The Downfall of Greninja 

Making money with the most popular Pokémon in the world?……nah, let’s remove everything cool about him. Charizard must be the only one.

Gamefreak: "Hey. Lets nerfe Greninja, Talonflame and Gengar, but not Urshifu." 😂🙄

Greninja deserves WAY more than Charizard. I know what I said

Greninja deserved to win in the XYZ anime. It's telling when some of the writers came out and said they wanted Ash to win. As for the Battle Bond nerf, it was just bizarre to me. It got nerfed the same gen they introduced Palafin, which honestly felt insulting. My man has to do some actual positioning to get a 110 boost, but this guy switches out and boom, just like that, near 200 bst boost. It already has buffed water shuriken (jet punch). To add insult to injury, they retconned Ash Greninja despite teasing it's existence in Nemona's house..? Keldeo can have a form change without a BST change, so if the BST was such a problem, why couldn't they implement the nerfs as they are, without retconning Ash-Greninja. Have it transform when the ability is procked. This would also remind the player that "Hey, switch out now and your boosts are gone". And removing the buff to Water Shuriken for no reason. Did Chesnaught and Delphox deserve better? Yes, better abilities and Battle Bond for all 3, but that in no way justifies Greninja's downfall.

Justice for the dark frog 🐸🖤

The nerf to Battle Bond is the most brutal insult known to Pokemon, when I saw that message and the stat boosts, it was equivalent to being spit in the face

Why ditch the concepts that has undoubtably made them SOOOOO much money over the past decade, has made greninja a fan favorite, and was and still is a fan favorite and the most iconic pokemon form of modern pokemon

it would be totally awesome if in a 4 episode ark a bit before the master's 8, ash could suddenly feel strange and then see through greninja's eyes that he was in trouble and team flare was trying to capture him , and then transform into Ash-greninja and beat them with an epic water shuriken. then ash would go to the Kalos region and beat team flare for a final time and also remove all the roots, so greninja could come back and stay with ash. then ash finds out he's battling alan in the master's 8 and use greninja for his last pokemon against alan's mega charizard x and finally beat him with the golden water shuriken that should have won in the kalos league. if you read all this, then I'm impressed

WHY DID THEY RETCON ASH GRENINJA, RETCONNING THE AWSOME FORM IN THE GAMES WAS ENOUGH, THEY DIDN’T NEED TO DO IT WITH THE ANIME TOO. I LOVE THE ASH GRENINJA FORM AND GRENINJA IN GENERAL, WHEN. I GET A COPY OF X & Y, MY KALOS STARTER CHOICE WILL IMMEDIATELY BE FROAKIE. WHICH GRENINJA BATTLE WAS BETTER ASH’S GRENINJA VS SAWYER’S SCEPTILE: KALOS LEAUGE OR ASH’S GRENINJA VS ALAIN’S CHARIZARD: KALOS LEAUGE TRUST ME, ASH’S GRENINJA IS ULTIMATE GOD TIER OF ASH’S POKÉMON AND HE DIDN’T NEED TO BE RELEASED, ZYGARDE ALREADY CLEARED UP THE VINES AT THE END OF THE TEAM FLARE ARC, SO WHY DID THE WRITERS THINK IT WAS A GREAT IDEA TO BRING THEM BACK FOR NO REASON AND WHO THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA FOR ASH TO RELEASE HIS KALOS ACE AND ONE OF HIS STRONGEST POKÉMON EVER.

Game freak keeps doing my frog dirty we need justice

My problem with the Pokémon games is when they nerf Pokémon when a new gen comes out. Despite the fact the new Pokémon would still fold it. Gengar is one that comes to mind

Despite greninja getting done dirty Greninja will always be my all time favorite Pokemon period

I don’t care what anyone says about Greninja, but it will forever be my favorite Pokemon with that cool shade of blue and that ninja motif.

It’s weird because there is a ash Greninja painting in Nemona’s house. So I don’t get point of them teasing it if they are retconning it.

