A slightly unhinged recap of the first 50 years of Spider-Man. twitter: / lexlennen insta: / alexlennen Issues: Amazing Spider-Man 1-700 (and a bunch of other stuff)
For those who missed the message at the end - this video directly leads into my Superior Spider-Man video. If you get confused at the end, go watch that video next. At some point I’ll update this video, covering the post-Secret Wars era of Spider-Man and beyond. Also I still don't know what happened in Spencer's run and quite frankly I don't think he did either, so I'll probably make a separate video on it as well.
Hey just wanted to say the video was incredible and well told and made me tear up at the end when you explained the impact of the end of Peter Parker's story.
Any chance you can cover on Guy Gardner's Warrior series? It's really underrated series since he's well known being Green Lantern, But Guy's ring began to alternate because of his interference with Hal Jordan's Parallax. He got this new suit, which he never liked and this began new series for him just for temporary and he went back being Green Lantern.
The funniest thing about the Kindred arc is that I've yet to see an accurate summery of what happend because the story contradicts itself and everything else every issue by the end. Hell I've seen people assume events incorrectly because that would be the coherent explanation. So if you do make that video, I highly recommend double checking the details and presenting it as is rather than trying to present it coherently. It's an experience.
That’s because Morbius is a really interesting and cool Spider-Man villain. I’m not joking. He could be a horrifying villain and have a good backstory but instead we get that movie. I think everyone knows the movie I’m talking about .
I like that when Jameson learned Peter Parker is Spider-Man, he instantly did a 180. "If Peter Parker is Spider-Man, then Spider-Man is a hero." Simply out of his sheer respect for Peter as a person.
"Aunt May is just a frail old lady that could be taken out by a paper airplane", "Peter gets bit by a spider, Uncle Ben gets bit by a bullet" this guy makes better scripts for characters than the comics do.
@@Itariatan No. Comics are just selling less because the generations have moved on from physical media. The comics that sell are sold by collectors to collectors, the same people who were into it ages ago.
To me, Spider-Man's greatest nemesis isn't Doc Ock, it's not Venom and it's not The Green Goblin It's a bunch of Marvel editors who are going through a bitter mid-life crisis
I understand how a mid-life crisis could create an "abandoning your family to go back in time to high school" story arc. But what kind of crisis do you have to have to write a "Peter is sleeping with my daughter" story arc?
exactly. the original clone saga of the 1970s, the ben railiy clone saga, sins past,one more day were like the worst storylines ever especially sins past. also I think even though john romita sr was the greatest spiderman writer with giving masterpiece storylines I think he never understood what peter, gwen and aunt may actually were and ended up destroying them as well. peter:from an awkward outsider to a mysterious yet most popular guy. gwen: from being wanted by every guy for her beauty and high science intellect to just a lover girl with absolute no character development. aunt may: from being an motherly figure for peter to being a woman who forces peter to get married to mj and gets herself almost married to doc ock. honestly, despite how much sony interfered in tasm series I can easily say that they ended up capturing peter,gwen and aunt may way better than any comic writer ever did.(except steve ditko)
@@hundredpercentjuice well if they could make gwen have children with norman and then make peter kiss sarah stacy in sins past then you never know. also sins past was supposed to have sarah and gabriel stacy to be the children of peter and gwen instead of whatever we got because of marvel so I think we cannot blame the writer completely. there is a reason why dc has waaaaaaay better comics than marvel.
Also I'm pretty sure the One More Day storyline with Mephisto brought him back to his youth, maybe not a full reset, but far enough to bring Harry back and completely erase his marriage with MJ.
It’s basically “Simpson’s Time” where nothing ever progresses and it’s mostly just sliding the timescale forward progressively. So in the same way Homer somehow both watched Empire Strikes Back with Marge in their 30’s and was in high school when Phantom Menace came out; characters like Punisher have been in the Vietnam War, Gulf War and Iraq War at varying points for their origin story It’s a bit messy
Mary Jane having seen him coming out of his room as Spider-Man would explain why she was so patient with him for years when anyone else would have dumped him as a boyfriend. She knew he had things to do that were genuinely more important than being on time to a date.
