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The Eternal Struggle - Competitive History of Sheeva 

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Sheeva has historically been a low tier character competitively in this series, however, this has changed in the latest instalment.
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@PNDKM
@PNDKM 3 года назад
OK so Sheeva is kinda good now but remember this video was made before ultimate came out LOL
@mexicanguitarist123
@mexicanguitarist123 3 года назад
Can you do the comp history of motaro! Please!
@PNDKM
@PNDKM 3 года назад
@A dudes thoughts Stomp isn't even her best move at highest level. Stance and especially Queens Punishment are more dangerous.
@JNAMOTORSPORTS
@JNAMOTORSPORTS 3 года назад
How can I play on ps3 or 4??? For mk3
@DerpsterTheNoob
@DerpsterTheNoob 3 года назад
@A dudes thoughts Stomp has been nerfed now. Only time will tell but hopefully she’ll be used outside of “spam stomp to win”
@powerninjasuperior482
@powerninjasuperior482 3 года назад
Never was a fan Sheeva boring
@samtorento4493
@samtorento4493 3 года назад
If Goro has 2 chests, then why doesn't she have 4.. you know what nevermind
@realmjumper8154
@realmjumper8154 3 года назад
Imagine having to animate the jiggle 😳
@foxcraft5215
@foxcraft5215 3 года назад
Cuz then the game would be AO
@blutagg63
@blutagg63 3 года назад
Then there could be Fucktalitys
@dpostop4502
@dpostop4502 3 года назад
😩
@Shrek_es_mi_pastor
@Shrek_es_mi_pastor 2 года назад
It would be fucking weird, they should have done it
@kujo4388
@kujo4388 4 года назад
Just noticed, she’s like the only character to have ALL her klassic moves in every game she’s in.
@christopherandersson5082
@christopherandersson5082 4 года назад
Because they haven’t thought about her since mk9 besides “Durrr shokan girl power” while doing nothing to her mechanics 😂
@gummyboots
@gummyboots 4 года назад
@@christopherandersson5082 she has all her classics moves yes, but she has a bunch of new ones too, dumbass.
@genjorah
@genjorah 4 года назад
Because that's all she is
@christopherandersson5082
@christopherandersson5082 4 года назад
@@gummyboots you must be one of those idiots that are impressed because “duuuuh she has a shield now” judging by your idiotic profile and vids it seems you are
@blgdoesthings4122
@blgdoesthings4122 3 года назад
@@christopherandersson5082 what possess people to check RU-vid pages as a rebuttal
@UfodexENMD
@UfodexENMD 4 года назад
Ahhhh yea just ordered a pizza and got a new MK competitive history! It's a good day!
@MrTyler189
@MrTyler189 2 года назад
Thats ironic because I'm watching this waiting for my pizza at pizza hut
@SupportGamin2024
@SupportGamin2024 4 года назад
Sheeva got done dirty in mk11,Sindel betrayed her,despite trying to protect her for centuries
@pfuze_5775
@pfuze_5775 4 года назад
Well kitana did to so?
@Shiratto
@Shiratto 3 года назад
Yeah, well Sindel’s entire character got done dirty by the writers because apparently everything has to be taken at face value.
@glawrk2861
@glawrk2861 3 года назад
Sheeva is my new girl
@brycel4692
@brycel4692 3 года назад
Sheeva's story makes no sense in MK11
@Sub-Atomic
@Sub-Atomic 3 года назад
@@brycel4692 The story in general doesn't make sense in MK11
@JustFighty
@JustFighty 4 года назад
I’m still surprised he’s stayed away from characters like Johnny, scorpion, raiden. But I’m glad he’s going for less popular characters
@kujo4388
@kujo4388 4 года назад
He’s giving them more attention and they have 4 or less appearances so the videos are easier to cover.
@mandalorianhunter1
@mandalorianhunter1 4 года назад
Dude do u know how many games those characters appear in? The video would be 40+ to at least a hour
@feedbacking6306
@feedbacking6306 4 года назад
It’s because it would be way too hard to do a character who is in every game.
