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The EPA HATES This Rare Muscle Car - The 1973-1974 Pontiac Trans Am Super Duty 455 

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In this Rare Cars documentary, we go deep into one of the rarest and most exciting cars to ever roll of the Pontiac assembly line, the 1973 to 1974 Trans Am Super Duty 455. These ultra rare Trans Ams are in many ways the final muscle car of the initial muscle car era. Against all odds these cars defied the crazy emissions standards of the day and still were able to put down serious power when no one else could.
Learn all there is to know about the Pontiac Trans Am SD455 in episode 28 of our documentary series on the world's most fascinating cars.
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@xpatsteve
@xpatsteve Год назад
I've always been more of a Mustang guy but the 1973 S/D 455 Trans Am has always been one of my favorite cars. And the turned-aluminum dashboard is my all-time favorite of any car.
@CaptainFritz
@CaptainFritz Год назад
I remember the first time l saw one of those dash boards .It was cool .
@michaelroberts6450
@michaelroberts6450 Год назад
These cars were a product of their time, took an emission strangled low compression 455 and retooled it into something that wasn't supposed to happen. Thanks Pontiac motor division for a really great car.
@michaelking1869
@michaelking1869 Год назад
I don’t think it’s a thanks. That’s the engine they should have used in general and not in a special option super low production package. When you make a better engine you produce it and not just treat it like it’s an Uber expensive bit of iron like it was. If they had made that much effort in 1970 before the compression drop they made have made a statement. This says we weren’t willing to really try. Same reason it wasn’t in the GTO for those years.
@michaelroberts6450
@michaelroberts6450 Год назад
The sd455 was developed as an unleaded fuel only engine from it's design inception. It couldn't run higher compression because of the severe spark knock with a points based distributor at higher compression ratio. When Delco developed the electronic ignition in '73 that helped all divisions for unleaded based fuel engines. Yes it was limited and pricey but at least it was available to buy. They knew that lead based fuels were going to be regulated out so they did what they could to give a performance engine to the trans-am. If they had done this in 1970 with the existing Ram air3 engine, it would have taken away from sales because of cost like you were saying. Forged engine components cost compared to cast nodular iron components. That's why they offered over the ram air4 in '70, it served the exact same purpose as the sd455 did on '73. For the upgrade you had to pay. Thanks for your opinion.
@michaelking1869
@michaelking1869 Год назад
@@michaelroberts6450 the hand assembled engine with forged parts wasn’t needed. At the power level they were at those parts were a joke. A base L75 short block could have taken the massive 290hp without a problem. The compression didn’t need to be that low, but it wasn’t important. In 1970 would have been the time to make the effort for the SD455 at 10.5:1 compression or more. The distributor was not a cause for spark knock. In the end the effort to make the engine for 73/74 was cool, but a bit late and lazy. While there wasn’t much else going on it doesn’t make one thing great. Being the strongest at a nursing home isn’t first prize.
@michaelroberts6450
@michaelroberts6450 Год назад
@@michaelking1869 the unleaded fuel was the cause for spark knock issues at higher compression ratio because of the lower octane change.
@michaelking1869
@michaelking1869 Год назад
@@michaelroberts6450 all of the updated engines from the big 3 were being designed for the lower octane fuel coming as well as unleaded. The lead helps with the octane and the valve seats. Of course the SD was built to be run on lower octane fuel. It was built and designed for life after 1970. The compression was common to be lower than listed and most were made that low to keep Nox emissions down. The SD should have been made the same or similar in 1970 with much higher compression and the originally intended camshaft instead of doing this they waited and built the SD455 for 73/74. Time and sheer laziness kept it in the F-body only and only pride made them release a 290hp 456 cubic inch engine (never actually was a 455) as a super rare special option. It was so awesome that only some 250 or so were built for the public in the first year. Not many after either. I’m not saying it was all crap, but certainly not exciting. Everything about the car was what it was capable of if…
@ZairAttredes
@ZairAttredes Год назад
I have a 1973 SD 455 4,-speed that l paid $5000 for in 1991. It had 23k miles and was garage kept by it's 78 year old retired GM employee. It was for sale for over a year because no one paid that kind of money for an old Firebird. It now has 87k miles and looks almost new. It has most of it's original paint, not known for quality materials the dash, door panels, console and headliner all have been replaced. As mentioned in the video it has the Ram Air 3 cam, head work, headers and Borla exhaust vintage air and Wildwood brakes. My other cars are old Italian sports cars which l love but the old bird will hold it's own against any of them
@rarecars3336
@rarecars3336 Год назад
Wow that is awesome that you have one, sounds like a sweet collection you have!
@johnross6314
@johnross6314 Год назад
Zair congrats… was your built in California, or Norwood Ohio? SD owner here.
@opera93
@opera93 11 месяцев назад
Thanks… a Treasure…yes , Build Quality…I ordered , “”a 77 TA/ SE/ Hurst Hatches/ **loaded /6.6,etc. :”” in late Oct,1976::: & ZIEBARTED:: (* probably waste, though noise Reduction,etc)), interestingly, (* &*before SMOKEY/ Bandit melodrama), we did get some 16-17 years FAMILY/ high mileage use….though lot of upgrades….& dollars, as was my dream new car,etc. The SALVAGE YARD, GAVE me $100.00 to haul away(* WARSAW INDIANA): the SNOWFLAKE GOLD RIMS probably worth more then also( 2023,
@99TL1000S
@99TL1000S 2 месяца назад
Wow, thats sounds so Wonderful. Did you raise compression much? What does it do on a dyno? :-)
@99TL1000S
@99TL1000S 2 месяца назад
Was it a bucket of rust ? :-(
@jrsmith1008
@jrsmith1008 Год назад
That's OK I hate the EPA, an unconstitutional, bureaucratic, non regulated, form of tyrannical, government overreach, illegal operation, that should be disolved at once
@alansloan7784
@alansloan7784 Год назад
Agreed. FTEPA!
@jeffreyrubish347
@jeffreyrubish347 Год назад
When I was in High School a guy in our small town of 5,000 had a white SD 455 I used to see cruising. I hope it's still out there somewhere.
@Allrone
@Allrone 2 месяца назад
I had a 73 Formula SD 455 that I had factory ordered in the fall of 72 after I had read about the car and engine. I ordered everything except all the 'bird' stuff. A long wait, then removed the restrictor plate the day I brought it home. The SD455 motor upcharge was only about $600. The motor, lowest gears, and HD suspension = fun to drive!
@chawenhalo0089
@chawenhalo0089 Год назад
Absolutely love this car. This is when manufacturers still had balls and not run by marketeers. Thanks for the car history lesson. We don't get all these intricate details in Europe, so a big thank you.
@rarecars3336
@rarecars3336 Год назад
Exactly, just car guys doing what they do best which was making fast cars!
@flinch622
@flinch622 Год назад
Like many things... blame Nixon. As government started to build cars by mandate [notice the omission of engineer], things got more and more stupid. Marketeers? The EPA couldn't run a sandwich shop for a year that provided both flavor and showed a profit.
