Totally didnt give any context. It was a danish artist who wanted to protest how badly artists were payed by museums (because the pay is SHIT). He was commisioned by a danish museum to make a piece for them. He asked them for 84k in cash as a part of the piece. The museum thought they were getting a physical piece, instead they Got a brilliant conceptual piece. The artist had taken the money that was supposed to be Used for the piece, and simply ran off. What was left was a blank canvas. People who shit on modern art refuse to find context for anything. Instead, yall are just stuck up on old facist beliefs about beuty and what art Can be.
@@BlueSorcerer You dorks throw around the word "fascist" so much that it has lost all its meaning. Not that you were using it correctly to begin with, but man... what an embarrassing post.
It legit is. Some of the best artists out there are enormous trolls, even back during the Renaissance. A perfect example is a rich prick buying Banksy art (a STREET artist who is aggressively anti-consumerist) that automatically shredded itself when it sold.
Partially. They realized that a certain demographic of people was spending millions on trivial nonsense to launder money. So they took the opportunity. I’m sure it was unintentional for some, but I bet most knew what they were doing.
When I was younger someone told me that modern art is all about the idea, not the execution and that made modern art make sense. Then a few years ago someone told me that modern art is mainly a way for the wealthy to launder their money and that made modern art make way more sense.
well idk why the artists would care about why the artists would care especially because the rich only pay them a commision and then later on let some art critic overprice it. Zero chance any of that money is making back to the artist
@@IRDeadysorta sounds like a feedback loop. Makes sense how it got popular then but I’ll never get or understand how people can go to these exhibits and have some kind of “profound” thought from it. Like you can literally create an analogy out of ANYTHING
@@soberstoners7610 eh, I get it. I've seen some stuff that I thought was really great. A lot of the artists are in it for the right reasons, but one of the main things about it all is that there is no right reasons. Art is an can be anything. even if it's just a money laundering scheme you could still say that that is a very clear representation of the world and times we live in. I don't know, if you go in thinking "is it art?" Then you've already ruined your experience. It's kind of an embrace of the idea that it's all what you get from it.
I love the really small, quick memes the editor puts in, like when he says "Paris" at 18:49 and like one second of "fine distinguished gentlemen of African descent in Paris" plays
Contemporary artists are like the guy who's a checkout bagger at a grocery store, but puts "Goods Management and Transportation Specialist" on their resume. 55% confidence, 44% audacity, 1% artistic skill.
True. But I'd argue that all three characteristics exist within all artists *who put their work out for consumption... The ratios definitely vary- Especially the percentage of artistic skill- But it takes all three things to do it
Not always, I’d argue performance artists kinda lean more into this, but a lot of artists I’ve known have a ton of learned skills in things like ceramics and painting that take years to actually get good at, and a lot of them are pretty chill and normal people. The stuff you’re talking about tends to become more of an issue with highly successful artists (financially speaking) who buy into their own hype. Also, not coming at u specifically, but the trend of calling artists unskilled is kinda pretentious atp too
I stupidly did fine art as my university course, I lasted 2 years and dropped out in the 3rd. Sad thing is? I liked drawing when I went in, I haven’t picked up a pencil or a pen since and that was 6 years ago now. Some of the most pretentious, stuck up people, students & staff I’ve ever had to sadly meet.
I went to college initially to get a BFA degree, and after three years came to the conclusion that most contemporary "fine art" was all just a bunch of pretentious bullshit. After realizing that this would never translate to an actual career that would put a roof over my head, I switched to graphic design.
I remember when back in like 2017 me, my brother and my older sister went to this art gallery (in Finland). Most of the so called art there was 💩 I particularly remember one where there was a ladder and in front of the ladder was some man figurine made of clay, with it's mouth open. There were punch of pretentious looking people staring at it like it was some groundbreaking, glorious thing. When they saw that we were shaking our heads while trying to hold in our laughter, they looked at us like we were some ignorant plebeians, it was hilarious!
