Fun fact: Firefly was the first person to wake up from the dream after Sunday basically called her weak willed. She had to end her own life in the dream to wake up.
i know this quest was long, but i thought it was really satisfying and worth it at the end. the build up for the last leg of penacony is hype as well. love this game, love these characters. ;-;
I agree, quite cinematic and amazing. I also love the trailblzers answer as to why life sleeps and how that affected Sunday. He has spent most if not all of his life on Penacony and seen so many people sacrifice so much, give up everything and do horrible things just to enter Penacony and have that perfect eternal dream. And that has probably shaped his convictions. So the MC saying that we will wake from our dreams. We slumber to rest, we slumber to recover, and sometimes we slumber to escape from this painful world for a time. But we will always wake up and make our dreams a reality, working hand and hand with our fellow trailblazers and make the world a better place. May this journey lead us Star ward!
@@GoldenDeer_ i play as stella and have watched people play as caelus it's a joke to even compare the two if we were to rank the 5 members of the express stella only loses out to welt caelus however loses to them all by far. I thought when i watched that caelus he would be just the male stella much like lumine and aether but boy was i wrong the most interesting caelus has ever been if in fan made images so not cannon. if i was to rank the 4 characters based of writing and characters in general the lists would be by character. 1. lumine 2. stella 3. aether and then a long long long way away in 4th caelus. but writing very similiar 1. stella 2. aether. 3. lumine and a long way way down 4th caelus.
The character writing in this quest was phenomenal… Aventurine, Sunday both starting off as fairly disliked characters, Gallagher, Clockie and Misha given sleeper roles, Firefly and Acheron hiding everything etc etc
1:27:40 Hoyo has been hiding so much in the quest descriptions recently. In this scene, it's a letter from Mikhail to you, the Trailblazer, where he basically passes on his ideas about life. The Trailblazer then answers the final boss in the same way. { ....However, as a Nameless... as a person... we have the right to reflect. We have the right to act. We have the right to define our own endings. We have the right to move forward. As we advance down the road to our own ending, there are many things that people are capable of, and our endings will thus take on a completely new meaning. A Nameless does not indulge in temporary dreams, nor would they forsake their birth rights due to pain and suffering. Do you still recall the question I left in my invitation letter, Trailblazer? "Why does life slumber?" "People slumber so that, eventually, they can awaken from their dreams." ...This is the answer that an old Nameless devoted his entire life to finding. }
@@CurseOxuin tbf Elio isn't really controlling anything is he, I mean he's called destiny's slave, he's just vibing in the background telling people what's gonna happen
Shaoji cooked well, but man I don't like how people are so, positive for the future of HSR right now. Isn't this like practically how Shaoji does things. He makes it look like the story is okay and happy then he just slowly takes it away, little by little until you're completely depressed. And after that he starts building the positivity again until it's really positive again but it doesn't really help since you're already depressed and he considers it a "positive and wholesome story" since it started positively and ended positively without really engaging what happened in between. 😂
24:01 true ending: the siblings made a cage for the bird, giving it the utmost care they could, daily btw. When robin left penacony, sunday released it to send it back to the nature. It tries to fly but to no avail. After more than 100 attempts, it fell to its death with its wings shattered. 29:54 true ending: the dreamchaser became a rich man after sunday told the bloodhounds to stop their pursuit. Then the dreamchaser had a plan to usurp the alfalfa family. When sunday asked him about his children, he responded: "What children?" 1:12:49 aka, the legendary watcmaker, the previous trailblazer 1:19:11 misha’s story begins in 2147 AE ( 1 amber era = from 76 to 240 years). Now we’re in 2158 AE. Yes, gallagher is really old right now 1:27:06 yes. My life is ruined 1:31:26 misha’s demise and xipe’s gaze 1:34:04 there 5 portraits: aven, firefly, acheron, sparkle, BS. There’s even gallagher dog, boothill’s gun, robin bird, and fishes and water that represents misha/mikhail. 1:45:20 firefly’d better join the express. One day 1:50:03 it means this is how gallagher, a history fictionologist dies. 2:01:16 this made SAM’s en va laughed for 5 minutes 3:01:30 facing the order trio 3:04:38 the gang vs sunday 3:06:54 sunday wants more but… 3:33:08 new nakama 3:34:36 4 potential choices for 3.0 3:39:55 trailblazer as the new valk for hi3?! 3:41:12 in my language, it means: I’ve been always thinking of you 3:49:57 sexy time 3:53:19 when sakura says she loves naruto 4:03:39 we’ve been dreaming since 2.0 4:37:35 i know what the red text means: only the trailblazer can hear them. There was a time when she asked us for help, but you can’t refuse for some reason. If you pick refuse, she’ll asked you many time until you say yes. 4:42:43 in my vietnamese translation, her name means "Raiden Mei, the keeper of the river of forgetfulness" 4:43:46 time to wake 4:49:25 6 against 1 4:50:05 get railed 4:53:43 best himeko quote 4:54:21 sunday’s ultimate attack 4:56:44 we saved sunday 5:02:04 the end 5:08:56 theory: oswaldo was the person who made boothill into a wanted criminal for some reason (Check the guest book on the train, misha is no longer visiting us anymore. He left you 10 jades as a farewell gift)
Sunday is such a good villain Peak hoyoverse villain His motives of just trying to help people at the cost of his life, because he had suffered heavily in the past is such a good villain backstory 😭
@@Khann_2102 We dont know about future story yet, but hopefully it will be him also. Esp since he stopped writing for HI3 after Elysium Realm arc. (after which story quality tanked a lot)
I adored this story, while i feel bad for those who felt like this dragged on too long to be enjoyable, it has been a long time since I've played a game story I enjoyed this much overall! Loved watching your playthrough ^^
It's the ups and downs of Shaoji's writing. Great story planning and an overall amazingly complex narrative, but also bloated dialogues and recurring character tropes. If you're not someone who loves to read for the sake of it, sometimes it feels like it drags.
