We get fairly regular (2-3 times a year) power cuts in our part of Dorset, so I invested in a 12v Lithium battery for both my marine tanks. Using a Lithium Iron Phosphate Battery, they are mostly happy to be 'deep cycled' (fully charged and discharged) with minimal degradation (they're designed for caravans, boats, etc, and larger versions for whole house batteries). Pairing with a 12v-24v converter, a large 24v power supply (enough for all the pumps on my tank) and a simple power relay, and I have a huge and flexible backup for any 24v kit I need. I can run two Maxspect Jump return pumps, a Maxspect Jump Skimmer and two Gyre 350s on my 5ft tank, for over a day (I gave up testing after 10 hours, still at 60%) from a single power socket and auto-switching to a battery a third of the size of a standard car battery whenever main power is lost. Well worth the investment for me.
For what you're ultimately buying, the hardware side of this hobby is a cash cow / joke. Nice to see you highlight the ecotech power storage in a fancy looking case.
@@davideamer8617 No, because it’s crazy easy. If you followed the Big Red battery build, I’m thinking what you need to know is there. It’s as simple as connecting the 12V side of the boost converter to the battery, and what comes out the other side is 24V. After that, it’s just adding the relay or ReefBoxx.
Thanks Alex! When you shipping to US??? Needs me some Etsy dork love! Anyway, @telegraham I see also is using a flow river 2, that I just bought, $180 USD and quite large relatively, either of you guys compare these two units? Performance seems similar, what’s the advantage of larger river 2? Which should I use???
Excellent video my Ecotech backup just didnt backup after 3 years, I ordered and installed this and it works great backing up 2 x MP40's in East Sussex :)
Hello, I am writing from Italy and I apologize if my English is not correct. Congratulations for the very useful video as was the one that explained how to replace the original battery. I would now like to purchase this lithium battery backup system for the same Vortech MP 40 pumps. I have to get two. The link rightly takes me to the Amazon website UK, but only some indicate products can be shipped to Italy. I therefore kindly ask you to confirm that the products are this one: Lithium Battery: TalentCell Mini UPS Uninterrupted Power Supply 27000mAh 98Wh Lithium ion Backup Battery with DC 12V/9V/5V Output Adapter plug: DC Power Adapter 5.5 mm x 2.1 mm to 3.5 mm x 1.3 mm, DC in line socket Female to DC Male Plug, Coaxial Power Converter for CCTV Equipment, Video Surveillance Camera, LED lights, Notebook, PC I wouldn't want to order something similar but wrong. Thanks and congratulations again!
With all the attention alternative battery options have received lately, I wonder if EcoTech (or really, Aperture) will feel enough pressure to upgrade the antiquated VorTech backup battery to a proper modern standard that’s more worthy of the high price point, or whether they won’t see a hard enough hit to sales to do anything different. Will be an intriguing limited-scale test of their intensive marketing approach, for sure. Fantastic video. Really enjoyed it, this option is excellent.
Given their pricing of the dead acid, I can't imagine that anything new from them would be a valuable offering. Imagine the marketing spin for an $80 20Ah Miady LiFePO4 inside their metal box.
So I have the Ecotech battery back up. I had to replace the battery in it by drilling out the rivets. Saved me $180! My question for you does this battery backup work the same way ? So if there’s a power outage, it automatically kicks on and I don’t have to press an on button? Thanks a lot, dude. Love watching your videos from 🇺🇸 😊
Great News!!, I run my EcoTech battery on my M2 return pump, I changed the original battery over to a Wheel chair type battery as your older video recommended and no faults, just a note that when using the back up battery on a return pump you will need a booster battery connected to your battery to overcome head pressure!! Would this be the same on the Lithium battery perhaps you could give that a trial!, I’ve had a couple of power outages and the batteries worked very well on the short time that the power was out. Love your Videos and insights you give.
It's dead simple with anything 12v or less, but more complicated with anything over 12v (which is most powerheads unfortunately). But I'll talk about that more when I get Telegraham back on the livestream and I'll show a bit more detail in my next video when I do the nano battery backup.
Also couple months ago my Ecotech versa m2 pump stopped working so I’ve changed to ai xis 90 model because it works on mobius app but I forgot about the battery back up option will this lithium alternative connect to ai axis model ??
Great vid! I have an MP40 and Vectra M2 on my Ecotech battery backup, could I swap my current battery backup for the Lithium battery and power both off of it? The Vectra plugged in via Ecotech booster cable and obviously running time will be reduced
Isn't this much smaller than the ecotech? Ecotech is 18 Amp-Hour @ 12-volt =216 wh. The linked battery says it is: 27amp hour @ 3.7v (99.9wh), and gives its own wh as 98. So under half the size (for under half the cost). Just saying that the deal isn't that amazing. Something like the ecoflow river with ~288wh is probably more comparable (also cheaper than the ecotech).
I just have an old car battery hooked up to a trickle charger on one side and a basic transfer switch+ DC buck converter on the other so i might not be the target customer.
No, this goes into the Vortech's dedicated battery backup slot which is for battery backup mode only so you'll still need to use the stock power supply.
Good choice if you are using EcoTech gear however since this is a Lithium ion battery you need to ensure it is not kept inside humid environments. A short will be very bad! Also if you are using it as the main source of power via the backup power port on EcoTech controllers, the devices will throttle down to backup battery mode and will not run your main program. Perhaps you should mention that.
@@kalamazoo_reefer Yes. If you go into settings you will see that battery backup max speed value is hard set to 50%. Not too bad for emergencies but if you want to run it full time then yes. When I tested with my custom batteries I saw it didn't obey the program and remained constant speed but maybe that is something they have changed now. I will test and let you know.
I didn't try, but it has 4x 12v outputs so potentially yes. But I don't know if it'll be able to cope with the amount of watts 2 MP40s would draw. 2x MP10s would potentially be OK mind.
@@ReefDorkXtra after a lot of searching couldn't really find anything similar for Aus. But what I did find was the Ecoflow Delta 2, which for the price of 2x ecotech units has more than 4x the capacity (1024Wh (85Ah@12V))
Yes, but for whatever reason, Sicce included a charger intended to keep 3S 18650s charged. That’s not for me, as I’d prefer to pick my own charger. If their internal charger can be disabled, the answer changes to it’ll totally work.