The End of Haas has Begun

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🏁 What's the future of Haas F1 after the sudden and shocking departure of Guenther Steiner? 🤔 In this in-depth video, we delve into the unexpected decision that sent shockwaves through the Formula 1 world. Discover the fascinating story behind Steiner, a beloved cult icon within the team, and why he had to bid farewell. We'll dissect the intriguing dynamics that led to this significant change in leadership and explore the newly appointed team principal, Ayao Komatsu, who comes from within the ranks of Haas.
But that's not all! We'll also take a closer look at a broader trend sweeping through Formula 1: the trend of hiring team principals with strong engineering backgrounds or promoting from within, with an emphasis on cost-efficiency. How is this approach reshaping the landscape of F1 management, and what could it mean for the sport's future?
Join us for a thought-provoking discussion on the challenges and doubts surrounding Haas' journey to success and their strategic decisions regarding outside investment. Is their reluctance to embrace change a risky move, or could it be the secret to their continued presence in the fiercely competitive world of Formula 1? Stay informed and engaged with the latest Formula 1 updates and insights, and let's unravel the mysteries of Haas' path forward. 🚗💨
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Formula 1 fans eagerly anticipate the F1 2024 season, with the Haas F1 Team making waves in the headlines. Team Principal Guenther Steiner, known for his candid remarks, was expected to steer the team towards success...until he was promptly sacked! With Ayao Komatsu on board, Haas F1 is poised for an uncertain season. For more Formula 1 news and updates, be sure to subscribe to our F1 RU-vid channel, where we delve into the Haas F1 Team's history, Romain Grosjean's memorable moments, and the financial backing from MoneyGram. Stay tuned as we drive to survive and cover the latest from the world of Formula 1, including insights on Sauber, AlphaTauri, Alpine, and other stake F1 teams.
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@LawVS 4 месяца назад

My socials: linktr.ee/lawvs The Red Bull/Alphatauri Situation: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RfioJgI_y2Q.html

@The_ZeroLine 4 месяца назад

Haas it begun?

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Good one.

@hersencell6880 4 месяца назад

It Haas

@TFSMF2 4 месяца назад

Beat me to it

@russianmegabot5272 4 месяца назад

It Haas to end

@NeXMaX 4 месяца назад

An absolute dishaaster, and an absolute embarrhaasment

@andreastetzer2594 4 месяца назад

Hadn't seen that quote from Gene. Huge red flag for many things. He expects greatness from the team without any additional commitment from him.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Go read the stuff about he supposedly turned away Ryan Reynolds and let Alpine smooth talk their way.

@rosco3 4 месяца назад

Gene essetially doesn't want to lose control and isn't willing to spend the necessary amount

@andreastetzer2594 4 месяца назад

Wow! Control is everything to him. Maximum Effort Investments and partners probably dodged a bullet by not working with him. @@LawVS

@rickjoyce637 4 месяца назад

Just like Papa Stroll. He wants to keep all the control.

@y_fam_goeglyd 4 месяца назад

@@LawVSI'm convinced that he's using the team's - very public - failure as a tax write off for his other businesses. He has a very dodgy history with the tax man after all.

@DampNoodles 4 месяца назад

Gene must have quite the complex going on wanting such drastic improvement without any extra investment. Ill be shocked if Haas make it to round 1 of 2025.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Turns out Ryan Reynolds came knocking and Gene sent them away stating they weren't genuine and wanted to flip and not truly offer help.

@NewtypeCommander 3 месяца назад

@@LawVSIf I could say something to Gene in regards to that offer, it would be this, "ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR F**KING MIND?! You would turn down the investment group that turned the Wrexham Football Club from an unknown backwater club into something of an underdog team? Is your ego and pride really that important to you?"

@tokitchi98 4 месяца назад

Michael Andretti has said that during his discussions Gene Haas has said he doesn’t care about running at the back, it works for him. That was in the latest video from the race. You also have to understand that he will not give up the prominent spaces on his cars that are needed to run his own billboards. So title sponsorships are going to be difficult to obtain. When Gene Haas said he needed to do something about the performance I think he is just doing damage control. His real problem is he can no longer hide the truth but he will do his best to pretend that Haas is a racing team. We talk about what will Andretti bring to the sport? Well what does Haas bring to the sport now Steiner has gone? I think Gene Haas is a smart man that has gamed the system. I just do not think he cares about what F1 is. F1 should be about every team trying to reach the top and competing. Not just taking advantage of its viewership.

@stephenbaxter3369 4 месяца назад

I suspect there is a danger that interest in the Haas team will wane now that Gunter is gone. Fans matter in a sport like F1.

@mikearend997 4 месяца назад

It's the American way - find an angle to make money and play it until it dies. Then switch to another angle. Capitalism at it's finest. Personally, I have no respect for Gene, as far as F1 goes.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

That is just so depressing...

@Limegreenedragon 4 месяца назад

It's like that one meme: Haas is evolving but backwards

@FNAroundProductions 4 месяца назад

@@mikearend997listen, gene trying to make something out of from Ferrari and not developing his own wind tunnel or hiring competent engineers is his own fault. Andretti would literally bring GM in who already have competitive wind tunnels and engineering capability. Look at how good Cadillac has been in LMP for the past few years, It could be good if given a chance.

