". Not I am a small maker in my living room or small studio, but a lot and a lot of majers try to look like they are bigger and more professional than they truly are. It doesn't make sense because then it is no longer th handmade aspect we chase, but the prestige of a brand. Hope I make sense. More and more especially successful brands and creators, who came from a tiny living room corner now are trying to be the big prestige luxury brands. And that sends a message to customers! Hope my rant made sense.
Oh yeah interesting. I have not seen that yet but I understand what you are saying there. My gut feel is we are best not pretending to be bigger than we are. I think many buyers (the ones who care to look) are looking for authenticity and hopefully would prefer to see someone in their living room crafting something just for them
@vilmavalanciunaite I agree with you. Handmade sellers have been pushed to be 'brands' for years and try to look like bigger business than they are. That has not helped us at all.
@@PamDuthie a few Lithuanian (where I'm from) big big brands that are well known internationally started with etsy and quite a few of them became these luxury brands in both price and the feel and maybe that is just byproduct of natural growth, but very little people want to stay in the bracket, not expanding or overarching, becoming the new big brands. I guess that's my circle as I make jewelry and some other places might not be able to pursure that "prestige" 🤷♀️ but it feels super sad that that's what growth is painted to look like and that slow small single person operated business are not the main goal but seen as just the entry point
@@gillianmcmurray yeah absolutely. As someone who started Instagram the exact moment I started developing my business (I don't even like to say that word) I've seen so many of my fellow makers going from warm hearted real people to sterile white backgrounds with neon logos in the background 🤷♀️ I am doing my best to counter that, to not over edit, photoshop, filter my pictures but still keep the quality, to show my lrocess and my failures, talk about my feelings and not become my "brand"
I was making $30,00 a year and last year I was down 50% and this year.....I haven't even made $300 yet this month. I still have 570+ items and still making some things. Most of my sales sadly come from repeat customers these days.
Yes, things are much different this year than they were last year. I have had similar discussions with many people who offer a wide variety of products. It is pretty much affecting everyone, no matter what they sell.
This was a fabulous, productive, and CONSTRUCTIVE video on what has been happening to Etsy and why. Pam, you just keep hitting one home run after another because you are so honest and research everything so well! I'm a former scientist, so I know the value of the research you present to us. Many thanks!
When they cancelled and closed my shop 10 years ago for reporting Chinese resellers...funny to hear people talking about Etsy like it's just now losing credibility. All they care about is $$
The resellers have been there untouched for so long. I think that's what destroys creative spirit and the whole foundation of what Etsy is supposed to be. There is no reason in my mind for why they did not police it then, or now. I'm sorry to hear you went through that.
So glad to see someone talking about some of these issues. I had a necklace removed on the 12th that they said “violated the handmade policy”. I’ve tried emailing and chatting twice… all of them just told me sorry your item doesn’t qualify for renewal despite me explaining my photos were stolen and sending photos from a video of me making the necklace. I finally got an email back from someone else who told me if I believe it was an error I can create a new listing and relist the item. This is one of my best sellers with 122 sales and they want me to start over? I’m so upset. I tried emailing back, but haven’t heard anything. It’s been over a week with one of my best sellers being deactivated and no resolution. I’ve been selling on Etsy for over 10 years and I feel so burned right now.
I am so sorry to hear that. It is horrible that the Etsy system can just take down your best sellers like that. We all know that that loss in sales will hurt your listing a bit even if they reinstate it later. Their mistake, but your loss :'(
RU-vid is always talking about what’s bad about Etsy. Let’s start talking about the good on Etsy. I been selling on Etsy since 2013. I love the buyers.
Yes I totally agree, I am trying to figure out how to do it One big problem is that on RU-vid many many more people watch the negative videos rather than the positive ones. But we do need to find a way to promote the good in a way that people watch
Yes I agree with you because I sell one of a kind paintings and I know there are others that do as well, and judging by all the negative talk one would think there are no legitimate artist on Etsy! I have an idea for positive video, i need to start making videos! Watch out in about 3 months after I get my teeth fixed!
You're right, Etsy does need a badge or similar, that is applied to shops/items to show that the seller has a license to sell merc, and then a filter in search, but to confirm any docs that have to be uploaded to prove this, would generally need a human eye to look over it, and we know Etsy just don't have the manpower to do that. Spoonflower who print fabric, do have system in place where if people have been given permission from a 3rd party to use their images etc, they have to upload the proof before submitting the design they want to be printed, but I don't know how well it's "policed"
Yeah, Etsy is a victim of its own success in that it is so big that any improvements would require so so much people power. I dont know what but I am wondering if there is something we as a community can do
@@PamDuthie it's almost like there needs to be a directory where authorised sellers can log their shop names, providing evidence when they sign up, and buyers can look them up to make sure they are getting genuine authorised merc. Bit like CheckaTrade
I have been selling on Etsy since 2006. I have 2 shops. One for digital patterns which I write and test myself and one for hand knit or crochet accessories. Ever since the AI algorithm changes I have only been able to sell my hand knit items to repeat and former customers. It is impossible to be found if you are selling unique OOAK items. The pattern shop on the other hand is doing quite well.
