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The Europeans of Bronze Age China 

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A number of Chinese words have been discovered to be of Indo-European origin, but how deep do the connections really go? Drawing on the most recent Chinese genetic and archaeological research I examine the presence of ancient European peoples in China and the part they played in Chinese history, focusing primarily on the Chalcolithic and Bronze Age.
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@Sideritis
@Sideritis 24 дня назад
Let me add that the early nomads of Altai castrated horses in the 6th-3rd centuries. BC e., as evidenced by the archaeological finds of the Pazyryk mounds. Geldings were popular as classic steppe cavalry because they can calmly, without the desire to mate, be in a group with other horses; they are less pugnacious. These qualities are still valued today, especially on large ranches where working horses are usually kept in the herd and where the ability of the animals to immediately begin working on command is often important. in Russian the word gelding sounds like "merin".
@user-gn2xq9dp9j
@user-gn2xq9dp9j 23 дня назад
Stirrup was not invented till 1700-1800 years ago, and Chinese bowmen of 5000 could confront a Hun cavalry army of 100,000, and it is because the Huns did not have stirrups. In the 2nd century China, the ancient Tibetao-Burmans invaded the Yellow River area by 10,000 cavalry. 200,000 Chinese soldiers from counties in the area were asked to pool money to buy 10,000 horses, and then 190,000 soldiers dismissed, and the rest 10,000 cavalrymen chased the 10,000 barbarians back to the area of the Yellow River origin. No stirrups at the time. But the Huns and Avars had the stirrups to invade into Europe.
@BiharyGabor
@BiharyGabor 22 дня назад
What archeological evidence is there for castration? It only affects soft tissues which disappear.
@ashleigh3021
@ashleigh3021 19 дней назад
@@user-gn2xq9dp9j Useless babble.
@VX-VAMAEBI78N1-MR-12
@VX-VAMAEBI78N1-MR-12 17 дней назад
Not entirely accurate; scythian saddles had bolsters that acted in the same fashion as stirrups.
@user-gn2xq9dp9j
@user-gn2xq9dp9j 17 дней назад
​@@VX-VAMAEBI78N1-MR-12 This could be just another myth. European related military history attributed to the Avars for first using stirrups. Last time I wrote the Huns and Avars took the stirrup there. I now take back the Huns' part. Stirrup was not particularly talked about in China. The sudden change of warfare could be seen in adoption of cavalry uniforms in the 4th to 3rd centuries Before Christ, which did not replace the thousand-year-old chariots' warfare, continuous usage of chariots in the campaigns into Mongolia and Siberia in the 1st century, abandoning of chariots' warfare in the mid-3rd century, with like dismissing 190,000 soldiers to get 10,000 soldiers ride on horses to chase the Qiang cavalry marauders who did not likely possessed the modern-sense stirrups, sudden fighting capability of the Xianbei cavalry in the 4th century, with hundreds of Xianbei daring tens of thousands of Huns. My guess is stirrups were invented about the time of the 1st part of the 4th century. Then the Avars took it to the west.
@Divus_Traianus
@Divus_Traianus 24 дня назад
A video about the spread of buddhism would be great and also a rare thing on youtube
@Pincer88
@Pincer88 24 дня назад
Agree!
@GeraldH-ln4dv
@GeraldH-ln4dv 24 дня назад
I agree completely. Would love to see it done by Kevin.
@NFS0038
@NFS0038 24 дня назад
I'd like to see this too. Especially the origins. Ancient Buddhist history and mythology seem impenetrable to me
@Doctor_Manhattan777
@Doctor_Manhattan777 23 дня назад
What’s wild is a lot of these early Buddhist cultures spoke proto indo European family languages, so it would be really Interesting to see how these groups overlap and like cross cultural ideas, I suspect Silk Road and other variables at play , anyway def would be cool 😎 👍
@kathywolf4558
@kathywolf4558 23 дня назад
Yes, that would be very interesting!
@vishmonster
@vishmonster 24 дня назад
Fascinating. I would be interested in what the literature says about the Vedic peoples prior to their arrival on the Indus.
@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 24 дня назад
Aryan/Kuragni/Yamnaya Expansion is the word you're looking for
@peterb3772
@peterb3772 24 дня назад
The subject truly captivates my interest. Your presentation is thorough, well-researched, and delivered with a compelling presence. My appreciation for your efforts.
@tmesisskewomorph7491
@tmesisskewomorph7491 24 дня назад
Excellent info, presentation, visuals + maps. Thanks.
