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The Economic Advantage of Nuclear Energy  

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@Croz89
@Croz89 Год назад
The economics of nuclear require a massive upfront investment, but once it's built and running and that investment has been fully recouped, it's a money making machine because of the sheer amount of energy one reactor can produce in a year. Problem is that investments can take 10-15 years to see a return, so it requires patient investors and a stable market.
@AsobiMedio
@AsobiMedio Год назад
Which is why its proliferation shouldn't be in the hand of private enterprises. It should be a heavily regulated public asset. Governments don't have to worry about making the quarterly report look good...Correction, *competent* governments don't have to worry about short-term optics. They can focus on long-term benefits. Energy production, more specifically clean energy production, is a growing need that has to be addressed quickly. We can't afford to wait for some random billionaire to decide that they want to dip their toes into nuclear energy.
@GearZNet
@GearZNet Год назад
@@AsobiMedio Funny enough governments are blocking neclear proliferation while the private sector is actively seeking to revitalize nuclear energy. Look into Flibe energy and Thorium reactors. 🤣 Stop bling billionaires for idiot environmentalist who promoted the solar panel and wind energy farce.
@0witw047
@0witw047 Год назад
Like anything though, nuclear powerplants have to be maintained and eventually replaced. Over their lifetime, they still cost around 3-5x more than other green alternatives. It's not just a case of requiring patient investors, you get less energy for the same amount of money spent compared to if you just built renewables.
@PiyushSinghSisodia-om8nx
@PiyushSinghSisodia-om8nx Год назад
​@@0witw047 You are forgetting about the battery cost.
@Croz89
@Croz89 Год назад
@@0witw047 Existing nuclear power, which has already been paid off, is quite cost competitive with renewables. If run for long enough, it'll probably make just as good of a return, if not better. Nuclear, however, is in the unfortunate position of getting more expensive to build, and those costs have made it uncompetitive with renewables and gas. However, with the recent rise in gas prices and the fact storage technology is still very expensive, nuclear is becoming more competitive again. If new reactor designs are also able to being costs down, and perhaps there wasn't quite so many expensive planning obstacles, then there's a possibility for a bright future.
@marshallgrey2159
@marshallgrey2159 Год назад
for the love of God, you don't have to loop it it's awkward
@irwainnornossa4605
@irwainnornossa4605 Год назад
Noooo, you don't get it, it's cool. :-D …because everyone does it. Yeah, it's stupid.
@RM-el3gw
@RM-el3gw Год назад
yeah now everyone has to loop it, no matter how forced it seems.
@someguy8955
@someguy8955 Год назад
Yes. I don't know how it started but it feels like in one month so many channels started doing it
@NattyLifeYT
@NattyLifeYT Год назад
That watch time tho
@thewiirocks
@thewiirocks Год назад
This is their cringiest loop yet. More and more people agree that... nuclear is controversial?!? Da fudge is that supposed to mean?
@palerider2132
@palerider2132 Год назад
"Noooo, nuclear is bad!!!" *this message was sponsored by big oil*
@blackjew6827
@blackjew6827 Год назад
Big green*
@lethanhminh8001
@lethanhminh8001 Год назад
@@blackjew6827 big green is accompanied by big coal tho
@0witw047
@0witw047 Год назад
Nuclear is just economically inefficient, there's no conspiracy to suppress it.
@LuziFearon
@LuziFearon Год назад
Don't tell me you don't know how rods are made. I give you a hint, its very dirty.
@drugoviic
@drugoviic Год назад
Chernobyl
@michaelburrell4685
@michaelburrell4685 Год назад
“Nukuler energy.” - George Bush
@superspeederbooster
@superspeederbooster Год назад
Idiots can't even speak their own language...
@richardbrady1849
@richardbrady1849 Год назад
Thank you for this I was going to say something
@Silent002
@Silent002 Год назад
If you look it up in a dictionary, you'll find noo-klee-er and noo-kyuh-ler (as well as the prefix "nyuu-") are correct.
@JustForUs
@JustForUs Год назад
Homer Simpson agrees ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Nth4RqqmQZ4.html
@jordanwalsh1691
@jordanwalsh1691 Год назад
@@Silent002 Can I ask which dictionary you consulted? From what I found noo-kyuh-ler is in Merriam Webster only as a "Nonstandard" pronunciation, while Oxford, Cambridge, and Collins dictionaries give noo-klee-er as the only pronunciation.
@Absynnian
@Absynnian Год назад
I'm glad that it seems like the majority opinion is shifting in regards to nuclear. It's really our only viable option in the near future, and it's been held back heavily by people not understanding that fact.
@judelarkin2883
@judelarkin2883 Год назад
To just say people don’t like nuclear because of nuclear bombs is misleading. Nuclear accidents have happened and will continue to happen just like accidents happen in every other industry. The difference is, nuclear accident are incredibly difficult to contain. Nuclear energy produces waste that is more toxic than anything humanity has produced. There is no perfect solution to dealing with that waste. Denying those facts is just as ignorant as denying climate change.
@shiuay6165
@shiuay6165 Год назад
I don't think you've seen enough of the plethora of chemicals humanity has produced ahah...
@judelarkin2883
@judelarkin2883 Год назад
@@shiuay6165 I have. Take a look at how Finland is disposing of nuclear waste and let me know what other substance has an equivalent disposal requirement.