@liukin95 4 месяца назад

I feel that Guenther was the glue that really held that team together. In the racing aspect, he wasn't best placed but in the managerial aspect, he was the reason many of Haas' employees stayed loyal to the team. Now he's gone I can see a brain drain happening within the team, knowing that Gene may well sell the team off to the highest bidder where there may be no safety net for them to land on if and when that happens.

@thrillathakilla 4 месяца назад

Personality wise, Gunther Steiner was the modern day Eddie Jordan I think. He's got that unusual likable personality that's a contrast to the very serious other team managers. Gene Haas has never struck me as being particularly interested in F1. I remember before their first season I read an interview where he was more interested in thinking of F1 as a business opportunity and he's not that interested in the sport itself. This is coming out more and more. He seems so far away and frustrated by the whole thing

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

It really does seem like Gene is all about the marketing side and promoting his own business...but with each passing year and a failure to really evolve whilst the other teams are in some way, it's becoming more obvious he's not into F1.

@nucleardrifting3864 4 месяца назад

I don’t know. I kind of feel like he didn’t have the mindset innovation. I don’t think Haas has reached the cost cap but it should be up there. Gunther is more suited as an economist for the team to get advertisers. Having an engineer run the team might be what it needs. The way that he was let go wasn’t it though.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

He seems like a guy, Guenther, that can get things set up; then he needs the right people around him to take his initial work and evolve it from there. You want him to begin with and then bring a team around him to assist him. Him as a manger, rather than a boss, would be excellent.

@DominicGreene72 4 месяца назад

@@LawVS that is also a thing in the broader business world, interestingly (or not interestingly). There’s a different skill set required to get a company up and running than to maintain and grow that same business with an established foundation. I imagine it’s a different mindset as well.

@stevenmoran4060 4 месяца назад

But, the “engineer” was already at the team overseeing poor performance. So just how is promoting from within a poorly performing team going to make things any better?

@martinavery3979 4 месяца назад

@@LawVSwe don't know what he can do as the money was never there to finish the job. I can't help thinking that Andretti might want to look at hiring him to get started

@The_ZeroLine 4 месяца назад

I’m not a fan of his, but I don’t think you have any idea of what Gunther actually did or does if that’s what you think he did or was his specialty. RaceFans has a good article on how Haas likely never makes the grid without him and how he created a model that others have taken.

@nscanada 4 месяца назад

The problem with Haas is that they're are not improving to their rivals . Also with Mclaren and Aston Martin improving not helping the team so in general I don't see them getting better.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

They're just existing and not reading the room that other teams are sinking in tons of money.

@rickj.9202 4 месяца назад

Many many terrific insights in this video. GREAT job! 👏🏼👍🏼🏁

@Uzair_Of_Babylon465 4 месяца назад

Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍

@pat834 4 месяца назад

Hey just want to say I just decided your my New Favorite F1 RU-vidr. You Put out amazing stuff

@stopgof1 4 месяца назад

I really dont see Haas selling to Andretti. Gene is going to want $600-800 million for the team and all Andretti have to do is wait and they will get on the grid for much cheaper. Also like you said there is a little bit of beef there. But if there is one thing Haas is really good at its finding the most shady awful businessmen on the planet. So Gene can just sell to one of them! Welcome Elon Musk racing in 2025!

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Andretti are probably going to have to stump up $600m to get past the bollards of entry. If they can buy out a team and its stuff for the same amount that's better.

@antoniusbaswara8477 4 месяца назад

Elon Musk F1 team... still better investment than twitter 🤣

@ultramariogod 4 месяца назад

An E car in F1? FIA will have a field day with Elon Musk

@ninab.4540 4 месяца назад

Oh nooo

@ninab.4540 4 месяца назад

@ultramariogod Elon had 10 years to have a winning Tesla team in FE. If he join F1 through Haas it would be a disaster.

@MahF1V10 4 месяца назад

I wonder how likey K Mag will continue with Hass after next season. Nico seems to already have a foot out the door. Maybe Komatsu would be less afraid of bringing on a rookie.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

I reckon this will be it. He will probably head back to sportscar racing.

@PH-68 4 месяца назад

Personally I think gene is focusing on his NASCAR team, that team has been champion winning in the past but since 2021 it’s been in a ruff patch, but gene only co-owns that team so maybe I’m wrong.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Like he sees F1 as a cash cow ready to take to market at a certain date when F1's value peaks?

@PH-68 4 месяца назад

@@LawVSI could see that

@heydude23001 4 месяца назад

@@LawVSaren't team values peaking right now? Gene runs the risk of his team falling even further behind the rest, and losing team value. Once Haas again finishes last in the Constructors this season, the team becomes even less desirable to possible investors and sponsors. Williams was on the verge of cratering when that capital firm stepped in to buy them out, at a relatively cheap price. What is Gene waiting for? He should call Andretti and get a sale done now.

@CuddlesEnjoyer 4 месяца назад

@@heydude23001 remember that while is true that the car kinda sucks, their infrastructure is still there... So I don't think so...

@randallellison6421 4 месяца назад

I don't know man, even the NASCAR fans are starting to have doubts about HAAS. Some are even speculating that co-owner Tony Stewart will sell his ownership stake and get out entirely to focus on drag racing. They're even going so far as to say Stewar-HAAS will cease to exits by as early as 2026! I think that's a bit extreme personally, but it's not a good look when BOTH F1 and NASCAR fans are starting to doubt your operation!