@al-qadi3427
@al-qadi3427 24 дня назад
Thank you for the video. I strongly recommend Schwerpunkt's video on Tocharian warfare on the topic
@Akutabai5
@Akutabai5 23 дня назад
I tried to declare my bag of 789 grams of cannabis was for religious purposes. Sadly, it did not work
@WightMoon61
@WightMoon61 5 дней назад
LMAO i was thinking that might be a good defence, there goes that idea
@ericcloud1023
@ericcloud1023 24 дня назад
im glad YT recognizes that every new video of your's MUST be at the top of the reccomendations XD always a pleasure man, much love
@peterj9351
@peterj9351 22 дня назад
Thank you for consistently excellent work, very much appreciated!
@michaelniederer2831
@michaelniederer2831 24 дня назад
Great overview, and I'll look forward to more details as you explore the admixture of peoples.
@ruththinkingoutside.707
@ruththinkingoutside.707 24 дня назад
I really enjoy your content! Thank you for all the work you put into them!! This time period and location are FASCINATING.. I’ve been looking for Bronze Age or (personally preferably) earlier content for ages and this region, including China and Japan isn’t covered like the west at all.. I’d love more early history and prehistory on east of Mesopotamia region etc.. I tend to rewatch the interesting videos over and over again while I’m doing other things.. since I inevitably miss something the first time few times around.. this one will go on the playlist!lol
@danmaertens7872
@danmaertens7872 17 дней назад
This is so interesting, very well made presentation! Thank you
@Language_Guru
@Language_Guru 24 дня назад
This video was amazing! I had heard of the Tocharians and their Indo-European languages, but I was not aware of the depth of Indo-European penetration that you have laid out in this video. Thank you!
@erin5092
@erin5092 24 дня назад
I couldn’t wait to watch this when it popped up. It did not disappoint!
@anulfadventures
@anulfadventures 23 дня назад
This time period with the movements of people, culture and ideas across the length and breadth of the Steppe has always been one of my favorite "curiosities". I love learning all the new information being revealed.
@-RONNIE
@-RONNIE 24 дня назад
Thank you for the really good video
@dasitmane7590
@dasitmane7590 23 дня назад
This video was a wild trip. 10/10 bro, thanks!❤
@martianalligatorfarm3561
@martianalligatorfarm3561 24 дня назад
I would love more videos on this region very little historic information is to be had. It,'s Fascinating
@mariannefournier1679
@mariannefournier1679 22 дня назад
Fascinating, well done. Thanks.
@danielnielsen1977
@danielnielsen1977 20 дней назад
Your the man! I think you're the first to have made anything like this. And it could go much further, deeper. I'm really pleased to hear more talk about Tocharians. I believe they are more vital then what's known. There burial practice is vary unique. Vary deliberate and unlike anything else. Fresh cow hide wrapped around boat like caskets. Telephone pole sized posts reaching to the sky. Seem like river boat travelers, or maybe river boat travelers in death. Thanks man!🔥
@christopherneil6117
@christopherneil6117 24 дня назад
Really interesting, thanks
@greggoodson9082
@greggoodson9082 24 дня назад
Absolutely fascinating. Thanks
@katipohl2431
@katipohl2431 24 дня назад
Fascinating, please more and dive deeper.
@oconnorsean12
@oconnorsean12 24 дня назад
The steps really fascinate me. The breath taking beauty and the peoples that moved into the region is incredible!
@Bjorn_Algiz
@Bjorn_Algiz 23 дня назад
Fascinating ❤ very interesting and informative!
@joebidet2050
@joebidet2050 24 дня назад
Awesome video I'm related to Afanasievo My mtdna u4d3 And a woman buried 5000 years ago in far nw china also u4d3 😊 The best video info ive ever seen Thanks for history lesson of my ancient family
@auraledgereal
@auraledgereal 22 дня назад
Hi, what is your ethnicity?
@joebidet2050
@joebidet2050 22 дня назад
@@auraledgereal white Same as kalash But they are more beautiful👍💯😀
@lghdr6365
@lghdr6365 10 дней назад
Then you should look into Ancient North Eurasian ANE, the progenitors. Also not European and defintely not white.
@ericgiova1663
@ericgiova1663 24 дня назад
Ok, as I'm an ignoramus, your videos are, for me, incredible. They're superbly researched, and give good ideas for further study. Thank you very, very much for sharing this wealth of knowledge.
@Boricuapsico24
@Boricuapsico24 24 дня назад
Excellent video! Can't wait to see more of the eastern side of the ancient world!!!
@user-nw5fg2mw8b
@user-nw5fg2mw8b 24 дня назад
Thanks interesting wise info
@liquidoxygen819
@liquidoxygen819 24 дня назад
Wow! What an awesome video. Extremely enjoyable. Please continue to look at Indo-European influence in East Asia!
