It's so important to note that this speech was 3 years before the referendum. Note his reference to the rise of extremism (left and right) back then, which people with short memories erroneously blame on Brexit
extremism rises with economic decline, and that's not related to EU. Then, most people couldn't help notice we're (back?) in a cold war. Again, Europe needs to decide whether it's a fourth, potentially mediating power or surrender to selfishness. It's easy to critizise a project (the EU in a concise and transparent form) which takes decades to evolve but already keeps us in (relative) peace for an unprecedented span of time. People who grew up with the benefits (single market, free movement, customer protection, data protection, kind of common'ish foreign policy, free mobile roaming) can of course not name them, because it's not their achievement - it's just there. Of course anyone can leave (other than Texas can not leave the USoA), but that party should at least have a plan to answer the most obvious implications.
@FlyingMonkies325 well, the ECB is only relevant for the 18 out of 27 countries that implemented the EU currency, so I don't get your point on "they take billions". Maybe you mean the "EU budget" in general? Regarding "investment", how do you explain, the EU invested 4.5bln pounds in the UK according to HMT report on EU spendings 2016? (the report soundly explains why a certain number on a bus was not exactly correct).Each country reports their own numbers, you can look them up. To me, the EU seems to be a multi-way-road (to pick up your metaphor), especially when it comes to "roads" - ever been on a Polish autobahn reecntly? Of course there is an overhead if the EU implements central services, that's how funding works.
I always thought Mr Mogg was just a posh git, but no more! I have watched a lot of his speeches (especially on the eu) on RU-vid and I agree with what he says about the corrupt eu. To me he seems like a true British patriot (unlike the majority of our politicians) and a real honest gentleman.
Guy is a complete liar. For example Ireland was not made to vote again until the EU got the right result. 2 referendums were voted against for various reasons and on both occasions negotiated with the EU and got some terms changed and 2 new referendums were put to the Irish people and they were passed. That’s pure democracy and not undemocratic like he claims.
Yeah ! High 5s for 'The Toff'!. Yah !!! He knows what he's talking about and if I were HIS constituent, I would feel 'Safe' if he was standing up for me. Strange how the British Armed forces look upon its officers as 'Wimps or 'Fops, because of the way they speak. Its not that, its the fact that Our 'TOFF is an Officer & a Gentleman & therefore a Man of integrity. Reese Mog is solid gold & represents, honesty, backbone, leadership & fairness. 'Cometh the time, Cometh the man'.
@Qwfwq66 He may be horrible, but at least he is not evil like you, who seems quite vocal in your support of sexual perversion and the genocide of the unborn.
@@costakeith9048 sexual perversion? Genocide of the unborn? Your inability to discuss a topic purely on its merit without injecting your own horrendous biases tells me you are very immature.
@Lossiemouth Beach On another note, voting is aggression by proxy, the most violent act most people commit in their lifetime. voters are despicable fascistoid tax-cattle.
@Qwfwq66 His views on abortion, contraception and homosexuality may be objectionable, but they're completely irrelevant to this debate. He's a staunch Catholic and he is entitled to hold his own private views. He doesn't profess to inflict them on anyone else. Again, why is that worth bringing up in an EU debate? Are you trying to imply that Eurosceptics are all anti-abortion, anti-gay? Because that's madness.
In America, your average Kentuckian can hardly stomach the idea of a court in Washington telling him how to run his own store; I can't begin to fathom how we might react to a wholly foreign entity dictating policy to us. Is Britain sovereign or isn't it?
frostek Yeah, the Eu was there to safeguard your best interests now, these nasty capitalists are coming to get you, if only you could send them off to a Gulag.
+ToonandBBfan You should have put that then. You're not voting to leave a continent LOL x13 If you had put what you meant in the first place we wouldn't be having this conversation.
He embodies everything that is terrible about lovely England. What an arrogance, what a lack of real grace and compassion... earned his fortune in the terrible financial system: that's how these people do it - no morale, and then later talk about ideals etc. Repugnant.
@@terryneale8663 Typical leftard mental case, always hate, violence, theft, envy and lies. No wonder leftism always fails like clockwork. crawl back under your stone, snake.