@@marchdarkenotp3346no. In the 80s MJ tells Peter she knew he was Spider-Man there was no evidence that she knew. Then in a book called "Untold Tales of Spider-Man" written in the late 90s, it shows a scene taken place during the high school years where she sees Peter in costume leaving his house. Meaning she knew he was Spidey before they actualy met. Which is BS.
Wow early Spidey stories were so dynamic and interesting. The characters actually growing and evolving. It's nuts that peter and mj are just married with no annoying bullshit separating them.
@@troyschuler186That's when I stopped. Right to the point where they brought back Aunt May from the dead, and the one who died was revealed to be a lookalike. They really knew how to cheapen things.
@@poeterritory I remember that well. I was disappointed when it was revealed to be Aunt May since the story gave me the impression that it was Peter's daughter. It would have lined up well with the Spider-Girl comic series introduced in the late nineties.
To clarify a thing about Kraven's last hunt that this video isn't clear about - Kraven shot Spider-man with knockout gas or someshit, and then buried him alive. Peter did not literally come back from the dead through sheer force of will. Not that specific time, anyway.
@@jk-nz9bq My headcanon is that it's a clone with Pete's memories. The entire thing about the Ultimate Universe up until that point was that death matters
I like the fact that a major plot line is caused because of the fact that Doc Ock is just a normal dude. He managed to fight literal superhumans and gods solely because he has extra long arms.
@@Latitz "That should keep him out of commission for a Week while he stays in the Hospital recovering from Impact." -Mark Greyson taking Otto Octavius seriously
I had a spiderman themed party when I was a kid around 8yo and I caught the guy who dressed up as spiderman in my laundry room changing and knew he wasn't spiderman but still pretended he was so he didn't feel like he ruined my b-day. The guy didn't see me when I walked in cause he was facing the other way. Honestly, the whole thing is fuzzy since it was 10 ish years ago but it is still one of the most wholesome memories I have as a kid. Makes me happy makes me smile.
Seeing how spider man evolved is heartwarming but it also made me see how the only big flaw in the story is how the editors of marvel always wanted him to keep being spider man of the neighborhood and not the spider man as he ages and grows. Even watching the video I can see how the history and years of story telling being constantly rebooted or reset can be tiring but there are a few good gems in because of it
Well, since Miles Morales is becoming more popular, as well as Mayday becoming a thing due to the movie, I think they can actually have Peter live a happy life, while having both Miles and Mayday as the main spider people. I just the man to have a happy life.
Mayday was a thing long before the movie. There were several versions of her before the movie: The teenage brunette Mayday, the redheaded Annie-May, and Claire.
I'm not a comic guy, so this video was the first real experience I had learning the "full story" of Spider-Man, even if it's only one iteration of him. That said, I honestly feel like I got close to tears learning about that ending with Peter dying. Complete news to me, that is totally wild and extremely sad.
@@realperson9951 he was psychically linked with Otto, so after a while they could communicate, then he became the dominant personality. Pretty sure thats it anyway
I think it's cool, during the early years of Spider-man the comics had an actual continuity, while Batman and Superman were both basically still random hijinks at the time.
38:45 I AM SO GLAD YOU SAID THIS. One More Day made me sick. Everyone acted so out of character, and since this story I haven't really been able to read much of Spider-Man comics since then... The early 2000s Spider-Man was just so, so good and mature and built on so many years of lore.
As someone rather unfamiliar with comics I must say I found hilarious the lengths JJ is willing to reach fueled by his hate of Spiderman. Bad press is a thing, but having an ongoing series of murder robots is a new level of hate.
it's sper inconsistent over the years lmao, there is a what if story where he does go to prison and stuff tho but lately it's seen in a more sympathetic light since he thinks that spiderman should be held accountable and once he finds out that it's peter he usually tries to help him
@@pickleodessey8452 it amazes me that he still has credibility after sending so many spider slayers on Spider-Man and even makes a supervillain in scorpion.
