This is the point where AJ needs to understand Eddie Hearn is not his friend. All there is left now is to secure your future place on the same CTE ward as Chisora in 25 years time.
If it was a lucky punch, the hope would remain. But Anthony was run over through all rounds and finally put to sleep. In terms of reputation there is no return from this.
this wasn't like the andy ruiz loss. DD controlled that fight from first bell. DD will just have to touch him once in the rematch and it will be another loss.
We need to address Ben Davidson - what the hell was the game plan?? it was a complete disaster. This was AJ's worst EVER performance. Zero defence and wild swings. There is no point in retiring on that performance. Rematch DD and if it happens again retire. He can make the adjustments but it is all about if DD has taken his soul
Exactly...it can't get worse than yesterday. So rematch him, adjust, correct the mistakes and maybe he might put on a competitive performance. If not, well same happens again and he can end his career
@@davidchester429 these guys are so weird, why are they avoiding the point you made? This was a very dangerous fight for him regardless, people sided towards him but thinking objectively it was a 50/50 fight, the better guy won, but apparently that means the loser ‘has to retire’ now 🤦🏿♂️ God help sports fans.
It was NEVER EVER a 50\50 fight I was so excited when this was announced I knew it was his end and that I would make some money on this. All analysis and critiquing was done by hype merchants and industry shills. True experts and most fighters (not on someones payout) knew DDD would maul him. He was the first to enter the ring thinking I'm going to beat you up and it really showed
I think AJ should retire healthy. He has done very well in boxing and should call it a quit. He has had an incredibly envious career, loved by many and hated by some. What more can you ask for. He should avoid being used as a stepping stone by the younger generation. Credit to DDD. AJ got me worried right from the first round with his wobbly legs. It was so hard to watch. Ref ought to stop the fight earlier than he did. I think he should stop boxing and I mean this in good spirit as a Nigerian. I absolutely agree with everything you have said about AJ and his career as well as his future.
Agreed. Boxing is a highly skilled sport. The lack of skill on display by Team Joshua yesterday was not acceptable. Team Joshua's gameplan was deeply deeply flawed in both attack and defense.
The one thing riyadh season did was open up the divison. Or before AJ/Fury/Wilder made it seem they were levels above everyone. Now you got parker resurgence, DDD showing up, zhang showing up, kabayal showing up, bakole showing up. Regardless of who you support as a boxing fan this is a great time to be watching
Anthony Joshua's resume is padded and thin; he hasn’t faced many young, current heavyweights, and it showed in his performance against Daniel Dubois. His notable victories came against a series of journeymen and older fighters: he faced Dillian Whyte, who, while tough, was still a journeyman; the soft Dominic Breazeale; Charles Martin and Eric Molina, both of whom were relatively unknown; an aging Carlos Takam; a past-prime Wladimir Klitschko, (with some referee aid) Joseph Parker; an old Alexander Povetkin; and an old Kubrat Pulev, faced Robert Helenius who had fought just two weeks prior, a sparring partner, Otto Wallin, & an MMA fighter. This lack of competition against young, dynamic heavyweights left AJ unprepared for the challenges posed by Dubois. When he finally stepped into the ring with a fresh, aggressive fighter, his shortcomings were clear. It highlighted a missed opportunity for him to truly test himself against the best in their prime, which was crucial for his development as a fighter.
This is highly speculative. I do suspect the fight could’ve gone different if AJ had the right game plan down, and had the environment been different more of a quiet and mellow one. However, AJ’s team as at fault for such a bizarre game plan, and Dubious came with the right tactics and game plan to defeat aj.