@@calysagora3615 What a Pleasant person you must be, however I'm a centrist not leftist. Which probably means that you are a far right fascist. So please do go play with your swastikas, and white supremacy dolls.
@@terryneale8663 All statetheism is inherently leftist/collectivist, and your false dichotomy impresses no-one. If you vote at all you're a fascist wanting to use the government monopoly on violence to make people do and pay for what you think they should. It's an I sane violent belief system. I'm a Voluntaryist, as if that wasn't obvious from my avatar, the diametrical opposite of any definition of fascism. We advocate that no human action is valid unless fully consensual and voluntary. Obviously that rules out any form of government, since all that ever brings is extortion, coersion and mass death. You're
@@calysagora3615 So we were both wrong, I'm not a leftard, might be a mental case though specially after brexit, and your now a right wing fascist, good for you. However because I think one person who has inflicted great suffering on a large number of people deserves to suffer, doesn't mean that I always hate, violence, theft, envy and lies. While not all a lot of that does apply to Mr rees-mogg though. As for voluntaryist, I don't really see how that works as a political standpoint.
He's absolutely right, and I'm from Malta, the country Mr. Rees-Mogg has just denounced as having more power proportionately in their European vote than the British. I used the same argument in my media writings before Malta's referendum in 2004, so I can't blame him. His argument is sound. If you look at the proportionate vote, there is a real imbalance all round, which means that, whichever way you look at it, whether it's Britain having 29 votes representing their millions of voters, or Malta having 6 votes representing their half a million voters, there is still no sovereignty for individual countries. Can you see our 6 votes making a dent when it comes to preventing a law from being enacted? Hardly. Ergo, when there is no equal voting power in the European Parliament, only the countries with the majority of votes have the true power. The result is no true democracy for individual states.
not to mention the 100x more laws and regulations for all aspects from all countries.. every little detail. every daydream the bureaucrats have and feel like writing laws for everyone else about. it makes life for businesspeople incredibly hard and inevitably leads to poverty on a european scale..
@Primegaming The epitome of populism and stupidity. This narrow minded snob doesn't understand that we don't unite in Europe for democracy, as we don't unite among ourselves in our countries, cities or towns because we want it; we do it for protection and prosperity. If you don't understand how China is now a world threat to the western stability, that Russia is too, and in some time India and others will come to the table, you are delusional. The world works in a bock logic today, either for defense or commerce. There is no way to defend ourselves if we don't act as one, as a roman legion, who destroyed all the tribes that lived separately and only united for war, and didn't have a monolithic quick acting structure. This is no different. You stupidly believe the British liked each other through history, which is nonsense; they got imposed that collective identity to be able to operate in the world (and only recently, in the last decades that identity started to stabilize). The EU is no different. Ignorant and dangerous ideas from the conception to the execution; that is why this guy and his followers are considered idiots everywhere and nobody takes him seriously (except the resented working class).
@Christian Proust Man, you're so brainwashed that is sad. For you a little quote from Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." You have been told that you have to give away your rights, in order to be safe. But you are just walking blind into an abyss. Also because he is a "snob" from your point of view, you discarded what he said? That's another thing that proves how biased and brainwashed you are my friend. The problem is that the ignorance you show is now a days a very big problem. And the people that think like you do, don't have the ability to accept when they're wrong. They will get mad and try to silence opinions with fallacies and offenses. It's worrying how many people like you are around, and as history has proven, is people like this, that "unite as one" to be loud and destroy the rights and freedoms of others who simply think for themselves. I hope you see how bad your argument was (though I really doubt it). Open your eyes and see the problems we all have in front of us. Politics and the government are not to trust 100%, take responsibility of your own and when everyone is fit to respond tho himself, then Union will come naturally and not by force, because what you're defending is a totalitarian regime, where it's assumed that different people from different cultures, are the same and have to think alike in order to be "safe and protected". I hope you realize how wrong is that. For the snob and for the poor.
+corey fisher Speaking as a fellow American, however "awful" the European Union is now, it pales in comparison to how genuinely awful the European landscape was exactly 100 years ago. And Europe as has enjoyed a longer period free from major warfare than either of our grandparents, and great grandparents ever observed.