@shiuay6165
@shiuay6165 Год назад
@@judelarkin2883 That's it, precisely ! Nuclear waste is the most carefully handled waste in the world. While chemical waste pollution and accidents have been legion, let me know the day nuclear waste will kill someone from behind 7 sealed containers and 1 km underground. Common chemicals such as carbon monoxyde, methane or soots are much more efficient as insidious killer, while handled a lot less carefully, with daily domestic accidents, not even talking about chemical plant accidents. Nuclear waste is a false problem. Btw, nuclear accidents have killed around 1000 times less people than... coal alone. Even solar and hydroelectricity have killed more people, so no, nuclear accidents aren't "incredibly difficult to contain", the only serious catastrophy was tchernobyl and was due to human error, while the 1975's china dam break alone killed a number of people orders of magnitude above tchernobyl's accident, the only difference is that the average person arguably isn't as afraid of water as they are about radioactivity. Any person that looked seriously into the numbers knows that nuclear is the safest form of energy production.
@shiuay6165
@shiuay6165 Год назад
@@judelarkin2883 Seriously, look at the 2020 Beirut explosion and let me know the day nuclear waste will be able to blast more than 200 people in an instant like that. The thing that exploded was as common as... a fertilizer. Ammonium nitrate to be precise. It also isn't the only time it happened in history of course, it is in fact quite common for these accidents to happen.
@fcv1967
@fcv1967 Год назад
Ever heard of Radaway?
@MubashirullahD
@MubashirullahD Год назад
agree that shorts are not good enough
@mor3nk74
@mor3nk74 Год назад
More and more people are beginning to agree that _____ _____ ____
@loganwolfram4216
@loganwolfram4216 Год назад
that Logan is a tremendously charming and handsome individual and should be given the last slice.
@HelenLannister
@HelenLannister Год назад
That war… war never changes.
@kabyzdoch
@kabyzdoch Год назад
that useless low-effort content, presented in this shorts, is just wasting our screen real estate and shouldn't even exist
@kennethmoses4900
@kennethmoses4900 Год назад
Bush did 9/11
@squa_81
@squa_81 Год назад
Where is the economic part of this short?!?
@ruelparent5423
@ruelparent5423 Год назад
Are beginning to agree ….. nice ending. Hate to actually have a conclusion drawn in a short
@GillumTyler
@GillumTyler Год назад
Nu-clear not nuk-yah-lur
@wxfield
@wxfield Год назад
That word and "SAM-which" can drive you nuts!
@irwainnornossa4605
@irwainnornossa4605 Год назад
@@wxfield SAM-which? So…which surface to air missile? :-D
@PeterNjeim
@PeterNjeim Год назад
Actually language can change, and "nucular" is considered a non-standard pronunciation, used even by those working with nuclear energy. The Wikipedia article (titled "Nucular") gives a nice compilation of information related to this pronunciation, including why people started pronouncing it this way.
@verylongname8161
@verylongname8161 Год назад
The first pic is a gas turbine plant in bursa, turkey not a nuclear plant
@LeanAndMean44
@LeanAndMean44 Год назад
True. It also looks more like a gas plant now that I think about it. The pipes, I wouldn’t know what the pies would have to do there otherwise.
@mor3nk74
@mor3nk74 Год назад
ben benzetemedim bis'in soğutma kuleleri metalden ve CCGT mavi ve 4 tane bacası var
@penguinking4830
@penguinking4830 Год назад
The US like Germany is early retiring nuclear plants at a time when we need all the clean energy we can get. It is insane.
@good2goskee
@good2goskee Год назад
THORIUM REACTORS can provide the energy output, but the thorium waste does NOT produce a material that can be weaponized.... We should be using THORIUM reactors
@scallywag1716
@scallywag1716 Год назад
We need more nuclear!
@lajya01
@lajya01 Год назад
Computers and power transmission technologies (like HVDC) are way better than it was 50 yrs ago. New reactors with minimum staff and away from population centers is now possible and deserves another chance.
@aidanquinn2282
@aidanquinn2282 Год назад
Fossil fuels or green energy, pick one! Can't sit on the fence with a smart solution. The public picks clear sides and they just don't like nuclear. I wish more ppl considered it as an option.
@Sw4lley
@Sw4lley Год назад
As far as costs are concerned, the fissure tech is vastly out classed with solar/wind and water as energy source. If we start talking fusion, there we might see a good solution. But it remains to be seen.
@zero3556
@zero3556 Год назад
Whilst agreeing with you that nuclear power is the most efficient, saying that the fear of nuclear weapons is the public reasoning against it, is imo a straw man argument since most people I've talked with about this have a completely different concern: we still haven't found a way to reliably get rid of the waste and natural human traits like corruption or negligence could have (and already had) devestating effects when handling that waste. It's like unpacking Christmas gifts in your room without even owning a trash can and kicking the paper around your room for thousands of years whilst it harms you.
@lukacsnemeth1652
@lukacsnemeth1652 Год назад
It has been solved, look up Onkalo.
@Roxor128
@Roxor128 Год назад
Your video is borked! The ending is cut off.
@335449286
@335449286 Год назад
You guys should just make these shorts into a video
@Notpies
@Notpies 3 месяца назад
I think people always forget that nuclear weapons can be turned into nuclear power plants
@gabrielfetrat6560
@gabrielfetrat6560 Год назад
I love y'alls work but I can't with the "new-q-ler."
@PeterNjeim
@PeterNjeim Год назад
Actually language can change, and "nucular" is considered a non-standard pronunciation, used even by those working with nuclear energy. The Wikipedia article (titled "Nucular") gives a nice compilation of information related to this pronunciation, including why people started pronouncing it this way.
@mattc9409
@mattc9409 Год назад
Rest of the video ?
@Redditor6079
@Redditor6079 Год назад
Nuclear is is not as capable of adjusting to rapid increases in power demand as coal is so while it may be cleaner, we're not at a point where we can completely replace coal.
@Nill757
@Nill757 Год назад
Nuclear ramps great if built to do so, faster than coal.
