The Ducati Multistrada 1260 | New BSA Gold Stars for £5,500 

Dear Freddy, I'm an owner of an old 2006 XJR, i'm touring with it, but i dont understand this ulez zones. In my country there is no ulez zone. But i do know one thing, i'm not gonna sell my bike, if in some citys are my bike is not allowed, then i and my bike are not allowed to drive in. This city dont need my money what i spend on a tour if i ride in. A big middlefinger for those who invented ulez zones.

This is why I take the time to watch you !!!YOU ARE SO SO HONEST TO YOURSELF AND MORE IMPORTANT TO THE FOLLOWER WELL DONE FREDDIE I just love your comments be they to my liking or not because I know you believe in what you say Well done young Sir !!

Freddy, I've just done 9,500 miles across the USA on my UK 2018 Multistrada 1260 Pikes Peak. Never missed a beat once and was the perfect bike. There's a reason it held the Pikes Peak hill climb record for years. Fast, comfy, sublime handling in the mountains, and gets lots of comments and nods of approval for having the 'stones' to take a Ducati on a long tour.

Best safety device is a break between the batt and ignition hidden where you want it to be cheap and simple have it on all my bikes an old farmers trick with tractors !

Low emission bs in Europe. My experience. Ignore it. They then get you're details from dvla and send a fine. Ignore it as it's not enforceable. Re visit Europe and carry 9n your merry way. The powers that be , expect you to comply and crap yourself and pay the fine as many do. Ignore it simples.

I own a beautiful 2008 Honda CB1300s. I have it 15 years and cherished it. Im 72 and considered a new smaller bile like the suzuki 800 R. I got such low trade in prices decided to keep it together with my Honda VFR 1200F. Bought a Honda Monkey instead ...now got 3 bikes and happy 😊

Hi all, I have just come back from a weeks touring around Scotland (nc500 etc) on my Multistrada 1200 Enduro and can honestly say it has been a credit to Ducati. 160 hp with a 30 litre fuel tank etc. I have had it for 4 years and the only bike I would replace it for is the new V4 Rally (its equivalent) but can not justify the extra £12k just on a newer version. Absolutely beautiful bike which I have just treat to a new set of Metzeler karoo 4 tyres. Wonderful 👍🏍🏍👍

The rant about steering locks made me think that man has a personal vendetta against them 😂. They aren't there to stop a real theif. It's there to slow down a thief, stop an oppertunist from pushing it down the road without having to commit to breaking the lock. I see what the gent is saying. Don't get me wrong, but if you dont want the steering lock broken, lock your bike up with a couple of 16mm or larger chains. And an alarm. I use a 16mm chain when out combines with a break disc lock that has a super loud alarm when it's touched. Could it be stolen? Yes. But it's not going to be as easy as someone not using a chain, etc. Hopefully, they will pick the easier option. There is not much more you can do.

Contrary to the opinion of old bikes being overpriced, I recently bought an immaculate and totally original Suzuki GSXR for in excess of £3000, but when you consider the current modern Sportsbikes are around the £20,000 mark and lacking the charm character plus stifled by euro emissions I consider it an absolute bargain. Thanks Freddie

Hi Freddy, I’ve had two Multistrada’s, a 2010 1200s and now a 2019 1260s. Modern Ducati’s are very reliable, in particular the 1260 engine. I’ve not had a single issue on mine and there are plenty of RU-vidrs who have done many, many miles without a hitch. As long as you look after them and service them they will look after you.

CF Moto is changing the face of motorcycling in terms of spec VS price. Freddie, you should review their lineup if you're serious about presenting good bikes that buck the current trend of getting ever more expensive and complicated just because they can.

I have had a 1200 and now 1260 multistrada enduro, fabulous bikes, decent service intervals, ridden all year, sublime suspension. I won't have anything else.