@JustFighty
@JustFighty 4 года назад
@@mandalorianhunter1 I’m not stupid dude. I more or less saying it in the context of the views it would get. More popular character coverage would in theory bring in more views. I more or less surprised he hasn’t tried it yet. And if he never does, idc, I feel it’s more entertaining to learn about lesser known characters
@mandalorianhunter1
@mandalorianhunter1 4 года назад
@@JustFighty who said anything about you being stupid? I know what you meant and I was explaining another reason as well.
@bradypahl
@bradypahl 4 года назад
Oh Sheeva the queen of skrub-killing. One of my all time favorite casual run characters when i wanna just play mk especially in mk9 because her combos just were so easy and damaging. I always wished they fixed her hitbox problems in that game. :/
@PNDKM
@PNDKM 4 года назад
She wasn't the queen of scrub killing besides smash and grab to be honest.
@deanjackson6844
@deanjackson6844 4 года назад
@@PNDKM She was always a scrub killer for me because they never knew how to respond to any of her stomps or trermors. My first flawless in arcade was spamming those moves with Sheeva.
@TheBestOfTheWorst
@TheBestOfTheWorst 4 года назад
Sheeva's 2nd variation, Deadly Dragon, is about plus frames. She has a special that can be hit confirmed to guarantee a followup a hit/throw mixup off of every touch. It's not a combo variation. Both V1 and V3 hit higher damage combos, so it'd be silly for V2 to be a combo variation.
@PNDKM
@PNDKM 4 года назад
Fair enough! My mistake. It's always tricky to go into variations nobody plays.
@TheBestOfTheWorst
@TheBestOfTheWorst 4 года назад
@@PNDKM It is! I only know because I specifically play the least played variations of characters. No blame towards you at all, just simply offering a correction.
@williamcalhoun883
@williamcalhoun883 4 года назад
ehh, I'd have to disagree, v2 is definitely the one you pick for combos. A combo variation doesn't necessarily have to be higher damage. v1 and v3 might have higher damage, but they're niche, whereas v2 combos off of anything cause of dragon charge. It does have nice plus frames off of the spin, but Sheeva already has fantastic plus frames off of her strings that you can get strike throw mixups off of in the same manner. Not to mention the fact that v3 is much better for mix anyhow. I personally think v2 is still a combo variation just because you have significantly more combo routes, which is what a combo variation would be about. The plus frames are just a perk of that variation, but it's definitely not the centerpiece.
@PNDKM
@PNDKM 4 года назад
@@williamcalhoun883 That's why i always talked about V2 as a combo variation, because you can combo the shield into most things, which is always important for characters that otherwise have limited pathing. V3 having Death March is similar at least, but every time I see good sheeva's use V2, it's for the dry keepaway and the conversion/whiff punish potential. Always happy to hear about other playstyles though.
@mike9574
@mike9574 4 года назад
Mortal Kombat Trilogy was the first fighting game I ever played in my young life & it remains my favorite today. I’ll never forget how cheap it felt being a literal toddler and having my own father relentlessly perform Sheeva’s dragon drop on my poor defenseless cyber ninja. Neither him nor sheeva had a single care encouraging me to “git gud” from the very start. Thanks sheeva & thanks dad
@nikitaivachtchenko6375
@nikitaivachtchenko6375 4 года назад
I'd be down to see a Competitive History of Nightwolf, Tanya or Bo'Rai Cho. Maybe even one for the Joker, seeing as he's technically been in two MK games; maybe you can even fit in his Injustice appearances as well.
@PNDKM
@PNDKM 4 года назад
The tournament used for the final clip was the MK11 Open Series that Playstation run on their Twitch/RU-vid channel. Make sure you check them out EVERY tuesday for both EU and NA MK11 action with Mustard and myself.
@Iqzzy-KO
@Iqzzy-KO 3 года назад
Can you do Reptile next please? :)
@ICY-HURR
@ICY-HURR 4 года назад
I remember seeing Jeremiah use sheeva for the first time and doing well. I always rooted for him. There’s was only so much he could do with mk9s sheeva though. Glad you mentioned him.
@laurentiusmcmxcv
@laurentiusmcmxcv 2 года назад
Is it just me or MKA's Sheeva looks really good design-wise compared to like every other MK game ?
@brennanmarsh1572
@brennanmarsh1572 2 года назад
I don't like how they made sheeva look in mk11. the part I can't really articulate well is the hair, I changed it immediately because I don't like her base hair but I really don't know what they did with it. the part I can articulate is that they gave her much softer facial features and to me that doesn't really look like Shiva, in previous games her face looked feminine but strong.