@glassman304
@glassman304 Год назад
If I project out population growth, add in growing demand, then look at max output from solar (wind, tide and cell) and consider depletion of oil, gas and coal I always get the same results. We need nuclear. There is no choice (just delay). Because of all the negative issues that people have listed, maybe it is time for some major rethinking, major research. Japan is moving forward with a decentralized approach. There have been breakthroughs in fusion research. Prioritize the environment and de- incentivize shortcuts a solution for clean energy may become a reality.
@Sw4lley
@Sw4lley Год назад
That’s just not true…solar on each house could power most of our needs. Especially if companies start building tech that improves in efficiency instead of just needing more juice. Longer lasting tech will vastly reduce the need to produce new products, which will cut the need of energy too. And just so you know. Population is shrinking, not growing in most countries and if the countries that still grow get industrialized, these will shrink too.
@patrickiamonfire965
@patrickiamonfire965 Год назад
It can actually produce far more energy depending on the method and resource used. For example Uranium can last for a decade or two but Plutonium can last way longer since it’s a by product of Uranium and is far more energy dense.
@katlicks
@katlicks Год назад
I agree and everything, but this short could have taken a few more minutes in the oven to finish baking. And it's not really suitable for a short, it needs at least double or triple the time if you want a pithy, short and digestible statement without going too bare, this left out the economics and just kinda described what it does and why people get polarized about it.
@JamesBond-ny8bq
@JamesBond-ny8bq Год назад
NUCULAR
@PeterNjeim
@PeterNjeim Год назад
Actually language can change, and "nucular" is considered a non-standard pronunciation, used even by those working with nuclear energy. The Wikipedia article (titled "Nucular") gives a nice compilation of information related to this pronunciation, including why people started pronouncing it this way.
@ChaoticNeutralMatt
@ChaoticNeutralMatt Год назад
Not a great loop. Overall, it's under utilized but there are significant costs to account for
@sasi5841
@sasi5841 Год назад
*nu-clear not nu-key-lar*
@PeterNjeim
@PeterNjeim Год назад
Actually language can change, and "nucular" is considered a non-standard pronunciation, used even by those working with nuclear energy. The Wikipedia article (titled "Nucular") gives a nice compilation of information related to this pronunciation, including why people started pronouncing it this way.
@October-TE
@October-TE Год назад
​@@PeterNjeimbruh
@nellyfabulous
@nellyfabulous Год назад
Fusion ha!
@mikestephens
@mikestephens Год назад
Sure that's one reason but another must be the huge upfront cost of building a plant Perhaps you should do another video comparing building and running a nuclear plant vs coal vs solar vs wind. I imagine cost must be a factor.
@hydromic2518
@hydromic2518 Год назад
The upfront cost is the problem but after that you will get your investment back since most plants can last up to 50 years
@ronmaximilian6953
@ronmaximilian6953 Год назад
Thorium
@ares106
@ares106 Год назад
2023 and everyone says NuCular now :(
@fcv1967
@fcv1967 Год назад
I think we need some more pawwsitive energy. Mmmkay
@thewondersock3818
@thewondersock3818 Год назад
"But in recent years more and more people are beginning to agree that-" (Yeah it's supposed to loop)
@bl00by_
@bl00by_ Год назад
Nuclear energy is something we gotta keep or even expand on aslong as we don't have access to fusion energy. It creates alot of energy with not alot of affort and it doesn't create CO2, while also being pretty safe especially with todays technology. The only problem we have is that we need to find a spot where we can storage the nuclear waste. Something we could do is making underground storages where we isolate the walls so the radiation doesn't hit the surface.
@0witw047
@0witw047 Год назад
What do you mean "not a lot of effort"? The capital costs are insanely high, to the point where over their lifetime, you get less energy at higher cost compared to alternative energy sources.
@eastcorkcheeses6448
@eastcorkcheeses6448 Год назад
By the time you've built the station , and upgraded the grid , and all up front it's a lot of lot of money,so add the intrest , if you're lucky the plant will run for 40 years .. but that's going to take another few billion in upgrades ... The fuel and running costs while low aren't insignificant , but its intrest rates that kill it
@jawadarif5676
@jawadarif5676 Год назад
There 2 ssue with nuclear power One is nuclear waste which last over 200 year Nuclear melt down we seen it with Chernobyl and in Japan.
@Nill757
@Nill757 Год назад
Light water commercial reactors never killed anybody anywhere including Japan. Compare that record (and spent fuel) w any other source.
@oakariliam8086
@oakariliam8086 Год назад
ITS NUCLEAR NOT NUCULAR
@kkkk25yearsago79
@kkkk25yearsago79 Год назад
As my country have no Natural barriers like mountains or forest from invasion and our neighbours are semi Facist so Many in our country believes that we can put it at our Border it will give energy and a buffer from invasion
@VarshaRajput2717
@VarshaRajput2717 Год назад
Which country?? East Asia or south asia side???
@jonathanbelmares8241
@jonathanbelmares8241 Год назад
If it was Russia then it really doesnt. They were striking Ukraine nuclear power plants
@XLoaferY
@XLoaferY Год назад
"without the harmful biproducts". Yeah, that's why nuclear waste is so easy to handle...
@leobibi123
@leobibi123 Год назад
Yes it is.
@XLoaferY
@XLoaferY Год назад
@@leobibi123 excellent, tell me where there is long term storage please?
@October-TE
@October-TE Год назад
​@@XLoaferYunderground, secured in strong cells designed to last hundreds of years
@Nill757
@Nill757 Год назад
Easy to bottle up in a can, all of it and keep it there. What else can make that claim, without dumping billions of tons of emissions in the sky or in the water or in landfills.
@facingup1624
@facingup1624 Год назад
Find someone who can pronounce words correctly.
@PeterNjeim
@PeterNjeim Год назад
Actually language can change, and "nucular" is considered a non-standard pronunciation, used even by those working with nuclear energy. The Wikipedia article (titled "Nucular") gives a nice compilation of information related to this pronunciation, including why people started pronouncing it this way.