What is wild about the Robot arm isn't so much that it's trying to clean up the pool. But I remember it on a reddit post: "No piece of art has ever emotionally affected me the way this robot arm piece has. It's programmed to try to contain the hydraulic fluid that’s constantly leaking out and required to keep itself running...if too much escapes, it will die so it's desperately trying to pull it back to continue to fight for another day. Saddest part is they gave the robot the ability to do these 'happy dances' to spectators. When the project was first launched it danced around spending most of its time interacting with the crowd since it could quickly pull back the small spillage. Many years later... (as you see it now in the video) it looks tired and hopeless as there isn't enough time to dance anymore.. It now only has enough time to try to keep itself alive as the amount of leaked hydraulic fluid became unmanageable as the spill grew over time. Living its last days in a never-ending cycle between sustaining life and simultaneously bleeding out... (Figuratively and literally as its hydraulic fluid was purposefully made to look like it's actual blood). "The robot arm finally ran out of hydraulic fluid in 2019, slowly came to a halt and died "
yeah idk about the whole immigration thing, but the hopelessness and monotony it makes people feel is definitely real, what I also think is interesting is how we as humans give this machine human emotions, and most people feel like the machine is sad or we're sad for it, just another interesting layer
I found the answer to this. The arm is a KUKA model KR180 R3100 K. It has a footprint of 800mm x 830mm and a weight of approximately 1168kg, costing $19.000. it is rated to lift 180kg but can lift 230kg at most. It‘s ambient temperature during operation is 10 °C to 55 °C. It‘s controller is a KR C4 It could fit in a large enough home, given it has enough room.
I think my favourite modern artist is Zdzislaw Beksinski, his art is just so sick and just the way he draws beings and these messed up, hellish worlds is so cool
I had to do a little project about Beksinski in high school for my teacher (she wasn’t very nice tbh) but I was also able to look at Beksinski’s art. Fantastic stuff, truly.
idk people shit on Ono too hard man. If you ever do any digging no one is pissed at her, and like really she is just expressing herself. People blame her for the break up of the Beatles but that is ridiculous and there are so many factors that lead to the end of the Beatles. I hate to say it but a lot of it is sexism, and I dont throw that word around lightly like extremist feminists do. Everyone does goofy stuff but when she does it it’s pretentious and she gets shit for it. Idk knowing what she has been through with watching the love of her life get brutally murdered and taken away from her right before her eyes, holding his cold body as he dies. She has never re married either. idk. give yoko ono a fucking break
@@sexdeathfashionshe is the reason John Lennon magnified into a piece of shit. She’s the reason he was a deadbeat to his son Julian and why Paul McCartney had to step in to fill that role for Julian. She’s the one who kept his ego inflated, which led him to assume more and more control of the Beatles name without input from the other members. You can defend her all you want but her and Lennon were pieces of shits who tried to be a symbol of love and freedom all the while enjoying the privileges of upper class society.
I think people blaming Yoko is wrong, Lennon was his own person. I disagree though that she can just do what she wants on performances. I mean what she was doing made what Chuck Berry was doing irrelevant as you couldn't hear his stuff, or the rest of the band.
@@sexdeathfashion no she didnt end the beatles that claim is silly, however she doesnt seem like a nice person she did some pretty awful stuff to one of lenons sons after his death forgot which one but look in to it if youre intressted. besides that she does seem pretty pretentious to me not silly fun.
as someone who also went to art school (wish I didn't, but I was dumb and 17 when I decided to go), once we had a student exhibit where a student covered a chair completely in kraft cheese whiz. Not a single inch of that chair was uncovered, and it stunk up the room completely, but my professor kept going on about how "revolutionary" it was or whatever. Same exhibit, another student recorded a conversation between her and her neglectful mother, and played it over gameplay footage of two Sims talking. It was incredibly uncomfortable to sit thru, and professor kept insisting it was "her animation" even though it was CLEARLY Sims footage. I'm glad I transferred out for the following semester
Art performances are so bizzare…one video that still haunts me to this day, whenever I think about contemporary art, is a video where a girl struggles to open a can of spaghetti-os cuts open the crotch of her pants and then shoves the pasta up inside her. All while a whole room watches with mixed expressions and takes pictures. I believe the video is still on RU-vid….