And this started on trade alone, what a lie well if you can't take Europe via the front door as in ww2. Then take it via the back door with a smile on their face and while they shake your hand.
corey fisher Don't be sure. The EU is great. Research the rights of the EU citizens and the freedom of movement. Could you imagine in the US having to get a visa going from one state to another? Or having to apply for a work permit for another state? Thats what Europe was before the EU.
im from sheffield and hate elites with all my heart (born shefield 1981 i cant help it) but i like this guy cus he has dignity and honour and tells it straight.
dean chetty I'm from Sheffield, born 1983. Don't hate "elites", can help it, just judge each man on the content of his/her character, not on his/her perceived wealth. Mr Mogg is a good egg.
elites are in the trap too. they were born where they were born same as everyone else and raised the way they were raised by "the blind leading the blind". any christian knows ( should know lol ) that their saviour says to pray for ur enemy or at least love thy neighbor. remember the golden rule, as u sow, so shall u reap ( karma ) is a law, unlike man made legislation. my point for u being any strong emotion ( hate ) always returns to its originator. as a commonly used saying states, u catch more flys with honey than vinegar x
I have the impression that many Lefties are connected with these Elites... I am a christian conserbativ and have all my life lived modest and supported the poor in poor countried Among member of SOS Kinderdorfs organization. Love lt
Dignity and honour belongs beside other distent words to christian thinking and doing. Man transforms to a quite another person with a heart on another level...
Mogg is a hard right Politician & chairperson of the European Research Group (ERG). He is a Supporter of a hard deal Brexit & as such is helping to bring the country to its knees. He would make an appalling Prime Minister as will Johnson whom he supported.
Mogg is so British i grew a monocle, a top hat, started drinking tee and eating biscuit while watching this p.s. swiss, good choice lads to leave that clusterfuck of an EU. We were smart enough to never join because we knew that they would drain our market and destroy the swiss franc. Bilateral is the only way to go, everything else can only become a bad deal sooner or later. "Keine fremden Richter!"
I hope not. Thats when Irish start to hate the English again, fierce strong stink of Cromwell off him. The Irish example is wrong might i add. The treaty was changed to support national vote and only then did we pass the Lisbon treaty.
Thank you Mr Rees-Mogg for highlighting the lack of democracy in the EU whereas here in the UK we prize it very highly although we don’t actually elect the Head of State (that’s done on hereditary), we don’t elect anyone in the second chamber, we don’t elect the Prime Minister (that’s an MP only vote from only one party) and unless you vote for the winning candidate in a general election, your vote’s ignored. Why can’t the EU be as good as the UK?
Head of state has no power realistically speaking that can be shown my the Miller 2 case but judging by your comment you probably don’t know what that is so that point is irrelevant, second chamber appointees need to be unelected so that they can make unpopular decisions and their powers are heavily limited by the parliament acts and Salisbury convention, and the winning candidate question is not true either as shown by 2017 ad 2010 general elections where there had to be power sharing agreements because of unhappiness manifested by previous governments so ill think you’ll find that the UK is far more democratic than the EU will ever be.
The bog difference is that within the UK the electorate do get to choose the party (with their policies) by vote. A voice for the public to make change & a voice over those that rule over them. Theres absolutely zero chance of that within the eu. No vote, no voice over the eu commission/councils that have the power over the eu public. 🇬🇧
A quite brilliant speech about the increasing dangers of the Soviet-style EU and its threat to our democracy. So why doesn't he join UKIP, which has been saying the same things for years? He and Farage would be a formidable partnership.
I definitely agree, friend. Thank Heaven Rees-Mogg has thrown his weight behind the anti-EU group. Though the Tories are part of the problem with regards to the current state of Great Britain, his formidable eloquence will serve the British Independence cause well.
GodConsciousness Sparse media coverage is a major problem for the anti-EU lobby. Yes, Farage gets a fair bit of coverage but he's largely the only one, and he's never given a fair interview when on the BBC. I'm hoping all that will change after the Euro elections because I fully expect UKIP to sweep the board, thus increasing their voice. How sad that the likes of Rees-Mogg stick with the Tories when they are, as you say, a part of the problem. In fact, under Cameron it is no longer what I would consider a "Conservative" party.