@adamkun85
@adamkun85 Год назад
Why do English speakers pronounce Nuclear "Nu-Cu-Lear"?
@NattyLifeYT
@NattyLifeYT Год назад
Only some Americans do
@LiamVsTheWorld2011
@LiamVsTheWorld2011 Год назад
Never ask an economist to pronounce words properly. Heh. “Nu-kue-lahr”.
@PeterNjeim
@PeterNjeim Год назад
Actually language can change, and "nucular" is considered a non-standard pronunciation, used even by those working with nuclear energy. The Wikipedia article (titled "Nucular") gives a nice compilation of information related to this pronunciation, including why people started pronouncing it this way.
@abarbar06
@abarbar06 Год назад
It's pronounced "nuclear" not "nucyuler"
@slowmoe1964
@slowmoe1964 Год назад
Nu Cle Ar energy is polarizing yoo
@PeterNjeim
@PeterNjeim Год назад
Actually language can change, and "nucular" is considered a non-standard pronunciation, used even by those working with nuclear energy. The Wikipedia article (titled "Nucular") gives a nice compilation of information related to this pronunciation, including why people started pronouncing it this way.
@slowmoe1964
@slowmoe1964 Год назад
@@PeterNjeim yasd. Est os2 horm longrge chingas. Translation Yes this is exactly how language changes. But it helps if you have a translation . And also if you try to pronounce (and spell) words properly.
@JamielDeAbrew
@JamielDeAbrew Год назад
Please stop trying to make the script loop. It’s so tacky.
@jan-lukas
@jan-lukas Год назад
The problem is: the myth that nuclear reactors are a big money making machine and just run without making problems is only true, if they're maintained correctly, which costs a LOT of money, and can lead to funny situations where Germany (no more nuclear power starting sometime this year) exports electricity to France (mostly nuclear power), even though it usually is the other way round. Also there's the problem of relying on other countries to sell the uranium, at least in Europe, which could make the entirety of the EU dependent on other countries like Russia. Then there is the problems that mining, manufacturing and disposing of the radioactive material brings. There is no safe place to store stuff for hundreds of thousands of years, but our reactors still produce waste that will be highly radioactive for that amount of time. And then last comes the risk of Tschernobyl or Fukushima. First, your reactor cannot be in a: flooding zone, earthquake zone, near volcanoes, or Fukushima like accidents can repeat themselves, and then you need to have a government or similar agency that constantly supervises the safe operation of the power plants without hiding any bad practices or similar. Accidents might be getting less likely, but at some point we will forget the lessons we learned from Tschernobyl, and will repeat the mistakes. That's the day when a single nuclear reactor could make entire European countries uninhabitable. Nuclear power is admittedly much better than coal and oil, but when compared to even cheaper green energies that don't pollute the environment nearly as much as nuclear power and that can't suddenly destroy vast landscapes, nuclear power needs to be stopped. I am fully for stopping coal and oil first, if still applicable (looking at you Germany), but then nuclear comes next
@Nill757
@Nill757 Год назад
Mostly made up. Long existing, well maintained reactors make lots of money unless subsidized power undercut them.
@jiminibops
@jiminibops Год назад
Thorium is better
@leobibi123
@leobibi123 Год назад
Depends. Thorium is harder to handle during operation and so more prompt to accidents.
@michaelsmith4904
@michaelsmith4904 Год назад
Agred that what?..
@Will140f
@Will140f Год назад
Nucular energy might be polarizing but how about nuclear energy?
@PeterNjeim
@PeterNjeim Год назад
Actually language can change, and "nucular" is considered a non-standard pronunciation, used even by those working with nuclear energy. The Wikipedia article (titled "Nucular") gives a nice compilation of information related to this pronunciation, including why people started pronouncing it this way.
@Will140f
@Will140f Год назад
@@PeterNjeim I know that language can change, I have a degree in linguistics. considered by whom? does any dictionary record that usage? Also it was a joke
@PeterNjeim
@PeterNjeim Год назад
@@Will140f why engage in asynchronous communication with me? If we're going to have weeks between our messages, I'd imagine it would be beneficial for your curiosity to read the article I mentioned previously. Not sure why you felt it necessary to claim your comment was a joke, gives the impression that you believe jokes are a shield against productive discussion. Usually, when someone makes a joke on RU-vid, there's hyperbole or other inaccuracies to make the joke funny. In these cases, someone like me will reply, pointing out the hyperbole in case people mistakenly actually believe the joke verbatim. There's nothing wrong with that, and in fact it usually starts a healthy discussion. However there is usually always that person who snarkily responds, 10 replies down, that "it was a joke", "chill out", etc. They usually get 0 likes and are ignored. How about we don't accuse (or imply) people of not understanding jokes and enjoy the fact that truthful information is being shared, without any passive aggressive attitude.
@Rager_U
@Rager_U Год назад
Please go back and rethink what you're doing to this channel. These shorts are almost all terribly scripted and cutting off mid-sentence. This one is truly awful. I support nuclear energy as a bridge between less reliable renewables and whatever the future holds. However, to say that most opposition to nuclear energy was ever based on its relationship to bombs is disingenuous at best.
@xuantran3900
@xuantran3900 Год назад
Why can't people correctly pronounce "nuclear"?
@Bob_Lob_Law
@Bob_Lob_Law Год назад
Idk, but it's irritating.
@PeterNjeim
@PeterNjeim Год назад
Actually language can change, and "nucular" is considered a non-standard pronunciation, used even by those working with nuclear energy. The Wikipedia article (titled "Nucular") gives a nice compilation of information related to this pronunciation, including why people started pronouncing it this way.
@xuantran3900
@xuantran3900 Год назад
@@PeterNjeim Well then. I guess I'll stop correcting people when they say PROLLY instead of PROBABLY. We should start saying NUCULEAS, too.