@FortressofLugh
@FortressofLugh 24 дня назад
Thank you! Will do!
@vmhutch
@vmhutch 23 дня назад
Always love your deep dive snapshots of history. More about Buddhism would be great. Something about the interaction of steppe peoples, hunter gatherers, and the populations who would populate the Americas would be appreciated.
@ryancrabtree6791
@ryancrabtree6791 24 дня назад
Just got home from work, was about to cook dinner, saw this video and said "Hell yeah". Great video, I also like the idea of a Buddhism video
@joebidet2050
@joebidet2050 24 дня назад
I said same Best video I've ever seen on Afanasievo culture Gets little mention
@GeraldH-ln4dv
@GeraldH-ln4dv 24 дня назад
Excellent video. Thanks. I am fascinated by the relationship of Tocharian A and Tocharian B and the more recently proposed Tocharian C branch. And it is interesting that the Tocharian languages are generally considered to be a centum rather than satem group, which definitely supports the idea that the proto-Afanasievo culture went eastwards long before the satem languages developed and also implies that the satem languages developed in a central location (Sintashta/Srubna?) rather than an West/East isogloss which was the predominant belief before the understanding that Tocharian and Hittite were centum languages.
@user-gn2xq9dp9j
@user-gn2xq9dp9j 23 дня назад
I told the yotutuber: You appear to put new wine in old wine cup. Edward Vajda - Tlingit and the Dene-Yeniseian Hypothesis. Linguistically, Chinese was to do with this umbrella. Tibeto-Burmans split from Chinese 5000-9000 years ago but shared 80-90% cognates, all with the 'quan' cognate for dogs. This was before any Tocharian migration to the Tarim. Genetically, Chinese were related to the Fins who lived in southeastern Inner Mongolia before migration to the west. Pottery and metallurgy, you want to study a Russian Olga Gorodetskaya's bronze studies of excavated bronze in the Yangtze, much older than the Shang bronze. And you want to study Needham to know potteries were invented 15000 years ago, and only in China you had the wind turbine to generate the high temperature. Metallurgy, the west did not know how to melt the ore or casting other than hammering. Horse and chariot, the west was 1000 years late in harnessing, and the Sumerian harnessing would choke a horse at the neck when fast running. There is no way for a R1B gene to carry high tech to China. Edward Vajda would give you the dates by millenniums for the interactions of people, and you could come to understand why Avars were N and Q genes, Fins and Central Asian Turks. The Central Asia R1a people were pushed out by the Turks. In ancient Chinese, we had the mixed genes of the Fins and Turks, but not Indo-Europeans R1a, not to mention your R1b.
@MysticsMagazine
@MysticsMagazine 24 дня назад
Very well presented, thank you. It would be good to add your references: where did you find this information?
@kathywolf4558
@kathywolf4558 23 дня назад
The spread of Buddhism as well as videos on the other cultures! The movements of the ancient cultures are very interesting as well as the connections to various peoples ancestors.
@gaslitworldf.melissab2897
@gaslitworldf.melissab2897 23 дня назад
Indeed. I'd love to learn more of the steppes and surrounding lands in future videos. I will never be able to keep it all in my head, but it's what I spend my time taking in on RU-vid, that is, most of the time. The number of cultures that flourished, just in that region alone boggles the mind. I wonder why we don't learn about them, at least an introduction to them middle school.
@johnkelly7757
@johnkelly7757 24 дня назад
More on this subject matter please.
@NFS0038
@NFS0038 24 дня назад
This video is excellent quality and very well researched from many unbiased sources. The Tocharians are an obscure group in modern awareness
@unitor699industries
@unitor699industries 24 дня назад
Totally forgot about this channel this is the first notification I got in months
@FortressofLugh
@FortressofLugh 24 дня назад
My output isn't high as I put a lot into research and putting things together in a decent way. I had a few videos bomb so it may have messed with the algorithm.
@aidanmcmillan-dx8lq
@aidanmcmillan-dx8lq 22 дня назад
@@FortressofLugh I don't always agree with your overtures, but the information is always really high quality. Keep it up, Mr. McLean.
@acaydia2982
@acaydia2982 24 дня назад
Scythian Empire by Christopher Beckwith is an awesome follow up
@MS-ce8nr
@MS-ce8nr 24 дня назад
Thank you so much.
@cpopiandm
@cpopiandm 23 дня назад
One day, please tell us about the steppes horseman who conquered the peoples of Eastern . Northern Europe. Becoming Russia. Lithuania.Poland.Ukraine. Hungary. etc Your work here is valued and much appreciated.