If I remember correctly it was someone who just placed their glasses by the wall and stepped away to stare at it. After a crowd started to gather, he walked up and put his glasses back on and walked away. 😂
The duct tape banana is my roman empire. If anyone's art belongs in a museum, Papa Meat's ABSOLUTELY deserves a spot. Not only is it skilled and profound, but traumatizing children is extremely funny
I feel like the deeper the meaning you try to staple to contemporary art the less it means. You can absolutely do silly things for art, but embracing the silly somehow feels more substantial.
Fun fact: most modern art exists for the purpose of money laundering Fun fact 2: The guy whose “art piece” is a dead shark keeps having to kill new sharks because the old one rots. Fun fact 3: Urinals, chairs, and most other objects taken and presented without change are indeed art(as the design of 3D, everyday objects is some of the most complex and iterative in any industry), but the designer is almost never the one submitting it as art and so they are never credited :(
lol the "shrink wrap" is 100% a fetish object. I had a ... friend who wired up his house with a sort of central vacuum so he could put himself in the vac bed silently. (He also had a dead man's switch so the vac stayed on as long as his finger was pressing the trigger.)
Vac beds are HUGE on the bondage scene, but the way it was portrayed in the art is significantly less lewd, all the participants are clothed and most vac beds are solid black.
The coolest modern art piece I’ve seen is the robot that’s constantly bleeding out and it’s designed to clean up the fluid as it’s bleeding because it believes it will die without it but it actually doesn’t need the fluid at all.
Oh yeah I have seen that, Eventually with the constant work and the fluid the robot will stop working. Thats kinda has meaning and I really loved that.
Ive heard about this several times but I never saw any information about it not needing the fluid. Every story is that it did indeed need the fluid but as it wore down it leaked more and more until it couldnt function anymore awhile ago.
Lmao truth. I went to art school and had a fun time but 2 years after graduation I continue to question what it really did for me (minus some good life lessons). I will say, my biggest piece of advice for artists post grad/just starting out/looking to improve is to either find a mentor or find an artist you really like and draw inspiration from them. Personally, I work part time and it’s a bit of a painful financial stretch to pay for the mentorship that I found, but my art has really blossomed since then. I care about it so I wanted to invest!
This video really opens up a conversation about the definition of art. It's a wild mix of absurd, creative, thought-provoking and at some points, hilariously outrageous modern art pieces. Can't help but be drawn to the unique ways artists express themselves, no matter how unconventional.
@@MaxPopp-ej7fxi thought I was going crazy, I knew I had remembered that weird performance of the dude hitting the metal pole with a cane taped to him. Glad to know I didn't imagine it.
I am an art professor & honestly if you can bullshit a concept you can be a fine artist. Wild but the whole career of being an artist is about gaslighting the viewers into thinking your work is ~DEEP AND UNIQUE~
Got a bachelors in fine art over 10 years ago and it’s true. As long as you can write well you can bullshit it. You could do a dot on a piece of paper and if you write well enough and reference enough artists you’ll pass.
It actually has very little to do with what the artist says, its about what the "art world" says it means and they are one's bullshiting everyone, not the artists themselves.
I went to art school and once my professor went to this huge art gallery and put an empty soda can on the floor in the way it looked like it was part of the exhibition. People started gathering around the soda can, taking pictures and arguing about the meaning behind it. And I think it says a lot about this whole deal w fine arts.
Francis Bacon is great! Did you know: that pope painting you mentioned is just a study of Diego Velasquez’s portrait of pope innocent, which was considered to be like the epitome of portraiture at some point. Francis bacon turned that shit into nightmare fuel multiple times.
The small edit at 21:34 of the song by Kanye & Jay z while he talks about the artist based out of Paris is incredible and such a hilarious small comedic detail
2:21 Glasses Left behind was actually a test, some guy looked at all the garbage on display and thought these people are so up their own asses, that if he put his glasses on the gerund they would be dumb enough to think it was art, and it worked. A similar experiment was done at a college, a professor showed his students a painting and asked them to tell why it was brilliant, they all gave him word salad answers, then he revealed the painting was just a photo of his apron. Modern art is proof, their is a sucker born every minute.