@mattr9852
@mattr9852 Год назад
I'm starting to really hate these videos that end with an incomplete sentence. So while I agree with everything you said but I hate how you said it. Thumbs down.
@adamdavies6248
@adamdavies6248 Год назад
Shame about the huge amount of carbon emissions involved in the mining and refining of reactor grade uranium eh!?
@leobibi123
@leobibi123 Год назад
That's something factored in what's called a "life cycle analysis". Worldwide, nuclear fares just as well as wind and about 3-4 times better than solar.
@whatwhat9519
@whatwhat9519 Год назад
But it also have it own set of harmful byproducts but we don't let it float away in the wind
@lethanhminh8001
@lethanhminh8001 Год назад
Lol what byproducts float away in the wind?
@lethanhminh8001
@lethanhminh8001 Год назад
You know it's just water vapor right?
@GrandCatapult
@GrandCatapult Год назад
And when, pray, does this short get to the economics?
@nikanj
@nikanj Год назад
All the concerns about nuclear waste, nuclear proliferation, and upfront investment are nothing compared to the single biggest drawback of nuclear energy. There is not nearly enough fissile material in the world to meet our ongoing energy needs.
@leobibi123
@leobibi123 Год назад
There is for at least 80 years based only on uranium-235. Other fuel type exists which would allow for a longer operation.
@Nill757
@Nill757 Год назад
“Nit nearly enough” Breeder reactors: 800 years Non breeders w U in seawater:3000yrs Breeders mined U and Thorium: 1600 yrs Breeders mined U and Thorium and U in seawater: 1/2 million years
@adbogo
@adbogo Год назад
And leave the radioactive mess for our descendants to clean up? I see why you think it is so cheap. In fact it is the most expensive way of genereating electricity.
@Nill757
@Nill757 Год назад
What mess? The earth has been radioactive since the beginning. Wind turbine blades dumped into landfills by the million ton though, that’s new. And, solar and wind always need that gas plant hiding behind the curtain, watt for watt. No need to clean up the billions of tons of real “mess” dumped in the sky I see.
@Nill757
@Nill757 Год назад
“Most expensive” So you say. IEA says: “…. electricity from the long-term operation of nuclear power plants constitutes the least cost option for low-carbon generation….” “…Nuclear thus remains the dispatchable low-carbon technology with the lowest expected costs in 2025. Only large hydro reservoirs can provide a similar contribution at comparable costs but remain highly dependent on the natural endowments of individual countries. Compared to fossil fuel-based generation, nuclear plants are expected to be more affordable than coal-fired plants. …. Electricity produced from nuclear long-term operation (LTO) by lifetime extension is highly competitive and remains not only the least cost option for low-carbon generation - when compared to building new power plants - but for all power generation across the board.”
@adbogo
@adbogo Год назад
@@Nill757 you ignore the radioactive pollution for ages to come. It's immoral and even criminal to leave that for our descendants to clean up.
@Nill757
@Nill757 Год назад
@@adbogo Who do you think you’re fooling w this “moral” accusation about spent fuel which has never hurt anyone, anywhere, ever? There’s a trillion tons of fossil waste tossed into the air by modern society. You can’t be bothered by any assessment of harm vs harm. No, you present your personal obsession as a moral issue with no analysis, which is transparently about your self importance. Sorry, not interested.
@adbogo
@adbogo Год назад
@@Nill757 Your denial is pathetic. Spent nuclear fuel has hurt lots of people and will go on doing so for millenia to come.
@eladiomendez8226
@eladiomendez8226 Год назад
Nucular
@PeterNjeim
@PeterNjeim Год назад
Actually language can change, and "nucular" is considered a non-standard pronunciation, used even by those working with nuclear energy. The Wikipedia article (titled "Nucular") gives a nice compilation of information related to this pronunciation, including why people started pronouncing it this way.
@matthewwoods6972
@matthewwoods6972 Год назад
Thorium is the power of the future.
@RandomGuy-nm6bm
@RandomGuy-nm6bm Год назад
It's also one of the most expensive forms of generating energy, a fact which is somehow left out by a RU-vidr which focuses on economics.
@augustoliver2779
@augustoliver2779 Год назад
Nuclear waste is one of the reason why nuclear is not popular and another reason is an accident or potential terrorism act against it. The fallout of a incident lasts for centuries as well as nuclear waste. The uranium has a life cycle and needs to be discarded and replaced. Therefore, nuclear is not a clean alternative. We need to further develop wind and solar as well as fusion energy. Fusion energy is still in the beginning stages and is the most promising for an alternative to nuclear, gas, coal, and oil.
@nates9105
@nates9105 Год назад
This doesnt bring up the cost over runs and delays in construction of a facility
@Nill757
@Nill757 Год назад
Yeah let’s not do that, costs and delays. Didn’t use to happen. So it’s only politics. Knick it off.
@punpun3257
@punpun3257 Год назад
NU CU LAR 💀💀💀
@PeterNjeim
@PeterNjeim Год назад
Actually language can change, and "nucular" is considered a non-standard pronunciation, used even by those working with nuclear energy. The Wikipedia article (titled "Nucular") gives a nice compilation of information related to this pronunciation, including why people started pronouncing it this way.
@wolfgangmuhlbauer2181
@wolfgangmuhlbauer2181 Год назад
Nuclear energy is 3x as expensive as renewables (In Germany at least as we import uranium, what most countries do). So you might want to mention that in the video to not spread misinformatiln as i really like your channel and videos usually
@LENZ5369
@LENZ5369 Год назад
It also more expensive than coal and Russian gas/oil... Talk is cheap when you end up emitting MORE carbon and are opening up more coal mines. For many people 'the climate crisis/emergency/disaster' suddenly stops being a 'crisis/emergency/disaster' when there is a cost to their wallet or to their ideological based biases.