Question for you: Do you get pattern buyers that complain they are not getting the actual finished thing, even though you have clearly marked and stated "Pattern Only"? I think I have been lucky with my patterns and deem every sold pattern as an item I do not have to make and/or deal with a cranky anxious buyer, lol!
@@ecouturehandmades5166 I used to but now I have banners over the photos in red saying pattern only. I'm also stating it in the title and the description.
Handmade really is getting hard. I am having a think about what we can do about that, its not fair on sellers and its not fair on the buyers who want handmade items
:) I think digital things are a good way to scale your business, they are a great - less stress thing. But buyers need to be able to find non digital too
@@PamDuthie Even with digital downloads, its hard to get noticed. You have to have massive volume. And I'm not a volume producer. I like to produce a quality printable and I'm not a trained designer, so I have about 130 listings. But that's a drop in the bucket when someone has thousands of listings.
Actually Chinese people could sell on Etsy until very recently, and there were some amazing artists. The drop shippers are already here with people from outside China dropshipping from China
Another thing that's frustrating about all the IP infringement is that there are people like me who are making things legally based on books and fairytales that are in the public domain but then my designs that I've been SUPER careful to make sure they don't look like Disney's (and other IP holders) designs are competing with all these people who are straight up lifting imagery from Disney and other properties, and I've no doubt that there are many shoppers who are going for the products that look like the version of the characters that they're the most familiar with instead of somebody else's creative take on them who's just trying to do things legally. :(
I was thinking of this the other day when I was putting together printables for "Teacher Appreciation". There were quite a few "Taylor Swift Inspired" printables that are 100% illegal with TONS of sales. When I see how they make bank and I can barely get 5 sales from something similar but legal, I'm furious.
Copyright infringement should be punished way harder. The chances of getting caught are way too low. I feel like as a seller she should not search for IP-infringing things on Etsy. She should know she's buying illegal things.
Etsy can’t be responsible for clearing all IP stuff as that’s not their job - they are not police. It’s the brand owner who needs to be after it not the platform itself. If they do so they will be exposed to lawsuits (taking down brands of Taylor Swift more than Morgan Wallet for example etc I doubt they would take that responsibility to police all) Etsy needs handmade section verified by videos and how product is being made plus Etsy need point system instead of random bans with no reason. You start with 100 points: IP strike - minus 50 points Stolen pics - minus 50 points You go to 0 your acc got banned
@@TheKempolek It would be very easy for Etsy to block obvious search terms just as they do profanity and nudity. They choose not to because it is profitable for them to allow it. They will only take something down if the license holder complains specifically.
@@giseletheriault8633 this is not how it works. They can’t police this as that would open them to other companies suing. They would need to open another departament who would monitor this. That is now how IP law works. Etsy isn’t responsible or for this period
She really did. I think we both saw it because it is doing so well, as she deserves, its a great video, so youtube rightly thought we would both like it
I was put on payment reserve on Etsy a couple of years ago. At Christmas time. They kept my money in Nov and Dec. I had no money for Christmas that year. I've been on Etsy for 10 years so it wasn't just for new sellers.
Oh yes, the payment reserve way very much a massive issue last year, it hit the media and everything. My mum was on reserve and she has had her shop since 2008!
The reality is Etsy is just another marketplace now and its ethos has shifted. It's always had a low barrier to entry which means that as a route into ecommerce for solopreneurs it's a very attractive proposition. Perhaps what the "true" handmade market needs is an entrepreneur willing to invest in something that more closely resembles Etsy 1.0. Will it ever happen....who knows...but if it ever happens they will need deep pockets to attract both buyers and sellers.
Copycats are a problem. I used to send take down requests, but it was taking too much of my time. There are people or businesses that put copies on the same platform as my originals.
Really glad I did not opt to join the Etsy band wagon to sell my products. It may be slower going, but I'm just not thrilled to see where Etsy has gone.
Oh, and I did see this video but quit watching as soon as she started talking about copyrighted merch. I know some people get permission but most of the Etsy sellers don't and it just makes me so mad that they are profiting off someone elses IP while real artists struggle so much.
I don’t know your channel or why YT recommended this to me, but I was searching for some hand made headbands on Etsy about 3 years ago, and then looked on Amazon and found a $12 pack of 4 headbands… that were being sold individually for $15 on Etsy being marketed as hand made. I took screenshots, reported it, nothing came from it, I could probably go find the damn seller right now…. So I’ve never been back.
