THE EMPEROR'S WRATH - Boltgun Weapons | WARHAMMER 40,000 [LoreGear] 

Failure to mention all the different bolter patterns is heresy!

Many of them are just slight variations on a theme or time period so not that interesting

Luetin09 if I'm being honest, I didn't know about even half of the different variants before you mentioned them, so thanks for that.

you're an org

If it's depleted diaminium, does that mean that diaminium would be radioactive?

It means its annoying. Its a universe with nothing else but Mary Sues. Only reason it works at all is that there is so many Mary Sues. Everything is either super hyper powerful, or pretty normal, except that normal survives against superpowerful, and then dies superhyperheroic. Normal people and reasonable expectations are just background. Its heroporn. That makes it annoying.

OP is relative.

Ribbitgoesthedog Lastnamehereyeah better than normalporn

I am pretty sure OP in this case mean Over Priced :)

@@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 the imperial guard isn't OP

Talon One Hold on to the pin, throw the OTHER part.

Sorry, what? Throw the pin, you say? Well, alright. Whatever you say Commissar.

**Blows it back in the hole**

Xenos die when they are killed. Help them along the way - Every Chapter Master

@@darkshado124 Damn weeb.

There is a mod to emulate the 40k universe on steam workshop

Get the first dawn of war game and its expansions. Its very very fun and gets the feel of the universe down perfectly. Especially winter assault and dark crusade

Husker54 I totally understand.

Space Marine is definitely worth a look. Its short (6-8 hours) but its really fun and has some of the chunkiest combat in any game I've played. If you've not heard of them yet I highly recommend 40k Theories and KiriothTV. Very different, but good channels for the aspiring 40k fan.

Husker54 ah dawn of war i su ked at it because i was a c&c guy but that game was cool

and shootier.

Yes like dem deffkannonz.

Red wunz go fasta too!

DIE GREENSKINS!!!

You can neva have enuff dakka

Knowing 40k, Pluto was likely: A: Destroyed B: Mined out of Existence C: Warped into the Warp

they probably fitted millions of guns on it or made it into a spaceport, or com station, or all of it.

@@mrlakkie1612 A more badass version of the Death Star... man 40k universe is one hell of a drug.

@@mrlakkie1612 maybe during the Dark Age of Technology it was converted into a World Engine-like thing and everyone has forgotten where it went.

@The Fear Her Or E: Pluto was deemed to not be a planet and thus never inducted as a planet into the Imperium. :P

Like some kind of semi radioactive rocket fuel or something... Would explain why it's so damn expensive.

@@BlandoTaco The video says the deuterium is the the core of the tip. Makes no damn sense. Writers obviously thought that as the US military uses depleted uranium cores in tank ammunition, people in the future would use nuclear fusion material in their ammo I.e. deuterium. Makes no damn sense though. Deuterium is still very light (second lightest atom that exists after hydrogen) and the "depleted" product of deuterium fusion would be some helium isotope which still is very very light. No armor penetration whatsoever. Might give the victim some mild dose of radiation at worst.

if its 40k it could be metallic hydrogen

@@Wilkesmann Not even. Deuterium, while it can be fusion fuel, is stable. (That is, not radioactive). I suppose you could use the deuterium as chemical fuel, but for that, regular hydrogen makes just as much sense.

I know right! Unless there is a small fusion reaction going on to propel or detonate the munitions, that makes no sense.

you did

INACCURACY IS A SIN - THERE WILL ALWAYS BE MORE ENEMIES THAN YOU HAVE ROUNDS.

LoreGear minus "e" ("e" for Emperor) equals Lorgar equals HERESY!

Witted Acrobat19 YES gimme Blood angels!!

I read that in Dorn's enthusiastic voice.

There is a better lore chanel on RU-vid called one mined syndicate

robert flinley I prefer here and 40k theories tbh.

One on the Lamenters would be awesome... though this might cause deep depression.

I think the guys developing the lore at Games Workshops confused depleted uranium rounds with deuterium. Or they just thought it sounded cool or something lol.

Deuterium has been forged into a liquid metal using lasers and also can be forged under high pressure. Jupiter is thought to have high amounts of liquid metallic hydrogen in its dense atmosphere. Deuterium has potentially also been forged into a soild metal after being subject to even more incredibly high pressure using the space between two diamonds to squeeze it. Jury is still out on that one though. Scientists have been trying to create metallic hydrogen for sometime so who knows what we will discover maybe it is possible. Either way with it being theorized in this universe I am happy to believe it can exist in another that has 40,000 years of advancement on our own, I just try not to think of them as being "heavy water" rounds lol

@@Tippetts6618 as far as we know, metallic hydrogen isn't very dense. It is at least less dense than lead.