Many people, who followed AJ's ascension to stardom, purposely ignored the fact that Eddie Hearn was protecting him from his mando Ortiz for years, and Ortiz was the only real danger for AJ in the days, when Hearn cunningly lied to Ortiz, that he'll let him fight AJ immediately, if he lets AJ fight Klitschko first, knowing well, that after Klitschko he could continue deceiving him by telling him that the IBF have Pulev to fight him next, while Ortiz had been AJ's mando already for years before the Klitschko fight, and then AJ should've fought Ortiz in New York, but it looks like the team of Ortiz had messed up big time and when Ortiz had found out, that he could fight AJ, he immediately apologized for what his team had done and said to Hearn, that he'll fight AJ even for 5 millions, the the offer was 7, but Hearn still didn't want to give him the fight. He pretended like Ortiz didn't want to fight and he would expose him, when he came back to England, while it would've been much easier to expose him by letting him fight AJ, especially when he claimed, that AJ would knock Ortiz out in three rounds, but at the same time Adam Smith said on some British TV channel, that the real reason for AJ not fighting Ortiz on short notice was, because Ortiz is a dangerous southpaw. That's how they always avoided to fight Ortiz, and that's why they went searching for allegedly easier opposition and found Ruiz, and Ruiz did, what they were afraid of what Ortiz might have done. It was like FINALLY karma caught up with AJ for their constant cheating and lying. AJ once even had personally asked the WBA president to take Ortiz out of the rankings, what was very disgraceful, but it showed, how much they both were scared of him and Hearn even demanded a lifetime ban for Ortiz, when Ortiz decided to fight Wilder and was caught with taking some medicine, which he was actually allowed to take due to his high blood pressure. It was Eddie, who was so scared of Ortiz and did neither want AJ nor Whyte to fight him. He even stopped Whyte once, when he already had decided to fight Ortiz. AJ finally got, what he deserved, because by playing these cunning games Hearn actually had destroyed Luis Ortiz's career. He was from Cuba, didn't speak English and unfortunately wasn't the smartest in promoting himself, but in his prime he seemed to be the best of them all and both Wilder and AJ were scared of him.
This is for sure the beginning of the end if not The end for him. When a fighter goes into a fight scared he might lose rather than the mentality that i am going to win and smash up the other guy its for sure game over.
The path back to the top is actually very easy on paper. He has a rematch clause. If he wins that and Fury beats Usyk, they'll make the undisputed fight. Whether AJ is capable of beating Dubois is another question (I personally think he'd lose again). So in a perfect (delusional) world, AJ could be undisputed champion in 2 fights
Even if AJ beat Dubois would most people accept him as the winner of this rivalry and consider him as the top dog in the division? When he came back against Ruiz most people were willing to overlook the 1-1 score as a fluke because he was ko'ing everyone before. But now he already lost 4 time, atleast 2 of them were pretty embarassing losses. I think he would need to rematch dubois and literally destroy him, probably destroy another 2-3 guys like Bakole maybe then. But the reality is just he isnt capable of doing this.
Even if he does not rematch DDD. He can fight the loser of the furyusyk fight and if he beats them he's there again maybe a rematch with parker somewhere there since parkers WBO mando and he can squeeze in another title fight BUTTTT thats on paper. Can AJ beat fury or usyk or even parker on his current form ??
From a mental perspective, I think it’s very unlikely AJ can come back from this defeat against Dubois. However, AJ absolutely has the physical capability of defeating Daniel Dubois and erasing the mistakes he made in this fight, the main one being AJ constantly leaving his left hand low by his chest allowing Dubois to counter AJ with the right hand. Time will tell, but it looks like it’s the end of an era.
It wasn’t AJ's confidence that let him down; it was his low boxing IQ. Confidence helps, but in the ring, it’s not enough. AJ had the physical tools but lacked the ability to adapt when things went wrong. Boxing IQ separates the good from the great-it's about reading the opponent and adjusting on the fly. AJ follows a plan, but when it falls apart, he can’t improvise. At the highest level, mental sharpness is key, and without it, even the most confident fighter will fall short.
The guy has earned £200m on the back of a Hail Mary uppercut against 41 Year Old Klitschko He is very much a confidence fighter And right now he has NONE He is also 35 and if he continues needs to be totally rebuilt from scratch
I'm now wondering if Spencer Fearon tried to leak that there was trouble in Daniel Dubois camp when Don Charles didn't show up because he know AJ was nervous and need some confidence. I also look back at the conference, the ring walk, before they were in the ring and AJ just look to stiff.
We want to see 50/50 fights. The problem is fighters get written off when they lose, especially a bad defeat. But ......aj is 35 too old to rebuild, his mental state doesn't seem in it anymore
I think that boxers that get knocked out should not have to go through interviews or press conferences CTE is a big problem they should go through a protocol of going to the medics and sent home. The NFL has this protocol after a player gets knocked out of a game. AJ I think accomplished all he could and had a promoter that calculated his fights that allowed him to earn his money. I think that AJ could retire and do what Mayweather did and start his own boxing promotion. We need black promoters in boxing and he could do that
AJ was exposed in Ruiz fight. Speed and jab beats him. DDD was more technically sound with a size to match. AJ approached the fight like he was facing Ngannou 2.0, with zero respect . DDD finished off what Usyk softened. In reality, AJ would have only been glorified journey man in 80s and 90s.