@christianfaux736
@christianfaux736 Год назад
Yeah, its more expensive to build, but even importing uranium or thorium can't be a greater cost than importing oil from RUSSIA, especially with the war in Ukraine complicating things. Besides most of the cost of nuclear is in the upfront investment, long term it pays for itself many times over. Nuclear power is a rare instance of a win-win. Its cost effective (in the long run) and its good for the environment.
@wolfgangmuhlbauer2181
@wolfgangmuhlbauer2181 Год назад
That's why we buy LNG gas. Simply not true. Without subsidies from the government nuclear is uneconomic over and over. Check your ressources
@0witw047
@0witw047 Год назад
@@christianfaux736 This is objectively untrue. Their LCOE (lifetime cost of energy) is higher than pretty much any other source of energy. They're not cheaper, you can't just dismiss upfront costs.
@LENZ5369
@LENZ5369 Год назад
@@0witw047 Actually what you just said is objectively untrue. It's easy producing cheap electricity when you don't have to pay for the effects of climate change or the health costs of pollution -look up 'externalized costs'. Nuclear power plants pay for the handling of their waste, even their own decommission and clean up....do you think 'for profit' companies would running nuclear if they couldn't make money?
@peace8373
@peace8373 Год назад
No insurance necessary, no nuclear disposal ready, no fund for decommission, but if it blows, It is the people that suffer, some may even die. Go ask the Japonaise, they believed in their nuclear energy.
@leobibi123
@leobibi123 Год назад
They have been consistantly restarting their nuclear power plant so ... As a sidenote, the coal plant that have followed the temporary nuclear shutdown in Japan are responsible for more death than those associated with Fukushima.
@timfulwell8472
@timfulwell8472 Год назад
The new nuclear energy plant at Hinkley in the uk is charging three times as much as fossil fuels for its energy for the whole of its lifetime. And that’s without clearing up the nuclear muck it creates. The uk government is going to pick that bill up. It’s horrendously expensive, don’t do it.
@Nill757
@Nill757 Год назад
No muck, not that expensive, you’re a hack
@luvmyh0nda
@luvmyh0nda Год назад
Nuclear - new-cle-er, not nuke-u-ler
@PeterNjeim
@PeterNjeim Год назад
Actually language can change, and "nucular" is considered a non-standard pronunciation, used even by those working with nuclear energy. The Wikipedia article (titled "Nucular") gives a nice compilation of information related to this pronunciation, including why people started pronouncing it this way.
@luvmyh0nda
@luvmyh0nda Год назад
@@PeterNjeim actually, of that same article, "When used for nuclear, this pronunciation is proscribed"
@PeterNjeim
@PeterNjeim Год назад
@@luvmyh0nda that's the lede, please read the rest before commenting on it. It's not good faith to comment on articles before reading it in its entirety
@luvmyh0nda
@luvmyh0nda Год назад
@@PeterNjeim Actually, irregardless of the newspeak to which we've become accustomed, the pronounciation is often received as low brow.
@Astarath
@Astarath Год назад
nukular, lisa. it's pronounced, nuke-yoo-lar
@PeterNjeim
@PeterNjeim Год назад
Actually language can change, and "nucular" is considered a non-standard pronunciation, used even by those working with nuclear energy. The Wikipedia article (titled "Nucular") gives a nice compilation of information related to this pronunciation, including why people started pronouncing it this way.
@amalgeorge6877
@amalgeorge6877 Год назад
"nuCular"🤨
@PeterNjeim
@PeterNjeim Год назад
Actually language can change, and "nucular" is considered a non-standard pronunciation, used even by those working with nuclear energy. The Wikipedia article (titled "Nucular") gives a nice compilation of information related to this pronunciation, including why people started pronouncing it this way.
@CryptoRoast_0
@CryptoRoast_0 Год назад
We have a nuclear reactor in the sky and one under our feet. We don't need more.
@Nill757
@Nill757 Год назад
Nobody gets electricity from the “sky”, as you know. Instead miles of machines have to built and and installed covering the ground to collect that electricity, machines that are made from aluminum, silver, copper, refined silicon, steel, rare earth elements. Then, at end of life, large chunks of those machines are dumped in landfill. Maybe give the sky his a rest for awhile.
@markrussell4682
@markrussell4682 Год назад
You are flat out lying about the economics of nuclear power.
@MrTravel4nutin
@MrTravel4nutin Год назад
I think people are smart enough to know that what is currently happening at Fukushima and Chernobyl have nothing to do with bombs.
@ivanThaOoze
@ivanThaOoze Год назад
It's pronounced "Nu-Clear"
@PeterNjeim
@PeterNjeim Год назад
Actually language can change, and "nucular" is considered a non-standard pronunciation, used even by those working with nuclear energy. The Wikipedia article (titled "Nucular") gives a nice compilation of information related to this pronunciation, including why people started pronouncing it this way.
@kaseywahl
@kaseywahl Год назад
New-klee-er. Nukular.
@PeterNjeim
@PeterNjeim Год назад
Actually language can change, and "nucular" is considered a non-standard pronunciation, used even by those working with nuclear energy. The Wikipedia article (titled "Nucular") gives a nice compilation of information related to this pronunciation, including why people started pronouncing it this way.
@gameboss4469
@gameboss4469 Год назад
Four hundredth like 😊
@egal1780
@egal1780 Год назад
We also have renewables!
@Nill757
@Nill757 Год назад
That scale and run without fossil fuel backup? No, we don’t. Nowhere in the world is there grid running 50% solar and wind.
@robfj3414
@robfj3414 Год назад
I wish there was more discussion of how to pronounce ‘nuclear’ properly. It’s not that complicated. “New-klee-ar” Try it!🙄
@PeterNjeim
@PeterNjeim Год назад
Actually language can change, and "nucular" is considered a non-standard pronunciation, used even by those working with nuclear energy. The Wikipedia article (titled "Nucular") gives a nice compilation of information related to this pronunciation, including why people started pronouncing it this way.