@@SeseOB2003 Yeah, also I hope we get Scorpion in Tom Hollands Spider Man 4, but I don’t think JJJ should be involved since Scorpion is already a criminal and can just brake out of the prison from Homecoming
I do love how far the idea of Spiderman and Peter Parker is pushed. A LOT of the dynamics Spiderman has are mainly focused on the idea of how people look at him and how they look at Peter. Jamason likes Peter, hates Spiderman Flash hates Peter, LOVES Spiderman Aunt May loves Peter, neutral on Spiderman And the public kind of shows this in full force, when Spiderman does something wrong he's lambasted by Jamason and everyone who hates him. When he does something truly amazing you'll see Flash there to compliment him. But Aunt May is kind of the outlier that matters MOST. Since when SHE compliments Spiderman despite how little she cares you know he did something truly good. It's almost like a dopamine hit with how each of the characters are used. At the end of a comic we see them there, telling us how the general community feels about Spiderman, whether bad or good.
I find it extremely hilarious that sm kept a cloth version of the black suit just for the drip and so incredibly sweet that what makes him give it up is a response to his wife's trauma. Really progressive for its time
Although I am a bit disappointed that you didn't cover the Superior Spider-Man era and the years after it in this video, the fact that you plan to cover it in the future plus the sheer amount of content you covered in this video is one hell of a feat. Eagerly awaiting the next Spidey video!
I actually was going to put an explanation at the end about how Superior deserves to be its own video + Spencer's run is too fresh rn, but my iMovie project physically wouldn't let me at that point
@@alexlennen Superior Spider-Man, while having some of Slott's usual questionable antics, was overall really good, so I can't wait to see you cover it. Otto is a really interesting Spider-Man, but Superior Spider-Man also shows why Peter Parker is the definitive Spider-Man, no shade at others like Miles or Miguel. When we think of Spider-Man, the first thing that comes to mind is Peter, and Superior Spider-Man showed us why, especially in its ending. P.S. I'm still kinda pissed that the writers made Otto make a deal with Mephisto to turn him back into a villain again... like, wtf... if Venom can be a full blown hero and have his own Avengers-level crossover event, why can't Otto...
@@runbaa9285 Wasn't the ending a bit rushed in conclusion due to the Marvel's need of getting Peter back before ASM2 came into cinemas? For me the conflict was resolved too artificially when Otto just give up all of the sudden any attempts to find other solutions for the problem while it was shown very easy for Peter to defeat Osborn - all it needed is stand in front of Green Goblin for him to abandon all plans of taking down New York!
The one thing that will always bug me about Superior is the portrayal of Peter's supporting cast, especially MJ. How did MJ of all people not know what was going on with Peter? This is the same person that knew someone was posing as Spider-Man during KLH and beat the crap out of Chameleon after he tried disguising himself as Peter. Her characterization is everything that despise about post-OMD stories featuring her, aside from Spencer's run.
@alexlennen 00:32 - Season 1: Origins, high school, Betty Brandt, the Sinister Six 05:24 - Season 2: College, Gwen Stacy, Norman Osborne Green Goblin 09:16 - Season 3: Mary Jane Watson, Captain Stacy, amnesia, the Death of Gwen Stacy 14:06 - Season 4: Dating Mary Jane, Harry Osborne Green Goblin, college graduation 17:52 - Season 5: Dating Black Cat, black suit/symbiote, marrying Mary Jane 21:42 - Season 6: Kraven the Hunter, Eddie Brock/Venom 25:19 - Season 7: Carnage, the return of Harry Green Goblin 28:19 - Season 8: The Clone Saga 31:56 - Season 9: Civil War 38:46 - Season 10: One More Day 41:14 - Reboot Season 1: Mr. Negative, Mayor Jameson, Mac Gargan Venom, Anti-Venom 43:34 - Reboot Season 2: Doc Ock's bots, The Rhino, The Lizard, Kraven The Hunter resurrection 46:58 - Reboot Season 3: Agent Venom, the Spider Slayer army 50:15 - Reboot Season 4: The Future Foundation, the Jackal, the Spider Queen, Spider-Island 56:11 - Reboot Season 5: Doc Ock's global warming scheme, The Sinister Six Part II, Silver Sable 1:00:36 - Reboot Season 6: The Lizard, The Superior Spider-Man build-up
23:55 It's worth taking note that Spider Man didnt revealed Eddie's fraudulent jornalism, Eddie was legit, he simply made a report on someone who accused himself of being a certain villain while he wasnt, so when Spider Man actually revealed who the villain was, Eddie was fired for lying in the press. Eddie was good but a series of misunderstandings led to this
you're right, what I meant by fraudulent was that he simply wrote an article that turned out to be a lie, regardless of his intentions. So fraudulent wasn't the right word for it, I think
I love how much you can date the earlier issues by how peter's face is structured - a lot more wide and robust, given that was closer to the beauty standards of the time.