@timomomomo969
@timomomomo969 Год назад
@@flinch622 by this time the marketeers were in full swing
@chawenhalo0089
@chawenhalo0089 Год назад
@@timomomomo969 when it's not marketing killing a car's potential, it's regulations. It's worse this side of the pond.
@timomomomo969
@timomomomo969 Год назад
@@chawenhalo0089 Marketing is what built the auto industry. The industry did it brilliantly in the 60s and 70s by drawing upon youth with a great range of colors and names. But I hear you, the bean-counters ruin all the fun.
@cogboy302
@cogboy302 Год назад
I'm in the UK. American muscle cars aren't exactly common over here, but from 1996 - 2005 I had a '76 T-top, 4 speed manual Trans Am. Originally it had a smog 455, but somewhere along the line it acquired a spicy '73 400 motor. I wish I still had it.
@Sheisthedevilyouknowwho-ft9we
Sounds like it was a lot more fun to drive than my '80 Turbo Trans Am 😅 although the handling (ws6) & 4 wheel disc brakes on a car that old was out of this world
@velocity5918
@velocity5918 Год назад
Got a 76 T/A, no 455 in any 76 models.Biggest on 76 was a 400 But I did build a 455 and installed the Super Duty Ram Air 3 exhaust manifolds good for12 more HP the same as tube heads with out the plug wire problems of tube headers.
@justme307
@justme307 Год назад
@@velocity5918 The 455 was available mid-year 1975 thru 1976. It put out 200 Net HP both years. It was the regular 455 that was available in any full-size Pontiac.
@MrDrbullock
@MrDrbullock Год назад
​@@velocity5918 76 had a 455 also. 1263 of them
@velocity5918
@velocity5918 Год назад
@@MrDrbullock Yes, I miss spoke, they had very low po 455's, never acknowledged them and pretty much concidered the 400 as the true go to block, sorry. But I must ad the 76 400 ci. T/A I restored did come with a lo po 455 swapped into it which I blueprinted into a very bottom end torgue engine, it's just that the 76 model 455 was never really worth mentioning, just a bad end to a once great engine aka: 455 SD 455 HO 455 HD and then the dismal last edition boat anchor.
@markbeiser
@markbeiser Год назад
When I was 6 in 1974 my grandmother bought one, it was a hideous lime green, with a green interior(she actually ordered it that way). When I was 10 she gave it to my mother, who sold it 2 years later. I always hated the way it looked! I'd love to have that car now.
@jrsmith1008
@jrsmith1008 Год назад
The F bodies might be little rough by today's standards but they were a lot of fun especially with manual transmissions, I loved my 79 Z28
@vannjunkin8041
@vannjunkin8041 Год назад
Love the F body cars
@rrmcbride555
@rrmcbride555 Год назад
77 was when they made the cars light weight. my 74 trans am was thick steel and heavy. 1979 was a great year.
@redlight3932
@redlight3932 Год назад
Anything that isn't a insulated spaceship crossover is rough for the average person today
@jrsmith1008
@jrsmith1008 Год назад
@@redlight3932 Exactly! Now I own P71 Crown Vics, They are the newest " old car" you can get, no tech, firm suspension, a real "throwback" they are like the cars I drove when I was learning to drive, like my mom's 81 LTD also an old Cincinnati cop car
@redlight3932
@redlight3932 Год назад
@@jrsmith1008 I learned in a 2000 Galant and went to a Buick Apollo so comfort isn't on the top of my list
@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney
@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney Год назад
Man, that dark blue '73 Formula with poverty caps is one of the coolest looking cars I've ever seen, and I'm not a Pontiac guy at all.
@geoffhess2267
@geoffhess2267 Год назад
Yeah, thought the same as soon as I saw it!
@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney
@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney Год назад
@@geoffhess2267 I found it on an auction site, it sold for ninety grand recently, but they're super rare. I think a man could probably recreate it with non-original stuff for less than a quarter of that, and it'd probably be faster and handle and stop WAY better. It was in absolutely amazing shape, though, a real time capsule.
@johnross6314
@johnross6314 Год назад
When I had my SD, I knew a guy who had a Formula SD, with column shift. No power anything in the interior. Very rare. Midnight blue. I think maybe one of one. My Trans AM SD is midnight blue fully loaded options including original honeycombs.. Again rare based on the options.
@nucleargrizzly1776
@nucleargrizzly1776 10 месяцев назад
My dad had a 68 1/2 Firebird with the RAII. Poverty hubcaps, bench seat and zero options. The other guys never knew what hit 'em
@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney
@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney 10 месяцев назад
@@nucleargrizzly1776 Awesome. I love steelies with hubcaps on stuff that'll run. I had hubcaps on widened steel wheels on my 85 El Camino with 78 front sheetmetal (looks better to me), a .030-over 10.75:1 '68 Corvette 327 (later it got an 11:1 5.3L aluminum LS), a Tremec 5-speed, and a 3.89:1 Currie 9" with a TrueTrac. It was kinda loud, but if you were real fast (or a real dumbass, haha), it wasn't too intimidating. Miss that trucklet every day, I'll build another one one day. Nowadays, it'd be SLOW compared to actually fast stuff, but at like 2900 pounds and a fuzz over 400 horsepower in 2002 in a small-ish town in Appalachia it was PLENTY on the street. I'm honestly glad it was an El Camino and not a Regal, Cutlass, Malibu, Grand Prix, or Monte Carlo, that long wheelbase helped it not get out from under me, haha!
@Johnnycdrums
@Johnnycdrums Год назад
I love that green 73' at 0:55. A tractor motor was required. I'm a Ford guy, but I'd take Firebird over Camaro any day, especially the years you are talking about, 1973 + 1974.
@bendeleted9155
@bendeleted9155 Год назад
I remember when new cars switched to unleaded fuel and catalytic converters. That was when our interests shifted to Japanese cars, because regulations killed American cars overnight. Be very careful when you say, "There oughta be a law". They're doing it again, by the way.
@bendeleted9155
@bendeleted9155 Год назад
@@JoeMama-j7s it's on.
@daviddavidson4496
@daviddavidson4496 Год назад
@@JoeMama-j7s real ones never leave home w out a tinfoil condom on Remember, it's rude not to lick the butthole after you've licked the boots
@lqr824
@lqr824 Год назад
> regulations killed American cars overnight It wasn't regulations, it was the unions. Regulations now are 20x more strict than then and we make the fastest cars ever. And no regulation prevented Pontiac from doing in 1974 what import brands were doing, just a horrible greedy workforce.
@dewelrivera3305
@dewelrivera3305 Год назад
The real reason sales numbers dropped in '72 was the gas crisis and on top of that was the UAW strike in '72 which cut production of cars in the US that year. Shame that this was just skipped over in this video.
@jtc1964x
@jtc1964x Год назад
The Arab oil crisis was in 1973, not 72
@jamesbosworth4191
@jamesbosworth4191 Год назад
The gas crisis started in late 73, not 72.
@steverowe1728
@steverowe1728 4 месяца назад
Shame we live in a world where facts are over looked
@charlesdalton985
@charlesdalton985 3 месяца назад
Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly, but the 1972 strike impacted Vegas.