Indeed. I'm against Scottish independence but I'm all for British independence from Brussels. Westminster must once again become the true center of political power for the country. True self-determination is impossible when foreign unelected bodies possess the ultimate authority over one's people. The Tories, Lib Dems, and Labour are basically different masks hiding the same face. That's why nothing really changes for the better general election after general election. If I were PM I'd advise the Queen to dissolve Parliament and hold a general election right now. Cameron's in it just for the perks like being tucked in personally by Oblah-blah on Air Force One.
GodConsciousness As you say, the 3 main parties are serial failures. They are also serial liars, and I shake my head in disbelief that anyone would continue to vote for them, especially as they are openly handing control of our country to foreign, unelected bureaucrats and disgracefully refusing us a say in the matter. Then again, I shouldn't be surprised, for if Labour bombed one half of the town I grew up in on Wednesday the other half would still vote Labour on Thursday. As for Scottish independence, whilst I think that, generally, England would benefit I don't think the Scots will go for it. There are too many imponderables, despite the claims of Salmond and co.
I'd like to see Respect and UKIP merge into a working party. Now touching on Scottish independence, if Scotland (however unlikely) were to vote for independence next year, then they MUST follow Iceland's example in order to have any hope for success at least economically. When the banking bubble exploded in 2008, Iceland, unlike Europe and the United States, actually prosecuted and jailed the banksters responsible for their share of the fiasco. Now the island nation has a currency independent of any Rothschild-controlled central bank and is actually prospering. Would not the Great British Public actually enjoy the same benefits if THEY TOO jailed the banksters who actually DESERVE jail time? I believe they would!
@@casperwallace9685 So when he was supporting the country to leave the eu, wasnt that him supporting the UK and England, that was him supporting his country. what I find strange is unjust and unbacked accusations. You will have to post a little evidence of why your ``opinion`` is right.
@@marksavage1108 First of all, I don't have to post any evidence and I don't even have to speak to you. However, best thing to do with anyone, is ignore the words and look at the actions the deeds. Says more than anything.
@@casperwallace9685 there you go again, just an unfounded opinion. an opinion that is meaningless and worthless as apparently its only in your head. look at what actions and deeds or are you making stuff up in your head and attempting to pass a mere opinion as factual.
Only the one believing in Rule Britannia would unite behind him the one knowing the UK is a mid power that was the super power of the 19th century in the corner of a little continent that could only stay relevant on the globe in the coming years if it join its voice with its neighbors.
We all have some sort of accent. I would trade my accent for his! The way he speaks is just his style. He's very easy to understand. And note how he never.... ever... disparages his detractors... never resorts to name calling and the like. He's very knowledgable, always listens to his fellow debaters and shows them the utmost curtesy. In short, he a class act.
He's a terrible man, your judgment is terrible. You might want to question everything you do tomorrow because I wouldn't trust you to cross the road, let alone vote.
@@nicholashoyne5804 It's not your place to trust his vote. He'll vote how he wants for his own reasons, same as you. Perhaps you're a militant, leftie Labour voter and as such believe anyone whom votes Tory is evil and despicable and blah blah blah. Bore off.
There is nobody in parliament who speaks better than Mr Rees-Mogg I pray if the opportunity arises he runs for leadership he is the only one who can save us now
So someone whom speaks well, that's your requirement for leadership? How about wisdom and honesty.... far better qualitys even from a leader with a stutter or Kerry accent 😅.. seriously though, moggs a rich lying asshole with ideas to rule, don't let him get into your head or lead please. Sincerely Everyone bar Brexiteers
I Have never voted Conservative in my life. But, If Jacob Rees Mogg stood for P.m. I most certainly make the effort to vote for him. I would make an exception in his case and for the first time ever ,vote a concervative into power. I don't say that lightly. The mans a sure bet to bring this country back to where it should be . He is the image we would be honoured to have stand for our country, Great Britain.. The old school , remember how you would always trust the old school. He is honest, he is driven for what he strongly believes in ( What's right is right) hes very Educated and has put many persons in their place when needed. The man is a Genius ,he never loses his temper , or gets angry. He just calmly , and collectively puts people in their rightful place. He is a true Brexiteer , unlike T.May. And a lost cause like Labour has become. Jeremy Corbyn isn't a Leader, he's a joke. I always try to get my facts right before I write about anyone. I have followed everything JRM has been saying on different shows, newspapers , ect, ect. This man stands for PM and that will repair the ruined Conservative party for sure. We Are The Public Opinion of this Country. Just for once ,LISTEN TO WHAT WE ARE TELLING YOU.