@TheMntnG
@TheMntnG Год назад
if it would be economically advantageous, it would be more widespread. but it‘s not really.
@christianfaux736
@christianfaux736 Год назад
It absolutely is in the long run. Its got a higher cost to build but a WAY cheaper cost to run.
@KJ-od8wq
@KJ-od8wq Год назад
@@christianfaux736 There’s too many dangerous elements to it. They’re easy terrorist attacking spots.
@TheMntnG
@TheMntnG Год назад
@@christianfaux736 huge insurance cost though.
@tiberiu_nicolae
@tiberiu_nicolae Год назад
How can I take someone seriously when they can't pronounce the subject
@PeterNjeim
@PeterNjeim Год назад
Actually language can change, and "nucular" is considered a non-standard pronunciation, used even by those working with nuclear energy. The Wikipedia article (titled "Nucular") gives a nice compilation of information related to this pronunciation, including why people started pronouncing it this way.
@akshatrai9007
@akshatrai9007 Год назад
What about nuclear waste
@christianfaux736
@christianfaux736 Год назад
You mean the nuclear waste the world has been safely storing for 70 years? What about it?
@toasterenthusiast6188
@toasterenthusiast6188 Год назад
There are different types of nuclear waste, the vast majority of it isn't dangerous. The type that is though is burried deep underground in a mantle of earth that would keep it there for millions of years without requiring human maintenance.
@TheHiralis
@TheHiralis Год назад
No, Nuclear is the most expensive form of energy in the world. It is not worth it.
@Nill757
@Nill757 Год назад
“Mist expensive” So you say. IEA says: “Nuclear thus remains the dispatchable low-carbon technology with the lowest expected costs in 2025. Only large hydro reservoirs can provide a similar contribution at comparable costs but remain highly dependent on the natural endowments of individual countries. Compared to fossil fuel-based generation, nuclear plants are expected to be more affordable than coal-fired plants. While gas-based combined-cycle gas turbines (CCGTs) are competitive in some regions, their LCOE very much depend on the prices for natural gas and carbon emissions in individual regions. Electricity produced from nuclear long-term operation (LTO) by lifetime extension is highly competitive and remains not only the least cost option for low-carbon generation - when compared to building new power plants - but for *all* power generation across the board.” “All” means including solar and wind.
@afgor1088
@afgor1088 Год назад
It's better, but it's not as profitable. Capitalism is irrational and wasteful
@nicmalugin9287
@nicmalugin9287 Год назад
The Waffle House has found it’s new host
@pillmuncher67
@pillmuncher67 Год назад
Uranium 235 deposits are estimated to last another 100-200 years at current consumption levels. Worldwide, around 5% of electric energy is produced by nuclear power plants. 90% is produced by fossil fuels. If we were to replace half of that with uranium 235, we would have to increase its consumption by a factor of nine, reducing the time horizon to only 11-22 years. That doesn't sound like a reasonable alternative to fossil fuels, does it?
@LENZ5369
@LENZ5369 Год назад
You are way off. Firstly -what you are doing is no different from taking the solar power efficiency figure from 50 years ago and then saying "we would have to cover most of the planet if we used solar". Most of the current nuclear plants are ~50 years old. Secondly -Uranium is fairly abundant, in fact it is more abundant than some elements needed for solar/wind/batteries, you need to understand the difference between 'worth extracting based on current economics' vs 'not existing', there is thousands of years worth in seawater alone. Thirdly -look up 'fuel reprocessing' (only a fraction of fuel is actually used in reactors, it's more profitable to just buy more fuel than it is to increase fuel efficiency) and 'breeder reactors' ('breeds' more fuel as it operates and they can use nuclear 'waste' as fuel). Finally -there are many other fissionable elements than just Uranium; most notably Thorium and Plutonium. If we used modern reactors and made the operators care about fuel efficiency -we could reduce waste to a tiny fraction of what it is now and we would have thousands of years of power; more than enough time to discover/invent something better.
@christianfaux736
@christianfaux736 Год назад
​@@LENZ5369 that's the other thing, I love nuclear, but its ultimately just a stop gap between non-renewables and a permanent, clean, renewable source, like cold fusion. It doesn't NEED to last forever, another 50 years may well be enough.
@pillmuncher67
@pillmuncher67 Год назад
@@LENZ5369 Just look at France and how well their nuclear plants are doing. More than half of them are currently out of commission. What you're saying is that if in a future economy energy will become much more expensive, uranium will be viable again. You see how that cannot be not a serious argument, don't you? Agriculture has become the art of turning oil into food, and if climate change progresses further, less and less land will be usable for food production and it will become increasingly expensive. We could combat that a bit with replacing cars with public transportation and view cars as what they are: luxury items. Tractors and trucks are not. But that will only help so much. Extracting uranium from sea water is a long way from being viable and a quick calculation shows that for a ton of uranium 300 million tons of sea water would have to be processed. That means almost 2x10¹³ tons of sea water would have to be processed to extract the 62,500 tons we're consuming currently per year. That is more than two times the amount of water the eight billion people on this planet drink every year and can' even provide that. And you're talking of increasing uranium consumption. The uranium levels in sea water will also soon sink because of the extraction, making the extraction increasingly difficult and expensive. Also, nuclear plants are already the most expensive widespread way to produce electric energy. Buying uranium only accounts for about 15% of the cost of a nuclear plant over its life time. To say the least, I'm not convinced. If we're talking about thorium and molten salt reactors - yes, that might be a way forward. And we have to reduce our level of energy consumption. I'm 55yo, and man, am I glad I don't have children.