@mikearend997 4 месяца назад

You're having a busy off season! I agree entirely, especially with them finishing last in 2024. If so, probably the last year for Nico and Kevin. Gene just doesn't care for anyone but himself.

@apbishhh3423 4 месяца назад

Which is sad because both Kevin and Nico are decent drivers and don’t deserve a team that really doesn’t care about them and their reputation:(

@FillUp703 4 месяца назад

This has quickly become my favorite F1 related channel. Every video is a must watch.

@WRC-FAN 4 месяца назад

I agree, best F1 channel on RU-vid.

@zuzu2402 4 месяца назад

Became a hass fan in 21’ I jus hope gene hass and can OPEN HIS EYES and realize what’s going on😩

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

He needs to look around the grid and see what 's going on. Haas' rivals are investing hard and attracting outside investors whilst F1 is popular...but Haas has the blinkers on.

@SirZuri 4 месяца назад

For me it always made sense if Binotto joined Audi for their engine project as he worked in the engine departement at Ferrari in the past. But he would probably be an interesting name for the engine programs at Alpine or RedBull. But also Sauber doesn't really have a real team principal yet and it begs the question why that is. I mean Alunni Bravi is just in a weird position and seems more like a spokesperson than anything else and it is clear that he will have to step down again at some point in the near future. Either they waited / are still waiting for someone (Binotto) to return from gardening leave or they just keep the position vacant and let Audi do whatever they want to do with it. Also Binotto was born and raised in Switzerland so that would be a match. Well f it. I will just predict now that Binotto will be the new TP at Sauber as soon as he is able to sign with them. I mean why not? He has the experience, was probably not as bad as the media made him out to be and Sauber has a need for a TP after such a bad season. Also Hinwil is probably a very good place to be right now. I mean they can't really do worse, have a lot of upside in my opinion with the investments coming in and there is still the fact that Audi is joining in 2026. Could be a great place for his redemption arc. And if Audi still wants to place someone else in that position from 2026 onwards, they could just give him a 2 year deal. And imagine, Binotto going from Ferrari, the sports most historic and prestigous team, a place where everybody is so proud to work for an institution that, since centuries, is building the worlds most iconic and beloved race / road cars, a place where the employees wear the prancing horse on their shirts as a badge of honor to the marketing shitshow that is the "Stake F1 Team" right now. Would be kinda hilarious.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Perhaps. Binotto probably wants a backroom job away from the media so he can do what he likes.

@cococalm 4 месяца назад

Promotion from within is best principle to operate on if you have a performing team at the top of their game so you maintain momentum from a point of strength. I am not sure this is the best idea for HAAS though at this juncture, because Komatsu is an engineer who has been intimately linked to the build of all the HAAS cars ever ...... and which have not amounted ot much thus far. Komatsu has to make good with that which Steiner could not ..... I ask myself how ? I think Komatsu is being dealt a very raw deal .... unless he is a magician !!

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

I can see tha consistency was useful but you're right. It feels weird. If Adrian Newey retired and they promoted from within, that would make sense. Adrian would've tought a team of folks to take on his role and show them his way of thinking and there could be a sense of continuity and even then, Newey would probably still oversee them anyway.

@emraldmetals7411 4 месяца назад

I think that the most likely buyer of HASS is Ferrari. Mercedes, RedBull racing and to a lesser extent Mclaren and Alpine have places to put there drivers, but since Sauber got bought by Audi, Ferrari has no where to place their rookie driver. If Andretti buys it, i doesn't think they will be ok with taking a Ferrari driver

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

I reckon Ferrari would rather avoid the similar tensions with Red Bull and Alphatauri's relationship.

@stephenbaxter3369 4 месяца назад

There is only one Ferrari and they can afford the best drivers.

@flyingstump2938 2 месяца назад

Checking in from your latest Haas video. Thanks for at least keeping it honest

@jornwillems2594 4 месяца назад

Great video

@RacingAddiction53866 4 месяца назад

The video was uploaded 3 minutes ago how can you say it is a great video?😆

@benbasterfield6240 4 месяца назад

I think letting go of geunther is a mistake, i think he has been proven to be a good manager of an f1 team, however i do think Andretti getting the team would be very interesting to see

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

If he had been moved to a managerial role in the factory overseeing Komatsu's directives that would've been better.

@benbasterfield6240 4 месяца назад

@@LawVS actually really agree with that

@Evarakeus 4 месяца назад

One thing I think people aren't considering re:Andretti buyout is that if that happens, he wouldn't be the 'savior' of Haas's staff. If anything, he'd be making a large majority of them redundant. Why would an American IndyCar team with GM backing have a technical facility in Maranello? An office in South Carolina? Even the Banbury office would be on the chopping block, as it's simply not big enough to host a proper F1 base. The only reason Andretti has to buy Haas is simply to get his foot in the door, their facilities are of absolutely no use to his prospective team and a buyout would probably be a disaster for most Haas employees, especially the Italian ones

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Oh of course. He would bring in their own people into the facilities, purge the expendable and keep a skeleton crew to ensure the tools are kept running.

