The Eagles Had a Moron at Wide Receiver

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Imagine coming to terms on a contract to play in the NFL, then deciding to ghost your team, ghost your agent, and not tell anyone that you changed your mind, leaving everyone in the dark and ruining your chances at ever playing in the NFL again. Well, in 1985, that's exactly what happened with Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver Melvin Hoover, and let's just say that this grand plan of his did not go as he thought it would
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@christiansorensen5611 16 дней назад

JG9, keep up your “(Team) had a moron at (x)” series. There’s so many stories like that, and I, for one, am a sucker for stories like that. So keep it up, JG9

@williammcmillan7502 15 дней назад

I am an Eagle fan who is old enough to remember this guy. But I never heard of him.

@Stratman1512 12 дней назад

He wasn’t much to remember, except for that TD at Miami Dolphins in 84

@rodgerlang884 6 дней назад

Same here. I was 13 in 1985. One would think I would have at least had an "oh yeah" moment when he was brought up, but absolutely nothing.....

@Stratman1512 5 дней назад

I was 14. I definitely remember him, as that huge game in 1984 against the 10-0 going on 11-0 Miami Dolphins game we totally played the Dolphins, but don’t really want to remember him

@damien5138 15 дней назад

I'm Freddie Mitchell and I approve this message

@KK-eg3em 13 дней назад

Fred EX had a few great catches. He's the people's champion 🏆 4th and 26 will always be remembered.

@cvn6555 12 дней назад

Thought of him when I saw the title.

@bobapep20 11 дней назад

I remember one year I locked up a fantasy football league before the last game. And the Eagles locked up a playoff spot and I knew they would start all backups last game. I pretty much dropped every non Eagle I had and picked up every Eagles backup. The main ones I remember were Koy Detmer and Freddie Mitchell. I can't remember who the backup running back and tight ends were. I still won with all the backups.

@cvn6555 11 дней назад

@@bobapep20 Not surprising. If the other team is out of it and thinking about where they are going to play golf the Eagles backups would have been playing their absolute hardest for a roster spot next season and maybe some snaps in the playoffs.

@BobFrenzyFace 7 дней назад

FIRST DOWN FREDDY

@Rayman-cd8bd 12 дней назад

After reading the title, I thought for sure this was gonna be about T.O.

@bb-gc2tx 16 дней назад

im getting a melvin hoover throw back jersey 🤣

@MrTim2031 16 дней назад

This title could cover just about every year in Eagles history.

@badlandskid 15 дней назад

😂

@lawrencefine5020 11 дней назад

True..until now.

@MrTim2031 11 дней назад

@@lawrencefine5020 completely agree, knock on wood.

@CapPTanMcKringleBerries 7 дней назад

@@lawrencefine5020 your pic 🤢🤮

@mclovinpo 7 дней назад

We for sure always had at least one home head receiver

@orbyfan 16 дней назад

I was in my 20s in 1987 and had a pulse, and I didn't get a call from any NFL team--but I wasn't a football player.

@bedfordclothier2715 15 дней назад

Not no mo! We have three excellent wide receivers heading into this 2024 season. Probably the best of any team in the NFL.

@MrMegaMario64 14 дней назад

Just promise that you don't let Kenny Pickett throw to them. I'd genuinely hate for yinz on the other side of the state to falter with him.

@cvn6555 12 дней назад

until recently it has mostly been no-talents

@daysoff4ever 6 дней назад

uh, what about the Texans 3?

@jonahfalcon1970 16 дней назад

Then there's the 1953 film I Love Melvin with Donald O'Conner playing... Melvin Hoover.

@Subbuteohobby 16 дней назад

The kicker who missed the XP after Hoover’s TD at Miami in 1984 was Paul McFadden. Tony Franklin was by then with the Patriots. Both were barefoot kickers.

@Stratman1512 16 дней назад

@@Subbuteohobby yup I already told him just after it aired.