If it's that guy from the prager u videos IIRC he lied and said it was a Pollock painting. I dunno if it's a meaningful exercise, because if an art *professor* tells me a painting is by someone, and I'm not familiar with an artist's library of works in part or at all (even if I'm an art student that doesn't mean I know who did what all of the time), I'd be inclined to believe them and go along with the exercise. I could say some random AI image is by some artist and if people believe me it doesn't really prove anything other than I'm a liar, which is an accusation I see people like the professor level at many fine artists.
@@Arum638 it's not "the professor said it was a pollock painting and everyone believed it", it's "the professor said it was a brilliant piece and everyone retroactively gave it meaning". the thing being proven wasn't that you can say something was made by someone it wasn't, it was that a lot of these people only engage superficially and say stuff to sound smart instead of actually having opinions or seeing real meaning.
@@alexshepherd8975 I looked up the video again, his instructions were "analyze this Pollock painting and tell me why it's good." He didn't call it brilliant, he called it a Pollock. Some 4D chess strat to subliminally prime his students to think it's brilliant? No, he wanted to feel smug. He told his students to complete a specific assignment, not to have a genuine opinion or to see 'real' meaning (something which Pollock never assigned any of his paintings, funny enough), they did it, you know, *for a grade,* then he screeched "YOU FOOLS, 'tis not a Pollock but my SMOCK!" and then Pollocked all over the place. The only pretentious one here is him.
I didn't expect my classmate I went to art school with to end up in a Papa Meat video omg, shoutout to Jack Almgren he's a really nice and cool guy, also, he has another work with a paper roll with a hole burnt through it and apples stuck on the side of the roll, good stuff.
The advice you gave about part time job and working on your art on your free time, felt like you were directly speaking to me. Because I'm 20, an animator and also a backend developer and sometimes I think of dropping the backend developer side. So that I can focus more on my art, and exponentially grow my animation skills and youtube channel.
@@woecelto be fair it’s designed to garner empathy from the viewer. The piece is designed to show despite how much we try to hold ourselves together we will fall apart and stop functioning altogether in the end. Regardless of how much we try to lengthen our time we all have a the same ending (in the open ended sense where end means death, and not the specific type of death that befalls a person). So yeah, we can relate to that very well on an existential level. But I agree wholeheartedly it’s wild to think I can feel so deeply for a robot that was built to die, and look that way - but we personify everything because it’s how we can most relate to the world around us.
@@sloppyglizzy8313the dumb part is it’s not designed with that in mind, the original artist said it was about immigration, he just got lucky and happened to make a piece that can be attributed with an idea that deep
I remember in art school this one dude did a really cool renaissance tier pen and pencil drawing with angels and stuff. The teacher and the rest of the class were disinterested even though he was the most skilled person in the class because they didn't get any message from it.
Well i mean skill has very little meaning in my opinion because art is so subjective to begin with. You can be skillfull at a specific style but if you don't do anything unique with that style what are you really bringing to the table meaning wise.
@@junebug9841 5userdfgliytfjyxduf75dkyrdci.ub htutfutf,utxc.lugj,b nbgv Now that was pretty unique wasn't it. Arfully typed that with some beautiful motion with the fingers on my right hand. Look at the meaning I brought to the table Im so unique
Every time i see something from Pollock, my first thought is: "That guy musta been *angry*, mood" i kinda empathize with just throwing paint at a canvas until your anger and pain makes something of it, especially with how much stuff he's gone through in his personal life
Papa Meat is one the best channels RU-vid has to offer truly. I cant get enough of this content. I dont know your name Papa Meat dude but you are awesome. The world needs many more people like you.
I remember going to the museum of contemporary art in London. It was filled with weird random color goopy paintings and also a signed toilet. I had so much fun trying to interpret each painting with my friends. I madeexaggerated gestures and used big words. It went so far that a couple asian tourists looked at me as if i actually knew wtf i was talking about. So there is definitely some fun to be found in this weird shit
Love your content man..I'm also a big fan of your type of art you use as well..love the grittyness of it, and slight dark undertone of it all It's different in its own way💯....keep up the good shit man,...rock on 🤟🤟🤟
I liked that machine at the end of the video. Reminded me of those moments when in horror or so gets their guts slashed and tries to hold them in but they keep flopping out.