@weybye91 4 месяца назад

Cause majority of the races are in Europe, then you can also have 2 facilities focus on different parts, plus GM would still need to learn how F1 Cars work, since they aren't like LMPs

@charlesjmouse 4 месяца назад

"Well Mr Andretti. You see we won't let you join our exclusive club even though more entrants would be good for the sport, because we're far too damn greedy for our own collective good." "Funny you should mention not wanting any more teams..." ;-)

@rosetzu_nagasawa 4 месяца назад

Guenther is a a real hero since he is working with so much less and delivering unbelievable results.

@MikkelL03 4 месяца назад

Sometimes i wonder how Gene even got such a well know name in racing series. It really doesn't seem like he knows what he is doing or what needs to do.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

I don't know for sure but it was clearly over a long period of time. Perservence is useful sometimes.

@craiglawrence9515 4 месяца назад

This is either going to be a stroke of genius or an embarrassing mistake! Share holders must be worried!

@DiorRF 4 месяца назад

This can’t be the last time I get a Law “AYE YOO”! That was great!

@SKWiid_13 4 месяца назад

Man I really dont see Andretti having any interest in the team. He wants an entirely american f1 team, and the only american thing about Haas is Gene Haas himself. Would Andretti really want it? Or would he buy it, gut it, and move everything to the US? As much as I want Andretti on the grid, I dont know if it would be the right move. BUT, heres a wild prediction... what if Audi scrapped Sauber due to their recent ridiculousness and went with Haas instead? 👀

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Andretti has been courting Haas since 2020. He's just hovering there ready to wait for Gene to call time.

@SKWiid_13 4 месяца назад

@@LawVS I guess I just dont understand how hes going to do it effeciently, I thought he was adamant about the cars being american powered and built. Would that void any contracts for Ferrari power trains? what about the facilities and faculty in other parts of the world?

@sloppynyuszi 4 месяца назад

I get where Gene is coming from. He never seemed like a man with great ambition, just wanted a solid midfield team with the occasional shining performance. So his idea of buying as much as possible from a front running team and outsourcing the rest with just having an on track team sounds fine. This is the model Helmut is pushing for at Racing Bull AT. Having two wooden spoons in 3 seasons is also unacceptable. We don’t know the conversations between Gene and Gunther, but things had to change and maybe there was a compromise on the table Gunther didn’t want to accept. I think next year they can take it to Stake F1 and maybe even Racing Bull AT. I agree today’s flavour of F1 your own facility is key. With massive investments in all teams already happening for years, Haas was left behind.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Guenther is a great manager, popular with staff and got the initial building blocks in place thanks to his charisma. However, he lacked the vision to take the initial model to the next level.

@IRLangmaid25 4 месяца назад

Another factor that needs to be brought into consideration is that Gene's Haas' NASCAR team which he co-owns with Smoke (aka Tony Stewart) has also lost major sponsorship in the shape of Busch (which was on Kevin Harvick's 4 car who has retired) has gone to Trackhouse No 1 car. Plus Aric Amirola and Smithfield's on the 10 car has also left. While SHR has two new drivers they are having to get sponsorship money and may be impacting Haas' decision making.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Sponsors are probably skittish about the lack of vision and other investment from Haas' side. Might be played out with the F1 team come 2024. I wouldn't be surprised if Moneygram skip town soon.

@TheDerperado 4 месяца назад

-If you participate in the worlds most expensive sport, it's gonna be expensive. -If you can't afford to be successful, you are not going to be successful. Is this something Gene hasn't still understood?

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

It started off pretty solid but they needed to evolve the model further after that...they didn't. For Gene it worked once so why change it?

@katashworth41 4 месяца назад

It’s going to be a fun interview with Guenther at Autosport in the morning.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

From what I have heard, it's certainly intriguing.

@sirsancti5504 4 месяца назад

I'm no expert. At all! But whenever I hear/read about some boss/politician talking about "optimize" (or something along the lines of "spend less to do the same or even more work") it is business-talk to sell/privatize the company..

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Agreed. It feels off to me.

@kondjanegongo796 4 месяца назад

like stroll, logan, ericsson.... it was always they guys that are effective and actually doing something that left and had to make way instead of the loser

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

At least with Marcus he found his groove in Indycar.

@popoponinuninu1598 4 месяца назад

My fever dream is a top gear kinda show feauturing Binotto and Gunther

@TechOnyxOne 4 месяца назад

A recent article came up that Gene Haas have no plans to sell his team and he will be in F1 for 10+ years. so I'm quite concerned about haas future without investment.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

And just now he's snubbed the Reynolds consortium and let Alpine swoop in.

@ora5799 4 месяца назад

I think steiner had to go, the teams been floundering, the technical director that left cited a lack of motivation, he answered directly to gunther and they didnt want to "copy" the rb19, i think there is more issues simmering under the surface beyond a disagreement on how much funding the team needs to compete.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Yes, but to get rid of him altogether was too rash. Guenther is a draw for some people to make Haas relevant. He should've been reassigned.

@danked6731 4 месяца назад

Gunter is going to be the exact same case as Cyril Abiteboul. Cyril was crucial in getting drive to survive going and Gunter made it amazing. I'm sorry it's a very poor decision from Gene but I truly believe he thinks his brand is suffering under Gunter and that it's like a circus and he can't have it so I can see where he is coming from.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Yeah. Sponsors won't care about Haas at all now.