As a former 2021 Multistrada V4S owner that came from a 21 Diavel 1260s (same motor as the 1260 Multi) the bike was an amazing ride both on and off-road. Its a bit bulky for doing too much technical dirt riding but capable of going on forest roads no problems. Ducati went to the V4 grand turismo motor in 2021 which revs completely different from the 1260's monsterous torque that I did miss I'll admit. There were quite a few upgrades (mostly technology) to the V4S from the 1260, adaptive cruise control, blind spot monitoring and more. I never had any mechanical issues with my Multi and loved it while I had it and enjoyed the many twisty back roads here in western U.S. I inevitably changed things up for my current bike an Aprilia Tuareg 660 for more balanced off-road/on road capabilities. Cheers Freddie

When travelling to other countries with fellow motorcyclists, we always pick our overnight stays just on the outskirts of the cities. None of us like riding to the centre of town, in fact being city kids we‘re happier riding away from it. Followed by walking around in thick clobber is not our idea of fun and the local transport can be adventurous, even have a wine or a beer in safety. Admittedly, for those having to commute it’s a totally different story. My bikes a 1997 Honda Vfr750F. Thanks for your excellent and dedicated work Freddie 🙏🏽

The best environmental benefit will be found by buying and keeping a vehicle... not by leasing/pcping a 2ton EV!

lot of people baby their bikes, fastidious about cleaning and maintaining the bike. Then they join facebook groups for others that own and love that particular bike.....all this conspires to make owners really over estimate the value of their bike.....best thing to do is keep the bike you have and enjoy it and not constantly look over the fence

Just a thought; a four year warranty on a BSA will likely be useless if the company goes bust.

Wow…£5.5k for the Goldstar…that’s such a bargain…I think you should grab one…incredible comfort for the pillion also 👍😄

Thanks, Freddie. Thoroughly enjoyed this podcast just driving from London back home in the car M6 and it came with the right time. Thanks again Nick.

Thank you so much Freddie. ❤

Great bandana shirt. See you next Tuesday.

Bsa 650 new have seen on ebay £4995. Major dealer in Northamptonshire, will not sell them any more through quality issues. Same dealer, excels in high volume royal Enfield sales.

@16:58 That photo was taken at the Quai des alpes, Nyon, Vaud, Swizerland. Used to live there hense why I recongise it. The roads there are amazing. The restaurants are expensive though. See the Jetty in the background,you can get a boat to most places on Lac Leman. On the other side of the lake there is an amazing small medivial town call yvoir. I would recommend the visit. Also all the best bars are next to La Gare in the town center.

Freddy, as a 1200 Multistrada Enduro owner, i can say that during my ownership of approx 6,000 miles (so far) including tours of Scotland and France, it has been nothing but 100% reliable. Yes it is a little tall, but not unmanageable, the 30 litre tank gives over 300 mile range, you can ride at a sedate pace or more spiritedly, it's happy either way, some character vibes, but that is a V twin for you. My partner an i use it for the long distance weekend rides and also the tours, and the massive 40 litre panniers and topbox are brilliant. I really can't fault the bike, if i was picky, i'd say the electronics have too much adjustability that i just don't use, i have my preferred settings and just leave it in those, yes the Desmo service (valve adjustment) is not cheap by any stretch of the imagination, but it is only every 18000 miles, so for me that's every 3 years. It is a practical do anything (within reason) bike, with that little bit of Italian exotica. I also have a Honda CBF1000 which i love, but that is less practical and less reliable than the Ducati (with smaller luggage, more frequent fuel stops and a stator that like to stop charging the battery with the regularity of 1970's British Leyland cars!

My 2002 ZX6R looks and runs like new. Passed the ULEZ test so no charge to ride within the M25. It's a much better bike than the new 'SuperSport' bikes. No problem getting consumable parts and its Jappanese so it doesn't need anything else.😊

Hi Freddy me again. Re your bit on the new BSA. Thor motorcycles in Bodmin Cornwall, are selling the BSA brand new for £4995. I believe this is the price they should have launched at. They missed the mark a bit coming to the market a year late and way over the price compared to Royal Enfield. But now a bargain for anyone looking for one.

I can’t answer for the Ducati 1260s but I am immensely pleased with my 2022 Multistrada V4S. I was riding a CBR600rr and I decided that I needed something more age appropriate, or I had to quit riding. This bike is it: right-brain-to-contact-patch easy to ride. Wash it and lube the chain. It only requires one oil change per year. If the 1260s are anything like this - buy one!