@AtropalArbaal-dk8jv
@AtropalArbaal-dk8jv Месяц назад
It was intentional. I support both. The gas crisis, because why should the only people getting rich, be the thieving companies. And the strike for the same reason.
@johnross6314
@johnross6314 Год назад
Rare Cars…. You are inaccurate in one area.. 290HP for 73 and 74 SD. This only applies to California built and sold vehicles. Mine has the 310HP, built in Norwood. Sold in Ohio. My cam/valves were confirmed. This has to do with emissions. Also my SD… stock internals, 1/4 IS 12.8 @113 at Kill-Kare dragway, (Ohio) on Goodyear NCT tires back in the day. What was done? Remove air plate, shut off EGR, slight distributor timing curve change, turbo 400 mild shift kit valving, slight rework of how the secondaries opened, remove/replace small portion of flattened exhaust piping. Once I found the factory (local installed) dry sump oil system, and installed, unofficial 1/4 time dropped by .5. The dry sump was worth est 40-60 wheel HP. Mine is automatic, no gear changes, loaded with all options. No lightweight. What is better than the straight line? The handling. The slight external uncorking of the motor, with the dry sump add 650 safe red line RPM.
@andyx2
@andyx2 Год назад
Still my favorite TA body-style even in '23.
@hendo337
@hendo337 Год назад
The only things that were close in '73 were the Boss 351, Buick 455 Stage 1, LS5 454 and the Mopar E86 440. By '74 there was even less competition in factory trim. It wasn't until the '78 EM1 360 Lil Red Express truck and the Pontiac W72 400 that performance began to pick up again. By 1980 and 1981 performance again hit an all time low with 305 Corvettes, 318s, Pontiac 301s, Olds 307s, the death of the Buick 350, weak knee'd blow through carburetted turbo Buick 3.8L V6s. Performance begain heating up again in 1985 with the 210hp 302 H/O Ford, 230hp L98 350 Corvette, Buick Grand Nationals.
@MichaelRoy-hc3lz
@MichaelRoy-hc3lz 7 месяцев назад
I have a 73 SD-455 4-speed that l bought in 1996 for $5000 which at that time was a premium price but the car only had 48k miles and was a one owner garage kept car. At 70k miles l had the engine rebuilt with a more aggressive cam, higher compression pistons and head work. Nothing super radical but it still dynoed at 412 hp at the crank. That along with 373 rear gears transformed it from a quick car to a total beast. I've had to get some interior work done and have had it's dark green paint refurbished but it still wears about 60% of it's original paint. For having that huge heavy engine up front the car handles surprisingly well and is fun to hustle through twisty back roads. I have a collection of mostly older ltalian exotics which l love to drive but the old Pontiac gives up no performance to any of them.
@sergiojacquez2277
@sergiojacquez2277 Месяц назад
I’ll take the T/A with the SD-455 over anything else!
@michaelmiranda8926
@michaelmiranda8926 Год назад
Everyone is talking horsepower, but the torque numbers were crazy good on these SD 455 cars.... maybe 450 ft-lbs of torque. Torque is what separated American muscle from anything else! Also having an M22 rockcrusher trans and you were hard to beat.
@rarecars3336
@rarecars3336 Год назад
I agree most people care about power numbers but Torque makes all the difference when it comes to how the car feels power delivery wise.
@lqr824
@lqr824 Год назад
Not really. Transmissions multiply torque. A smaller, higher-revving engine is just as torquey at the wheels as a huge low-revver. You need to go figure out how gears work before spouting this nonsense.
@jamesbosworth4191
@jamesbosworth4191 Год назад
@@lqr824 But the torqueyer engine will FEEL faster, and will be faster off the line. The smaller high-rev engine requires you do more work to get the most out of it.
@chadhaire1711
@chadhaire1711 Год назад
450 bullshit......hahahahahhahaha
@enerrivers4392
@enerrivers4392 Год назад
Actually it was 390lbft but SAE NET. Which was outstanding for da time.
@JohnGood-fz3vm
@JohnGood-fz3vm Год назад
According to one of the Performance Mags. at the time, IF you put High-Compression Pistons in that engine, it would put out about 500 hp! There would be NOTHING at the time that could touch it on the street, except High-End Exotics that aren't practical to drive on the street. As a Gearhead, I wished for one of these, so I could have "the Fastest Car on the Street"! 🥰🤠
@hilleryclifford1350
@hilleryclifford1350 Год назад
You wouldn’t have wanted to run into me with my 71 Z/28 with an LS6 454, we swapped out the cam for the road race 600/600 and went hunting hemis so I never worried or got challenged by one of the overweight ponchos
@joequillun7790
@joequillun7790 Год назад
@@hilleryclifford1350 God, 50 yrs later, and I still hear this crap. Some kids never grow up.
@williamfoster9039
@williamfoster9039 Год назад
​@@joequillun7790Ok, yeah, maybe try running again a 70-73 Baldwin Motion Phase 3 Camaro and see what happens!!😁🛠️
@joequillun7790
@joequillun7790 Год назад
@@williamfoster9039 Sure, now you're comparing a stock 73-74 T/A against a professionally modified car. Well, Ill see your Motion car, and raise you a Royal Oak prepared, 68 FB, with a modified 428, that ran 10s. Or do you even know about Ace Wilson's garage?
@dannydennis318
@dannydennis318 11 месяцев назад
This is true on the 500 horsepower but you got to put compression back in it and the original Ram Air IV cam they intended.
@danhoyland142
@danhoyland142 Год назад
The 290 hp motor still had the Pontiac HO cam. Still something like 218/220 duration with 410. Lift. Not terrible and they use this cam in the standard 350hp 400 GTO and Firebird motors. It’s actually the same cam used in the 1971 455 HO motor.
@dannydennis318
@dannydennis318 Год назад
No actually the Super Duty had the Ram Air lll cam which was the next step up from 71-72 HO. Also the SD intake and heads flowed 10% better than HO. They just did a really really conservative horsepower rating on it. They rated it net horsepower at 4,000 RPMs but this is a 5700 RPM engine. The HO may not have had the super strong block and all that. But make no mistake that 455 HO was a good Street engine with a good torque curve and ran similar to the SD. HO cam 212°-225° RA lll 224°-236° RA IV 231°-241°
@nilla003
@nilla003 10 месяцев назад
@@dannydennis318 Compression ratio? 4:09, 8:4:1
@MrJohnnyDistortion
@MrJohnnyDistortion Год назад
70-73 were the best looking Trans Ams.
@Johnnyo1300
@Johnnyo1300 Год назад
The one that got away when I saw the thumbnail instantly took me back. Mine was the same color red 455 automatic, but it was the HO not DS and it was definitely a muscle car. I could only imagine trying to keep an SD in a straight line and anything with the shaker hood scoop. Well need I say more lol.
@fluffychicken383
@fluffychicken383 Год назад
290 hp was severely underrated.