@danked6731 4 месяца назад

@@LawVS yeh tbh I just think he wants a yes man which in a way Gunter was but I believe he always had Gene and the race team first over everything else. You can only do so much with your hands tied behind your back

@BeastlyGamerr 4 месяца назад

Got back at the perfect time

@ANTONSV5 4 месяца назад

Guenter seems more like a head engineer than a tp to me. He was decent at bringing upgrades to Jaguar. His man management skills were poor imo. Anyway I didn't see about the new Williams re-brading, I like how they still respected the old era by keeping the "Claire" era logo as long as they did. But Doriltiron is different in a good way now and deserve their own identity.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

I feel Guenther is more like a great manager of people and ensuring they go where they need to go.

@ANTONSV5 4 месяца назад

@LawVS In some sense, yes. He did bring the employees together, but he was terrible when it came to driver conflict nextflix drama or not.

@shayzadg 4 месяца назад

Mick had 2 seasons to prove himself...i would not say he hot axed unfairly

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

2021 was a write-off and Mick was a whole minute over the egg. 2022 started off strong and yes he made mistakes but he made up for it later on by Silverstone...but then the car fell off and Mick couldn't make up for the earlier mistakes.

@ConfiUser3 4 месяца назад

Finally Steiner has been let go. It was about time. Although, yes, Haas has to thank him for lasting so long in F1, but after so many years of underdelivering considering the equipment they had (especially in 2019 and 2022), it was time to give someone else the chance. Especially in 2019, Haas had a very fast car, but they somehow still managed to finish in P9 of the championship. However, like we say in the German speaking room: The fish starts to stink at the head. Another big problem is Gene Haas himself. We have a cost cap, so it makes sense to go close to the cost cap. Of course, Haas' wish of being efficient is good and has to be followed even with a bigger budget. But if there is a chance, go to the limit. It will benefit everybody. Another problem is that everybody else is blamed, but Haas doesn't blame himself. In 2019 it was Rich Energy, in 2020 it was the drivers, in 2021 it was the car, in 2022 it was Schumacher and in 2023 it was Steiner. However, nothing helped and there were so many other problems that weren't adressed and that were not solved for years. The team still doesn't know how to setup a car that doesn't burn its tyres within 3 corners. The team still has many pit stop errors. The team still has many strange strategic decisions. Haas doesn't know where to improve the team and it seems he doesn't care either. You can't solve problems if you don't care what the problems are. I wish them the best of luck.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Yeah, it was bound to happen but at the same time it's sad to see happen.

@frankw8772 4 месяца назад

I hope to see Gunther S at Williams where the are empty Job seats and for him to work alongside James V. Ferrari could break the partnership with HASS instead, if the team doesn’t improve

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

I reckon Guenther will find a job in TV.

@omargraham8591 4 месяца назад

10:49 this is a very fair point…if they wanted to enhance/leveeage their ferrari connection mattia seems like a no brainer

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Well yes. Mattia didn't disgrace himself but Ferrari needed a change in direction and Fred was available. Mr Vasseur is a solid pair of hands; just what Ferrari needed. Mattia wasn't a natural TP but he did the best he could.

@DFSJR1203 4 месяца назад

HAAS is also part of Stewart / Haas NASCAR team. With that team he has left all the work with Tony Stewart. You very rarely see Gene doing anything at all.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Kinda like what he is doing with F1.

@bungieman2810 4 месяца назад

With Haas' NASCAR devision rebuilding, hopefully the same can happen for their F1 team before it's too late.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

I feel like NASCAR is probably Gene's baby more than the F1 team. The F1 team is a billboard.

@Reyrocksall 4 месяца назад

12:34 It's amazing how a phrase can make an accent sound American

@Alteringarts 4 месяца назад

Interest rate is pretty high these days, that could run up the borrowed capitals within the team. Tough time.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Yep.

@CharlesMiddleton-ms2ng 4 месяца назад

The one thing that most miss is the one thing that is most glaring; where did Gene Haas start from? NASCAR. Look at his entire history in stock car racing, all the way up to his partnership with Tony Stewart and beyond, and you will get a more clear insight of where this comes from. To those whom will say 'but F1 is different than NASCAR', that's not the point. It's where the mindset and the decisions originate that tell the story.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

I understand what you are saying. A boss is a boss; I just don't know much about NASCAR and felt unqualified to bring it into the conversation.

@dominicbarden4436 4 месяца назад

Everyone's assuming that Haas will sell in the future. I don't think it'll happen, he's had ample opportunity to do so over the last couple of years with Andretti looking for an entry. With the F1 team's troubles and Haas' troubles in the NASCAR Cup Series over the last couple of years (literally carried by Kevin Harvick in terms of drivers (Stewart-Haas Racing is a four-car team), and Tony Stewart's long-term interest in continuing his part-ownership of the team has been questioned, though I think that's quietened down a bit and SHR have put up some fighting talk ahead of the new season), Gene Haas is certainly having an interesting time right now.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Oh yeah, Gene won't sell. He wants all the returns to himself until he's good and ready.

@Jimbob-px6xx 4 месяца назад

I'm doing a haas career on f1 manager and I'm 6th place with 21 points and no upgrades

@ruudkooijman819 4 месяца назад

The whole consept of buying everything from Ferrari makes that they will never be more than a midfield tram. A new teammanager won't change that. And even if they change the concept, it will take years to build up the team to be competitive.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

They're riding the Ferrari coattails.