As someone who is about to graduate next week with my Masters of Fine Arts - contemporary art is the absolute dumbest thing. Teaching my students to just make cool shit and present it with confidence
Contemporary art has been by far the most memorable to me, and has affected me more than any other art form simply because it is completely unrestricted in its medium, and is therefore freer than any other art form to express and convey its message. There is bad art, but the reason you see more bad contemporary art is because you are contemporary. Had you lived in the 1700s, you would have seen all the bad 1700s art that is forgotten and unseen now.
@@rakelodakel time to accept objectivity means more than what is taught in higher education in regards to what is and isn't ok. Bad art exists and is prolific in affluent and higher class circles, whilst in education you'll believe you're part of this enlightened upper caste - the second you graduate you'll re-join the rest of us unwashed scum in the real world and realise that objective ugliness and deconstruction is a demoralising factor employed against the common person by those on high.
12:55 this video was genuinely wiped completely from my brain i don't even remember where i saw it but having that forcefully pulled out of the memory vault was jarring
Modern art is a rich people loop hole for the most part. And everyone is basically in it together, very rare is it an actual "new upsommung artist" that hasn't been planted there by someone rich and got hyped up to make their work worth money. Then if they get a piece worth something they can donate it and count it as a charitable tax write off especially if the art in question was worth millions. So to everyone trying to break into it either keep dreaming, find someone rich that you can pull this scheme off with or get so good and so much exposure you can't be denied your place.
@@MoreReds it'd be easier to set them up to win the lottery. Everyone gets a good check and status to a degree. That's long term money. Why would they want the shortest end of the stick when they can drag it on for years at a time?
@@starsalior4503 it's to the best of my recollection and I have no reason to lie to strangers on the internet. If you have an interjection, just make it. Isn't that what the comment section is for? I'm just some guy on the internet so you can take it with as few grains of salt as you can but I didn't try to benefit myself in any way and it doesn't do anything for me. I wanted more to emphasize the message at the end because it is a cruel industry to enter with high hopes and no idea how to claim their possition in that world. There are alot of factors but I'm not going to write you a 2 page exam paper on my stance. Use the comment section and get the convo of this going. I'm always down to see someone elses point of view or experience and I'm pretty sure there are going to be people looking for reads, they might learn something.
@@starsalior4503 it's to the best of my recollection and lying to strangers on the internet does nothing for me. If you have an interjection just speak up it's what the comment section is here for. I'm not about to shoot down anyones experiences because we're all just randoms on the internet so you can take as many grains of salt as you'd like and it wouldn't bother anyone.
i like how you at the start of this being "ha, let's look at so dumb contemporary and have some laugh." and then being interesting in some of the works, the conclusion is great too, i feel like a lot of people focus too much on the sold prices of of those pieces, but the value is beyond the numbers on the check. For me i kinda like Emmanuel's work cuz it reminds me of the curves are arches of the movements in animations, and it's interesting to see a human actually visualize those curves in his movement.
As someone who's actually going to school for art, it's a real slap in the face when people with no real skill make thousands off of their "art." I've been practicing my craft for seven years, but these people will quickly upstage real artists.
only because we let them and don't want to "hurt feelings" or be contentious with the correct assessment that most of this is trash, pushed by vapid and vacuous trash heaps. Like when you don't immediately tell someone their affinity for and adherence to astrology shit or crystals is stupid and has no effect on anything.... Seems harmless, until you realize that if you don't give them the real deal, do you really even care about them?
The Ryobi sneaker drills were displayed until some guy in a green sweater ran in, said something about 'teaching them to learn to walk on land', and threw them into an aquarium.