@GarfieldRex
@GarfieldRex 19 дней назад
Never heard about this before, absolutely interesting, now I'm curious about the Tocarian and earlier Yamnaya and Afenasievo cultures' origin 👌
@SEKreiver
@SEKreiver 24 дня назад
Great job! It has also been asserted that the ancient Han word for 'magic' came from the Indo-Europeans.
@ShahanshahShahin
@ShahanshahShahin 23 дня назад
via Sanskrit or Avestan.
@auraledgereal
@auraledgereal 22 дня назад
I think it came from Indo Iranian word magi. If i'm not wrong, " Magis " were priests of The Medians.
@SEKreiver
@SEKreiver 21 день назад
That's POSSIBLE, but evidence points to an entry TOO EARLY for that. That's what I recall.
@melyndaloftis6350
@melyndaloftis6350 24 дня назад
Yes , love the videos. Keep them coming. A video on the spread of Buddhism would be wonderful and perhaps also exploring more on how Islam did too.
@barryking5993
@barryking5993 24 дня назад
It’s funny how all blacksmiths of that age figure out Metalurgy to turn weapons into lethal devices
@aariley2
@aariley2 24 дня назад
Necessity is the mother of invention.
@Liethen
@Liethen 24 дня назад
Are not weapons lethal devices by definition?
@EroticOnion23
@EroticOnion23 24 дня назад
Anything can be lethal, fists -> tools -> weapons of war
@Mr0rris0
@Mr0rris0 24 дня назад
The equalizer: bronze age Bro takes you out with cow shit Allusions to the first mk ultra magaculture yes
@Mr0rris0
@Mr0rris0 24 дня назад
You'd be surprised what a blacksmith can figure out ;)
@johnking6252
@johnking6252 24 дня назад
Could the different interpretation of the words for horse be traced to when the horse becomes not just food but a useful tool (domesticated) so to speak. Excellent video , brings up many more questions. 👍
@paulvmarks
@paulvmarks 24 дня назад
A very important story.
@AngkatanNamwaran
@AngkatanNamwaran 23 дня назад
The word for (Wheel) caught my attention. In the Philippines, the Tagalog word for wheel is (Gulong), while in Malay it's (Gulung).
@malagebide
@malagebide 21 день назад
Chinese: 轱辘 (Pronunciation: gulu)
@MasonMWang
@MasonMWang 18 дней назад
both gulu and gulun are meant similar idea. Gulu means something cylindrical like a tree trunk which can roll . Gulun means wheel to turn.
@MasonMWang
@MasonMWang 18 дней назад
馬(MA) also can be pronounced as (MU) which can be pronounced (WU) which means military or marchall. Horse was named MA for drawing chariot.
@AngkatanNamwaran
@AngkatanNamwaran 18 дней назад
@@MasonMWang Yes, in Tagalog (Gulong) could also mean "roll".
@koreyoneal2623
@koreyoneal2623 5 дней назад
This is my maternal haplogroup according to 23&Me , H6a1a , and it said this about this haplogroup : "Subsequent migration carried members of H6 eastward to the Altay Mountains of Central Asia, where it is common among speakers of Altaic languages such as Kazakh, Altai and Mongolian. Then, about 3,000 years ago, a westward migration of her descendants carried the H6a branch into Europe, extending the range of H6 to cover over 3,600 miles of Eurasia."
@ameet2295
@ameet2295 21 день назад
Madhu means honey In hindi 🇮🇳
@FeralDruid75
@FeralDruid75 24 дня назад
I'm asking for it. Thanks in advance.
@Agares777
@Agares777 21 день назад
Please do a video on Vesta and the Vestal Virgins:)
@auraledgereal
@auraledgereal 22 дня назад
Some interesting Tocharian words Mother - Macar Father - Pacar Brother - Pracar Daughter - Tukacer Eight - Okt Name - Nem
@kaarlimakela3413
@kaarlimakela3413 17 дней назад
I wish my 10th grade history teacher from 1970 could be here now, enjoying the granularity of the discovered past in this region. She would find it all so exciting. She was the one who turned me on to the Hittites. 😊
@Lyphatma
@Lyphatma 24 дня назад
I have for a while nursed a hypothesis that the Shang Dynasty was of Central Asian origin.
@lghdr6365
@lghdr6365 10 дней назад
😂 if you could read what they said about the enemies to the west of them you wouldn't. But you can't. So....here we are. For the record, they human sacrified those western enemies. So...enjoy that thought.