@rrmcbride555
@rrmcbride555 Год назад
I had one. It was the most dangerous car you could imagine. If you floored it at 40mph it could spin off the road. I ran mine off the road alot. Just trying to pass a car could unleash a fury. It died when I let someone use it to go to the store and they spun off the road and rammed a bridge support. It cracked the block. That car could kill you . Mine was automatic and when it downshifted it went bazerk. The drone from the engine coming through the shaker hood when you floored it would vibrate the dash. It would have been safer with a manual trans. It was a widow maker. I'm lucky to be alive.
@maxpowerta3183
@maxpowerta3183 Год назад
😂The throttle pedal wasn't meant to be used as an "on" / "off" switch!
@johnross6314
@johnross6314 Год назад
Well, next time do not put on skinny Chevy Malibu bias ply off brand tires. SD IS NO widow maker. Coming from someone who owns one. But.. you are correct.. It needs to be in a proper drivers hands.
@AnnatarTheMaia
@AnnatarTheMaia Год назад
Damn, I wasn't gonna take my manual transmission supercharged V8 to work tomorrow but now I'ma gonna!
@Bass_Playa_Two_Point.O
@Bass_Playa_Two_Point.O 11 месяцев назад
I had a '71 455 H.O. with the M22. It was a fun, fast, and, for it's time, a very well-balanced car. Beautiful, too.
@JonandMarleneSchade
@JonandMarleneSchade 8 месяцев назад
I also had a 71 455 H.O. GTO. It had a TH400 though. Bulletproof. Dearly miss it. My friend had a 72 455 GTO with an M22. Love that first gear whine. Sounded like a blower in first. Thanks for the post. It brought back great memories that we could never recreate.
@Sheisthedevilyouknowwho-ft9we
The SD-455 was a near racing engine with a provision for dry sump oiling, forged rods, among special other features like Super Duty only exhaust manifolds. I believe the heads were developed by working with AiResearch, they flow like few other factory produced cars ever. It goes back to their not well publicized racing engine program in the late 60s, like chevy, ford,and mopar had, such as the Ram Air V, or the 303 that they didn't get ready in time before GM told their divisions they were getting out of the 5 liter & under trans am racing series. The block is very similar to a NASCAR 366 block they were working on as well. Pete McCarthy put out a book in about 1989 that goes into detail about Pontiac V8s, especially the ones that were high performance, even these racing program engines. From what I read years ago, GM really didn't want to let Pontiac put out this engine, the high performance era sort of ended in 1970 or 1972 depending on your criteria. But from what I understand, the tooling was ready, the blocks, heads, intakes, exhaust manifolds, rods, that were all unique to the Super Duty 455 had been in development for years, so the tooling was ready to crank them out. The 455 H.O. which had many of it's own unique parts was sunset in 1972. It reads like or sounds like the engineers or whomever, at Pontiac basically begged "please, please let us build this & get it out into the public, please,this would be so cool." That what I get from decades of collecting a lot of Pontiac literature. Story goes, you could drive it off the lot, just put slicks on, (no need to swap headers in), take it to the strip and run deep into the 13s at 104 mph
@drippinglass
@drippinglass Год назад
A “race” engine would have a forged crankshaft.
@Sheisthedevilyouknowwho-ft9we
@@drippinglass you make a good point, forged crank. Probably why whenever I read about or saw sd455 on tv they referred to it as a "near" racing engine. Possibly a reason they didn't make forged cranks, I got my hands on hundreds of HPP & Pont.Enth. magazines over the last 30 years. I know I read more than once that dyed in the wool Pontiac engines builders talk about their crankshaft. They were labeled as Arma-Steel, no they were not forged, but some Pontiac guys said, you don't need one, I've never seen or heard of a Pontiac crankshaft breaking. (Something like that) but I do understand your point
@drippinglass
@drippinglass Год назад
@@Sheisthedevilyouknowwho-ft9we I think my problem is… my two muscle cars that I got back in 80’s for nothing compared to today are 440 Six Pack Mopars. A good high performance package, but all 440’s up til ‘74 had the same forged crankshafts. Chrysler could only afford to build one, so they put the good one in everything. I think the last forged Pontiac crank was in the SD 421 back in ‘63.
@drippinglass
@drippinglass Год назад
@@Sheisthedevilyouknowwho-ft9we Btw… arma steel is still hot poured metal. A forging is a hot blank that is pressed into shape. Better density, and no porosity.
@Sheisthedevilyouknowwho-ft9we
@@drippinglass 👍
@robertchristie9434
@robertchristie9434 Год назад
I have a fond place in my heart for the SD455. In '78 I beat one at a stoplight race on Metro parkway outside of Detroit with my L88 '68 Vette. I think the SD was a '73 that had some serious emissions stuff in it did not help. Back then, folks would remove the emissions stuff, reset the timing & pull the plugs out of the base of the carburetor to reset the fuel to air mixture for better performance. The oil companies were lowering the octane in premium gas & switching to unleaded didn't help. 106 racing fuel was crazy expensive also.
@onazram1
@onazram1 Год назад
You'd be able to retire on that L-88 Vette alone now....
@robertchristie9434
@robertchristie9434 Год назад
The L88 wasn't stock. It had a '73 front clip, a '72 rear clip, cross-wire mags, L60-15 GT radials. Hooker headers & a 1050 CFM Holley double pumper on an Edelbrock hi-rise manifold. Back then to return it to stock would have cost a small fortune & I had other priorities like a wife & raising kids.@@onazram1
@markmcfarling
@markmcfarling 8 месяцев назад
Retire?? Only if you didnt plan on living for more than a couple years.
@briantracy1324
@briantracy1324 Год назад
After mentioning the EPA in the video title I''m surprised there's no mention that Pontiac was heavily fined by the EPA for the 73 SD455 and had to change them in 74... Pontiac had installed a delay device in the EGR vacuum control system so it ran for only a minute or so and then was cut off .. just long enough to pass the tests at startup.
@joealleva582
@joealleva582 Год назад
I was waiting for that to come out my dad worked for Pontiac since 1963 and they were very performance driven his buddy at the dealer had 63 389 tempest and I think my dad said he had put on a 421 but I'm not sure if I remember straight my dad is passed on now but the love of Pontiac and hi performance cars was not what my dad ment to have rubed into my make up but I thank him every day for working for such proud and classy division of the greatest car company of the 50 60 and 70s. So goes GM so goes the world as my realatoves used to say about the once mighty company. And you execs that ran this once proud and great company should hang your heads in shame for what you did to this fabled company and what you idiodicly did to my beloved Pontiac . I am stepping outside to spit on he ground at the mere bought of you fools. JOSEPH ALLEVA
@Sheisthedevilyouknowwho-ft9we
😅 I was looking to see if anyone would say this.....I did not know about the fine part.
@Sheisthedevilyouknowwho-ft9we
@@joealleva582 I agree with you 100 %. Also got my love for Pontiac from my dad, & it's moreso in me. I believe I read from Bob Lutz who was at GM at the time, when they needed that big loan from the Gov't 2009 or so (?) That the Obama administration told GM if they wanted the $$$, they had to discontinue Pontiac. That was the same about Saab, Hummer (Sold it ?,) killing off Saturn,etc. Its Obama's fault. And keeping Buick not Pontiac was ridiculous. Buick , before and after the bailout, doesn't sell much in the U.S., mostly China. Pontiac was still selling well here. Thanks Barack
@analogkid4557
@analogkid4557 Год назад
It wouldn't matter anyway. The EGR doesn't work at WOT.