Freddie, I had a 2018 Multistrada 1260s when they first came out and yes it was all you said and more - a superbike on stilts, beautiful handling and build quality, without doubt the best bike I've ever owned. A true exotic Italian stallion!. And yes, modern Ducati's are reliable. I did 31,000 miles on mine over three years, including long Europe trips and it didn't miss a beat. It did everything so well and with such style.The downside if you do higher miles is the service costs which at the rate I was going was a desmo belt service every other year at well over 1k a go! Also, no one wants to buy a higher mileage Ducati, and I took a big hit on depreciation when i part exed it. BUT.....three years on and I'm still missing that bike. Nothing I've bought since comes close and I find myself constantly looking at those secondhand Multistrada ads. At those 2nd hand values I might just have to re-scratch that itch!!

On the secondhand topic. People forget that you have to factor in an amount of monies for works that will be needed on any secondhand vehicle. Rarely is a vehicle as good as the sellers says it is. I would budget around £1000 for works needed and if you do not spend that, then that is a result. EV's & Congestion charges are the road to Pay Per Mile. It is going to happen unless we change who manages our country. Determined thieves will have a van and lift your bike if not anchored to a post. But two locks on a wheel should put off many opportune thieves. Never put your steering lock on. Take a picture of your two locks on your bikes wheel before going off to do what you are doing. Wishing you well

I own since new a 2016 Multistrada currently 65000km. I did the desmo service at 36000km 1 sprocket change front and back and chain. 6 oil changes, I ground out the flapper valve in the can do to it sticking closed and put a servo buddy on to keep the engine light off and 5 sets of tires I ride it like it is stolen. So I would say very reliable. Last trip was 6500km over 8 days from 2 degrees Celsius to 40 no problems at all. So in my experience very reliable. I feel the 1200 and 1260 are very close to being the same with the exception the 2015 and 2016 has more torque and is 3kg heavier.

Much more reality about secondhand bike prices in this week's episode. I've always thought old bike prices were way too high, especially compared to cars.Your contributor who was a former bike dealer was bang on the money as they say. A Multistrada would suit you Freddie, it ticks a lot of boxes and would probably encourage Monika to come with you more often. Like my bike it also has the advantage of decent depreciation so you should be able to pick up a bargain. My fully-loaded RT1250 was purchased four years' old, with 3,000 miles on the clock, for half the price of a new one. It's still the most I've ever paid for a bike, but I think it was worth it.

Freddie, I would give you a Gold Star for this video! ⭐️

Hi Freddie, as for pricing of bikes, i thought I'd share with you my thoughts All you have to do is look at dealers prices These are sometimes outrageous This is part of the problem, you see dealers use finance to move thier stock. We are more and more turning to credit to buy vehicles. Ive heard that currently in USA there is trillions of dollars owed.

Freddy, I've had every Multistrada version. 1000DS (21k miles with lots of European travel), 1200S, 1260S and I now have the V4S Sport. In between I have had (I'm a one bike at a time owner) a Triumph Tiger 800XC and did 38k miles on that through Europe in 2 years and a KTM 1290. I will never now leave Ducati as I can honestly say that they are superb bikes that for me, have been faultless. We often travel 2 up with full luggage, have been from London to Croatia and back and intend to ride to Turkey and Greece soon as I'm retiring.

People don’t want to eat the depreciation, especially not if it’s a bike they like and that works. But new bikes are being built every day and most of them are really good. Something has to give, prices have to drop and when they do things will be sold. Another thing about used bikes like that Multistrada is that the valve services (or Desmo service) can cost a bloody fortune.