@khrashingphantom9632
@khrashingphantom9632 4 года назад
I always liked Sheeva and I'm so glad you guys covered her! I've always enjoyed seeing people highlight characters that are outside the RU-vid and "competitive meta". I think a good fix for Sheeva in MK9 would have been a damage buff and making her grabs unlockable that may have changed things for her.
@mikeackworth1871
@mikeackworth1871 4 года назад
what i would have done is anti air mb extends like in mk11 so she could maybe have a 70% or more combo really go for the high damage grappler
@temporary_error_3264
@temporary_error_3264 Год назад
Sheeva is my absolute favorite MK character. It makes me so happy to see her thrive in 11.
@doublequarterpounder1
@doublequarterpounder1 4 года назад
I love this series so much! Keep up the amazing work, brother! It would be awesome to see one on Smoke one day
@cammyplayer
@cammyplayer 3 года назад
So I have a question. In the SNES, there was a cheat/glitch to play with an invisible Sheeva in UMK3. Obviously she wasn't used in competitive play, since she could even glitch the game, but it got me thinking... if that wasn't the case, do you think she'll be viable? Would be completely invisible at all times save her?
@ShiftyGuy777
@ShiftyGuy777 3 года назад
3:46 beats her
@ninjahedgehog5
@ninjahedgehog5 4 года назад
I told this story in the MKT meta video but back in my childhood i'd visit family in dominican republic every summer. And in DR there are gaming club/cafe where you can pay to play their large library of video games. Here me and my cousins would play MKT on N64. One day we were just playing 3v3 as per usual and i found sheeva's c.high kick infinite and it pissed my cousin off real good
@axelking1183
@axelking1183 4 года назад
Omg I used to go to those gaming clubs at DR too and stay for hours. There was one of those in front of my house when I used to live there, the old days 😭
@dangerousdru
@dangerousdru 2 года назад
Man I miss those days when the announcer would question "friendship?" Please nrs one more patch just to include that!
@MTR_Nara
@MTR_Nara 4 года назад
Sheeva is freaking amazing in MK11 😆 I played her a bit in MK9 and she was pretty fun there
@nicolasmouzakis650
@nicolasmouzakis650 4 года назад
Bad doesn't equal unfun, and i argue that bring fun is far more important than being high tier
@MTR_Nara
@MTR_Nara 4 года назад
@@nicolasmouzakis650 I already know that a character being bad doesn’t make them not fun, I play low tiers 😂
@ShiftyGuy777
@ShiftyGuy777 3 года назад
@@nicolasmouzakis650 yup always play what you like or feel comfortable with.
@Valisimal
@Valisimal 3 года назад
why amazing? cause you stomp people to death with 2 buttons? ...no thks..
@KMTBLING
@KMTBLING 2 года назад
5:54 looks pretty high tier to me 😵‍💫🫣😍
@rangercav7189
@rangercav7189 2 месяца назад
alr bro
@KMTBLING
@KMTBLING 2 месяца назад
That booty
@calebcalhoun9847
@calebcalhoun9847 3 года назад
7:12 looking like a spider
@tanzolo4487
@tanzolo4487 4 года назад
Ketchup & Mustard, I just want say a big thank you for the amazing content you guys put hours in, and we get to consume for free. Informative, well narrated, good editing and an overall very enjoyable video to watch yet again!
@smokey3504
@smokey3504 2 года назад
Armageddon Sheeva's HTH probably had the boss block animation as an incidental carryover from it being one of Goro's HTH styles in the PSP & Gamecube ports of Deception
@Duothimir
@Duothimir Год назад
Sheeva looks so wimpy in MK11. Like some emo punk instead of a regal badass.
@pp-ng9cw
@pp-ng9cw Год назад
sheeva does rlly well on the ai matches in mk11 for me at least with the build im using
@dedkmk
@dedkmk 4 года назад
Good stuff! However, Sheeva can "escape" the corner trap in UMK3 by buffer the teleport stomp while blocking. This will make a juggle i.e. pushback the player who does the corner pressure. In some scenarios, she can even do the Teleport through the jabs in corner!