@Marbeary 4 месяца назад

I am curious what will the sponsor is thinking they got in because Guenther was popular and would ride along the fame of guenther and haas. They might not be winning but at least they get views of there brand when guenther does guenther things.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

I will be curious to see what happens with sponsors.

@deanmcauliffe2622 4 месяца назад

YES

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Yes indeed.

@benben3409 4 месяца назад

Honestly, if Haas had the same budget as all the other teams in their history, and also had had enough money to invest in their facilities, Haas would've been P4 in 2018, P5 in 2019 as they would've detected their issue far earlier, P8 in 2020, P4-6 in 2022 as they would've developed a better car pre-season and would've developed it throughout, and P7 in 2023. Plus, I think you'd criticize Guenther a lot less because, with the money, he'd actually have a plan for the future

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Yes as well as having more sustainable and less disruptive sponsorship. Rich Energy mucked them up good and proper.

@bobdevreeze4741 4 месяца назад

Gene Haas wants rolling billboards. Nothing else. No investment, no innovation. Just advertisement for his machine tools. I'll ask again . Michael Andretti is being held back because they dont think he can add to Formula 1. Please explain to me what Haas (been) is adding?

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

It's a shame considering there's three entities begging to be let in.

@svdlaan 4 месяца назад

Never understood what was in it for the Haas company business, which is making and selling CNC machines and tooling for the metalworking industry. Those products are sold by specialized sales people and bought by metal industry top managers, who don't care about marketing by publicity but only look at the price/performance bottom line for their investments. Main competitor companies from Europe and Asia (the names of which you've probably never heard) would never put money in a platform like F1, but instead sell their products through specialized channels, metal industry trade fairs, etc. The automotive industry, energy drinks producers and others have a totally different business motivation when they free up the necessary budgets to get maximum exposure in the F1 circus. So all I can think of it always was some sort of a hobby for Gene Haas, or just vanity.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

International exposure and Gene's constant desire to break into the Chinese market.

@henk4465 4 месяца назад

If you add the supplement on your travel insurance it is covered in usa

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

OK?

@henk4465 4 месяца назад

@@LawVS sorry tried to reply on the previous clip in my playlist 🫣

@sarathguttikonda4065 4 месяца назад

May be a partnership with Andretti will work or the team needs to be sold ?

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Gene would never partner with Andretti. There's beef.

@sarathguttikonda4065 4 месяца назад

@@LawVS What in the America undercover operation has been going on between them ? Something happened between them or Am i missing something ?

@sohamsengupta6470 4 месяца назад

Haas has the financial capacity of Williams circa 2021 combined with the administrative ability of Alpine in 2022 it would seem. What a situation.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

It is indeed a situation.

@raceingprodojy6989 4 месяца назад

I just need kmag to do well and jump to Williams and hulk to alfa so I can be done with haas

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Hulk has the Sauber ticket. As for Kevin, I think he'll go back to sports cars.

@katashworth41 4 месяца назад

I just hope Williams keep Alex and Logan, especially now the latter has his first season of working out the kinks under his belt. No, he’s not a future champion (I like the guy, but being realistic) but no-one should pass up a solid journeyman.

@carlaspinall7418 4 месяца назад

I never seen drive to survive as an f one fan🏎️

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Fair enough. It's not everybody's cup of tea.

@hawksenpai120 4 месяца назад

I hate to say this but i saw this coming the moment he announced hes starting a F1 team. Ive watched Nascar since 1999, and ive seen his team owning ability there. If it weren't for Tony Stewart, his team would be an after thought. Hes Running his F1 team worse then his old Nascar team. Im honestly surprised the teams been alive this long

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Guenther did enough to keep it running and the first few seasons were credible...then it fell apart thanks to shaky investment and a lack of development from 2019.

@hawksenpai120 4 месяца назад

@@LawVS okay, you have fair points. I forget they had some decent seasons. And honestly I feel like Guenther kept the team going.

@domformula1 4 месяца назад

Be honest with me here, long term F1 fan of three decades, Netflix subscriber for over a decade. I’ve never watched a single episode of Drive to Survive. Am I missing out?

@stephenbaxter3369 4 месяца назад

Yes!

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

I feel like it's worth watching, as a neat little additional to the season itself. It's edited to high heaven but it's a neat little interlude before the season starts. There are some good bits.

@MrPsychomonkey 4 месяца назад

Wind direction change

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

The tides they are a turning.

@MrDiggityaus 4 месяца назад

Conspiracy hat on but i sometimes wonder if behind the scenes Haas was approached by someone at the FIA to mediate a sale to Andretti pending F1’s decision about the 11th team. The conversation may have been about how Haas seems to be just “existing” due to his Gene’s apathy and backwards trajectory makes Haas the perfect target in FIA minds. This prompted Gene to seem like he is doing something proactive.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

I doubt it. Gene seems quite stubborn about selling. He won't allow outside investment since he can't be bothered with the oversight; hence why Ryan Reynolds was turned away, according to recent reports.

@jjh01harmon38 4 месяца назад

How many times HAAS Lawrence climbed up that ladder?

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

About 230+ times?

@MrPassy4u 4 месяца назад

Gunther: show me tha moooooneeeeey Gene!