People saying this is too long need to go back to games that you need to play for 5 months before you reach the ending Like Persona games take for freaking ever
i mean, if humanity didn't build a sanctuary for endangered species we probably wouldn't be able to see any living pandas long ago. Releasing animals that we have cared for into the wild may seem like a noble act but all we really do is actually send them to die a confused and painful death. They're animals, we can't use human logic on them to determine if they're happy or not. House cats are meant to be kept indoors, doing otherwise would've been very irresponsible since u're exposing them to danger.
Robin addresses this in one of her text messages to you. It’s not an either-or situation. She acknowledges that they messed up rehabilitating the bird in the cage and should have eased it back into the wild to improve its chances.
@@yubaa And she's right. In essence, the whole reason we put endangered animals in rehabilitation centers is so they won't become endangered species anymore. The strong helping the weak = Harmony. Making your own choices, paving your path against destiny and into the unknown despite it being meaningless = Nihility and Trailblaze.
Well Duk is officially the streamer I've seen get the most train dialogue lines with 3. But still missed March and Robin's Remember kids, always go in with a lower damage team to story content.
I Never cried so much playing a game. Ever. Not even the ending of the Guild Wars 2 Dragon cycle, which I followed for more than a decade since my mid-childhood had me tear up this bad. I was inconsolable. Like that interstellar Meme where the guy watches the recordings of his daughter get older and older, i just sat in front of my screen and my tears fell like dusks rain. It was perfect. This was, by far, the greatest moment in all of video game history. This blows Fontaines ending - though insanely good - out of the water and cements itself as the pinnacle of gaming as a medium and an art form. Everything here is beautiful, the visuals, the analogies, the callbacks to both Honkai Impact 3rd and Art as a whole (Dominicus touching Ena is clearly a reference to that famous Michelangelo Painting in the Sistine chapel), the music, the orchestral/piano version of Robins song, that has so much gravitas and feeling behind it but its also so… unassuming and free at the same time, her hugging her brother as he falls, “The night is still… too short” as a way of saying “I failed and my dream now ends.”, both the dream in a literal sense as well as his dream of the perfect - if flawed - world. The ending that feels like the end of a movie, with the actors and explanations of who did what, it’s cinematographic genius truly. This is grandeur. And I’m so, so interested in seeing how they’ll top it.
Sunday could have just put like 10 Clockie puzzles (of high difficulty) in a row (with no countdown how many are left) and it would’ve made Order win in most hysterical fashion Edit: the funniest part is that that part was left in after editing lmao
Man I HATE when chats of good CCs indirectly spoil about good moments. Like what do u get by spoiling? Don't y'all want your CC to have the same excitement and reaction as YOU ? So WHY SPOIL ? Nevertheless, greatly enjoyed your playthrough Duk
I find it funny how Duk thought that leaving the dove to its own devices which would doom it to an early painful death is what nature intended, even though nature intends for many things, diseases, aging, predation, sacrifices, suffering, but also nurture and growth etc. Yet everything around it and that includes people is unnatural as it is formed through thought, fences, houses, people, cages, internet, medical knowledge and prevention, energy harvest and distribution etc. Reminds me a lot of anti-vax people, who don't want vaccines due to them being unnatural, yet they themselves live in an environment possible only because of many unnatural things and are likely alive and not in agony because of it too. I can't decide whether the appeal to nature fallacy is just an excuse for the human mind to not think about some things other than itself or if it's a case of "too complex to be single-minded, but not complex enough to not be stupid".
Wildlife reintroduction is one of the things where the naturalistic fallacy is not a fallacy because if an animal doesn't know how things work in nature, it WILL die and way more painfully than it should. If you don't know what you're doing, you're doing the thing a favor by leaving it alone, even if it dies. Because if you take care of it and it loses the chance to learn how to take care of itself, it will die anyway later on when you release it into the wild without properly teaching it how to function, more likely of hunger than predation. Since the option was about building the bird a nest and giving it a shot at living instead of just feeding it to a snake or leaving it on the ground, that was a better option if we consider the alternative ended with the bird smashing into a window and dying anyway. Sunday was not going to admit to that however so he just casually mentions how he noticed several predator species that eat birds in his backyard. At which point do we stop blaming nature for doing what it does and start blaming Sunday for not clearing his backyard of carnivorous predators?