@OfficialJaguarGator9 16 дней назад

Yep my bad on that one. Forgot to double check that!

@crazybeatlefan 12 дней назад

I was at the Miami game...the XP was BLOCKED..not missed.

@Stratman1512 12 дней назад

@@crazybeatlefan yes blocked by Miami DE Doug Betters but if McFadden from what I remember (as I used to watch the NFL game of the week broadcast for that game for many years after on my VHS, then on RU-vid watched a few times.) If Paul wouldn’t of kicked a line drive practically straight into Betters, and kicked it like he normally did. there’s no way Betters would be able to block it.(as McFadden had a unbelievable rookie season.) That Eagle eagle team could’ve easily been 10-6, Even with that horrible O. line, And Wes Hopkins in his second season made pro bowl n AP next year he was PB again AND FIRST team AP and was by far away the hardest hitter in football, played 11 years till 1993 all with the Eagles but jis injury IN 86 cost him a step, and he was still the hardest hitter in NFL but not as good of a cover guy as he was pre 86. But in 1985 her was the best Safety in the NFL,better than Ronnie Lott, John Maden’s words.

@davidthompson4649 11 дней назад

@@Stratman1512 I LOVED Wes Hopkins..he was a hall of famer in the making until that injury that cost him almost two years..I still have my #48 jersey. .

@joeystreets3606 15 дней назад

It was a blessing in disguise as it lead to the elevation of Eagles clutch third down receiver Greg Garrity.

@Stratman1512 14 дней назад

@@joeystreets3606 nice one-Garrity had that great clutch catch to beat Washington in 1987 (that was the one game a year that my dad would take me to) turned our season around and our “non scab team” was 7-5 again, (not counting the 0-3 scabs) we were winners for the next five years if you include 87 as a winning year. & I never cared for Hoover but Garrity I always thought should get the ball a little bit more. He had a great set of hands.

@joeystreets3606 14 дней назад

Garrity was affectionately referred to as The Trash Man as he could catch any garbage throw. Great times to remember with your father! I too was blessed growing up during that time period and could walk to the games from South Randolph Street. The 1988 Eagles Team is still my all time favorite tean!

@Stratman1512 14 дней назад

@@joeystreets3606 Love the 1988 Eagles-in the last week of the season -Eagles blow out the cowboys 24-7 to clinch a playoff spot and then CBS goes directly to the Giants-Jets game late in 4th and with under a minute left Ken O’Brien throws a TD pass to Al Toon and the Eagles win the NFC East for the first time in 8 years! I remember going ape. Then the Giants had to hope for the 49ers to beat the Rams in the 8 PM game to make the playoffs, “no problem the future Super Bowl champion 49ers won’t lose to the Rams,” and the 49ers lose to the Rams! and the Rams are in Giants are out. Giants don’t even make the playoffs. It was like quadruple sweet, all in one day. 1-Eagles blowout Cowboys 2-Eagles clinch playoffs for first time in 7 years 3-Giants lose to Jets 4-Eagles clinch division. 5-Rams beat 49ers and Giants are left sucking there thumbs till next season. LT is sucking on something else most likely. Wow that’s to much seratonin build up for any Eagles Fan.

@Stratman1512 14 дней назад

@@joeystreets3606 Love the 1988 Eagles-in the last week of the season -Eagles blow out the cowboys 24-7 to clinch a playoff spot and then CBS goes directly to the Giants-Jets game late in 4th and with under a minute left Ken O’Brien throws a TD pass to Al Toon and the Eagles win the NFC East for the first time in 8 years! I remember going ape. Then the Giants had to hope for the 49ers to beat the Rams in the 8 PM game to make the playoffs, “no problem the future Super Bowl champion 49ers won’t lose to the Rams,” and the 49ers lose to the Rams! and the Rams are in Giants are out. Giants don’t even make the playoffs. It was like quadruple sweet, all in one day. 1-Eagles blowout Cowboys 2-Eagles clinch playoffs for first time in 7 years 3-Giants lose to Jets 4-Eagles clinch division. 5-Rams beat 49ers and Giants are left sucking there thumbs till next season. LT is left sucking on something else most likely. Wow that’s to much seratonin build up for any Eagles Fan.