@jamesbosworth4191
@jamesbosworth4191 Год назад
I hate EGR. When my mother complained about her new 1979 Mercury not having any power, I plugged the vacuum line to the EGR with a little BB. Way better part-throttle performance. True, not much different at full throttle, but we don't normally for extended periods of time at full throttle
@ljmorris6496
@ljmorris6496 Год назад
Don't forget about the big UAW strike in '72 that affected Firebird production, it wasn't because nobody wanted one...
@lesheath6216
@lesheath6216 Год назад
Nothing prettier than the Brewster Green 73 SDs
@bendeleted9155
@bendeleted9155 Год назад
Love that raked '70s Charger. Brings back memories.
@9Apilot
@9Apilot Год назад
I think the sales slump of 71-72 had to do with the UAW and them targeting the Norwood assembly plant. You can’t sell what you don’t build.
@elisabethkolling6697
@elisabethkolling6697 Год назад
Right. There was a long strike in 1972, and that's what killed sales - not lack of demand for the cars. Thousands of 1972 base bodies had to be destroyed because they were unable to use them for 1973, due to a change in bumper regulations.
@johnross6314
@johnross6314 Год назад
☝🏻 what you say is true. I was there in those days. And own a SD built in Norwood. I have separate comment about mine… if you’re want to read. BTW, union thieves at motor plant (and parts suppliers) when they went back to work for 73 model year kept stealing SD pistons, rods, and got a few SD cranks and heads.
@davidpistek6241
@davidpistek6241 Год назад
F bodies didn't have power like that for another 20 years from the lt1 and the early 2nd gen f bodies are things of beauty even 74 to 81 dealt with the bumper regulations with grace instead of the bridge girder I had on my 78 nova great video again
@duanenicpon8024
@duanenicpon8024 6 месяцев назад
You forgot the W72...very impressive for its time rated at 220hp really was 260 when dynode..I know I have a 79 W72 25k mile survivor
@w41duvernay
@w41duvernay Год назад
Thanks for the SD engine being made, GM also made extra rods. GM had to limit to customers the forged rods to 2 per customers, due to Factory workers stealing the rods.
@rarecars3336
@rarecars3336 Год назад
Lol that is hilarious
@davewil3
@davewil3 3 месяца назад
I still have my Admiral Blue 1974 SD-455. I purchased used in 1974 for $4500 with just 1000 miles on it. Current milage is just 23K.
@74SD455TA
@74SD455TA 2 месяца назад
Beautiful thing. I too have one which I had to have and bought in 2009. It too has 23K documented miles on it. Long live! Pontiac Rules!
@thomascardillo7099
@thomascardillo7099 Год назад
The UAW strike had a lot to do with the low numbers for 1972. Not a single car was built for 22 days. I think everybody's numbers were down for 1972.
@joequillun7790
@joequillun7790 Год назад
That would be the Norwood plant.
@thomascardillo7099
@thomascardillo7099 Год назад
@@joequillun7790 Right
@djh3_88hinskey5
@djh3_88hinskey5 Год назад
My buddy worked in a Pontiac dealership at the time. If I remember he said that this was the first engine with a torque to yield bolts.
@Sheisthedevilyouknowwho-ft9we
If you search online : valve cover decal super duty 455 pontiac 👍
@velocity5918
@velocity5918 Год назад
​@@Sheisthedevilyouknowwho-ft9weYou can buy perfect T/A Decals in all the exact color combinations. Shaker decals were 400 455 455 SD 455 HO 455 HD. I HAVE A FULLY RESTORED 76 SILVER (of course) with a very built low end torgue engine, borg warrner 'rock crusher' 4 speed with the factory hurst aluminim t handle shifter.I decided upon the 455 HD Shaker decale since I'm makin a whole lot more HP than the original 455HD did. Scatter shield, 2 drive shaft loops aluminum Ram Air 3 exhaust manifolds, 1981 10 bolt.Disk Brake rear, 2nd gen Snow Flake rims (the better version). Looks good parked next to my Silver 2002 WS6. IN 1976 I paid a mere $5,300.00 for a 350 C.I. (Chevrolet engine, Pontiac never produced any 350 block engines) new wonder color of the year FIRETHORN RED, White interior with red carpeting, auto matiç. Never once rolled up to a chick and said " hop in I can give ya a ride" and got shot down!
@michaelmahoney8887
@michaelmahoney8887 Год назад
That SD 455 Firebird is a beautiful sleeper! 😍 Keep bringing these almost forgotten classics!
@chawenhalo0089
@chawenhalo0089 Год назад
This looks fast as F just sitting still!
@thomascardillo7099
@thomascardillo7099 Год назад
I don't think you could call a car with flares, spoilers & a massive screamning chicken on the hood a sleeper.
@rarecars3336
@rarecars3336 Год назад
The formula SD455s would be the real sleepers!@@thomascardillo7099
@velocity5918
@velocity5918 Год назад
​@@thomascardillo7099Can't stand the people that say "SCREAMING CHICKEN"about the Phoniex decal! FORD THINDER BIRD was the Screaming Chicken....LEGENDARY PONTIAC FIREBIRD TRANS AM HAD WHAT WE ALL CALL THE "SCREAMING EAGLE" I HAVE A SILVER 76 T/A AND ALSO A SILVER 2002 T/A WS6, THE WS6 IS THE HIGHEST QUALITY CAR EVER BUILT IN IT'S PRICE RANGE, WHY THE PONTIAC DESIGN STUDIO NEVER PUT THE "Eagle" ON THE HOOD WAS A HUGE MISTAKE, IT COULD HAVE BEEN MODIFIED TO FIT THE DUAL SNORKEL HOOD AND CONTINUE THE HISTORIC HOOD EMBLEM aka: BEST DECAL EVER IN AMERICA AUTO HISTORY!!
@velocity5918
@velocity5918 Год назад
​@@rarecars3336DO YOU KNOW WHAT "SLEEPER" ACTUALLY MEANS? YOU CAN'T HAVE A SLEEPER THAT LOOKS LIKE A ROAD COURSE RACE CAR, A SLEEPER IS A PLÁNE JANE GROCERY GETTER LIKE MOM'S CAR WITH NO PERORMANCE MODS VISIBLE TO THE EYE. THE LEGENDARY 'Ram Chargers' OF MOPARS DESIGN STUDIO ACTUALLY GOT THE BIG WIGS AT CHRYSLER TO SELL WHAT I THINK I REMEMBER WAS PLAIN LOOKING DODGE DART WITH A 426 HEMI, THE CAR HAD A TINY 2 1/2 " BADGE ON THE FRONT FENDER BEHIND THE WHEEL WELL THAT SAID 'HEMI' TJAT WAS ALL...REAL STREET RACERS OF THAT TIME BOUGHT THESE RACE READY CARS, POPPED OFF THE HEMI BADGE AND WENT LOOKING FOR CHEVELLS, CORVETTS AND MUSTANGS!! THAT IS WHAT IS KNOWN AS A 'SLEEPER'. STRAIGHT FROM THE DEALERSHIP.