The Ryobi drill vs Milwaukee drill bit had me in stitches. I’ve worked with both visiting their manufacturing ops in Guangzhou. They’re under the same parent company and manufacture their tools at the same factory anyway lol
With the buckets of sand that topple under their own weight, that sounds like a great metaphor that you write into a book about geopolitical turmoil or that a character recites in a revolutionary fantasy novel, not an entire standalone art piece.
drummer here that was deep into solo snare performance in high school; i recommend checking out "Asventuras" by Alexej Gerassimez for some "experimental" snare goodness that is genuinely musical and very cool to listen to. its on youtube
Bleeding Me is the most underrated song of all time, and The Outlaw Torn (Unencumbered Version) is truly magnificent. I didn't think you were such a man of culture, MEat.
I love whoever edits these videos, at 21:31 papa says “Paris” and they added a half second of Kanye’s “gentlemen in Paris” it’s the little things that kill me in these videos
I’m a big Beksinski fan. He’s created some of the most harrowing and dark works of art I’ve seen. His experience under Nazi and Soviet control in his home country of Poland really adds layers to the art. His use of Prussian blue in some of his art is made from the same chemicals used in the gas chambers in concentration camps. Other artists I’d recommend are: Otto Dix, John Martin, Vladimir Kush, Heironymous Bosch, MC Escher, Gustav Dore, and Bruegel
I recorded the kettle boilling audio with a video animation of tea stains projection, while also leaving kettle in the space. It was on loop that the local lecturer/ techinan turned it off because it was so annoying
28:07 the “art” is the machine arm is leaking hydraulic fluid that makes the arm move, is the equivalent of a human being hooked up to a machine that drains the blood and pours it onto the floor and the person has to scoop it up into an area that will collect the blood and pump into into the person or they will die from the blood loss.
I think part of what makes art art is that there are people who do things that others can't. For example whether you like Meat Canyon or not you can't deny that his ideas are different AND there is effort by at least one person. The type of art in this video involves spending more time and effort convincing you it is something than was actually spent on the art itself.
13:30 so many years ago I saw parts of this "performance" but the video I knew stopped after the guy pulled out the cane flute thing. I feel so blessed to finally see more of that "performance"
I've seen Rysuke play in person. The show lasts longer than you expect but actually it's such an amazing atmosphere and as a drummer myself it's some of the stuff he does is impressive. And at the end of my show he legit just passed out.
I think Duchamps Fountain (toilet) was actually meant to be a joke that people could get anything in an art museum under the right conditions, except joke went to far and became a movement all its own *dada
Dada and ready mades were already around for a while before Fountain so I wouldn’t say duchampe started dada, although he definitely blew it into the stratosphere
The SECOND I saw the guy walk out at 12:43 and saw that menacing stare I knew what was gonna happen 😭 I saw that clip a long time ago and remember cackling like a seal. It’s so unhinged and the fact that it was performance art is the cherry on top.
27:22 it comes from an assumption than we exist and where not created, thusly we could return to whatever that would be. A misunderstanding of cause and effect if you ask me.
I think DuChamp’s “Le Fountain” was remarkable in the fact that it was done in 1917 not 1940, doing something like this was beyond unheard of at the time and he still followed the artistic guidelines of the gallery space which was “whatever you bring us no matter how good or bad it is we will hang it up and display it” and DuChamp went bet and scribbled his name on a urinal. It’s art in the way that defiance itself is art, it’s a statement that even the things you see every day can be art even if you piss in it. It also says that what i see in art is not exactly what you would see but its art regardless. Like for 1917 that was mind blowing. It was meme art before meme art. You gotta respect that.
He also never said it was “good” art, just that it was in fact art. Easy to take that for granted now but at the time even impressionist art and the like was considered “not real art” because it wasn’t a picture of a fucking apple or something. Art was also considered to be for the bourgeois not the common people, so to take something as lowly and common and purely utilitarian as a urinal, and call that art, was also a statement about who art was for
@@Tiger10002 Taking a look at your channel, it's just gameplay videos and tiktok re-uploads, how is a professional camera going to help for either of those things?
For one of my high school classes I had ap art history and we learned about contemporary art everything past the 1900s is bs like the man bitting and scratching a chocolate box and considering it art and another work of a woman who was just obsessed with dots and orgys
@@Pragabond I tend to type fast and I don’t feel like rewriting things so it looks like a mess the answer to that is no I’m not having a stroke but I do have occasional seizures and spasms because I am a weird little boy