@sanobr318
@sanobr318 3 года назад
FATALITY: Death by Snu-snu
@formulatheprod2659
@formulatheprod2659 Год назад
Mk Armageddon sheeva was just pretty hot not gonna lie. ✋😗✋
@bautistacardozo7092
@bautistacardozo7092 4 года назад
I'm so glad this series is back man. I always enjoy these videos
@Bloody-Butterfly
@Bloody-Butterfly 8 месяцев назад
Sheeva would often dominate in casual games.
@PatriciaCross
@PatriciaCross 3 года назад
One of the arcades at Metrotown in Vancouver/Burnaby BC, Canada was fortunate enough to get the early builds of MKIII. In the second build of the game, Sheeva was broken. Her Tele-Stomp effectively infinited, and it was really hard to avoid because it's startup was so good. Once I (for fun) beat the game with her by just flicking the joystick non-stop, so she just stomped all the way through the entire game. Including over Motoro and Shao Khan. Took no damage. That build didn't last long, though. By the next weekend it was updated. Good thing, because she effectively made 1v1 unplayable if anybody picked her. I wouldn't be surprised if this wound up being why she was made so bad. It's possible they just could not balance her. I think I managed to play all the early builds of this game. A 7-11 not far from my mother's also got an early MK2 build. Vancouver seemed to get a lot of sweet arcade stuff. This version of MK2 had Sub Zero able to do the freeze portion of his Freeze and Shatter fatality during a match. It was unblockable and you didn't defrost. If you had the life lead, you just won. I understand live testing games; but a few of these things I am surprised even made it into any live build at all. How do you not catch these in quality control?
@megamawile8540
@megamawile8540 3 года назад
Trilogy is my favorite MK entry, followed by 9. I only played the 64 version so this explains why I had such a fun time with her buttons.
@TheMrPeteChannel
@TheMrPeteChannel 3 года назад
Wasn't her outfit the skimpiest of all the females ever?
@TehDrewsus
@TehDrewsus 4 года назад
3:00 UMK3+ sighting 🙃😍
@PNDKM
@PNDKM 4 года назад
always
@StubenhockerElite
@StubenhockerElite Год назад
I miss mohawk and slim chin sheeva
@cuddlybear781
@cuddlybear781 4 года назад
Sheeva was the best MK3 character because she's the only character I could beat Motaro with
@kevinxaislis
@kevinxaislis 4 года назад
I still think her mk Armageddon default costume is her best look.
@kevinxaislis
@kevinxaislis 4 года назад
@River in Armageddon she looks like a fierce mighty prideful shokan warrior. her outfit i think compliments it. remind of of strong amazon warriors. though maybe some area needs to be cover up a little? also her mohawk looks amazing tbh. in mk 9-mk11 she kind of lost her muscles for some reason. she gotten smaller and NRs did her quite dirty in aftermath in my opinion.
@chad264
@chad264 2 года назад
I’ll never understand why they changed the faces in 11. Like, what was the point?
@barakinggaming4846
@barakinggaming4846 4 года назад
Can baraka be next not mutch people talk about him.
@paulsewell4136
@paulsewell4136 11 месяцев назад
Love Sheeva her and Sindel are Good Guys now love them both 🙂💯👍🏾
@anamekian1742
@anamekian1742 2 года назад
If only they could’ve used Grace Jones, as the Character Model. She would’ve fit this PERFECTLY!
@GeneralCba
@GeneralCba 4 года назад
god I hate playing against mk11 sheeva
@ev5837
@ev5837 3 года назад
Playing Mk11 in general is pretty awful
@jasonrustmann9876
@jasonrustmann9876 3 года назад
I know she got two pretty big nerfs in the newest game, if you know what I'm talking about
@basketcase4605
@basketcase4605 Год назад
Even though Sheeva was bad in MK9 she was always my go to pick as a kid since she could really cheat the AI in ladder
@legionbeast
@legionbeast 3 года назад
What puzzles me the most is both Goro and Sheeva had the tele-stomp in Armageddon, but the inventor of the Tele stomp, Kintaro, didn't have it in armageddon.
@llSuperSnivyll
@llSuperSnivyll Год назад
"She was a pretty forgettable character in UMK3", to the point she's the only character to be removed in the Genesis and SNES ports.