@CasperthefriendlyG10T
@CasperthefriendlyG10T Год назад
Sales were down in 1972 because GM was on strike
@garysmith8455
@garysmith8455 Год назад
Ok, I will be 71 at the end of this year. I was quite in the mix when these cars were released. I worked at an Olds dealer at the time (1973). The EXXON fuel station next door had a woman attending that business at the time. She bought a brand new '73 SD in RED. I fell in love with that car right away. I had a brand new '73 Olds Omega custom ordered with the 350 and Q-Jet. Could not afford the auto, so I got bench seats and 3 speed manual. I really wanted a 442, but, at the time, the Olds 455 was only in the mid 200 hp. range. Ended up with a '68 442 only 7 years old, but needed a restoration and I got laughed at by everyone because it was during the GAS CRUNCH, but I KNEW the supercar era would be a mark in auto history down the road and proceeded onward. I had a great time with it for nearly 12 years.... Many cars later................... I am a long time FORD guy, and now have a MINT 1997 SHO that I have owned 25 years now. UNrestored and needs nothing (low miles). Love taking to the car shows and turning heads because there are very few left, being a true limited production. Many attendees, ESPECIALLY the young ones, never heard of a Taurus with a V8 ! I DO find it interesting, that my TINY 207 cid. V8 makes only about 55 hp. LESS that the honkin' SD's 455 ((O: will out handle the Firebird and also run over 140 mph (FACT!) with it's OEM Z rated tires! Amazing what the tech from now, 26 years ago was producing and meeting emissions at the same time! Nearest competition at the time was the Pontiac GTP, but Pontiac had to mount a BLOWER on the top of a larger 3.8 v6 to make 5 hp more then the SHO. It is all fascinating auto history when you have lived through the days of the muscle cars first hand. Thank you for this presentation. (O:
@rarecars3336
@rarecars3336 Год назад
My favorite part about making these videos is hearing about the stories people have with the video topic cars back in the day, so thank you for sharing!
@rexspangler4641
@rexspangler4641 Год назад
Although I'm a ford fan, I still like these old firebirds.its just a reminder of how it used to back in the early days of musclecars:OH yeah and by the way,I like anything the EPA hates, Long live the musclecars!!
@nathanromeo7018
@nathanromeo7018 Год назад
Wasn’t the sales drop due to the strike in 72
@jamesbosworth4191
@jamesbosworth4191 Год назад
Yes.
@dzim8822
@dzim8822 Год назад
Just swap the heads and cam and up the compression to about 10:1 and you'd be easily putting down over 400 hp to the wheels. In comparison, you can get a modern 454 LSX crate engine that makes over 600 hp out of the box. Ironically, nowadays these cars are so old that they are usually exempt from emissions, even in California.
@flea4061
@flea4061 Год назад
I had a 73 SD-455. It had 10,000 miles on it in 1999 when a UPS truck T boned it.
@cogboy302
@cogboy302 Год назад
Well, that sucks.
@jamesbosworth4191
@jamesbosworth4191 Год назад
What a shame. Bet you wanted to do something illegal to him!
@ouimetco
@ouimetco Год назад
EPA has done a great job….world is burning to the ground. The parts that are not flooded that is.
@jamesbosworth4191
@jamesbosworth4191 Год назад
More true than most people realize. They don't realize that the catalytic converter, while sharply reducing poisonous carbon MOnoxide, sharply INCREASES non-poisonous but heat trapping carbon DIoxide.
@JBsC6
@JBsC6 Год назад
We couldn’t afford the insurance back in the day much less the car. I owned a worked 350 69 firebird convertible in the mid 1970s and couldn’t afford the awesome 455SD trans am. We dreamed of owning one. ;)
@CHRISCRAZZ-t7w
@CHRISCRAZZ-t7w 3 месяца назад
Do you know what $100,000 isn’t that much money when you compare it to a new dodge ram or Chevy truck 100 grand make it make
@jjthefed
@jjthefed 11 месяцев назад
From 1975 to 1985 the only way you could get any power was to buy a super car or buy a limited production run car which usually had to be special ordered from participating dealers.
@NBC_NCO
@NBC_NCO Год назад
Pontiac was the first to develop a 3 valve. GM said...nope.
@mikecone4049
@mikecone4049 Год назад
I knew this one because the 3 inch book i obsessively read on the history of cars. This was the last listed as the last muscle car
@michaelyork4554
@michaelyork4554 11 месяцев назад
I Love the GTO front end, the '70 1/2 Firebird 400 had the same front end. I had a '79 black and gold TA with T tops, that didn't leak, for 6 years I loved it.
@CaptainFritz
@CaptainFritz Год назад
I bought a black and gold1976 455 trans am with a stock four speed in 1978.That was truly the last of its kind .l wished I would have held on to it,but I was an 18 year old kid ...and you know the rest of the story
@etoineschrdlu9382
@etoineschrdlu9382 Год назад
The '72-'73 sales slump was due to inflation, the recession, and the OPEC gas crisis, but the EPA regs did make those cars less desirable. Yes, the domestic auto industry was under attack on all fronts. It did not help that this was also the time when Japan was beginning to ship their light, simple, well made, and economical 4 cylinder cars which completely under cut the six cylinder base models of domestic manufacturers.
@jamesbosworth4191
@jamesbosworth4191 Год назад
The 73 cars sold in record numbers.
@jamesbosworth4191
@jamesbosworth4191 Год назад
And I would much rather have a 6 cylinder full-size car over a tiny 4 cylinder tin can. Might not be much faster, but at least it would be roomy and comfortable, and have a nice smooth ride.
@k00lkidz4
@k00lkidz4 Год назад
Could you make a video on the Pontiac Mera? It was a factory re-bodied Fiero that looked eerily similar to a Ferrari 308. Ferrari ended up suing pontiac in a large legal battle. I could even put you in touch with the president of the Mera Owners Club.
@lunsy9420
@lunsy9420 Год назад
Pontiac took them to a different company to change the body panels and other stuff. Pretty good looking car.
@k00lkidz4
@k00lkidz4 Год назад
@@lunsy9420 cooperate concepts were chosen to build the meras, but they were nevertheless sold officially through Pontiac dealerships
@lunsy9420
@lunsy9420 Год назад
@@k00lkidz4 yeah I read the Wikipedia page. A lot of specialty cars were rebuilt by other companies. Shelby, the McLaren Mustangs and countless others
@DanielLopez-me9mh
@DanielLopez-me9mh Год назад
Love the SD trans am now it's very suaght after today
@comjanatl
@comjanatl Год назад
best looking ta ever
@pinchnloaf
@pinchnloaf 8 месяцев назад
At least the 75-76 still had a 455, so cam and headers and you were rocking again
@rarecars3336
@rarecars3336 8 месяцев назад
that is my favorite bodystyle, 74-76 are so underrated for the TAs
@pinchnloaf
@pinchnloaf 8 месяцев назад
@@rarecars3336 and the birds in general. Everyone talks camaro but I almost always liked the bird better
@oriontikkit
@oriontikkit 5 месяцев назад
My dad used to have a 73, but had to sell it. I really did ding a ding dang my dang a long ling long
@scottlowell493
@scottlowell493 3 месяца назад
Lot of potential in this engine too. A few mods into the 12's.