It is a buyer's market they can make more motorcycles than they can customers therefore there will always be a gut of motorcycles for sale on the market

Multistrada is probably due a belt change. People sell Ducati once there is major work to do. Belts are expensive if you don’t do them yourself. Usually the valve checks get ignored until the belt change at 60 months then they get done at the time the bike is apart. More money.

love your energy 💌 from singapore

3 rd year running y 1260 it’s 6 yrs old, 24k miles love it huge torque not cheap clutch went Desmo … but the problem is insurance cost. It’s great fast good for touring steers quick . Don’t really use cruise need active for drivers in uk cutting u up, panniers are good, more comfy than sports bikes ( done 30 yrs of sports bikes )Big bikes are getting stupid money £18-25 k and insurance companies r fleeing us. This is why manufacturer r focussing on mid size engines now. But as getting older insurance my next one will be smaller capacity & weight never used multi full throttle in uk

Really depends on so many factors, my mate just purchased a Harley Blackline 2011 in black paid $22K AUD considered hard to find, was put out on the dealership and sold in 6 hours. I have a Harley Iron 883 2017 I get asked weekly if I plan on selling it soon.

Freddy, you have just told your insurance that the insurance is void due to not singing the steering lock, I’d get it fixed and then use it. I thief will try the D-lock first I would have thought.

I bought a 2012 Multistrada 1200s just over a year ago. FDSH, 21k on the clock, for £6,000 from a dealer. And WHAT A BIKE. I previously owned a Tiger 800. And getting on the Multistrada from the Tiger was like stepping off Ryanair and climbing aboard Concorde. It oozes quality, class and performance in every department. It handles like a dream and you and a pillion can cruise along for hundreds of miles in absolute comfort. Or, if riding like a hooligan in the lanes is your thing, it will absolutely do that too. I've now done over 7k miles in a year on it, and other than needing tyres and a £200 service, it's wanted for nothing. The only problem with owning a Ducati Multistrada is: When you already have the ultimate do it all bike - where do you go next?

On the BSA... what I have found on a Google search is that they appear to be coming to the US in later this year. Not sure what dealerships they plan to use. Mahindra is using their farm equipment dealerships to sell the Roxor. Be interesting if they use them for the BSA.

You know, I’ve said it before Freddie, listening to you talk about the crazy environmental laws that you guys over in Europe have to deal with, being charged to ride into a city, makes me love America even more. We don’t put up with that crazy stuff. Or at least not in my state. I ride my 26 year old Harley to work everyday with no worries. And if I want to sell it, I know I’m gonna be able to get at least what I paired for it

My guess would be that motorcycles are mostly a hobby, and people tend to spend more money on things they love (= their hobbies) in contrast to things they need (= their cars). Maybe that's (one reason) why the motorcycle market is generally more expensive than the car market.

Presumably the Gold Star isn't selling hence the big discounts. RE have got this market to themselves as far as I can see with Triumph occupying the next rung up.

I love those big naked bikes! I wish I could get them in the USA. I ish Honda would send the CB1300 to the US.

I just bought a round-about £2000 bike. 17 years old. In hindsight after seeing new bike finance deals at £99 per month I should have got a new one. I've had two things go wrong already and there's always a thought when I'm out riding..'i wonder if some little sensor or tiny part is going to fail'

£2100 was just too much money, just because you think your bike is a classic, doesn't mean everyone else will, it's a 25 year old UJM.

Bought a BSA a few years ago, rode it for 3 years and doubled my money. I sold it, it wasn’t a very good bike in reality, and the market for it was disappearing. Potential owners are of an age where they’re struggling to ride bikes anymore to to being weaker. I bought a s/h street triple, light, fast, reliable and easy to ride for virtually the same money. A brilliant FJR feels like riding a bus now.

Well, I went to the trouble of getting a Low Emission vignette for my 2023 Moto Guzzi V7. It turns out, that since their introduction, the low emissions zones are killing the retail trade in French towns. I had a chance to discuss this in detail with some French bikers on my last visit. Is anyone there checking that you have your low emission vignette up on your bike? Well you decide! 🤔.

About over valuing, you are dead right, recently I wanted to buy a 2004 to 2006 883 sporty, To start with there was a massive difference in advertised prices then most people just valued their bikes way too highly. Eventually I found the right bike from a decent seller and we did a deal. But wow what a tough ride finding one was! Even watched one start at £3650 rise to £4,200! crazy really crazy. PS that bandit 1200 worth £1200 max and then only if someone wants one !