@Trollvolk
@Trollvolk 21 день назад
I mean, there was quiet an exchange during history. If you look at the word:"mare",german:" Mähre" mongolian: "mor/ morin" and chinese: "ma", it can easily came with the huns or earlier encounters with tribes from the steppe. The word Marshall is of mongolian origin for example. 车 is the norden chinese symbol for any waggon/vehicle, if anyone might be confused. The symbol in the video is the traditional one.
@JakubDavoy
@JakubDavoy 19 дней назад
Hi there, I also found some fascinating research done from Zibo Linzi, Shandong area. From dating horse grave sites in one article indicating a high level of Indo European breeds. As well as one article speaking on grave sites of foreigners. "Genetic Structure of a 2,500 year old Human Population and its Spatiotemporal Changes and its relevancy to dating mitochondrial DNA of varying populations in the Linzi region of Shandong"
@CaomhanOMurchadha
@CaomhanOMurchadha 23 дня назад
This video was incredible. I was wondering if you might be able to do anything regarding the dispersal of R haplogroups throughout Africa. I was wondering if lactase persistence in Africa is attributable to those populations that must have entered so long ago.
@tobyplumlee7602
@tobyplumlee7602 24 дня назад
Excellent historical entertainment ❤️
@maxwellli7057
@maxwellli7057 19 дней назад
Pardon my ignorance, but could a lot of these Aryan genetic and linguistic borrowings come much more recently through Persia and the silk road? Persians were in and around China and were influential much longer than the ancient Aryans in Xinjiang, historically An Lushan is believed to be an Iranian, for example.
@lghdr6365
@lghdr6365 10 дней назад
Terrible translation. It means heavenly father, and its one of many names.
@Hippiechick11
@Hippiechick11 24 дня назад
It always fascinates me how mobile humanity was with out modern transportation.
@mariqngrigorov2316
@mariqngrigorov2316 20 дней назад
The Russian language is Bulgarian Church Slavonic. Long before the existence of Russian as a language and Russia as a nation, we had a written Bulgarian language. In the Russian language, the word Med is actually a Bulgarian word. Which means honey. In the Bulgarian language, the word MED is to some extent Medicine. This is due to the fact that in the folk medicine of the Bulgarians, many of the potions and recipes contain honey.
@GH-xt5df
@GH-xt5df 19 дней назад
Folk therapy in rural areas of China today still use honey, likewise, in Central Asia (for example Kyrgrzstan.)
@Baitin_Amphibian
@Baitin_Amphibian 17 дней назад
Poland also. The word for honey is (Miód) and it's used in home medicine to treat a cold , you add chopped onion to honey and let the onion juice mix with the honey for about a day
@PatrickKniesler
@PatrickKniesler 18 дней назад
The map of all the different cultures living around the Tarim basin reminds me of the game called Chinese checkers.
@svarupa
@svarupa 16 дней назад
good production! subscribed.
@Toe_Merchant
@Toe_Merchant 8 дней назад
One point about the Jushi Kingdom you didn't mention was that their Chinese name is 車師, literally meaning charioteers or chariot masters. Maybe there's something to this?
@gt1123
@gt1123 24 дня назад
I know you generally focus on European history . But can you do a video on Turks? Or Turkic people? They seem to have a very complex history as well.
@FortressofLugh
@FortressofLugh 23 дня назад
Yes, absolutely!
@gt1123
@gt1123 23 дня назад
@@FortressofLugh you’re awesome Sir!
@hupk5669
@hupk5669 24 дня назад
Love it.
@olcooksy6132
@olcooksy6132 24 дня назад
It's been pointed out a few times already, but I think the definition of "European" in this video seems a bit loose. Linguistically, the arśi are closest to hittites and anatolians; genetically they are closest to Iranians (as I understand it. Genetics are outside my study.) Either Europe goes much further east than I understand it, or being European has nothing to do with living in peninsular west eurasia. I'm really glad someone is covering pre-silk road interactions on the steppes! You are very attentive in presenting your sources and qualifying your conclusions, and I can see the marketability of "Europeans in China" over "R-haplogroup steppe peoples and k-type indoeuropean speakers in eastern eurasia." But while you are careful about your information, I think the terms like "European origins" is too close to hamite fantasy. "Indo-European" is a much less precise term, but it doesn't add such unnecessary implications.
@GWT1m0
@GWT1m0 23 дня назад
Lots of "Aryans" in the chat claiming many things.
@ashleigh3021
@ashleigh3021 23 дня назад
Yeah, you don’t use “R-Haplogroup peoples” because that’s completely meaningless babble. The origin of individuals in question is Europe. You don’t like that because it implies Europeans achieved highly even in prehistory.