@mikee2923
@mikee2923 Год назад
You left out the fact that the SD455 engine was supposed to be available in not only the F body but also the GTO, Grand Prix and the new for 73 Grand Am.
@joequillun7790
@joequillun7790 Год назад
I still have the 73 Hi-Performance Cars magazine, test driving the proto-type GTO. Would've been fun.
@barrylippard1846
@barrylippard1846 Год назад
I loved the grilles on the older T/A’s. Looks bossy.
@rarecars3336
@rarecars3336 Год назад
Totally agree, this generation of them looks great!
@jackduguid177
@jackduguid177 Год назад
A buddy of mine had a 1974 SD TA, it was pretty badass.. Oh, and the horsepower was rated at least 100 HP below actual..
@rarecars3336
@rarecars3336 Год назад
Yeah Pontiac was definitely playing some games with those HP ratings!
@jamesbosworth4191
@jamesbosworth4191 Год назад
@@rarecars3336 Pontiac was not the only one - the industry said that Net horsepower ratings were about 33% lower than gross ratings, but I have a Chilton manual for 1940 - 53 cars, and it shows Net for many of the cars in it, and that net rating is only about 12% lower than the gross rating. Allowed them to reduce the power year by year, but keep the published figures almost as high.
@markkimball1569
@markkimball1569 Год назад
I’d ❤ one of those. Had a 78 400 ! But this one had no bs or apologies on fast ! My friends mom had one a 75 formula 350.
@onekoneb
@onekoneb Год назад
That speedo at the end 😆
@runingblackbear
@runingblackbear Год назад
My 1973 Pontiac station wagon with a 455 would run neck to neck with firebirds
@rarecars3336
@rarecars3336 Год назад
The ultimate family hauler!
@TwoPair72
@TwoPair72 Год назад
Man, as always if I had the cash. Do a modern/retro build. Go back to “pre-emissions” setup, 6 or 8 speed and modern brakes. I can dream.
@rarecars3336
@rarecars3336 Год назад
Oh yeah the restomod builds are just so unbeatable. Old school feel with modern reliability
@roberthill2219
@roberthill2219 Год назад
Another great episode. Thank you.
@tomrodgers6629
@tomrodgers6629 Год назад
I have owned T/As most of my life. I had a 71 1/2 ( hexagon grill ) loved that car. This brings a lot of good memories back. Thank you.
@tomcrosby6332
@tomcrosby6332 Год назад
Anybody know what Trans Ams had the Chryler A 833 4 Speed? That's what I've heard.
@rarecars3336
@rarecars3336 Год назад
I am not sure to be honest but if thats true thats very neat
@colinerikstanhouse6385
@colinerikstanhouse6385 22 дня назад
I got a '74 TA, with 455.for my 16th birthday in '86. What a beast it was
@rarecars3336
@rarecars3336 20 дней назад
Wow that’s a sweet birthday present! Must have had a lot of fun with it
@skipsdarkhollowgarage8695
@skipsdarkhollowgarage8695 11 месяцев назад
Had a friend back in the 80's that had a white 73 455 TA, it was a Brute! hey @dakotastimeout2827 have you seen this?
@rarecars3336
@rarecars3336 11 месяцев назад
That would have been a sweet ride then! Does he still have it?
@skipsdarkhollowgarage8695
@skipsdarkhollowgarage8695 11 месяцев назад
@rarecars3336 No he blew the motor racing a 67 GTO, he forgot to shift to 3rd, sold the car to some brothers who restored it, I lost track of it.
@IkeHenry-p5u
@IkeHenry-p5u 11 месяцев назад
SD-455 last of the great ones!
@johnnywadd3020
@johnnywadd3020 Год назад
what is a BULKHEAD on a engine
@Ontariosound
@Ontariosound Год назад
There were a few of them around Toronto. Saw them in the early 80's as daily drivers in town. In 1989 there was a white 4 Speed (!!!!) 73 SD455 Trans Am for sale in the Auto Trader weekly newspaper. He was asking $13,500......... mint condition never winter driven.
@expeditionjay
@expeditionjay Год назад
Hey man, great video! I love the f body. I own a 88 trans am GTA hatchback, and a 99 Trans Am Firehawk. Both are awesome cars. This second gen looks so unapologetically awesome. It knows what it's about and doesn't care what others think. Awesome car
@mikedrown2721
@mikedrown2721 Год назад
I bought a new 1971 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 455 H.O. It had 335 horsepower. What are the differences between the HO and the SD? The SD had 310 horsepower..... I'm confused 🤔
@JohnGood-fz3vm
@JohnGood-fz3vm Год назад
Read my comment above.
@dewelrivera3305
@dewelrivera3305 Год назад
Net and gross sae ratings, heads were also different. The SD was also supposed to run a Holley four barrel carb not the Rochester that it ended up with.
@mikee2923
@mikee2923 Год назад
That’s because it wasn’t a Chevy. Only they were allowed to run Holleys, aluminum heads and forged internals in the GM stable.
@joequillun7790
@joequillun7790 Год назад
The 71 had a std block, and the 068, (tri-power cam), and 10% bigger intake ports than the std heads. The SD had the 744 cam, (RAIII), a much beefier block, and 10% bigger ports than the RAIV/71-72 HO heads.
@PatrickBaptist
@PatrickBaptist 3 месяца назад
If I just had 54cents for every time this dude says "super doodie" lol
@trainglen22
@trainglen22 Год назад
The Firebird Trans Am from 1973 was a fantastic car. Definitely a better value than the Corvette.
@hugehoglilnuts2905
@hugehoglilnuts2905 Год назад
Last stand of the classic muscle car. Who else could’ve delivered the end of the era than the group that started it all almost 10 years prior, Pontiac.
@jamesbosworth4191
@jamesbosworth4191 Год назад
Actually Chrysler started it in 55 with the 300 - solid lifter dual quad HEMI, semi cam. The term "Muscle Car" just hadn't been invented yet, and it was a full-sized car, not an intermediate.
@tl5108
@tl5108 Год назад
@@jamesbosworth4191im a Chrysler guy, but pontiac is who really kicked off the muscle car era and made it a big thing. I agree they didn’t make the first muscle car but they made the market
@jamesbosworth4191
@jamesbosworth4191 Год назад
@@tl5108 Exactly, they made that market, and big time.
@Bricklinsv1970
@Bricklinsv1970 Год назад
my favorite car of all time
@killiam2868
@killiam2868 Год назад
Can you do a vid about the 73 chevelle the first car shown? That's my #1 on the wish list
@RipRoaringGarage
@RipRoaringGarage Год назад
Ha, theres Bill's car! The yellow one he sold. Funny that the thumbnail is showing right now as up next from two years ago! I guess you watch Curious Cars too hehe.