No, this is not the end! I would like to see AJ fight Wilder next year while they are recently removed from their primes! It won't be as good a fight as it could've been a couple of years ago but it will still be entertaining!
2 losers fighting each other perfect end for both of them. I predict wilder will put AJ to sleep with that suspect glass jaw that he has. DD put him down with a check hook, not even a full shot.
More interested in exposing Dubois cheating who cares about AJ he’s been irrelevant since Usyk beat him. Why are people fans of a guy who headbutts/leads with his head, low blows, forearm across the throat, punches the back of the head, and admits he’s going to cheat before the fights? Dubois gets a belt from a guy who KOed him with a jab after punching said fighter in the ass, balls and eventually bladder, then fights a guy who also got beat by that guy twice. Imagine being a fan of a fighter like that.
I agree think he’s done well but the loss like that is to much to comeback from maybe they will do Aj vs Fury is Fury loses to Usyk again. Or AJ vs wilder but they aren’t the same magnitude they could of been years gone by
Aj shouldn't fight on again as he's got his faculty intact he's made so much money to cement his family and his grandkids. It's jus a shame he didn't get to fight wilder and fury. The nature of the loss was devastating too. His star ppv attraction would of took a massive knock and he will properly never outsell Wembley again
Sad for AJ, I don’t see any heavyweight having the same commercial success as AJ, Usyk & Tyson would be done in a year or 2. Not sure I’ll stick around after the 3 are done. ✌️
@@ironfist768 True. Joshua won his second fight against Ruiz after losing the first. He is a better fighter than Ruiz. But he lost both of his fights against Usyk and is clearly not better than him. Dubois beat Joshua very convincingly and is a fighter who has lost in the past (to Usyk, like Joshua) but is much improved and on the way up. If Joshua is still 'levels' above Dubois, he needs to prove it in a rematch. But based on the last fight, the evidence is Dubois is now the better fighter.
after wilder fury aj there is no others we always get years and years without any characters in the game and it goes quiet those boring years are coming back , aj should take the rematch just to milk it might as well you can clearly see from ruiz fight aj is finished mentally such a shame that ruiz loss destroyed his ability to throw hands , yesterdays performance was tragic chin up in the air only throwing bombs now and then walks on to the ko tragic should have boxed using the jab he had longer reach all the advantage over dubois i think he lacks motivation its hard to get up and fight when your wearing silk pyjamas hagler.
Why do people mother A.J? He isn't a baby who needs to work off trauma after rhe Ruiz loss and needs to climb out of his hole. All other heavyweights know off were the same after one loss. Joshua was hype from the beginning.
i personally would like him to stay around, and fight wilder (who i think he beats) and then after usyk beats fury in the rematch , they should make aj vs fury. I don’t think it’s fair to write him off after this loss, the division is so deep and there’s so many great fights he can still be in. I don’t think he is completely shot, i think he really needs to fix his defense though. How hard is it to circle out with a high guard? It’s basic boxing fundamentals. I think the Ngannou and wallin fights made him think he was a master at controlling distance, but the reality was those guys were just no good.
Poor fella was so bad I thought he wouldn't even make it as an amatuer. The single worst display I have ever seen from anyone who has ever been near a world champion.
He needs to pack up BUT! he won’t, the GREED! has been there from day one. Hearn and Joshua have earned multimillions of pounds through careful matchmaking. They failed big time on this so called cherrypick. Hearn and Joshua will still try and earn multimillions more. MONEY! is the motivation ALWAYS! has been.
The man has only fought sub par or past prime boxers his whole career. You are confused my friend. Never fought Wilder or Fury! What are you talking about?