If I want a specific band shirt I need to go to that bands website. If I don't find what I'm looking for and still want to support the band I change what I want and choose from what's available. I don't search a handmade seller making exactly what I want because I know that that is not supporting my favorite band, it's supporting a random seller.
I had to send my product to Not on the High street. I don’t think they advertise enough that their sellers have to jump through a lot of hoops to get on their platform
What options are there for sellers of handmade items other than Etsy? Many people don’t have the marketing background to set up their own website and drive traffic to it. I’ve watched several videos where they suggest that you start with 20, 30, 40, or 50 items in your shop when you open in order for Etsy to recognize you as being serious about your shop and enhance the likelihood of being picked up by the algorithms. Not everyone has the opportunity to do that. Providing quality images and a good, creative description can almost be a full-time job in and of itself. I’ve heard about lots of sellers who have problems or questions and simply can’t get a hold of anybody at Etsy and wait months and months just to get a response to an email. Some of them never get a response. There needs to be away to contact them and get some resolution if there is a problem.
I design POD and I am not a scammer. I work entirely by hand either with paper and art supplies or digital creations on my desktop or iPad. The only thing not original and handmade is the fonts. And I am slowly changing that by creating my own fonts. I couldn't possibly create all the products that my designs are printed on using POD. The point is all my art and designs Etsy are original and handmade. I have been selling POD since 2011. I have been on Etsy less than one year. I do get tired of those who say I am less than those handmaking an entire product. Did you all take the wood from a tree that you grew, did you manufacture the paint you use - it is al relative. The problem is the IP infringers and totally mass manufactured items. As individuals or small groups we need the support of a platform dedicated to our issues.
Oh yes, there is nothing wrong with POD, there are some great POD shops, the problem is all the low effort POD shops, which you dont sound like you are at all
Etsy needs to allow live shows. If they really want to make money. People are leaving Etsy. You are correct they only care about their shareholders but without the buyer and seller, there would not be a share or a holder. They have misplaced their loyalty. As of now, my shop is closed. I made money only when I drove traffic to my shop. By the way, Poshmark is kicking Etsy's butt. I was surprised Etsy did not loss everyone.
Etsy needs to subdivide for POD and digital just like we do for vintage. Then it would be easier for sellers and buyers alike to find what they’re looking for. I have handmade and vintage shops, but I keep them separate for clarity and ease. It was terrible when the vintage category was removed for a while and I was thrilled when they brought it back; I imagine POD sellers and digital sellers would be much happier with a category just for them.
I'm noticing this in my search keywords they are putting my items up for under paid ads. Just like they are finding any words they can show my item for to add up my ad spend. Totally not close to being related to my item. Then I get shown less because people don't "like" my items because I wasn't even relevant to their search.
Etsy would honestly benefit heavily from re-modelling or at least splitting out the algorithm towards the weighting applied to listing quality on digital products and physical products and prevent the two from being able to merge at any point in the listing process. The economy itself is so heavily stacked towards digital listings inflating stores through their quick turnaround sale/review period that if/when they list physical products (and they do) they are suddenly viewed as this great and almighty While doing my morning research today, I found one seller with a store that was only 2 months old and had a couple of hundred sales on what I thought at first was just another POD store. Not only was I wrong, but I could clearly see they were shilling when I dug into their store sales history digital items at $2 (AUD) a pop. I know shilling is against policy, but Etsy apparently don't have an option to report it. The other component with digital items, are people underselling their physical listings by throwing up an option for a digital product which sells for 5-6x less than their product, hence causing this undersell mentality that we hear all the 'YT Experts' promote on a daily basis.
I've been on etsy since 2008 as well, I had fun in the chatrooms and kind of miss them but man what a mess they would be now! LOL. Etsy has said that they are trying to fix things for years and all I see are more issues and more drop shippers :(
Surely there is room for digital products and handmade and everyone can support each other? I buy digital products because it saves me time, what could take me an hour to make, will cost me a quid on Etsy. People could also create their own handmade products instead of buying yours, but they choose not to 😊
Yes I am not saying there isnt room for digital, clearly there is. But I was seeing that for buyers who dont want the digital it is an issue. Sure the filters are there but it seems it isnt clear enough So IMO their is a problem for physical sellers if buyers are wanting their items but not able to find them
@@PamDuthie I see a mish-mash of items when I think I have entered purely printable downloads territory with my searches. So If I'm seeing physical items on those searches, what on earth is happening to searches that should be unique to a physical product? It's got to be miles worse.
I buy embroidery files from digitizer creators on Etsy, I then embroider the tea towel. I also buy the licence from the creator. I do not use anything that is from shows, etc.
