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'The Ecology of Freedom' by Murray Bookchin | Book Discourse

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What is the nature of freedom? How does freedom operate? What enables freedom? How are we free? Freedom is not simply an act of the individual. Rather freedom is the result of individual action working interdependently with other free acting individuals. It is this interdependence that determines the degree of freedom. In this way, freedom is ecology. Let's discuss.
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Комментарии : 19

@Kentrosauruses 6 месяцев назад

Been watching your channel for many years now. Your analyses are honestly a big influence on me. Only issue is that you keep making me want to add more books to my impossibly long reading list!

@steven5054 10 месяцев назад

"Reenchanting Humanity" is a good read of his also.

@obscurer1898 10 месяцев назад

as an anarchist i really like your videos about anarchism, i hope you read the black anarchist reader or errico malatesta or blessed is the flame some day. or i would be curious to hear your thoughts on desert, but to be honest ive been too depressed about climate change lately to read it.

@imortalones Год назад

Nature - animals trees forests swamps might include a hut VS City - skyscraper trains business sueeage might include a park

@imortalones Год назад

Nature obviously lost Darwin kinda brings back nature, against stupid religion.

@theblackponderer Год назад

But city is nature and nature is city. Think about city parks. The city I live in contains a public forest. Think of the cities that animals create, such as termite mounds, bee hives, and ant hills. Forests have vast interconnected and interdependent communications and exchange of resources, chemistry, and physiology that could be interpreted as a living city.

@elishabarkley7625 10 месяцев назад

Honestly, if all somebody gets out of reading the book is a trumpet call for anarchism, they didnt read; they skimmed. He isnt advocating for anarchy or for any one specific form of societal organization, all he is doing is pointing out how hierarchical power structures have gradually dehumanized us over time and locked us out of possibilities, how capitalism has been instrumental in that, and how many forms of administration (including religion) have all been bent to the will of this chain reaction specifically because most remain unaware of it. Not saying the maker of the video did that, just responding to stuff i hear a lot about the book.

@theblackponderer 10 месяцев назад

But what you're saying the author is pointing out are the exact same things anarchism points out. Anarchism is against hierarchical power structures because of its dehumanizing effect. Anarchism is anti-capitalist because capitalism depends on hierarchical power structures. And anarchism pushes for awareness of this reality because of the belief that institutions (like religion) perpetuate such dehumanization. Although Bookchin might not be explicitly labeling what he's promoting as anarchism, what he is indeed promoting follows anarchist philosophy quite closely.

@elishabarkley7625 10 месяцев назад

@@theblackponderer Buber has a lot to say about the damage that certain labels do to useful ideas. Utopianism and anarchism are such labels. I think they hobble whatever they're attached to, be that right or be it wrong

@theblackponderer 10 месяцев назад

@@elishabarkley7625 I tend to disagree with that. I find labels quite useful when making distinctions about complex topics. One just needs to be responsible and diligent about the labels. Just gotta recognize that language evolves over time, but there's a logic to that evolution. A label shouldn't be static and unchangeable, but the label should be restricted to a domain of meaning that makes sense. How do you know what makes sense? That's where the responsibility and diligence of language use comes in.

@elishabarkley7625 10 месяцев назад

@theblackponderer fair enough. Some labels work better than others but I hear you.

@kangthumper247 Год назад

It’s just something about anarchy that doesn’t feel right. The Unabomber kind of ruined it for me

@theblackponderer Год назад

So a few bad apples spoil the bunch?

@coololi07 Год назад

unabomber never called himself an anarchist and spent his time condemming most anarchists. But sure

@kangthumper247 Год назад

@@coololi07Was that before he was convicted or afterwards (condemnation of anarchist)?

@kangthumper247 Год назад

“What kind of freedom does one have if one can use it only as someone else prescribes?”. We should discuss anarchy

@kangthumper247 Год назад

@@benjones934ok, so he was a ecoterrorist. IMO those ideas still line up. Maybe I’m wrong. Doesn’t change how I feel about anarchism. I believe it doesn’t help mankind in any fashion.