@derekwbooker93 4 месяца назад

I vote Steiner come to Arrow Mclaren, or another team in indycar.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

I reckon he will head over to TV and become a pundit.

@connarcomstock161 4 месяца назад

inb4 Steiner winds up involved with the Ferrari WEC program

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

I reckon he will take 2024 off to get away from the toxic Haas environment.

@shubhankarmehta6669 4 месяца назад

IM SPEAKING AHEAD OF MYSELF BUT A NEW SUPPLIER SHOULD LOOK HAAS AS AN OPPURTUNITY TO MAKE AN ENTRY WOULD ALWAYS LOVE TO SEE A VARIANT REALITY IN WICH THE TEAM IS HAAS PORSCHE RACING

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Yes of course but Gene won't sell yet. F1 is still popular.

@utube321piotr 4 месяца назад

Haas CNC machines are a hobby shop level equipment. Gene Haas most likely looks at his F1 team the same way.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Ouch.

@williamdalgren7240 4 месяца назад

Rocketpoweredmohawke: - There has been som extraordinary knewz!!

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

It is, kinda. We never thought this would happen.

@adam346 4 месяца назад

expecting HAAS to pay TWO people to do effectively one job? I don't see it. It makes no real sense to get rid of him now unless HAAS believes that Gunther would be a road-block in selling the team... Gunther may have required more pay to work under a different owner or just made things more difficult overall because of his status and personality.. then it would be Andretti showing him the door and would have created a mild controversy to start off that acquisition. This way Andretti avoids the drama and gets the team with an engineer that can be placed back into his old role the second he has ownership.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

The thing is though is that Guenther's attention-grabbing personality was a draw for some sponsors and gave Haas some limelight...but with him gone entirely, it's an asset removed.

@adam346 4 месяца назад

@@LawVS he might have been an asset but he is and always will be attached to HAAS. It would be like if LeClerk went to any other team, it would be weird. I think it would be an active road-block for Andretti should they want to create Andretti F1 team... it would be like keeping Toto but calling it Porsche racing... sure, name recognition for Toto would be an asset but we would all still be calling it Mercedes Lite.

@williamwade7059 4 месяца назад

GENE invested $8 million OF HIS MONEY on the Austin upgrade and it didn't work, then Steiner wanted more money so he was shown the door. It's his team and he doesn't want investors telling him what to do. Let's see how this goes now that he's in charge.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

But Gene needs to be aware of the challenges of modern F1 and what the other rivals are doing and follow the herd or else he's gonna get left behind.

@DemonLordJunpei 4 месяца назад

I can agree and disagree on how Gene went about letting go of Gunther but let’s be honest Haas had one good sponsor that I have seen which was Rich Energy and they dropped the ball

@heydude23001 4 месяца назад

Good book to read about that, titled Racing With Rich Energy. That Rich Energy guy was a total con artist. Haas did (apparently) no vetting or very little. Also the book covers other shady motor sport sponsor stories. Good read

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Rich Energy wasn't good. At all. They didn't have the cash. Moneygram is legit.

@davidvasquez08 4 месяца назад

We’ll probably get to 50K before we get Andretti getting into F1

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

There's so much resistance to it, it's mad.

@hughjazz2890 4 месяца назад

Gene does have a point since his money and he'd need to invest millions. And with how he's been burned with previous sponsorship partners, I can understand his reluctance to let anyone else have direct control with his project. Gene feels if he has the correct people in the right positions the performance will improve. That's yet to be seen, but I still have hope. Gunther just wasn't going to accept the direction they were going so he did what he needed to do and leave. Gunther is a leader and wouldn't be happy being just a PR spokesman. And I wish Gunther the best. Will find out around the 4th or 5th race to see if this is the correct direction is the right decision.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

I have little sympathy regarding the sponsorship situation since a lack of research was done into their credibility.

@thomaswiker3471 3 месяца назад

I know this is idea but could a merger of Haas and andretti work

@Mytwistedvoices 4 месяца назад

Gunther was quickly removed, Gene didn't want him to grab contacts, change passwords, collect files. This isn't unusual.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Still sad to see happen like this.

@LarryFisherman742 4 месяца назад

I do think Guenther has a spot in f1 just not as the main and only guy maybe more of a zak brown kinda roll

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

I reckon he will be a pundit for TV.

@LarryFisherman742 4 месяца назад

@@LawVS I just started watching dts and now I see why he was loved by the fans

@craiggiffen6331 4 месяца назад

Nothing about Gene is surprising. Besides the fact that a team with his name is still on the grid. From the beginning, he claimed he would spend the money, but never did. He fully believed he would win because he had a successful Nascar team. Americans are brought up believing that because they're American, they can do anything.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

He believes that he can win races with no extra cash whilst the other teams around them are making use of extra investment and sponsorship.

@joshtheking1772 4 месяца назад

On a side note, i do think the team will enter a partnership for the 2025 season and in 2026 it will be outright bought. Thats how Gene works.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

I think that will be the last resort as having a team compete but F1 festidiously ignoring them will be very damaging to the credibility of the sport.

@stephenmac23 4 месяца назад

The only cool thing that has come from this is that we will now have a Japanese TP. Has that ever happened in F1 before?

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Yes! Aguri Suzuki for Super Aguri!