I stopped reading Spider-Man by the mid-90's, so it's was good to see this to get the gap filled in as to what happened after. Even though my comic collection has been in storage for years, I enjoyed the look back at the years when I was a fan. Really took me back and more than once I got a tear in my ear watching this.
I always assumed that all of these different Spider-Man stories were all separate takes on the character, and when something incredibly horrible happened in one Spider-Man comic that it’s okay, because there’s always another status quoe Spider-Man around. That is still true, and there are always other comic runs of spider man with similar backstory’s, movie Spider-Man and video game Spider-Man, all with their own story’s that pick and choose certain aspects of the character and the world to make their own unique story and world. But seeing these story’s connected and strung all together is truly something else
You can always try to wrap your head on the thought that all other Spiders are just taking part in this storyline, but in another universe. Or tou can just ignore it, like I do.
@@dude9318 Definitely not a dumb question, it can be hard to follow! But in this video yes, it follows the same Peter (with the exception of the whole clone swap thing.)
@@dude9318 Yes, this is the original Spider-Man, the one that is going since 1963. Also know as Spider-Man 616, is the first one and every other media was based on his comics.
Not even being hyperbolic, you have become one of my favorite comic book youtubers. The passion you give off in your videos are infectious. The quality in your videos are up there with Comics Explained, Comicstorian, ComicTropes and Casually Comics (some of my favorite comic RU-vidrs) Always looking forward to a new vid, fantastic work in every single upload.
I never finished Amazing spider man, at some point I got tired of the same villains returning over and over again. This video was very helpful at refreshing my memories and learning the way Peter eventually died made my heart sink. He deserved better.
I like how the different writers that took over the story are just having trouble deciding if the story will be a "Spider-man story" or a "Peter Parker story."
Not sure if you are a father Alex but you are on point: a still born is one of the most devastating things an expecting parent can go through. I never understood it until my wife and I had a still born. Thanks for that small nod to one of life’s most difficult seasons.
My parents had a still born before my mother got pregnant with my big brother. And yes. Even if like 27 years had been passed since that incident happened, they are still really sad about it...
I just like how morbius just randomly shows up every 30 years , morbs up shit, then leaves. Also I’ve used Morbin so much that my phone auto generates it.
This just showed me how close the Spectacular Spider Man TV Show followed the source material and how much of a crime it is that it got canned in 2 seasons the first 20-30 minutes of the video feels like describing the show and what it was setting up
The 90s animated series also followed a lot of the source material to the point that I thought Spectacular Spiderman and the Raimi films were just ripping off the 90s series lol
When Peter asks himself while in otto's body "what did I do to deserve this?" I couldn't help but think about how he made a deal with the devil at the end of the day because of he fails to make the right choice many times, and it's poetic he dies an unsung hero who kinda did sell his soul to the devil metaphorically bu bargaining with him in the first place. Also from a meta perspective it's sad how marvel forced their golden child to do such terrible things and to die so unceremoniously and yet it does add to the depth of the text regarding his entire publication history and life as a fictional character. My favorite character ever, and a great video!
This kind of mindset really bothers me. OMD was just bad writing, plain and simple. The idea of Peter making a deal with the devil is insane, and it shouldn't be in comics period, that's WHY it's bad writing. It bothers me because Peter literally died in ASM 700, and people used OMD as an excuse to justify it. He asked himself "What did I do to deserve this?", and in short, he didn't. Peter was a victim of Otto's plan to steal Peter's body and leave him for dead. There's no hidden meaning or moral ambiguity, Otto was just a criminal that got away with murdering someone using his own cancer-ridden body. I've seen friends and family members succumb to cancer over time, NO ONE deserves that. The fact that Slott weaponized cancer just to sell a comic book is disgusting, and people trying to argue that he deserved it after OMD is even worse.