I love Sunday so much bro he's such a complex character and I love his philosophy and everything about him. people who hate him couldn't even handle him fr
Timestamps for me 1:12:50 Misha reveal identity 1:31:25 sadge..😢 3:06:50 Such cool cutscene 3:53:20 😂 THE CREDITS LOL 4:42:44 I KNEW IT! I KNEW SHE IS RAIDEN MEI HONKAI IMPACT 3RD! 5:50:05 GET RAILED
penacony really set the highest stepping stone for hsr story in future, if the future story doesnt improve, we will back at this moment, the penacony moment really hope they will give us more than this is the next planet !!!
Finally Duk!!! I can watch your reaction Also the free event lightcone is perfect for Robin….i also suddenly got Robin just by randomly pulling a few times during quest…
Hoyo made similar peak story arcs in HI3, up untill and including the Elysian Realm arc. Its mainly Genshin that had much lower tier story. If you havent played the game, its worth playing just for its story.
Dude, the tears that i had through the entire section between Tiernan and Acheron and then they drop MEI on us!? I still tear up from how good it all is.
Sundays boss music was great, but can we talk about that organ music during the meeting in the lobby? Also, having done research, unfortunately acheron is not the Mei from Impact 😭
4:24:45 i think whats being implied here is that the only way she could awaken from the dream, is if she took her own life, because realisticly speaking how else would she wake up from the dream, hopefully i am wrong tho, although theres still a question on my mind, how did she enter into the dreamscape in the first place
It would seem that stowaways have their unsafe methods of getting in...perhaps the wake up feature is part of the dream pool tech in the hotel that's difficult to replicate, and all you can really do is force the Order's automated death-eject that's baked into the dream itself.
Regarding Sunday's moral dilemma of supporting Robin's path, I think I can make it a bit more understandable to the real world. Imagine the most precious person in your life, doesn't matter if it's a friend or family member, volunteered to deliver medical supplies to troops at the frontlines in Ukraine. Can you really say with certainty that they or the troops they helped will stay alive, or if they'll be shot dead without mercy, all of their hard work going to waste or maybe even forgotten? So I don't think it's unnatural to do everything in your power to convince them not to go and possibly die in vain. I'm not implying that caging someone up is right, since it *is* their decision at the end of the day, but it does make the "right" choice for yourself a lot less obvious.
Pretty good quest and reaction I still think Fontaine is better cause it had better acts(really only liked acts 4,5 in penacony while liked all acts in Fontaine)we really can't compare cause duh genres
The most funny thing about this quest is Trailblazer dreaming of Jingyuan saving them.We be really wishing to see the general I guess.Come on Jingyuan,what are we?
1:24:48 I think this whole flashback has to be possibly decades to centuries old. Maybe I'm misremembering, but the Charmony Festival and Watchmaker's Legacy is a concept that's well known and been done multiple times right? Long enough for Mikhail to die of old age, for the gallagher we know to be a memetic entity, and (spoiler) Micah is dead too But also, now that I'm typing this out, they said it's not normal that all the factions are invited to penacony? So I dont really know how to combine these 2 things
@@zealsora02 ah ok. yea I just did a thing that unlocks after story quest, and the npc mentions they lost contact with watchmaker "a while back" so my theory of it being decades or centuries is probably wrong edit: i went to look at it again, they mentioned clockie has been a thing for 500 years???? so either i was right or maybe watchmaker just lives a longgggg time (but he's not a long life species right?)
@@andysabur4966 1. The Charmony Festival is implied to have occurred multiple times, because it's a once-an-Amber-Era event, so I'm assuming there has been a few. But I think this is the first time the Watchmaker Legacy was brought up. 2. So this is the first time Mikhail and Gallagher invited outside factions to "the Charmony Festival" in Penacony. 3. I can't put a timeline on how long ago did Mikhail die. Based on the current event quest, seems the current head of the Iris Family, and a few others knew the Watchmaker personally, so it should be relatively recent. But the Astral Express stopped travelling and only resumed recently after Himeko repaired it. So it must have been ancient. Because Mikhail must been dropped off before the Astral Express stopped travelling
@@zackang4731 yea my bad, i didnt notice the very next line after the 500 year clockie that the people have been in contact with Watchmaker. My guess is that at some point his body is long gone and he lived as a dream person only for quite some time. Founder of clockie so he definitely was alive 500 years ago, but prolly discarded his body and lived as old man in the dream for quite some time. Then as he was desperate, did the whole legacy setup
Sadly as much as a lot of folks like HSR for story a lot of its hype came from the fact that it connects to Honkai Impact They could have made the game its own thing but the Dev doesnt seem to think Star Rail can stand on its own and thus named its characters from existing characters from their other game like Seele and Bronya and the others. Even some of the hype of 2.2 still connects to Honkai Impact
The Order (Or Sunday I guess) literally ended itself. THEY merged reality and the dream -> which led to Misha being able to hear the Express when it arrived in Penacony -> which led to Misha leaving the dream bubble and meeting us -> therefore became the one flaw to wake us up from the Order's dream -> which led to the Order's demise.. 🤌🏽