Made millions from the Brexit vote. A man who would ban abortion if he could. Does not believe in contraception. A sick, relentless homophobe. Tremendous
@Qwfwq66 Cummings is a devilishly intelligent man, his professors at Oxford have always described him as a genius, and his handling of the vote leave campaign was absolutely brilliant.
He gave reasons why he doesn't like the EU...because EU rules hinder his freedom and his class to do things based on their own self interest which is not necessarily the countries best interest.
@FlyingMonkies325 who exactly in France and Italy? not even the now previous Italian government ever consodered that. Immigration or more precisely displaced people from middle east heading for Europe will always end up in Italy or Greece (check a map), the EU does at least provide some compensation (check any news on how refugees are distributed). There Euro-sceptic parties in France, yes, but they are also aware of the importance for the French economy
@FlyingMonkies325 No, people aren't suckers for punishment. They have vested interests within EU, i.e., money to their pockets. Tony Blair, Jo Swinson, Gina Miller all get money from EU. With no money, do you think they care about EU?
You speak the TRUTH ENGLAND! Britain. A private plan for the Elite of England,time for selfish parasites to go it alone. Scotland and N.Ireland did NOT vote for this"DEMOCRACY what a joke! LETS TELL THE TRUTH DICTATORSHIP!!!
@@calysagora3615 argument /ˈɑːɡjʊm(ə)nt/ noun 1. an exchange of diverging or opposite views, typically a heated or angry one. "I've had an argument with my father" synonyms:quarrel, disagreement, squabble, fight, difference of opinion, dispute, wrangle, clash, altercation, feud, dissension, war of words, contretemps, exchange of views; More 2. a reason or set of reasons given in support of an idea, action or theory. "there is a strong argument for submitting a formal appeal" synonyms:reasoning, line of reasoning, logic, case;
Rees-Mogg was right about the EU back in 2013 when he made this speech. A time when a referendum in the UK on being part of the great pan European experiment was just a pipe dream.
Watched this 24 December 2019. Soooo looking forward to 31 January 2020. Rees-Mogg was, as usual, 100% correct. Thank God we're leaving. MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE. X
Great orators are in short supply worldwide. Thank God for JRM! Britain should be enormously proud of having in their ranks the finest politician on the world stage today!
watching this in 2021, an 80 seat majority from 43% of the vote, unelected beaurocrats in power, ministers proven to have broken minesterial code, seemingly bulletproof....two countries forced to leave the EU against their wishes..UK "democracy" is flourishing indeed.....oh & btw...Jacob Real-Smug moved business to Dublin.......
It's very sad to see, but at least half of the British establishment now works directly on behalf of a foreign power, the EU. And the people seem powerless to do anything about this.
The Tories, Labour and the DUP want to deliver Brexit... That's a sweeping majority of Parliament. If anything, Farage seems the most EU-puppet of all: calling for No-Deal in such a divisive manner is a great way of scaring people away from leaving the EU. 2015-2016 was the height of euroscepticism in Europe, now the opinion is falling back all over (France, Spain and Italy are all moving less towards, if not away from it). So yeah, don't know about that...
Jacob, the EU is not the only ones that is, or has been a threat to democracy, The Tory party has been doing a fine job of killing off democracy, WHICH YOU MUST AGREE.
AWESOME, Jacob Rees-Mogg. Love his quick turn of wit and humour and still getting to the nub of the issue. We, the UK, must leave the EU. So pleased we followed his advice.
This video and JRM's arguments were one of the best cases made for Brexit. It was such a shame the the Leave campaign was hijacked by bigots. He certainy made the "moderate" case for brexit, why can't more politicians like this? I hope he get's a good position in the next cabinet.