@gregkistner1955
@gregkistner1955 Год назад
Such a amazing car ! 73-74 stuck to the EPA!!😁
@A2J_Tim
@A2J_Tim 10 месяцев назад
8.4 to 1 compression, wow, its perfect for a couple of big turbos, I bet that 455 could pump out 800 whp with very little boost.
@74SD455TA
@74SD455TA 10 месяцев назад
Yep, but if you actually had that original SD motor would you monkey with it like that? There aren't many of them left. You'd be better off going to Butler Engineering and spec out an SD build and put the turbo's on that.
@A2J_Tim
@A2J_Tim 10 месяцев назад
@@74SD455TA ya I would, its not like its a mopar worth zilions of dollars because its numbers matching.
@74SD455TA
@74SD455TA 10 месяцев назад
Do it!@@A2J_Tim
@74SD455TA
@74SD455TA 7 месяцев назад
Just know that SD's are almost entirely matching numbers or a Pontiac replacement SD motor if under warranty. They can keep the mopar ha ha. @@A2J_Tim
@CrazyBear65
@CrazyBear65 Год назад
Damn shame what Ralph Nader and the EPA and regulators did. Big Brother dictating how vehicles are made. Emmissions gadgets can be disabled easy enough to get some of your horsepower back that they stole, aftermarket cam, headers, bigger carb, better gears... All that can be modified, but it costs money, and Big Brother makes sure regular guys like us don't often have that kinda money. The shock-mounted bumpers, yeah, they sucked, and they made the cars look like Mussolini sticking his chin out, can't do much there but delete it. You don't need that extra weight on the quartermile anyways. Cut that mofo off of there. Now for driving in traffic? Then you want a 58 Buick Roadmaster, or maybe a Sherman tank.
@jamesbosworth4191
@jamesbosworth4191 Год назад
Here in California, at least in this part of it, you have to get a smog check every two years, unless your cars is a pre 75, so you would have to change everything back to stock for the test, then change it back the way you like it.
@skaldlouiscyphre2453
@skaldlouiscyphre2453 Год назад
Yeah, it's a real shame we started to give a shit about air pollution. Who needs air anyways?
@jamesbosworth4191
@jamesbosworth4191 Год назад
@@skaldlouiscyphre2453 Emissions limits started in 1968, (model year, not calander year), and have gotten stricter almost every year. ALL cars and 2WD 1/2 ton pickups of a given year have to meet the same emissions standard. ALL of them. It is a myth that small Japanese cars pollute less, unless you are talking about pre 1968 cars. Actually it is good that there are limits. People today are complaining about the smoky air due to all the forest fires, but they have forgotten that in the 70s and even early 80s, air quality on summer days was routinely like this. Normal air quality is much better now, but it also is a fact that the EPA and the radical environmentalists are biased against American-made cars.
@skaldlouiscyphre2453
@skaldlouiscyphre2453 Год назад
@@jamesbosworth4191 Of course they're biased against American made cars, some blowhard on the internet claimed it without proof. I guess I'm convinced now. 🤡
@derekcrymble9085
@derekcrymble9085 Год назад
I'd stack the Buick Grand Nationals up against that statement .
@umakemerandy3669
@umakemerandy3669 Год назад
Ill trade my 80 Z28 for the 73 formula trans am ❤❤
@DAT240Z72
@DAT240Z72 Месяц назад
Wish car manufacturers weren’t so fricken complacent with arbitrary EPA Rules today.
@richardtaylor1419
@richardtaylor1419 8 месяцев назад
In 1976 I test drove a 73 455 SD 4spd. I have been in love with them since. Wish I would have bought it. Couldn't justify the price then, can't afford them now.😢 Still my dream car.
@rarecars3336
@rarecars3336 8 месяцев назад
You gotta get one some day!
@glenmallory9982
@glenmallory9982 6 месяцев назад
Been reading some of the keyboard warriors below. Seeing how I’m an old fart whose good friend owned one for years I’ll add. Herb Adam’s had to fight GM management kicking and screaming to drag this engine into the car. GM had this rule:Thou shalt not be faster than Corvette. They kept changing parts from the original design to meet EPA regs, which themselves were changing. Add in labor issues and management pissing contests it’s no wonder what supposed to be a true big bore performance mill wound up being a torquey compromise. It’s the seventies. Hp fell off faster than cliff diving! Anything putting out 300 hp for 1974 was a rare sight. The 454 Vette wasn’t fast as compared to 4 years earlier. 250hp? If I remember right. This car was a threat to the GM rule. Remember 5.7 liter mills choking out 165 hp by the mid seventies. It was so bad that I know of a Scout SS2 with a free breathing 345 that beat a 76 350 Vette in the stop light Grand Prix! Trucks didn’t have catalytic converters yet so IH made free breathing dual pipes standard. No smog pumps in that engine either. Yes the SD is a Dino by today but that’s not a fair comparison. For the malaise era, it was memorable. That exhaust note has soul. We are so spoiled today by moms wagons having 300hp. But they sound like refrigerators.
@south_carolina_man
@south_carolina_man 4 месяца назад
My dad had a 1974 non-SD 455 TransAm for many years. He sold it when we moved to SC and expanded our family in 2001. The next year was the last Firebirds ever built and the price undoubtedly doubled. He says it would foul plugs, but it was indestructible.
@pmd467
@pmd467 Год назад
Umm, (Sir/Ma’am) ☝️just 1 more thing 🤔. This was way after the SD455, but I drove my sister’s brand new 78’ Bandit to the prom. When I pulled up, got out, fixed my Afro and put the T-Tops on, I got a standing ovation, and was the talk of the school all the way up to Graduation. Imagine, a 17 year old kid driving a Bandit Trans Am to a prom..??🤔😊
@svenmartin840
@svenmartin840 Год назад
I wonder how Greta gerberg John Kerry and Bill Gates all screaming about those cars now. Because that's when I was a kid. And I was a JDM fan but still learning about the muscle cars
@TonyM132
@TonyM132 Год назад
The EPA "hates this car"?? You said nothing about the EPA ever having any issue with it. 👎 And if you asked 50 EPA employees, I seriously doubt even one would say he hates 1973-74 SD Trans Ams (and most wouldn't even know what they are). 👎 You ruined a decent video by giving it a completely bullshit title.
@richardkaltenbach3961
@richardkaltenbach3961 4 месяца назад
Oops, At 8:46. You Mispronounced It. It's Supposed To Be Pronounced De TOM i so! Accent On First Syllable! Now You've Been Schooled!
@jackreacher.
@jackreacher. 7 месяцев назад
5:39 4500 RPM is the factory limit placed on grandmothers who were lucky enough to receive the liberty of experimenting with these brutes. Notice that 8000 RPM is the posted extreme limit of theoretic allowable abuse. AWESOME
@bartbullock7817
@bartbullock7817 Год назад
old school here, You know it's a shame, Pontiac had built the head design on this, To be a world beater, and with some tweaking.......... P.S.... make damn sure you keep that windage tray.... we were making a little over 500hp,570ftlbs Factory cast iron exhaust, Factory intake.... You know, Didn't want to scare off any street races.
@dizzle123able
@dizzle123able Год назад
I know that voice!! That’s Mr.Angry himself!! Big Mike Musto!!!!
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