Regarding used bikes. In Australia, the Covid years really inflated prices of used bikes. The main reason is supply and demand. Although the prices have come down, this theory is still relevant. We simply do not have the number of certain bikes to sell that will meet demand. 20-30 year old bikes are priced quite high. Xjr's, gsx1400's, all bid bore retro bikes, no matter what age command a high premium, especially low km versions. I myself have bought and sold over 80 bikes in 20 plus years and it is getting harder to find a bargain out there. I have received flak for over pricing bikes to follow trends and find people simply won't pay high prices. I find that being realistic and lowering prices is the only way to sell them on. We all remember what they were priced years ago and it doesn't make sense to pay more than what they are worth, especially I they are not special models releases. Carby fuel injected old, new, doesn't make a difference. Because of the less choice, if you really want it, you need to pay for it. There is always one buyer out there only if you are patient. It's a contradiction, I know. This is the motorcycle industry in parts. Passion doesn't rely on common sense😅 Regards Adelino

I’m a bit jealous about the bikes that are on the second hand market in Europe. It’s pretty vanilla here, which is great if you’re a buyer and you want a Japanese track bike but none of it is interesting.

I've never had much luck selling a bike privately and don't think it's all about pricing. I had a mint condition 2014 Street Triple 675r for sale 2 yrs ago for £4850 and not a sniff despite lowering the price to £4650 ono. I sold it to a dealer for £4200 who then advertised it £5495, it sold quickly, and I know they don't negotiate on price. Some people want the security a dealer offers and finance. Or they just want to get something new on pcp. It's tough selling privately.

Its like every day is Tuesday

BSA are knocking £1000 off all the range until 31.8.24. They are now £5499 and the Legacy edition is £5999, a bargain.

An chapter from India told me RE cost £3000 in India so huge markup or govt tax double the profit price in India

I had a bike attempted theft. It was recovered due to the tracker. The insurance wrote it off because of the steering lock. They said it needed a frame replacement to fix the steering lock! I am currently paying for such a mistake! Not sure if it is worth to have theft insurance any more. You will pay back the insurance company cost via the massive price increase post theft. Unless you quit motorcycling.

BSA Glod Star are selling new for £4999, many dealers are selling them.

I bought my BSA GoldStar on the 1st March 2023, in Midnight Black for £6800 + otr and now their selling them at £5500+otr. That's no way to encourage brand loyalty. I'm very pleased with my bike but what's it worth now, second hand. This is no way to run a business and i now realise why my local dealer in West Lancashire gave up selling new models on the 1sr of Jan 2024.

The Suzuki Bandit 1200 you featured that hasn't sold was in Newton Abbott, Devon, so unlikely ever to go near London. I shall never ever buy an EV. If I had to part with my ICE bikes or cars because they became uneconomic to run, then I would just cycle every where.

There’s a dealer in Cornwall selling brand new Mahindra Motorcycles for £4999+otr

Those sellers should be glad they arn't trying to move a Harley or BMW! Here in the states, the used market is flooded with them. Depreciation on a two- or three-year-old BMW is staggering! Used Harleys priced $3, $4 and $5000 below so-called "book value" and no takers. The real problem is fewer and fewer riders. The motorcycle market is simply shrinking. If everybody and their brother has a Harley in the garage, good luck selling yours at any price!

You can't really compare bikes vs cars. Bikes are better taken care of, cost less to insure and less monthly road tax. I do agree some older bikes are priced too high, but it isn't fair to compare a bike that has been taken care of and can run for many more years vs a car that will be scrapped in +-3 years.

I agree ☝️ mate with your assessment that overall now people are buying big ADV bikes , and in Australia to a less extent Retros . I think , well in Australia anyway it’s the economy, “ everything is more expensive “ and registration on lager capacity bikes are expensive. And riders down sizing the amount of bikes they have and ownership costs .

it's funny with CFMoto becouse it's more reliable that the bike he's based on (KTM 790). Yes, chinese copy is better than original. Probably they fixed problem with camshafts, something that KTM can't do it for 6 years.

how would u go about finding bikes from the 60's Norton , triumph s especially living in another country, talk Ian at varralls he's looking 4 me

In the last year or so, I offered a "price" that I'd be prepared to pay for a couple of bikes. Needless to say, the seller basically told me to go, and F*** Myself. I was NOT trying rip off etc.... In one case I was "nastilly" reminded this bike had his personal custom paint job of over $Cad 2500! As a recent seller of a couple of my bikes, both in (verifiable) VGC, I had no problem selling... only dropped ~$Cad 200 from asking.