@@MayonnaiseVenusaur perhaps it has less to do with density. Sure depleted uranium rounds, which is the comparison here, take advantage of the higher density of DU to be effective at penetrating armour however so can a small thin disc of copper with an explosive charge also be effective at armour penetration, the Taliban sure made it work. Obviously the copper plate has limitations depending on its scale. I chose copper as an example because it is almost half the density of depleted uranium and less dense than lead which you mentioned. An APFSDS round that a tank fires is a dart like munition and can be made of depleted uranium or more typically a tungsten rod. It flies towards a target at something like two kilometres per second and upon hitting the target with such speed it burns it's way through armour. By the time it reaches the other side it will either be pieces of super heated metal that ignite other munitions inside the vehicle, kill/ injure crew, damage components and very likely de-pressurise the tank turning crew to jam (this is why tank hatches pop open sometimes when hit) or it may go in one side and out the other doing some or none of the things above. Look at the effectiveness of American and British tanks during the Iraq war. Anyway now that context for this bit is out the way back to the point. it is believed metallic hydrogen would potentially be unstable and revert back to a liquid metal state when pressure is again exerted upon on it so "core" may refer to an encased liquid state deuterium and so maybe a metallic deuterium isn't even relevant. If it is metallic perhaps when the pressure exerted upon the deuterium round upon being fired reverts it back to a metallic liquid, then the energy gathered in flight turns the depleted deuterium into a hot globular of burning metal when it impacts on its target, something akin to a more dense and super heated paintball. Alternatively perhaps it remains a soild metal when leaving the weapon and the pressure during flight or on impact reverts it back to liquid metal basically working in the same way as today's APFSDS rounds do. We know that the ammunition used is also an explosive round and depleted deuterium is unlikely to explode, even if it was a thing so the ammunition is probably something akin to a mix between how an APFSDS and HESH (high explosive squash head) round works. A malleable metallic head with an explosive charge behind. Basically how the Tailban's copper discs work except less penetrative. A HESH rounds squash head part flattens on a surface it impacts on and the explosive force of the charge behind transfers energy through the armour plate and causes a hot piece of "scab like" metal to break off inside a tank which can injure/ kill, damage components or ignite other munitions inside a vehicle, very different to how the APFSDS or the copper disc works. Maybe the bolter rounds then have a depleted deuterium core (liquid or metal) encased behind an explosive head. The explosive head cracks open the armour and the deuterium core, either liquid or solid, follows through the opening and penetrates the target negating any need for the deuterium to have a relatively high density to other materials because it only needs to penetrate the flesh of a target which is pretty malleable. Space marine armour is made of a material called ceramite which is fictional, kind of like depleted deuterium is in fact lol. The nature of ceramite is described on the warhammer wiki as follows: "Unlike metal, Ceramite doesn’t rupture or dent on impact and it takes a projectile of considerable power and high calibre to break through it." It also mentions it doesn't conduct heat so las-weapons are ineffective against it, although all armour is penetrated by a combination of energies be it speed, thermal, pressure etc. A not so dense substance even super heated is probably not gonna burn though this then. Boltguns can be effective against ceramite as seen in the universe of 40k so maybe it is the explosive head of a bolter round that is the effective part vs the armour and depleted deuterium cores job is just for killing the target even if it is a slither of super heated liquid metal that does this. It makes sense for a people who live in a state of constant war to have a good supply of materials to create ammunition and considering deuterium is an isotope of hydrogen, and I think given their advancements they are probably pretty good at manufacturing this, they have a bloody good supply. Although obviously heavy water has other uses...

@@Tippetts6618 excellent points

30 rounds of 5.56 - and about 1/2 of a 40mm HE grenade round (because bolt rounds explode).

You forgot to add faith to the emperor into that equation

The ammunition has extra propellant moving the projectile faster than any bullet used today. Bolter shells don't have the best penetration power but are designed specifically to explode a few milliseconds after impact to explode inside its target to cause massive internal damage to organic creatures and lightly built machinery.

@@trollzynisaacjohan1793 The thing I don't get is if it's just going to blow up why add in an entire mini-rocket to make it go so damn fast? If you have explosives AND propellant how much room is left for actual solid mass?