@jenningscunningham642
@jenningscunningham642 23 дня назад
I always thought Europe was west of the Ural Mountains
@olcooksy6132
@olcooksy6132 22 дня назад
@@ashleigh3021 Prehistoric Europeans built megaliths, developed tin mining and smelting, set up trade networks over thousands of miles, and domesticated thousands of species. I don't mean to object to their achievement. But some of the language in this video seems to use "European" in a murky way. If the Indo-European speakers of the Tarim were "European," then are their descendants (Paxtuns, Yaghnovs, and Tadziks) also? And if Indo-European language/culture/ancestry is what makes a people "European," then are Hungarians, Finns, and Basques not Europeans?
@ario2264
@ario2264 22 дня назад
@@olcooksy6132 He didn't say that Indo-European ancestry is what makes someone European, just that the Indo-Europeans were originally European.
@skeletalforce9673
@skeletalforce9673 20 дней назад
Hi guys, does someone have literature recommendations about this topic? I'd like to learn more about this.
@chadfromchad4662
@chadfromchad4662 24 дня назад
A video on buddhism and early chinese dynasties would be amazing
@andyxyz01
@andyxyz01 24 дня назад
Very odd choice of a picture for a thumbnail. Your thumbnail uses a map of the tang dynasty. The difference between the Tang dynasty and Bronze Age China is almost 1,000 years. Would you use a map of the Ottoman Empire to represent Ancient Greece? Would you use a map of the Roman Empire to represent ancient Egypt? Would you use a map of the Siberian Magyars to represent modern Hungarians?
@bobbiusshadow6985
@bobbiusshadow6985 21 день назад
I love to fart in my hand and bring it up to take a good whiff
@tristate0mind
@tristate0mind 19 дней назад
plz more videos on this topic and related
@galynnzitnik4600
@galynnzitnik4600 22 дня назад
I am interested in DNA analysis of the cattle and horses and other livestock. Such analysis of animal remains buried in ancient tombs could be used to create a timeline of the introduction of such animals from west to east. Another interesting aspect concerns climate change (the desertification) leading to funneling of people through the mountain passes into the Wei river valley and the founding of the city of Chang'an. Could the introduction of copper/bronze and horses/chariots be the reason that Chang'an served as the capitol city of 10 chinese dynasties?
@M0ebius
@M0ebius 20 дней назад
How can you tell which way the word transfer goes even if you find similarities?
@occultangle
@occultangle 19 дней назад
Yes, any videos about Buddhism would be much appreciated.
@Tinbury2023
@Tinbury2023 24 дня назад
Can you explain if these are people who travelled form Europe to China or if they are Indo-European speakers from Asia?
@71kimg
@71kimg 23 дня назад
The “original” people - the yamnaya - comes from the steppes between Europe and Asia - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamnaya_culture
@user-lx5qf3rd2h
@user-lx5qf3rd2h 20 дней назад
Early from Persia, during the Empire period, Alexander established 8 city-states in Afghanistan
@Alarix246
@Alarix246 21 день назад
11:42 I would dare to raise another topic as to the origin of "mare": in my language (Czech) we say "nightmare" as "noční můra". Můra is a moth, a butterfly with wings. But obviously it was originally still the mare, but it is forgotten. But consider this: The horses were introduced into Europe together with Yamnaya horse riders. They didn't bring only horses, but also death, destruction and bubonic plague. In Czech, the bubonic plague is called "mor". Is it a coincidence that the riders on their mares brought mor? That's one thing. Another one is, Moravia (Morava in Czech) region is named, according to linguists, from the moorelands, as the river had many bogs. Of course moor is so similar to its Czech meaning that I won't bother even with explaining how it comes about. That's where the linguists close the story. But is it possible that the moor in Moravia is older than they can imagine, and that the origin of the word "moor" is also coming from the earlier "mor"/plague brought to Europe by the horseriders? If not, why are these words so similar (mort, mortis, mortal), and what was earlier? Is the origin of our I-E word for horse stemming from death which it originally introduced to Europe?
@Adil_Turysbek_TVRC
@Adil_Turysbek_TVRC 21 день назад
In mongolian mori means horse.
@BE74297
@BE74297 17 дней назад
Moor also means dark-skinned or swarthy and or possibly a jewish association.
@beatsbykana
@beatsbykana 22 дня назад
19:45 dude knows what's up!!