Fan art is very much a legal gray area, some of it can be covered under the “parody clause” in copyright law while technically most fan art is illegal, but if companies were really that concerned about fan art, they would have shut down numerous conventions for artist selling fan art in their artists alley, 100 time over, but they haven’t. Most artists in the AA sell some amount of fan art and most, if not all of those artist don’t have permission to sell it. These companies do have the power to crack down on fan art. Just look at Disney and Sanrio. They are very hard on those who sell fan art of their IP’s. If they were really that concerned, they would have shut it all down already. I wish so much that people cared more about my own original ideas and creations, but they don’t, they’re there for the popular pop culture stuff…
Yes parody and fair use can apply, but the problem is that those are legal terms and have to be decided in a court of law The thing with fan art is it is like 'whack a mole' some companies dont mind about it, but others just dont have the resources to chase up everyone at every convention. BUT places like Etsy are a bit more like shooting fish in a barrel, they can sweep it every so often and get things taken down And then sellers are surprised their shops are taken down because they assumed it was OK to sell
I completely agree with you. I make everything from scratch and many of my items are one of a kind, same with all my friends who have some absolutely beautiful shops. None of us are doing well on Etsy anymore and I am so sick of all the stuff that shouldn't be there. To be Completely honest I don't like that vintage is on Etsy either. I often see what look like tatty old ornaments badly photod on carpet that look like they should be on ebay. I know that's not all the vintage sellers but to me it doesn't go with handmade. There's a flood of sellers now selling AI designs that other sellers are then buying and slapping on pod. The only pod that I don’t mind is when it's the sellers own original artwork. I feel like Etsy need to be able to split off the true handmade from everything else. Easier said than done I know. But all I see is us true handmade sellers are going to disappear and it will just be a sea of duplicate images slapped on mugs and t shirts and the drop shippers. Oooh that turned into a rant! Sorry 😆
Uhh most people aren’t able to design a good shirt design “on canva” and “go print it themselves”. Way to crap on designers who sell their designs via POD.
Not at all, as I talk about all the time, I have no issue with food POD. The issue is currently we have loads of very low effort high volume pod shop. People creating 100s of listings every day. They are not creating good designs either. So rather than buy a poorly designed shirt people totally can make one themselves. If you feel you make things that customers can't then you are not part of the problem, and you should dislike these other sellers too as they are directly hurting you
I think in the future, individual artists must protect the right to sell fan art so that they are not stealing anyone's profit, and maybe brand holders will find a way to sell cheap permits or to collaborate with artists (for SMM purposes or such). That is too much of a guilt on one person for corporate wars issues. Because handmade quality is also a value for a customer, not a brand logo or idea. The way it is implemented makes value for the final buyer, not paper sketches of "real artist designers." Bite me 😇😂 I cannot draw. And as a customer, I care how it is made and by whom exactly (when I don't hunt for a specific brand). Maybe we should also stop supporting brands who are mean to artists and manipulating customers, objectivating them as walking wallets ?
Used to be a full time Etsy seller & made a lot of money during the pandemic. Brexit meaning EU buyers need to pay tax killed it all for me. Not really a fan of Etsy, I think I’ve spent about £20 buying things in the past 5 years & never search for anything on Etsy & never will.
Yeah for us in the UK Brexit has made things a pain . It is sad that so many Etsy sellers dont buy on Etsy - I dont buy enough either, that is something Etsy needs to look into
“Enshitification” … ahhh word of the day. That would look great on a T-shirt… a dictionary entry with those pronunciation instruction thingies (which I can’t make head nor tail of anyway)
Very true, sadly some sellers just dont know, and I know that is their fault - but people are giving advice that certain things are OK to sell - when they are not. And if it is someone with a big following then people think they know what they are talking about
The stolen thumbnails and descriptions that Etsy did nothing to stop are part of why I left a long time ago. It's very disturbing to hear they are still acting like this is some new surprising thing. It was not happening at the beginning, then it happened, then sellers had no recourse, then nothing changed. Yikes. GREAT point about people wanting to buy handmade things, not realizing that they could be illegal copyright infringements.
@@PamDuthie thank you :) You're an inspiration to me how you've been able to stay in the game, learn so much, and teach so much. I love checking in and seeing what you're up to when I can.
Let’s be honest Etsy is full of old woman who have no idea about latest tech and how to get around bans or even know how to dropship. Makes it a perfect opportunity for younger guys like me who are printing thousands. You need to expand your knowledge and adapt or you will be left behind.
@@dropshipincanada So you are scared to prove you know what you are talking about then :D :D Because your RU-vid channel makes it look like you have no clue and are just sitting in your mummys basement thinking you are smart Come back when you have proof of anything you say