@Stratman1512 14 дней назад

@@joeystreets3606 Love the 1988 Eagles-in the last week of the season -Eagles blow out the cowboys 24-7 to clinch a playoff spot and then CBS goes directly to the Giants-Jets game late in 4th and with under a minute left Ken O’Brien throws a TD pass to Al Toon and the Eagles win the NFC East for the first time in 8 years! I remember going ape. Then the Giants had to hope for the 49ers to beat the Rams in the 8 PM game to make the playoffs, “no problem the future Super Bowl champion 49ers won’t lose to the Rams,” and the 49ers lose to the Rams! and the Rams are in Giants are out. Giants don’t even make the playoffs. It was like quadruple sweet, all in one day. 1-Eagles blowout Cowboys 2-Eagles clinch playoffs for first time in 7 years 3-Giants lose to Jets 4-Eagles clinch division. 5-Rams beat 49ers and Giants are left sucking there thumbs till next season. Wow that’s to much seratonin build up for any Eagles Fan.

@jefffuller9918 15 дней назад

In the words of former NBA star Latrell Sprewell, "I have a family to feed."

@aVerveQuest 6 дней назад

When I think of the most solid third-down receivers of all time I always think of Troy Brown

@s.tavares3257 16 дней назад

I’d love if you could do a video on Albert Connell who has some really good seasons as a Redskin, then went to the Saints and allegedly stole money from Deuce McAllister’s locker and that was the last anyone heard about him.

@robertgeist3266 15 дней назад

I saw #85 and thought it was Charlie Smith.

@aaropajari7058 14 дней назад

Me too. I thought I'd already know about it if it was him.

@CTubeMan 16 дней назад

I’ll say it, Hoover’s antics sucked.

@dr.awkward9075 16 дней назад

This joke was created in a vacuum.

@Bobbybauer1 16 дней назад

Sounds like an Unsolved Mystery in need of an update

@CTubeMan 16 дней назад

Too bad Robert Stack passed away.

@PatrickMersinger 14 дней назад

Melvin Hoover basically spiked the ball into the ground every play.

@dunkelmonkey 6 дней назад

😂 I'm an Eagles fan but I've only ever just heard of him now Norman Braman DEFINITELY has a reputation in Philadelphia for being a cheapskate, he notoriously allowed Reggie White to walk away without even making an offer, but I don't think THIS was a situation where he gave a lowball offer to a player and forced him to walk

@markreynolds2347 14 дней назад

Chris Carter was a eagles reject worked at for the vikings

@humanipulationnation 13 дней назад

Cris, hun

@A_YouTube_Commenter 12 дней назад

Buddy Ryan cut him because he had an addiction to the white powder. He at least got better.

@rodgerlang884 6 дней назад

@@A_RU-vid_Commenter When CC told that story, my respect for Buddy jumped off the charts. He could have ended CC's career, but instead took the heat for getting rid of him and led to a hall of fame career.

@A_YouTube_Commenter 6 дней назад

@@rodgerlang884 Exactly. He gave him a chance to get it together. Which he did. Buddy Ryan had some good qualities.

@MichaelJKospiah 15 дней назад

Dig the channel, but I usually have to skip ahead a lot. Lots of repeating the same info over and over again for emphasis and/or to stretch the video time.

@denisceballos9745 16 дней назад

Looks like Melvin Hoover (85) had some talent. Who knows why he chose to just not show up. No regrets? Maybe, but more likely, “I coulda been a contender”.

@CTubeMan 16 дней назад

This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about how Antowain Smith’s “agents” requested a trade in 2000.

@trevornever27 15 дней назад

This never turns out well for anyone. Always reminds me of LeVeon Bell, just greedy grubbed himself into obscurity

@johnnyboy55 11 дней назад

Antonio Brown too.