@Nill757
@Nill757 Год назад
@@pillmuncher67 French EDF sabotaged it’s own reactors, with help by Germany via EU. EDF run by many anti nuclear zealots now. Public knowledge they had French nuclear system labeled as a “monopoly”, and started siphoning off the vast nuclear generated revenue which would normally go to general maintenance and went to “alternative” sources of energy like wind, as if France needed to give up a single hectare to wind or solar. Macron recently suggested the action was treasonous to France. French nuclear has had 25 years of great reliability and now suddenly cranks say look it doesn’t work? Please. Seawater with U does not require lifting all the mass or pumping it somewhere like the potable water system. That’s ridiculous. It’s the uranium that needs to move, not the water. The seawater is filtered in place for bulk material, w flow generated by natural current.
@Nill757
@Nill757 Год назад
“last another” Stop playing online miner. There is always a known amount of explored mineral, yet new reserves are always found, dependent on price. Usually w materials like copper, a mild increase in price squashes demand increase so a bit of new mining operation is enough to reach stake prices. With uranium, the fuel cost is a trivial part of total cost, so increased price will stimulate new finds, as it always does w minerals, without squashing demand.
@platin2148
@platin2148 Год назад
That you make yourself hugely dependent on russian companies? Not a advantage. Also it takes to long to build no matter what..
@Nill757
@Nill757 Год назад
“No matter what” Dozens of nuclear plans have been built in 3-4 years. Point Beach WI. So yeah, something matters, most likely politics. Look it up. Running 50+ yrs.
@milkybalance342
@milkybalance342 Год назад
We’re on our way to fusion! Long live Livermore lab :D proud of where I’m from
@john2335
@john2335 Год назад
Nucelar huh 🤣
@PeterNjeim
@PeterNjeim Год назад
Actually language can change, and "nucular" is considered a non-standard pronunciation, used even by those working with nuclear energy. The Wikipedia article (titled "Nucular") gives a nice compilation of information related to this pronunciation, including why people started pronouncing it this way.
@john2335
@john2335 Год назад
@@PeterNjeim language does change - often times when illiterate texan cowboys start ridiculous trends. At this point though, I think hopping on the 'nookular' bandwagon is too early. The fact that some authorities supposedly legitimized this hillbilly speak, doesn't make it sound any less illiterate texan cowboy.
@cockiepoopie9046
@cockiepoopie9046 Год назад
How about we just focus on fusion rn guys
@Nill757
@Nill757 Год назад
There is no commercial fusion, no plan either. You’d care about that if you had to sit in the dark and freeze.
@cockiepoopie9046
@cockiepoopie9046 Год назад
@@Nill757 I’m an eskimo and I live in the artic circle with half a bar of wifi that gets trucked in by a seal on a snow mobile. You don’t know what cold is
@Nill757
@Nill757 Год назад
@@cockiepoopie9046 Same thing. You don’t know what a drastic cut in large modern power consumption means. Your “trucked in” comes from that modern system. I mean, you want my advice on article survival or seal hunting? Probably not, as in I’m an engineer. So wth are you doing in the arctic circle telling everybody to work only on “fusion, guys”.
@guringai
@guringai Год назад
This is total nonsense and you haven't provided an economic argument. No mention of the massive problem with what to do with nuclear waste.
@Nill757
@Nill757 Год назад
“Massive”? Never hurt anybody, anywhere ever. Fossil fuel emissions and explosions and fires kill people everyday around the world. Why not save the adjectives for the things that actually kill people.
@guringai
@guringai Год назад
@@Nill757 . Ok not yet, but the risk is far from zero given the extreme long time periods required for safe storage. It's typical for humans to only think in the very short term, & simply transfer the problems we create for those coming later.
@Nill757
@Nill757 Год назад
@@guringai This is tedious. The first post uses “massive”. No evidence, but I get it if all you’ve heard is some thing is bad, that’s what it is. Yet When I ask you to examine relative risk, you come back w adjective #2, “extreme” and “long” time periods. Facts: in the first days weeks spent fuel comes out of a reactor, it’s very dangerous and unprotected it can kill ( as can, say, fire). Very radioactive materials also decay very quickly. The iodine 131 is all gone in a month or two. The lesser but still toxic materials are below the level of uranium in backyard rocks in a few hundred years. After, it must be eaten to be more harmful. Now, the new lithium mine just opened in Australia for batteries, for instance, pulls the the like of arsenic and mercury out of the ground and deposits it in tailing ponds, as do many metals mines. Those materials are hazardous to humans above some limit, and for all time. Is that a massive, extreme problem?
@guringai
@guringai Год назад
@@Nill757 In any risk matrix relating to nuclear waste, well the probability is low in the short term, The risk would no doubt be in the extreme column. If you think radioactive ways is not a problem, then all of the nuclear facilities in the world think differently to you. They all think radioactive waste is a problem. That is why a lot of thought is going into long term signage, to ensure that radioactive waste is well sign posted in the 10, 000-year & beyond time frame. What language will Earthlings be speaking then?
@Nill757
@Nill757 Год назад
@@guringai can you see in your response when asked to defend “extreme”, you respond it’s extreme because it’s extreme? Then you put words in my mouth, “not a problem”. It’s toxic esp in early years, and like a many many toxic things there have to be basic protections.
@AlbertLamarque
@AlbertLamarque Год назад
So you're basically saying it's more expensive to build and run than renewables ("similar cost of fossil fuels") and ignore the waste problem. Which is not only unsolved but also costly and paid for by tax payers.
@75338
@75338 Год назад
Beginning to agree that... wait what?
@Dr.Gehrig
@Dr.Gehrig Год назад
Odd that an economics channel didn't mention the realities of new conventional nuclear power being more expensive than most other forms of electricity generation in most places, as well as the long time to build new plants, and that those realities combine for a very long and modest return on investment.
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