@eduardosantos2477
@eduardosantos2477 2 года назад
I remember one time at a MK3 arcade where 2 guys where playing against each other only using sheevas umblockable stomps, it was soo stupid and they had like a lot of arcade coins soo even after i and other kids defeated then easily they just keep doing that, that day those guys made most kids leave or play another machine (since MK3 was the most wanted at the time)
@Merknilash
@Merknilash 3 года назад
Good god the faces in MK11 are so awful
@PirpiperParfkakis
@PirpiperParfkakis 4 года назад
Great series indeed, thanks! Does Sindel Competitive History have a potential future release? That woulbe fun! Cheers
@JUDGEtachanka_lol
@JUDGEtachanka_lol 2 года назад
MK Armageddon and 9 had the best females
@chrisbeer4233
@chrisbeer4233 3 года назад
I remember skipping class in high school and going to the local Time Zone and playing the original MK, MK2 and UMK3. I loved it then and I’m still enjoying it all these years later.
@Kipa2
@Kipa2 2 года назад
You will never have Sheeva gf... :'(
@moonmight7228
@moonmight7228 4 года назад
Good video, but why's Ermac gotta be the training dummy?
@ToyoshiG3
@ToyoshiG3 Год назад
Looking at what we got on MK3, I'd say the initial idea for Sheeva was having a high risk/high reward character, easy to hit but that you don't wanna get close to... a Zangief, but without the grappling part (though her grab was good i don't feel it counts)
@patrickimperial579
@patrickimperial579 4 года назад
17:18 Robocop lookin like Daredevil from the Netflix show
@olly8435
@olly8435 3 года назад
T H I C C
@JcgLounge
@JcgLounge 4 года назад
Do the competitive history of Retile, the cyber ninjas, and Quan Chi
@Sweetace2211
@Sweetace2211 2 года назад
No wonder I've always thought Shiva was super good by default. The first time I saw and played against her as a kid was in 9
@trenton5809
@trenton5809 3 года назад
She's my favorite female character.
@shangtsung668
@shangtsung668 3 года назад
Do you roleplay?
@DoofXMachina
@DoofXMachina 2 года назад
@@shangtsung668 bro down bad
@armorbearer9702
@armorbearer9702 2 года назад
Perhaps Sheeva could use some more kicking moves. It would be interesting to see what you could do with 4 arms & two legs.
@noobie7727
@noobie7727 3 года назад
Tele stomp aka PLAY THE GAME YOU SPAMMER or Lol stomp
@Clonekiller66
@Clonekiller66 3 года назад
I know it's probably never gonna happen anytime soon. But my favorite MK Kharacter is always gonna be Kabal... I honestly can't think of a single game where Kabal has ever been bad
@KMTBLING
@KMTBLING 2 года назад
Sheeva was my childhood crush don’t judge 😭😂
@foxcraft5215
@foxcraft5215 3 года назад
Thx for covering my waifu kombat senpai
@RanOutOfSpac
@RanOutOfSpac 4 года назад
Hey man, that stomp in MK3 was the most broken move in the world when I was 5 years old.
@jpzeller27
@jpzeller27 3 года назад
I def would climb on top of that like a spider monkey
@DrContext
@DrContext 3 года назад
Never forget: WhyDidNRSDoThis
@gaymansupreme
@gaymansupreme 2 года назад
Mommy?
@josesosa3337
@josesosa3337 2 года назад
Looks like her horns don't seem to be consistent.
@Pedalbored
@Pedalbored 3 года назад
I can’t get enough of your channel. Absolutely love it. Thanks for all the content!
@MannyKunV
@MannyKunV 6 месяцев назад
sheeva mk9 outfit gives me impure thoughts
@rangercav7189
@rangercav7189 2 месяца назад
as with pretty much all the edinians in mk9
@maxsilva4674
@maxsilva4674 3 года назад
Great vid Fun facts. On the SNES version of UMK3 she was removed from the rooster; but she wasn't totally deleted, allowing a lot of bugs. In MK3 on SNES, her friendship wasn't programmed properly, and cant be performed.
@resistorstudios
@resistorstudios 3 года назад
The real question is, would you?