I cannot explain how grateful I am for you job. It's amazing, man. All of that - your visual, your voice and storytelling, a hell amount of a study that you needed to do to make this video. Thanks a lot, I've read only about 150 volumes of Amazing Spider-Man, but I knew that this is a kinda mess sometimes, so I didn't have any hope to finish them. But you did an amazing job, just wow
14:40 that cut to “Gwen is back?” Was so priceless, perfectly placed, poignant, all of the alliterative adjectives a marvel writer from the 70s would use. Truly tho, such an amazing video with an amazing narrator. You really tie everything together so well and make it constantly entertaining to the viewer. Mad respect.
I never realized how faithful spectacular spiderman was to original comic, which after watching the first part of this video has made me miss and appreciate it even more. The spiderman story has always been a favorite of mine not only because of Peter, but also because of the many characters he is able to interact with. The villains, heroes, friends, and even sometimes just the people he saves all have some form of relatability to them which is just incredible to me.
Marvel's Spider-Man is pretty comic accurate too. Unfortunately it's based on the dogshit Dan Slott run. Luckily it's much, much better than the actual run
Spectacular proved to me that comic book media deserves animation more than live action, Don't get me wrong, I love alot of the live action stuff, but the comic book style is the long running story arc in little bite sized things each week, month. whatever.
This video is absolutely amazing! I came back from watching the recent Spiderverse movie and my curiosity on Spiderman had peeked. I knew that Wikipedias wouldn't be enough so this video helped a lot!
This video is so beautifully well made by summarizing the importance of peter's growth and all of who he is. I love the whittyness you added as well. Thank you for your effort and doing Spiderman and us a service.
Well, when his uncle is dead because of his persieved inaction, I'd argue Peter is Spider-Man because of (at least some form of)guilt. I view uncle Ben's death as a guiding principle and/or burden for him. Something that goes without saying. That's why he isn't constantly mentioning him in those early issues, because he really doesn't need to.
@@dante_0962 I take it as Ben always told him stuff similar to "great power, great responsibility", but Peter never really understood what he meant by it, and after his death, it clicked. And to add to that, I like to think for Peter, Ben was always just there for him, so the idea of losing someone that close because of you never really understanding what they were saying really gives a real tragic depth to the character.
I remember being 11 when Peter “died”. The way Otto’s decaying body looked scared me. I never got into comic books but because of the news of Peter dying I found comicstorian a channel all about comic book stories and from there i came all the way here. Time really flies.
I had the same experience, seeing what ock had been reduced to and Peter having to experience that inspired this morbid (ha) curiosity that lead me to read it more and many other comics
Wait that was your first (that didn’t get you into) comic, even if not it’s weird to think of a escenario where a kid and family that don’t know much about the storyline and anything and just have the friendly neighborhood Spider-Man and decide to buy him the latest comic which just so happened to be that one
31:56 That is why I wish Earth-616 Spider-Man had ended after "Final Chapter" storyline of Peter Parker - Spider-Man magazine; Peter got his aunt May back, he stopped being Spider-Man, and the Green Goblin was captured. And honestly, I feel an alternate timeline MC2 is better than Earth-616, because there, Peter got his lost daughter Mayday back, and she took her father's place of hero as the Spider-Girl.
Insanely good video of my second favorite super hero. Thank you for making this. I didn't know about a lot of the story in the modern era so all of that was news to me and a lot of the Spider-Man PS4 costumes make so much more sense to me now haha. I'm sure this took an immense amount of time and work. Sincerely, thank you for this. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
16:54 Doc Ock tried to marry Aunt May because she inherited a nuclear power plant from a distant relative in Canada. Hammerhead and Spider-Man ruined his plan by crashing the wedding and Hammerhead stupidly head butted the nuclear power plant’s control room, causing the whole base to explode. Spidey and Aunt May escaped, all the henchmen didn’t, Doc Ock survived by wrapping himself in his tentacles, and Hammerhead got temporarily turned into a spooky science ghost. Apparently nobody in Canada cared about the gigantic explosion or nuclear fallout, and everything went back to the status quo. 10/10 story :)
@@Yarblocosifilitico No, but that would've been funny! They had the wedding at a normal church, but since Spiderman and Hammerhead crashed the ceremony Doc Ock escaped on a helicopter with Aunt May to go to the nuclear reactor. The wedding wasn't even finished so it's not like Octavius had any legal right to the reactor, and the reactor wasn't heavily guarded either so god only knows why Octavius bothered with the wedding at all and didn't just take the reactor by force. Later comics would retcon it that Doc Ock actually had feelings for May, but at the time it was just some Bronze age comic weirdness.