They did greninja dirty I tell you😢

My boy look at how they nassacered my boy

Thankfully we still have an ash grenninja Easter egg in nemona's house

Here in my opinion(even though ash greninja is my favorite) on why they did it. The other two starters didn’t have any special forms and they didn’t want him to outshine the others(though charizard can two megas in a single game and that is fine apparently) I am hoping when the gen 6 remakes come out, they bring back ash greninja and give the other starters final evo’s a new form. I was thinking for chesnaught, since he is known to shield and be defensive, maybe if he reaches a certain Hp threshold he can go into his form. Don’t know what we can do with delphox though as a condition

If Game Freak would have been equal by giving mega evolution to the Kalos starters as well, all of this would have been averted.

Stats got nerfed when entering battlebond? Im ok But atleast keep the form 😭

I think a reason why we didn't see Ash-Greninja in the flashback to the Kalos League is that it's in Ash's perspective, and he saw through Greninja's eyes during the battle

Don't care about any of the changes Greninja will forever be my favorite mon ;)

I can understand not having it back in journeys as it's no longer ash's pokemon. With the exception of the flashback, that specific part was bs. Not bringing it into gen 8. Ok Whatever i guess wanna focus on the new feature. Knocking out the megas entirely was not ok. Bringing back greninja with its battlebond form to not let it change it's appearance was downright EVIL.

No matter how much he sucks Greninja will forever be My favourite Pokemon of all time

Greninja is one of, if not THE most popular Pokemon there is As a huge Greninja fan, to see this legend get so much disrespect lately, such as being robbed of winning the Kalos league to getting released for a BS reason to Ash-Greninja being pretty nuch retconned, it is absolutely UNACCEPTABLE!!!!

Excuse me, Greninja was fighting a Charizard that took down a Digard fort, mega grout on and make a call yogurt and megara Quaser all at the same time so you cannot say that’s embarrassing. That was an amazing battle, and Greninja almost beat him.

Gen 8 is so underrated, so many quality improvements and it’s just so epic to battle in massive stadiums with gigantic proportions!

Why y'all hating on my greeninja like that

They best add the true battle bond back for pokemon legends za. If they dont im gonna send ninjas cosplaying as ash greninja to game freak.

Best Pokémon anime is xy

You're so wrong. Greninja has gotten stronger since ash left

Make more videos like this underrated channel I like history videos on games and cartoons etc. still this is insanely underrated

Preferred Feraligator anyway.

Is there anybody making a petition to bring it back it does make an appearance in 2 other games Pokémon Shuffle and Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

The stupist thing is in the master eigt tournament if i made the series i will let greninja come back to ash for a battle against alain and make him ash greninja and defeat charizard this is so bad why they did even do this🤬🤦‍♂️

Sadly Greninja didn't even get into Gen 8

I don't see why people are mad battle bond is still a good ability. My only gripe is we can't breed Battle bond greninja

Greninja is still my favorite Pokémon no mater buffs or nerfs he has a special place in my heart

They didn't retconed it, they just knew that Ash was leaving and the missing Ash-Greninja form could have been the first teaser that Ash was leaving... I miss my senpai

New this was coming out today because of yesterday's stream!😂

Frogs are known to go #2 slowly. Greninja is no exception.

at this point the pokemon company just hate him and just rip ash greninja soul out greninja at this point

They did my boy dirty

Greninja is love

Delphox is actually the best for the kalos playthrough and has the best stats of Kalos Starters

It's smart it went inside the PokeBall itself 🙂

#BringGreninjaBackIntoForm

Thanks for helping me get back into Pokémon

7:01 its probably bc it comflicts with terastilisation and will be back to normal next gen

Finally we'll get a mega greninja with the release of Pokemon legends Z-A

the paldea anime is coming up maybe greninja will be there

I get why they had Ash battle Steven Stone (#3), Cynthia (#2) and Leon (#1). Bu, I would've preferred he battle Lance (his hometown champion), then battle Alain (avenging the Kalos League Final) Either with a Greninja vs Charizard rematch or Lucario battles Charizard, but then senses Greninja's aura and uses the energy to defeat MCX.

The anime was such a letdown! No rematch?!?!?