@user-sc6dp8si2i
@user-sc6dp8si2i 18 дней назад
I remembered in the papers that I read, there were skulls excavated from Anyang Yinxu ruins that resembled Indo-European features. Protruded nose with visibly apparent Caucasoid feature. How did they get there? Possibly through marriages that got buried as human sacrifice alongside the dead king or possibly slaves captured by the Shang. The Shang worship their god using human sacrifice, so they regularly waged war with the western barbarians and celebrated it with mass killings. It was mentioned in the oracle bones that those western barbarians have distinct feature than the Han. Ya, so people with Indo-European ancestry might have entered the Chinese heartland during the Bronze Age. But most of them are systematically erased out of existence during the Shang period. According to archeologists, there are estimated 13,000 people were sacrificed during the period of the Shang. The bone counts are terrifying. So guess where did Shang get those people from? From the barbarians. Eastwards, northwards, southwards, and westwards. They waged wars on those barbarian tribes so they can get enough human heads for the grand sacrifice.
@lghdr6365
@lghdr6365 10 дней назад
Most of the people making up theories can't read Chinese. So they don't realize they are trying to claim groups with unfortunate fates, while trying to connect with Chinese. The funny thing is those groups don't have anything to do with white people. Simplified we are talking about Western steppe herders which are descended from Eastern. It's well established the progenitors is the Ancient North Eurasian group. Ie. Tianyuan man.
@mudra5114
@mudra5114 23 дня назад
Interestingly the Northern Indian term for cow is Gaye or gou. And honey is called madhu. Sweet as in 'sweet voice' is called madhur. Cognate to mead.
@Asturies.Sixtus.v
@Asturies.Sixtus.v 3 дня назад
Great 👍
@dogeren0096
@dogeren0096 22 дня назад
Me and my family are originated from Shaanxi, and I can definitely tell that my mother and my younger cousins does not share the exact same identical Han Asian looks, although is not very significant and not many people can tell except people close to them like myself
@rogervandusen8361
@rogervandusen8361 21 день назад
Over the last few days I have been ding a "deep dive" into the origins of chariot warfare and its roots on the Eurasian steppe.
@subcitizen2012
@subcitizen2012 22 дня назад
Chicken and egg darlin. We've been using bows and arrows and spears made out of things like wood and bone waaaaay longer than we were using metal.
@kubhlaikhan2015
@kubhlaikhan2015 24 дня назад
Where better to develop advanced skills in medicine, philosophy, metalwork, weaving and farming than by straddling the silk road. I think it is the fount of both eastern and western civilizations.
@AnakLuckNutz
@AnakLuckNutz 23 дня назад
0:37 interesting the word for honey in Malay/Indonesian is madu but it could be a loanword from Sanskrit
@fredriks5090
@fredriks5090 23 дня назад
"Sanskrit" sounds like "Truescript" to modern scandis, and Siddhartha Gautama at first glance seems like an obvious eastern-gothic form of "Sigurdr Gautamadr" [Sigfried Gothman]
@laszloerdesz3884
@laszloerdesz3884 17 дней назад
I am criticizing. You made a photo moment of time. People migrated here and there on the steppe. The first migration was the Seimo Turbino peoples. They conquered all of Eurasia, from Scandinavia to Thailand. They were a mixed people, mongolid and Europid They are ancestors of the finn-ugric languages. According to Sigmund Heist, the ancestors of the Finno-Ugric peoples also played a role in the creation of the ancient Germanic language. Then came the Indo-Europeans, their last wave was the Sakas. All of them went tothe East.The Huns come from the territory of the Shan dynasty. some of them migrated back to China. Some of them came to Europe. The Kipchaks, Avars and Pechenegs settled in the territory of today's Hungary partly. Kipchakks first homeland was Mandzsúria. The avars first homeland was South Siberia, Mongólia and nowdays north China.Then came the Mongol conquest. The opposite of this is the Russian imperial conquest coming from East Europe. The Mongolian fold occurs among the northern types and in Eastern Europe. It is more common among Hungarians due to the so-called Alföldi type. This is a Central Asian type variation.The opposite of your reasoning is also possible. None of them can be proven.
@bertrecht913
@bertrecht913 9 дней назад
Nah. They Dominion were from modern day Finland to Western Kazakhstan and Indo Europeans/ Aryans were the first people and their influence over the world is the greatest not some finno ugric or turk tribes.
@laszloerdesz3884
@laszloerdesz3884 8 дней назад
@@bertrecht913Nowdays is just a historical moment. It doesn't matter what we call ourselves. Nations religions come and go, but people stay on same place. Everything else is just a mirage
@bertrecht913
@bertrecht913 8 дней назад
@@laszloerdesz3884 Yeah sure but it matters more than you think!
@unkledanbot
@unkledanbot 24 дня назад
I was just wondering about the Chinese bronze age during the bronze age collapse so i needed this video
@thx1168
@thx1168 24 дня назад
Interesting, why is that?