I have the Multistrada V4S It's a comfy sports bike. Why not go to a Ducati dealer and test ride one it would make interesting content.

Is getting finance a big thing in the UK , most in Australia pay cash or use savings. Or worst case get a personal bank loan

Road tax, what a mix up and I don't get the logic My two motorcycles I have to pay road tax on each bike. Both are 650 petrol engines. My 2016 diesel 1.5 car, wait for it....£0 How does this work? More emissions, more congestion, how?

That Ducati cannot be good value at £7700 as you missed the fact it's been on sale for about a month. So probably only worth £6500 (which is tempting!)

What did Samuel Johnson say? "When a man is tired of London, he's tired of bike theft"? The UK is on a different level to anywhere else I'm aware of in the world. How does a country that's an island have such a lack of control?

Um, nobody in the market for a new BSA is also in the market for a classic BSA & visaversa....

Freddy, you are far too nice. The message that discofang sent you was condescending and outright rude. I would have flushed his opinion down the toilet. 😂

People are being frugal, big fuel chuggers are not appealing, high insurance prices.....also coming into play...

Freddie, I noticed that you and some of your commenters go touring by strapping a lot of gear to the back of the seat. Moto Giant (RU-vid channel) just had a horrible crash when his sleeping bag came loose and the wind from a truck blew it into the rear wheel and locked it up at 80 mph. He lived but lost a foot. Maybe you could put out a safety alert.

No way am i going to take on the Multistrada for long rides.

I think Facebook marketplace is a bad place to sell anything. It seems you can only sell stuff there by virtually giving it away. Most of the buyers there seem to want something for nothing - a bunch of cheapskates

Used prices are too high because there are cheap decent much newer bikes available. Once you get past 10 years parts start to be a problem, even for the biggest brands. Steering locks are indeed useless, a historical hangover embedded into insurance rules that really should be dropped. I bet the CF Moto buyer is kicking himself now they’ve dropped the new price to £6,799!

Is every one in the biking world over valuing the product just think of anything to do with bikes and compare with cars oil oil filters service costs B.M.W. bike now over £190 per hour tyres chains etc etc its like baby clothes where there is more to be made through passion it seems we just double the price ?? Clothing also comes to mind bike clothing is so so expensive yes yes there is the protective issue but how far do we take that when some of the clothing to be honest is a con is it not ??? Perhaps another topic for another day ??

I don't want anything that I can't screw myself. 20 years or older. Preferably a carburettor as old injection is just trouble. Semi-old, forget it. Or brand new and keep it for 2 years. Take the loss and come up with something else. If you can't afford a bike, don't buy one! I have never had insurance that covers anything other than liability on motorbikes or cars older than 10 years. See no reason for it!

Some of the bikes you have shown are joke prices. The biking community is shrinking yet people want £2-3k for 20+ old bikes. Not a chance

The steering lock "debacle" reminds me of the Ford car keys from the 1960s and early 1970s. I had a 1969 Ford Capri and my key would open most Fords. The locks were a complete joke. My Capri was stolen in Southport, recovered the next day with 4 flat tyres and a foot of sea water in the boot. All cassette tapes, tools etc. gone. Eventually, the insurance companies pressurised Ford, and the other manufacturers in the mid to late 1970s into using much better vehicle locks. My insurance company, in France (they also operate in the UK and around the world), requires that the steering lock is engaged when the bikes are not being ridden. You're even supposed to engage the steering lock when filling up with fuel. They also require that the bikes are secured with an SRA (similar to Sold Secure Gold) lock when parked. I am even required to inform them of the lock I use, the SRA approval number and send them a photo of the lock, including the SRA approval number on the lock, used on each bike. When at home, I am required to park the bikes in a locked and alarmed garage with the steering lock engaged and the lock on the bike, not out in front of the property. Failure to conform results in a 50% deduction if the bike is stolen. So, it's not just the UK which has overburdening insurance requirements. On a separate note, I've just recently got back from a trip to Britain (North Yorkshire and Wales) on my FJR1300. 1280 miles in a week. The bike performed flawlessly and was a dream to ride even in 7°C temperatures in June. The first "leg" was from Paris to Essex via back roads (where possible) and the Chunnel. It was so effortless, I could have immediately turned round and ridden back.