@blakecausey908
@blakecausey908 3 года назад
Sheeva is fun to use
@Goldone99
@Goldone99 Год назад
I'm not alone a thing of Balance ⚖️
@therayldeal6683
@therayldeal6683 Месяц назад
It's a shame she's had so many weak appearances because I love playing Sheeva. The Shokan in general just have an appealing design.
@uynosquedamostrabado
@uynosquedamostrabado 3 года назад
dayum boi sheeva is *THICC*
@Clonekiller66
@Clonekiller66 4 года назад
I'm hoping for Baraka or Kabal next up :D You guys have been making so much stellar content lately! 2020 needed stuff like this. Keep up the great work Ketchup! ❤️
@elcreyo
@elcreyo 4 года назад
Nice video. I give it 4 thumbs up.
@johntoye6602
@johntoye6602 3 года назад
Can you do competitive reptile or ermac soon?
@kibariou
@kibariou 3 года назад
Sheeva best girl.
@rosefaceFGC
@rosefaceFGC 3 года назад
Just got done rewatching this entire series! So well done! I think diving into the competitive history of Frost would be amazing! Maybe a video going over guest characters and their viability? Either way I'm stoked for more
@BryBryReacts
@BryBryReacts 4 года назад
U should do Sindel next she got a major upgrade gameplay wise in MK11 🙃
@kujo4388
@kujo4388 4 года назад
So basically in umk3 she was just super high risk/ high reward
@chrisnichols9014
@chrisnichols9014 2 года назад
If you can pull off her combos and hit people consistently in that game, she's really good.
@dannysadique9163
@dannysadique9163 4 года назад
Her mk11 f443 string looks so similar to the umk3 hk hk lk bhk Great call back from NRS!!!
@enderhx
@enderhx 4 года назад
Love this series!
@Satchmeat
@Satchmeat 26 дней назад
MK11 Sheeva design is so hideous. Art style really went down recently.
@_Paul_N
@_Paul_N 3 года назад
I would LOVE to see a competitive history of Baraka! Nightwolf wouldn’t be bad either lol.
@Insikai
@Insikai 4 года назад
OMG WHAT A SUPRISE SUNDAY NIGHT!!!
@robertparsons7354
@robertparsons7354 3 года назад
Sheevas actually almost hot lookin in the newest game lmmfal
@modest1989
@modest1989 4 года назад
You put out such great content keep it up amazing work
@goldenhydreigon4727
@goldenhydreigon4727 2 года назад
Sheeva in MK9: *literal garbage* Sheeva in MK11U: haha dragon stance go brrr
@jollygoodfellow3957
@jollygoodfellow3957 3 года назад
MK9 Sheeva is my waifu. Imagine what she can do with four arms...
@VaporeonEnjoyer1
@VaporeonEnjoyer1 3 года назад
I fucking hate what they did to her in MK11. I'd rather the character just not exist.
@Bikee-uh6of
@Bikee-uh6of 4 года назад
i am absolutely loving these videos but tbh i do hope he gets to the more popular characters. Lovin the more obscure ones, but it would be nice to have an mk1 or mk2 character.
@PNDKM
@PNDKM 4 года назад
I wouldn't say Sheeva is that obscure considering her appearances in most of the main titles.
@Bikee-uh6of
@Bikee-uh6of 4 года назад
@@PNDKM yeah thats true. she has appeared in 4 games. 2 of which have rich competitive history and 1 is the most recent. i guess what i mean are the characters like jax, lui kang, or johnny. (that may be because i want longer vids cause i love this series). Keep doing what your doing and i cant wait for the next!
@mikeackworth1871
@mikeackworth1871 4 года назад
@@PNDKM hey i would love to see a kabal video just cos he is always top tier
@T2Designgaming
@T2Designgaming 4 года назад
amazingly entertaining video. thanks for making it
@DustyVita
@DustyVita 4 года назад
I love mixups as a spectator, Sheeva's a blast currently.
@rossanderson4156
@rossanderson4156 3 года назад
You wanna try me guv?
@SavannaWizard
@SavannaWizard 3 года назад
Some love for Ashrah and Li Mei please ❤️
@chara2038
@chara2038 2 года назад
I to this day like to go back and watch Jeremiah and Oscar Broly play Sheeva in MK9, as bad as she is in this game i absolutely LOVE playing her XD
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