@savannahshepherd2283
@savannahshepherd2283 24 дня назад
Tyvm very informative
@ThursonJames
@ThursonJames 24 дня назад
19:45 You could divine just about anything with 789g… 😶‍🌫️
@cwlai7983
@cwlai7983 23 дня назад
the direction of that symbol is anticlockwise but the swastika is clockwise
@SuperVlerik
@SuperVlerik 23 дня назад
Great video. I learned a lot. Thanks! I'd love to see some content regarding histories of current Indigenous Asian peoples, from both Siberia and within what is now claimed by China.
@t_ornatus
@t_ornatus 24 дня назад
Indo-European ≠ European
@ashleigh3021
@ashleigh3021 23 дня назад
Right. They’re just European.
@cosmoray9750
@cosmoray9750 22 дня назад
cais-soas.com/CAIS/History/Post-Sasanian/pirooz.htm
@peterj9351
@peterj9351 22 дня назад
Indo-European is something of a misnomer, which was adopted to replace a different term after WW2 for political reasons.
@KingoftheJiangl
@KingoftheJiangl 22 дня назад
​@@peterj9351 Not politically concerned... But do you mean aryans? Is it actually inappropriate to utter?
@samaval9920
@samaval9920 22 дня назад
@@KingoftheJianglInd European language family includes from S Asia, parts of Mid E, parts of Caucasus, most of Europe,parts of N America &’S America.
@Doctor_Manhattan777
@Doctor_Manhattan777 23 дня назад
Amazing video 👏 yes please do one about spread of Buddhism and the Vedic philosophy/ spreading around that region; what’s wild is when you research this stuff they all claim some sort of connection to the “great aryans” even the 8 fold path was historically called The authentic Aryan Eightfold Path of Buddhism - so much lost to time and pc culture
@lghdr6365
@lghdr6365 10 дней назад
Aryans as in Central Asian steppes. As in steppe herders that all stem from Ancient North Eurasian (ANE). As for vedic and buddhists Vedic literature therefore considered the populations of Greater Magadha as existing outside of the limits of Āryāvarta, with the Manusmṛiti grouping the Vaidehas, Māgadhīs, Licchavikas, and Mallakas, who were the neighbours of the Shakyas, as being "non-Aryan"
@heyokaempath5802
@heyokaempath5802 22 дня назад
In the days before Peleg, the earth was one landmass. Before the Tower of Babel in Babylon (Iraq today), we had a one-world language. That is why words are sometimes very closely related.
@aidanmcmillan-dx8lq
@aidanmcmillan-dx8lq 22 дня назад
lolol
@SergeyShL
@SergeyShL 23 дня назад
Taking in account a Sino-Caucasian theory, could be Indo-European words borrowed by Hurrians and brought to Sino-Tibetians when they went East?
@SchinkenDerHoffnung
@SchinkenDerHoffnung 24 дня назад
what does the mandarin sign in the thumbnail mean??
@olcooksy6132
@olcooksy6132 24 дня назад
車 chē is the character for vehicle/chariot he describes at 15:27.
@SchinkenDerHoffnung
@SchinkenDerHoffnung 23 дня назад
@@olcooksy6132 like in "chew chew-train" ??
@peterfireflylund
@peterfireflylund 22 дня назад
@@SchinkenDerHoffnungno. It’s closer to “cher”. Why don’t you just look it up?
@aceflaviuskaizokuaugustusc8427
@aceflaviuskaizokuaugustusc8427 22 дня назад
@@SchinkenDerHoffnung It just means vehicle basically and you slap on other words for it to like add the character for fire 火车 means train. Nowadays 车 means car for most people.
@aceflaviuskaizokuaugustusc8427
@aceflaviuskaizokuaugustusc8427 22 дня назад
@@SchinkenDerHoffnung Also to clarify but 车 is the simplified form used
@peterwong8186
@peterwong8186 21 день назад
Could I be the descendant of the ancient Indo European tribes who settled in China? Do I have some DNA of Afanasievo and Tulgarian blood within me? If I am a distant descendant, my family with ancient Indo European blood had ended up in Southeast China in the province of Guangtong. Fortress of Lugh is welcome to do DNA research on me since a lot of Chinese told me that I don't look like 100% Chinese
@candylandi5351
@candylandi5351 21 день назад
Very noice, this is the most complete video about the ancient Europeans in China with the new genetic and archeological results I found. And if the Small Hats can claim Israel, now we Europeans can claim western China. ;)
@lghdr6365
@lghdr6365 10 дней назад
It has nothing to do with white people. Western steppe herders were descended from Eastern. Ancient North Eurasian (ANE) are the progenitors to what you are pretending has anything to do with you.
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