ok here is a controversial thing to say ..i see the stelvio (insert any pass/col etc here) and think well theres 40 mins (or however long it takes) that i’m not gonna enjoy ..there might be a flicker of relief/achievement for doing it , but the stress,frustration and concentration of doing it far outweighs actually doing it . are we subconsciously just trying to appease others by saying i’ve done them as a badge of honour ? making that rider somehow special or better than others ..because boy do people like to talk about it .

E.V'S HAVE A LIMITED LIFE SPAN TRUST ME SO SO MUCH ADVERTISING IN MY 71 YEARS NEVER SEEN SO MANY ADVERTS FOR CARS AND VANS "WONDER WHY" JUST HAVE A LOOK AT THE DOCKS AND TAKE A LOOK AT HOW MANY HAVE NOT BEEN SOLD AND ALREADY THEY ARE LOOKING AT MOVING THE GOAL POSTS SO TAKE NOTE FOR YOUR OWN SAKE ! THE EV BENEFITS WILL AND ARE BEING SHORT LIVED !!

I never sell any of my motorcycles if I buy a motorcycle I buy it for life or until the day it dies. People should appreciate what they have and not just try to get rid of things just to buy something new. The New market has no interest for me at all and I am not interested in buying a 25 year old Japanese motorcycle as I have a 25 year old Harley-Davidson Sportster as well as many 40 or 60 plus year old British and German vintage motorcycles in my collection. My Sportster has 400,000 mi on it it is worth virtually nothing on the used market but it is valuable to me. Have no interest in selling it whatsoever.

Freddie, I do love your videos but really need to use 'number' and 'amount' where appropriate. They are not interchangeable and it really gates on my ears when you say 'amount' of motorbikes, bikers, or whatever. It's 'number of'. Yes, your contributors are correct; if a bike's not selling after a fair time, it IS over-priced. And - I thought you were in Amsterdam? BTW, I have done the Stelvio - and the Fuella, and a few more on my European tours. The Stelvio in particular is epic if you go up the 'steep' side with countless tight hairpins, one after the other! Just don't drop the bike - the road camber in the hairpin is epic. That Duke - 156mph! Have you ridden at that speed, Freddie? I haven't. I once did 140mph on my Blackbird and it was SCARY! The bike was good for 180 apparently, but 140 was more than enough for me! Get into that territory and it's a whole different experience on a bike. Vince

If anyone thinks EVs offer environmental benefits is delusional

I cannot buy Chinese “ even through CF Moto is quite a good bike now with , in Australia anyway, good dealer network and their association with KTM and their tech . The MT 450 is flying off the shelf’s in Australia, if I’m honest is close to the perfect smallish ADV bike that ticks all the boxes in tech and features. Including a 450 270 degree engine. BUT I seen a review on this bike in comparison to the Himalayan 450 , and a good point was made , he was able to talk to the CEO , engineer of Royal Enfield ( at the ABR festival ) and they were honest and upfront about what they could produce for the money, BUT also the passion that went into the production of the bike and the “ few things “ they also stated they will improve, like side stand length and screen . So a company that designs the Royal Enfield in the UK and the CEO and engineers etc are all passionate riders . We’re CF- Moto in my opinion does not have that same passion.

In cahoots? No, it's just the old "thas da way we always done it" attitude of OEMs & all monkeys, er, I mean, people, for that matter....

Freddy sorry, bit you are the most "kak handed" kick starter of a bike.....so embarrasing....you make a simple action so ridiculously messy and hard work. Think you need to consider your biking future.....??