I wish he did a video on what Naruto's pokemon team would be. (Greninja should be his ace)

Also I was here on your live stream yesterday

Damn it’s the fun police in these comments. How dare anyone ever like Greninja right? 😂 You’ll so lame

Is there anyway I could give more support because I subscribed and did a lot of other things for untouched because I love your content

Judging by the comments below... i'm not surprised why greninja is treated so badly these days.

Love your content and keep up the great work

What about Iris and Cilan's pokemon?

Yall know Alain cheated because lysndre gave him it so I vote greninja won it.

I like ash greninja and they made the same reason like in the sinnoh anime infernape also should've gotten love getting his own form i mean i would've see a battle between infernape and greninja and it would be awesome ofc i want a form that's based of sun wukong but without armor and fire covered kinda like his armor that would've been cool but pokémon is just to lazy

Um, Gardevoir one shots greninja with moonblast and Greg’s dark pulse doesn’t even one shot.

“Protean”

Actually Serena should have caught Absol just as in the games, then her Pancham would also evolve because Pancham needs a dark type to evolve. Also if Absol could mega evolve it would be perfect

People overhype thing then speculation comes in then people are going to get mad cuz something hey like din't come true

Wow the comment section here is a hot mess. 😂

JUSTICE SHALL BE SERVED!!!!

even if he is my least fav starter in xy i sitll like him but my fav water type starter is oshawott

That was my fav pokèmon

They made me lose faith in Nintendo

I dont like that battle bond its like Greeninja is the only exception and also Pikachu.😅😅 I prefered the mega evolution line

How would Alola gang’s Pokémon be ranked?

I love a good Ret-con though 😂😂😂😂😂

Seems like people in your comments have never heard about *replies*

fenniken gets too much hate,im neutral to delphox,but greningia is my choice

Am I the only one that does not like OP pokemon and still thinks that Battle Bond ability on this sweeper is still OP? It's basically Moxie three ways down.

6:19 "That's what we were all thinking" No, that's what YOUUUUU weee thinking 😂😂😂😂😂 I thought Ash was going to take on Lance and Cynthia

HOW DARE YOU SAY MY FAVORITE POKEMON SUCK sorry i got mad that you said suck😅 sorry

Fun fact: The best starter Pokemon to choose in an X and Y game is fennekin

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do a cinderace vid

Nah bro fell off 💀💀💀💀

Gen 9 ruined my favorite water starter…. for sure I’m not buying Pokémon scarlet and violet after this. Have a good day everyone with whatever what your doing, as for me Imma try to go back to the classic era of Pokémon (Gameboy orginal, color & advance, ds and 3ds) and hope that I never have to play a garbage ass Pokémon switch game ever again.

How was Team Rocket number 1 💀

Greninja never diess

he's in smash

Greninja will come back I hop because ash and he is a super great team but you said he suck so you will puy the price of ash greninja boy 🗡🐸🥋.

How has he gotten bad?

Team galatic have to be 1st

I can't believe just how Greninja has been treated in the Pokémon games and anime since XYZ and Gen 6. No Ash-Greninja, in the games, protein changed now, and the whole way Greninja could be used is terrible! I mean, it was bad enough not having Greninja in Gen 8 games, and I mean, why couldn't they even let it have one more treatment, for example a G-max form?! Just think, Greninja could've had G-max Water Shuriken, and used other moves like Max Darkness, and other moves! I mean, even if it could only dynamax it would've been great, but no, nothing happened! I can't even think how sad it was that Greninja wasn't treated well in Journeys. Why couldn't in the final 11 episodes of Aim To Be A Pokémon Master, couldn't the anime writers at least let Lucario return to see Greninja and maybe Misty and Brock saw it?! I still love Greninja, but I'm sad with how it was treated after XY and Gen 6.

Salute for greninja

Way too overhyped, brainless fans are the reason why they nerfed him, fans started overrating him to the point it became annoying.

Greninja deserved alot

Greninja deserved way more. Greninja>>>>>>>Charizard, Infernape, Sceptile. GRENINJA 🔛🔝

Which pokemon game you playing

I freaking Love Greninja ❤❤❤

Greninja is my favourite pokemom

Bruh greninja is the best Pokemon ? When you said it suck I got a bit mad 😡

Greaninja is my favourite pokemon