I'm am no expert but have been doing combat sports or a long time, if I dropped my guard like that I would get me head taken off, so don't know why aj thought he could get away with it
THIS IS WHAT I THINK . A. J SHOULD STOP BOXING HE TOOK TOO MUCH SHOTS TO HIS HEAD. HE IS VERY LUCKY NOT TO FALL IN A COMA . HEAVY BOXER HIT VERY HARD HE IS ALREADY RICH AND FAMOUS,,,, I LOST A GOOD FRIEND TWO YEARS AFTER HE FALL OF IS RACE CYCLE HITTING IS HEAD ON THE ROAD, FALLING IN A COMA FOR TWO WEEKS.
I HATE this sensationslist rhetoric from boxing commetators. No its not the end for AJ, unless he retires. There are still a multitude of sellable fights out there for him. Like Zhang, wilder, parker, Fury etc...
On the night, DD was very good he came in with a game plan and when he was tested he responded admirably, but is he that great ? I saw a few holes, his gas is not great he was gassing already in the 4th after setting a high pace from the 1st to 3rd. And his chin is not the best either he was hurt in the 5th and he went down from an Uzyk jab.
that was a punishing defeat.. if hearn really cared about his health he’d advise him to retire, he has nothing to prove anymore..but of course it’s all about money , not the fact joshua could end up punch drunk.
Can u make a video explaining mark brelands power just how u explained julians jackson a while ago i dont know if they both generate power the same way but mark breland mentions him doing a technique when throwing the right cross
WEll he does have a ramtch clause, and says I belivee he will exercise it. But if he loses again, that many feel will hapen, yes then he should quit. I am sure he is well off, adn best of luck to him.
AJ isn't and never was a great fighter like Usyk is. Neither has he had great fights that'll go down in history. Sure he was a great star in the UK and maybe in the non-boxing Saudi Arabia. He never made it in the US. He's been found out four times. If they had made the big fights with Wilder and Fury at the right times then maybe he could have a real legacy. But they didn't and his own management team has to be questioned. He lost his Mojo years ago. Sad but true.
What nonsense are you talking, he ducked Wilder, Fury biggest cherry picker in heavyweight boxing, the fights he did lose he was a massive favourite to win.
AJ should retire he's been an average heavyweight and he's been made out to be better than he is because today's heavyweights are poor except usyk !! 👍🏴🦊
Wembley was booked before 5v5 and the best man from the card was in line for AJ. Hrgovic or Wilde was supposed to be that guy but DDD ruined the plan and AJ lost his pen. AJ demanded that he is the a side and the IBF strap has to be on the line. Only after his excellency made Usyk give up the belt did AJ sign to fight ddd. Now we know why and we who noticed this are a bit richer now.
Joshua is a big overgrown bodybuilding journeyman, who was overhyped by the corrupt British press .... Bodybuilders can't fight .... When will people learn .... Especially with those skinny legs.
@@MarkSchreind 80’s and 90’ , and especially prior decades produced different breed of fighters, no glitz, fighting with desperation , with limited opportunities. …….however, Give credit to modern promotors for their success in marketing their coddled products .
@@jimsmailorg 70s generation were the best ... Norton, Holmes, Ali, Shavers , Foreman, Frazier, Lyle, Quary, and lots of crafty boxers like Jimmy Young .... These men were tough. ... Sometimes a great light heavyweight would test his luck at heavyweight ... Bob Foster ... These men were brave. They could take a punch and give a punch.
A. J a my boy don't matter what skills and power in Boxing just not enough psychology as the older man should be A J first step in that fight you can't fight fire with fire look back on the fight I am just a true boxing fan you don't have to throw a punch because you rush your opponent see is action because he has to do something if in that moment it all down you what you see. A. J you will return
I agree with your point about Joshua, Wilder, Fury and Uysk having no more than five fights between them from this point before retirement. In a couple of years, the heavyweight division will have a similar feel to the early to mid 80s. It will have talented fighters and the odd great fight, though will be somewhat devoid of personalities, the styles of each fighters won't be as distinctive and, unlike in that period when Larry Holmes was seen as the number one heavyweight, there won't be one obvious stand out fighter who people think could be undisputed, though I don't think there will be as many upsets, It won't be as bad as the Klitschko era, but it won't be quite as compelling as this era of heavyweights. A number of people have asked if Fury vs Joshua will now happen. If Fury loses to Uysk in the rematch, I still think it can happen, but similar to when Kell Brook and Amir Khan fought each other. It will be for pride and nothing more. I would add as a caveat that it would have to happen next year for there to still be some interest.