@@MrFunkhauser that's why it's AP - in 8th and AP 5 from 3rd to 7th ed. It's basically high propellant grenades. It's 40k though so it's not meant too be logical when you have giant green Smurfs (mushroom people) who talk like British soccer hooligans who make junk into functional working albeit sort of reliable technology.

Jim Russel any book is a good start but the Horus heresy is where you should start to see how it all begins.

Jim Russel do you have something specific in mind or do you want more of just a broad overview?

Thanks guys for your valuable info and i want to learn about the emperor's origin and the great crusade

Jim Russel well, the Emperor's origin has only bits and pieces known to be certain. Horus revealed that the Emperor was born in Anatolia (modern-day Turkey) approximately 5000BCE (though I could be misremembering the date) as to the origin of his power, Luetin actually has a theory in one of his videos that I'm a fan of. Have you seen his emperor of man 2parter?

Horus Heresy, Horus Rising is a good start, it explains the schism of the Astartes and rise of Chaos

Datboi Tatertot arms*

@@natesal5037 also that

*nico nico kneecap

He calls carbines assault rifles how is that fair? He's still the best tho

Correction: for the Astartes (Space Marine). Please remember that the SM is not the bulk soldier for the Imperium of Man's fighting force.

@@HalfBreedMix And 75. cal is just 19 mm, not freaking 45 to 50 mm. Please learn what is caliber (refering to Carter Dahl)

If you call them an assault rifle again I will break your arms.

RU-vid damaged this one years after I uploaded it. I'll probably reup soon

@@Luetin09 well it fixes like a quarter of the way through. so it's good. btw i love this series, i have been hooked on it and you have really got me keen on 40k.

kinda of, lasguns are cheaper than their users, while SM are elites, of course, this don't stop writers from sometimes putting undearmed PDF wiping marines in the same book where they defeat an god

The fluff indicates they're slightly smaller than the HV version of the 40mm grenade round. That the "standard" bolter is only somewhat smaller than a Mark 19 automatic grenade launcher, and that the "heavy" bolter is probably about the size of the 30mm chaingun mounted on an Apache helicopter (with a shorter barrel).

@@eriktrimble8784 In the fluff (at least in text), don't they describe bolter shells as being either .998 or .75 caliber? That's way smaller in diameter than a 40x53mm grenade. Have you ever seen a .950 JDJ round? I imagine that a boltgun shell would have similar dimensions to that, perhaps with a shorter casing since the bolt shells themselves generally look like they have straight-walled, rather than bottlenecked casings. (www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/IMG_0080.gif for reference). As for the heavy bolter, I always envisioned it as being similar in dimensions to heavy machine guns like the M2 Browning, or even experimental weapons like the XM307.

Ommy18 Or Tyranids

John Fraire or Tau

lol i just watched that movie tonight! thats hilarious. they dump like 200 rounds in each bug in that movie tho and i def didnt see any of them reload

M-I is far more deadly in the book, and more akin to Space Marines in armament and armor. Pretty sure they were the inspiration for them actually. Of course I'm guessing here but c'mon. Power Armor and Jump Jets?

Good weapon for killing anything, you do not want to be on the receiving end of that

Ive been sick for over 2 weeks lol

I thought I said that somewhere, but if not then yeah obviously its also on super heavy tanks

I didn't find it listed differently anywhere else but please link me to the reference Id be interested to see

can do, i didnt book mark the pages so its gonna be a little bit of search hopefully you have patience with me

www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284381-on-the-scale-mismatch-of-bolts-and-bolters/ forum.eternalcrusade.com/threads/boltgun-size-analysis.45446/ and the ulra marines mvie a bolt shell is roughly the size of an eye

No the Godwyn used by the Astartes currently is specified as .75 caliber, Phobos .70, and Umbra .60. FW HH campaign books and others as sources. Sororitas have a .75 varient but in lore use a very wide variety of bolter patterns depending on where they are from as they do not have the same uniformity of production Astartes forges do. .998 or 1.00 cal ate usually in the heavy bolter range or specialist weapons. Keep in mind explosivity of many compounds in the far future may be much higher per gram than current compounds like RDX.

Fenrir I’m fairly sure that bolt rounds do actually use gun powder to start off and the self propellant only starts when the bullet leave the barrel

Usually those are storm bolters. Most are standard but others come with a power fist.

How does anything ever work in warhammer 40k? Psykers ... ^^

You really wouldn't want to have a (former) Bolter Bitch as a wife. She'd cut your balls off if she thought you were not devoted enough in your daily worship of the Emperor.

Ya mean you didn't know a Stryfe fired "depleted Deuterium" Rocket Boolets? O.o