The amount of work required to make this video is mind-boggling, huge props! I still remember when you did "What Makes Ultimate Spider-Man So Great?". I'm glad I found my way back here. Thank you for such a good video and I'm looking forward to seeing the rest I've missed.
I've read all of Spider-Man and this is a very good summary, only 3 parts I'm sad about is 1) no mention of hobgoblin, such a classic character 2) not enough robbie and tombstone (one of my favourite stories) 3) identity crisis saga and peter as scientist while he's off wit MJ during the clone saga deserved a small mention
@@sergioelsergio Morlun is indeed canon in the main series, the 616 Peter Parker is the first Spider-Man in the multiverse to canonically beat Morlun, twice
Hobgoblin is great. But none of his stories contain anything character defining. And only after Ned's death did it really involve Betty Brant. Roderick Kingsley was no Norman Osborne and thats a good thing. I did like how he handled his post Hobgoblin life though. One of the smarter villians in comics.
I've been saying this for years. Spectacular Spider-Man has been the most faithful adaptation Spider-Man has ever had and maybe ever will have. It is still such a shame that it will never come back. They had plans for I think two more seasons and a movie to end it off.
It was always weird to me that people debated whether it was the fall or the webbing that killed Gwen. Imagine if he hadn't webbed her and people were debating whether it was the fall or the ground that killed her.
Agreed, it has such a timeless style. The bright colors, thick shading, and simply colored backgrounds make it feel almost surreal, like the images are ripped directly from someone’s imagination
I’m at the 16 minute mark rn and if this was all fully adapted into an animated or live action series it would be wild and much bigger than the flash show for sure
This is already a masterpiece. Haven't even watched it. Just finished the video. Alex your content is amazing great job dude. Keep up the great work. Can't wait for what's next for you.
@@thekodex1186 The X-Men have so much history through dozens of different series and thousands of characters over 6 different destroyed and retconned timelines and alternate futures and 9 lives of moira x and etc that it would take infinitely longer than this video. The avengers are similar but not quite as complex bcs the avengers are a team made of other characters from other series' whereas the X-Men is a team of original characters meaning that the history of the avengers is the history of the team while the history of the x-men is the history of pretty much everything that has ever happened to mutants ever over millennia
Keep up the good work man. Your entire body of work is actually insane but in a good way. I haven’t watched a video of yours that I haven’t enjoyed and to have that experience every single time is actually just phenomenal. Can’t wait to see what the next video will be
As much as goblin is considered spidermans greatest foe and arch nemesis, I've always thought that the role is more appropriate for otto octavius, especially given the superior spiderman storyline, and even in other media, he's so close to peter that I feel as though he deserves the title FAR more
As I step into this video, I am excited to experience someone's perspective on my favorite fictional character. He's always taught me different lessons on responsibility and doing the right thing, learning that I do not need to be perfect and I just need to try my best. He even teaches me to deal with self hate in stories like Gwen's death and even his time in Daredevil. I know that you probs won't see this lol but I think that his life has many stages with of course the 60s and his high school time with if this be my destiny and his transition into college life with Gwen when he meets Harry and MJ and Flash Thompson leaving. Then as we near the late 60s, George Stacy dies. And with the iconic story of Norman getting his Goblin side back, comes ASM 121 the death of Gwen Stacy. After that is the iconic first clone saga and many wacky adventures with the new people taking up the Goblin roles. MJ and Peter get together before breaking up and we near the 80s with Roger Stern's run focusing on Peter's life more and his more down to earth nature where he doesn't have much. Nearing the mid to late 80s is one of my favorites, the development of MJ's and Peter's relationship. It works so well and warms my heart. The disaster of the 90s with its clone saga and at 1999 comes JMS to save the day with one of the best Spider-Man runs. Fuck Slott I ain't talking about him. After that is Spencer's spectacular run which brings new life and soul into the character. My top 3 are JMS, his time with MJ and the Romita stuff. Some other runner ups are his time with Roger Stern, Ditko and Spencer. This is my personal experience with Spider-Man 616 and it's nice to see another passionate fan of the comics. Btw, I have a cgc graded 5.5 first full face appearance of Mary Jane AKA ASM 42 because I really enjoy MJ as a character.