@randallellison6421 4 месяца назад

All I know is HAAS as a whole is a mess right now! I mentioned this in your previous video, things are not good on the NASCAR side either! In fact, the fans in that series is even starting to question HAAS' operations there as well, even going so far as to say as Stewart-HAAS ceasing to exist in just a couple of years! I mean its one thing for fans to question Gene's commitment in F1, but when NASCAR fans start questioning his operations, thats not good!

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

I feel Gene is close to retirement and packing it in and waiting for the right time to cash in.

@randallellison6421 4 месяца назад

@@LawVS maybe so, but that's not exactly the best way to go out on!

@shubhankarmehta6669 4 месяца назад

I THINK AYO OTHER THAN MANAGAING ENGENEERING SIDE ALSO WILL HAVE OBLIGATION TO CHASE INVESTORS BUT HAAS SHOULD PURSUE OTHER ENGINE SUPPLIERS (HONDA) TO FIT BEHIND HAAS BECAUSE CLEARLY I SEE A PATTERN THAT FERRARI CUSTOMERS DONT GET THAT SAME BENCHMAEK FERRARI ENGINE IF HAAS IS NOT SELIING TO ANDRETI THEN GET NEW INVESTORS AND RESTUCTURE THE ENTIRE CAR THERS STILL TIME TO MAKE SOME CHANGES..

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

I am unsure how Mr Komatsu will do with other things aside from engineering and I wish him well.

@tomcat7493 4 месяца назад

I wonder whats next for the steiner saga

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

TV.

@jaxusstormweaver2231 4 месяца назад

Ironically, Gene's not being efficient at all. This make or break it scenario is only going to serve to shuffle his senior staff cabinet and provide minor gains or not any at all. This year will be a trial by fire for the team. Won't be surprising if the performance falters more than before and the drivers + paddock staff start making plan Bs for employment following the end of the season. I know this comment is pessimistic but this does appear to be a very difficult issue to solve.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Indeed. They need to invest in the team and get motivated...this hiring from within doesn't feel right. No disrespect to Komatsu, but this is a very challenging task ahead of him.

@Julesabsent 4 месяца назад

I do like your content but your shots to Mike Kraack I have a little issue with it, because he has a difficult job trying to please his boss and that's maybe why his criticism of Lance aren't on point. Maybe your views are a bit under a McLaren and UK hat?

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Yes, I am a McLaren fan and I do make that clear in my videos to not show any ambiguity. The thing about Mike Krack is that he has made plenty of statements over the year that are simply not true and were there to cover for Lance without reading reality. However, I am not questioning his engineering background since he has had a successful career with BMW before Aston Martin.

@mrxbas 4 месяца назад

Missed opportunity for another Haas pun with “The End Haas Begun”… I don’t blame you for opting not to choose it after already doing one with the Steiner video, though :)

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Yeah I didn't want to overegg the pudding.

@hoomee7605 4 месяца назад

Since they are always blocking Andretti...let haas and Andretti either join up or pass it on. As for Gunter,. Bye. 👋 can join mick schumacher at the pub.

@dustinbulow4208 4 месяца назад

The redemption arc must continue, Law! You can bring Haas to glory!

@martinavery3979 4 месяца назад

PS the smart move would have been for Gene to stand aside & Gunther to take over the CEO role. He couldn't have made a bigger mess of the sponsorship side than Gene did. Add his personal popularity... Steiner can do the Zak Brown role very well, a hell of a lot better than Gene Haas

@stephenbaxter3369 4 месяца назад

Gene owns the team so he can hire and fire who he wants. Owning a racing team means finding a way to the top. That requires investment in both people and facilities. Teams that fail do not survive.

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

I don't think so. I think the better solution would be for someone on the outside, maybe Mattia to come in and manage the team with his Ferrari experience and engineering know-how and Guenther to be a manager of the crew which value his position.

@KayoMichiels 4 месяца назад

I wonder if Gene would pay Ayao Komatsu the same wage as Guenther Steiner.. or just pay his current wage... to safe on cost because Americans love their short term cost cutting!!!

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

Probably not. Cheaper and efficient.

@wordlesslfiddling 4 месяца назад

All of a sudden haas floundering on the nascar side makes a lot more sense Probably running that team very similarly and not getting much support from Tony Stewart any more Plus the mass sponsors exodus they've been experiencing lately

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

They've got some new sponsors but they're casino-related which isn't ideal.

@VeggehGaming 4 месяца назад

It's starting to sounds more and more like Gene is to Haas as Mike Ashley was to Newcastle United for that decade-and-a-half of pain. Not willing to invest and just coast on what he has while making money for the business he actually cares about. God, I hope this isn't the case. That's a horrid scenario for everyone. The rest of the staff most of all... I still feel it was right for Gunter to lose his role as Team Principal. He'd overseen too many poor business decisions and as the TP the buck ultimately stopped with him but perhaps you're right. Maybe a demotion, if Gunther would've accepted it, to a slightly downgraded management role would've been the better solution. My perception of Haas was that Gene actually cared about the team a I'm pretty sure he's had his hands in other racing categories in the US? So that's played into my thought processes as to how I valued Gunther. Now, that might be changing. I've probably been too harsh on Gunther. I guess we'll see how things play out. But it's not looking great...

@LawVS 4 месяца назад

It's certainly seeming so. Like Gene wants to milk the F1 teats as long as possible for his business and has no real intention to compete in F1 or read the trends of his competitors.