@trevornever27 11 дней назад

@@johnnyboy55 good point, both originallly steelers too

@Unknown-bq9id 16 дней назад

Even Terrell Owens, as talented as he was, wouldn't have gotten away with doing what Hoover did...

@CTubeMan 16 дней назад

Why not?

@briannearey8902 12 дней назад

The telling thing about this video to me is there are a lot of Giant secondary players from the 86 championship team in this video. One thing no Giant fan ever talks about is how lucky we were to have the front 7 we had in 86, because the secondary might have been the worst starting secondary to ever win a Super Bowl. Terry Kinard was injured most of the year,and Kenny Hill was the best player in the defensive backfield. Elvis "toast" Patterson and Perry Williams were the starting corners,and a rookie,Herb Welch,was the other Safety. The front 7 had to be as great as they were,or they wouldn't have won it all.

@GeorgeLindseySr 15 дней назад

Braman was really cheap, but that move was boneheaded!

@Jiggs2u2 15 дней назад

Bottom line Bramen

@Stratman1512 14 дней назад

84 was our last year with Leonard Tose as owner, so Hoovers new contract was on Braman. But Tose wouldn’t have signed Hoover to a new contract even for a shiny new slot machine.

@cvn6555 12 дней назад

Geez we had the absolute worst owners for the longest time. Corresponded with WR that were drunks, losers, slow, flakes. Guys that nobody else really wanted.

@Stratman1512 12 дней назад

@@cvn6555 Tose was a decent owner, (until his last couple of years when his gambling and especially his blackjack playing got way out of control.) would’ve been interesting if coach Vermeil would’ve taken Tose up on the proposal of buying Coach V. basically any player he wanted, when Coach V came here In 76, but you gotta give it to coach Dick Vermeil, He wanted to build it up from the draft, and most everyone he got were low draft picks and walk-ons who so many became stars. And even more so Tose proposed it again after 78 when we finally made the playoffs. And Coach said no. I wish Coach V would’ve at least asked him to get them an offensive guard. As from 1979 to 81 we had a pretty good line with Walters and Sizemore as our book-ends and Guy Morris up the middle. But was always upset about the lack of pull Blocking on those late 70s early 80s Eagles teams. We always had lackluster guards even in 79 to 81 , and as Morriss was very good at but had no (in coach Vermeil’s words “no giddy up”) so he couldn’t really get downfield & help block for Wilbert. Besides at the Line scrimmage, (which Guy did that very well for both the pass and the run) so yeah at least 1 OG would have been great to pluck off another team. After Tose filed for bankruptcy and sold the team, Coach Vermeil was paying for all his living expenses the rest of his life, including his apartment. And in what I think was Leonard’s last interview, he said “i never regretted anything I did in life”. How about letting another man pay your way! He is considered the first of the high rollers. As for stormin Norman, he was just horrible.

@Stratman1512 12 дней назад

@@cvn6555 yes I just wrote a whole huge thing on Tose and Braman, as a reply to you, And it all got scrubbed.

@cvn6555 11 дней назад

@@Stratman1512 Thanks anyway. The worst sort of crooked, shyster absentee owners.

@Stratman1512 10 дней назад

@@cvn6555 Braman was horrible from the start, the first thing he did was trade, Wilbert Montgomery, who had a career ending injury early in week seven starting for the lions, but different circumstances with the Eagles he most likely would’ve done a lot better, probably wouldn’t have had a career ending injury. And he still retired 15th on the all-time rushing list despite injuries and only playing 107 games in 9 seasons. And wrote mostly about Tose, as he was good for a while, then when his blackjack playing got too much and lost his money because of that, his in last few years in Philly was horrible as well. I should have done what I Usually do and copy and paste my long posts in case I lose them, when I write something long on RU-vid, as From both my cable company and my apartment my Wi-Fi and iPhone goes in and out and I think it has something to do with that, because I’ve been having problems posting things on RU-vid for about a year. I cant remember what I wrote about Braman n Tose but when I feel better, definitely have a lot to say on both of them. As I wrote a lot now, I guess, butdidn’t give much info, But for now. I’ll just say.-100% agreed buddy.