@@alexlennen He's that one guy that unites all Spider-Man fans in their dislike for him haha. But jokes aside I do understand growing up with this comics, while I never read it myself my cousin would often hang out with me and describe Slott's run so in some weird way I experienced Slott's run as a wee 6 year old lad.
@@dennisconnors2178 I can't really say that I enjoyed his run necessarily, I'd say I love 1/4 of it, like half of the ideas, and then utterly despise all of the rest of it. So it's quite the mixed bag but I would say overall I do like it decent enough
I want to mention early in this video it is said that Peter can never tell Betty Brant he is Spider-man because she blames him for her brothers death, but during the Civil War comic, decades later, when Peter's identity is revealed she is one of the few people supporting him. Character growth.
1:10:30 While the Green Goblin or Carnage are often compared to The Joker, it's Doc Ock who _is_ Spider-Man's Joker. He is Spider-Man's antithesis. A scientist, a man who has loved and lost, who has struggled, who has shown indomitable will, who always gets back up when knocked down, a man who combined his unnatural gifts with science to become his greatest self, but unlike Peter he was guided by the philosophy that with great power comes the responsibility of others to worship it. He's that guy who _didn't_ solve climate change. He's the absolute perfect choice to mantle Spider-Man in a meaningful way. The other Spider-Men are ultimately variations on a theme. Ock is the antithesis learning to become Spider-Man.
I couldn’t have said that better myself. Doc Ock’s my absolute favorite and after seeing Alfred Molina portray him in Spider-Man 2 and No Way Home, I have no doubt that he is Spider-Man/Peter Parker’s tragic archenemy.
@@pyropulseIXXI I was quoting the storyline where he becomes Spider-Man. He captures Peter through a scheme where he promises to solve climate change. It turns out he _does_ have the tech he promised, but he's just not going to release it out of bitterness that his legacy was meaningless. It's a punishment for humanity, "I could save you but you didn't worship me". Peter mocks him as the guy who didn't solve climate change. He steals Peter's body to steal his legacy and make it his own, trying to get that worship, but when he steals Peter's body he automatically gains Peter's memories and thus becomes a bit of an amalgam of them and becomes an anti-hero.
@@snowcrow8784 what do you mean this how can you solve something that is a naturally occurring event the climate changes it's been changing for billions of years with or without us it will continue to change how can you solve that
Wait no that’s not how peters character dies. He does get his body back and they’re still making spiderman comics. This isn’t the entire history. Doc oc realized he can’t defeat Norman Osborn in a later issue, he then submits the last bit of connection he has to Peters subconscious effectively killing doc oc and resurrecting Peter.
As someone who’s always been addicted to Spider-Man, watching all his movies and buying his merch I always wanted to learn more about him but I have never read the comics. Learning more about his backstory is intriguing and is why I stayed up till 1:25 AM to watch this video.
You should try going to a comic store and buying some random old back issues, it's a really fun experience to just peek into what was going on in the story 40 years ago and occasionally you'll find some really neat stuff
That was awesome, so much I didn't know that I understand clearly now The final end to the original Spider-Man honestly hurts and slightly upsets me, I know exactly what you mean in the end but part of me still feels that Peter didn't deserve that ending, feels fucked I love Spider-Man, man
Straczynski's run is so underrated, esp due to editorial mandates messing with everything. When it was good, I think it was my favorite era of the character. I would have loved to see what he would have done with Spidey if allowed to write the story exactly as he wanted.
I love the exact moment when Spider-Man's history stops being about a normal guy going through normal things while also being a superhero and starts revolving around clones, the Devil-adjacent, and how he is the fulcrum by which the multiverse rests, and if he were to perish, the universe would along with him. World outside your window.
For the same reason they keep regressing it back to being in high school because they think kids would look up to someone around their age group more than a grown ass adult. Of course all that is complete BS but that´s their logic.
Between working at a Newspaper and his Rogue's gallery where you are actually meant to sympathize with his villains Spiderman kind of feels like a fusion of Spiderman and Batman, and I guess the Romance comics of the time