@shackdaddy7106 15 дней назад

It’s kind of funny you say that a player should honor their contract when you consider how contracts are handled today. Players with one or even two years left on their deal are always trying to get an extension and change their contract. I understand that the rules were way different in the mid 80s. But still.

@OfficialJaguarGator9 15 дней назад

Bit different because the man agreed to a contract then backed out immediately after coming to terms and didn't tell anyone he was doing that

@italianwaterice9594 13 дней назад

hes got charlie "homeboy" smiths number from 1979

@nickbradfordsr80 12 дней назад

I know I'm not a PATRON, but I have a fascinating idea for a future episode on how the former infamous record producer of DEATH ROW, Marion "Suge" Knight played for the LA Rams during the strike season of 1987

@A_YouTube_Commenter 12 дней назад

This is a good channel. I can't be a patron just yet but this is one channel I would definitely do it for.

@SlimbyTheSillyGoose 13 дней назад

i subbed

@dealnomore 13 дней назад

Sounds like he went on a bender

@Stratman1512 16 дней назад

We were better off without Hoover

@kensheets9714 12 дней назад

Terrell owens anyone…:

@Stratman1512 16 дней назад

NOT TONY Franklyn -Paul ‘McFadden missed the xtra point who cost us a win against the 10-0 Miami Dolphins-in Miami and the 1 week that lousy Philly O. line was blocking and Wilbert Montgomery went down early in the second quarter with 56 yards on 10 attempts with a long run of only 11 - (for whatever reason, the Eagles offensive line came alive for the first time in a couple years) saying with Montgomery playing all or most of the game, Philly would of devoured Miami that week if the eagles blocked well enough for even 2 of the worst running backs in NFL history ran decent as his fill in’s. As the worst ever back in average per carry with 500+ carries in Michael Haddix at 3.0 career average per carry n the second worst running back in the NFL history Michael Williams had decent games filling in for Montgomery as they got decent holes to run through as Montgomery was finally getting holes to run through as he did in the first quarter (going up 14-0 through the 1st) the Eagles would of blew out Miami. All we had missing that year was an offensive line.(the most important position. And for 5 years straight no team had a worst offensive line ever than the 82 to 86 Eagles, but for some reason that week we had one.

@OfficialJaguarGator9 16 дней назад

Yep you’re right on that one with McFadden my bad! Should’ve double checked that one

@dirkradler532 13 дней назад

Whoover

@Davepool-hs7vr 11 дней назад

Is there anyone who can track down Melvin Hoover?

@Stratman1512 14 дней назад

They keep taking out my long reply to Joey Str. whose all-time favorite Philadelphia Eagles team is 1988, so I’ll put my reply here as a comment instead of a reply. Love the 1988 Eagles-in the last week of the season -Eagles blow out the cowboys 24-7 to clinch a playoff spot and then CBS goes directly to the Giants-Jets game late in 4th and with under a minute left Ken O’Brien throws a TD pass to Al Toon and the Eagles win the NFC East for the first time in 8 years! I remember going ape. Then the Giants had to hope for the 49ers to beat the Rams in the 8 PM game to make the playoffs, “no problem the future Super Bowl champion 49ers won’t lose to the Rams,” and the 49ers lose to the Rams! and the Rams are in Giants are out. Giants don’t even make the playoffs. It was like quadruple sweet, all in one day. 1-Eagles blowout Cowboys 2-Eagles clinch playoffs for first time in 7 years 3-Giants lose to Jets 4-Eagles clinch division. 5-Rams beat 49ers and Giants are left sucking there thumbs till next season. Wow that was to much seratonin build up for any Eagles Fan on 1 day.

@Longbomber 9 дней назад

Then the playoffs started and the Eagles lost

@Stratman1512 9 дней назад

@@Longbomber another freakin cowboy fan or Giants either way to bad the Eagles have easily been the kings of the NFC East easily as far as far as total wins, wins total playoff wins, and NFC East titles in the 21st-century. There’s only a couple other teams who have more wins in the NFLsince the advent of 16 game season 1978 then the Eagles -so su3k on that- awww poor loser 😤

@oldmusclecars9419 3 дня назад

Why the hell are you making a video about a guy that not only does nobody remember now but nobody heard of or gave a damn about then?

@jmcclain8237 16 дней назад

Maybe he had dain bramage.

@Jason_Maier 16 дней назад

But was Norman Braman as cheap/bad as Hugh Culverhouse, Bill Bidwell or Billy Sullivan?

@CTubeMan 16 дней назад

Or Mike Brown for that matter?

@damien5138 15 дней назад

Yes he was

@BillS-f6v 7 дней назад

Worse! Let Reggie white walk

@LuisRiestra-f2q 13 дней назад

You Seen on Twitter how In Philadelphia they put a Billboard of Kamala Harris wearing an Eagles Helmet. And it says Official Candidate Of The Philadelphia Eagles

@OfficialJaguarGator9 13 дней назад

Yep. Lawsuits galore coming from that since the Eagles did not put that message out

@Mark-wo9yt 13 дней назад

That's the hallmark of the Biden/Harris administration: lies and deception. Harris wouldn't know what a football was is she was sitting on one - pointy end first. Anyone who votes for her should ask themselves WHY this administration lies pathologically. They lied about Biden being a vegetable, lied about inflation, lied about the border, etc. They put on not one but THREE sham trials in an attempt to JAIL their top political opponent. THAT, is right out of the fascism 101 handbook

@chiapets2594 14 дней назад

GIANTS BEST TEAM IN HISTORY GOATED AND THE THE NYG

@Mark-wo9yt 13 дней назад

OK...I get it, not much to write about - season hasn't started, holdouts have been settled, couple trades, cuts & signings, pretty boring stuff, but I don't really agree with lambasting this guy. It's the story about a below average BACKUP WR w/ Philly who verbally agreed to a deal then changed his mind. This is not a rare occurrence. Josh McDaniel VERBALLY agreed to a deal to coach Indy several years ago - Indy publicly announced their new head coach (to stick it to NE as quickly as possible). NE made a counter offer and Indy was out. Did Indy pursue the matter legally? No - binding on oral agreements depends on the jurisdiction and are near impossible to prove in court...therefore rarely pursued. Did that ruin his career? No, if anything, it helped it. Hoover, his agent and the team came to some type of agreement, HOWEVER, Hoover wasn't thrilled with the deal he felt he HAD to sign. So, after mulling it over, he changed his mind. So what? He was within his rights since nothing had been signed. You can debate whether or not this was a dumb decision BUT ONLY Hoover can answer that. It's possible he felt the $$ was too low, probably not guaranteed and was told he'd have to fight to make the team. Under the circumstances, he may have felt WR3 or WR4 (at best) on a bad team and getting worse wasn't worth the work and effort. If you don't LOVE football, get out. This is not a lesson in 'if you make an oral agreement, stick with it or your career is OVER. It's a lesson in who's important and who's not in the NFL. He was cut and never played again for ONE REASON: he wasn't good enough. If he was a legit WR1 or WR2 I guarantee he'd have gotten picked up immediately - or been traded. A few years back (according to a Chief insider) Tyreek Hill and KC supposedly arrived at a verbal agreement and Hill was scheduled to sign the extension the following week. THEN Devante Adams was traded to the Raiders - who sign him an outrageous mega contract - and the contract Hill was going to sign in KC was no longer enough and ripped up. What was his punishment? Traded to Miami for a boat load of picks and given a massive mega-deal by Miami similar to Adams contact.