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THE EVE OF BATTLE: The Opposing Air Forces In The 1973 War 

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Air superiority remains a fundamental element in the Israeli strategic and tactical concept. The Yom Kippur War of 1973 saw the IDF/AF face its most severe challenge. Most people instantly think about the SAM umbrella over Suez as the basis of that challenge. And it is true that the SA-6 was a brutal surprise that claimed many planes and lives.
But both Egypt and Syria had resurgent air forces at the outset of the conflict. In this video I've attempted to break down the orders of battle of Israel, Egypt and Syria in the days leading up to October 6th. My aim is to give an objective assessment of the air-to-air capabilities of both sides, their strengths and weaknesses. Hopefully I've achieved that!
Apologies if on occasion there are some 20-30 second segments with the same imagery. I found it hard to locate royalty-free video on this topic, which is a shame, but is what it is! I hope the scripting makes up somewhat.

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@criscristina8380
@criscristina8380 6 месяцев назад
I’m a retired Naval Intelligence Officer. For a while I specialized in an array of Air Intelligence activities in the Navy Reserve that included duty at TOPGUN and StrikeU and during the 70’s was heavily engaged in Middle East Air Forces capabilities studies. You have done an excellent job in producing these videos . Your detailed analysis of multiple factors and conclusions are exceptional. Bravo Zulu!
@DaveSCameron
@DaveSCameron День назад
Bravo Sheiss
@bearshrimp
@bearshrimp 8 месяцев назад
Great video, 99.9% of aviation history videos on RU-vid dealing with the Arab-Isralei conflict are just IDF fanboi videos. So refreshing to see a video that focuses on the Arab forces.
@ID-8491
@ID-8491 8 месяцев назад
IDF is not an airforce.
@socaljarhead7670
@socaljarhead7670 8 месяцев назад
The SA-6 was a huge shock to the Israelis and the west as a whole. Very effective missile system at the time.
@ericatkinson7006
@ericatkinson7006 8 месяцев назад
Very effective at shooting down Egyptian aircraft.
@tetraxis3011
@tetraxis3011 7 месяцев назад
@@ericatkinson7006Copium on a video about the Yom Kippur war against Russian stuff? That’s a new low. The West back then wasn’t dumb and knew and respected their adversaries equipment when it performed well.
@arthas640
@arthas640 7 месяцев назад
​@@tetraxis3011seems like the western made equipment performed better though. The Arabs lost nearly double the number of aircraft despite more SAMs, more aircraft, and the element of surprise on their side. Admittedly based off what I've heard and read the Israeli pilots were much better trained since the Israeli army has always been small so they've always focused on being more well trained and pound for pound better than their Arab enemies.
@tetraxis3011
@tetraxis3011 7 месяцев назад
@@arthas640 You just explained why Israel did better. The one thing where the West clearly had an edge over the USSR here was in the heat seeking missiles and Radar(Phantoms). The USSR made up for these flaws by integrating fighters into a large tactical air defense network, but the Arabs did not have this.
@arthas640
@arthas640 7 месяцев назад
@@tetraxis3011 didn't know about the integrated system. Sounds a lot like what the US did in Desert Storm.
@jona.scholt4362
@jona.scholt4362 8 месяцев назад
I known I've posted this in earlier videos but I cannot say it enough; it is ridiculous how much good content this channel puts out in quantity. It has quickly joined the ranks as one of the premier military aviation channels. This channel is steadily growing but I have no doubt in my mind that it'll pass the 100k mark in the not to distant future if the quality and quantity remains the same. Also, I posted this comment to help placate the Gods of the Almighty Algorithm ! Can't wait for the next video.
@kevinchristensen84
@kevinchristensen84 7 месяцев назад
Al.....MIGHTY algorithm? For some reason, that thought makes me wish my name was Kratos.😉
@724bigal
@724bigal 7 месяцев назад
Lots of homework being applied here for sure
@totensiebush
@totensiebush 8 месяцев назад
13:05 you refer to "Libyan MIG 5D", you mean Mirage 5D right? Sure looks like one, and then you mention that Israel had them too.
@brianrmc1963
@brianrmc1963 8 месяцев назад
Once again I am amazed at the high quality of the videos. These are mini-movies. Israel let us use their night, low-altitude-training (LAT) ranges before we did a “port call” into Haifa. I was struck by how small the country is, smaller than many Restricted Areas we trained in in the United States. It really must have been like fighting in a phone booth. I feel the most sorry for the Syrians. It appears their pilots really wanted to give it a go but didn’t have the missiles or guns to do it with.
@amdg2023
@amdg2023 10 минут назад
For some strange reason I keep watching these videos, there very interesting and presented well but its the information that makes them in my opinion.
@zman1508
@zman1508 8 месяцев назад
Love this channel
@Senor0Droolcup
@Senor0Droolcup 8 месяцев назад
I thought I knew the air war part of the Yom Kippur war, but I learned a ton from this video. This order of battle approach is extremely useful in understanding the approaches that the competing air forces talk before and during the conflict. Please keep it up.
@kenjones2973
@kenjones2973 8 месяцев назад
Keep it coming. Far and away the best military aviation contributor currently operating. I am routinely humbled by how little I actually know in the jet warfare space, until your channel popped up. Cheers, watch you again soon.
@mohammedsaysrashid3587
@mohammedsaysrashid3587 7 месяцев назад
Informative and professional introduction video about aviation stroke during keppor war ...How superiority of aircraft's quality ,its weapons and IDF manpower of was notable...while Both Egypt 🇪🇬 and Syria 🇸🇾 gained some successful through utilizing of anti-airdefences Sam missiles nets.. thank you for sharing
@majorbloodnok6659
@majorbloodnok6659 8 месяцев назад
I remember this war in 1973; with the passage of time, I look forward to your take on this war.
@cliffalcorn2423
@cliffalcorn2423 8 месяцев назад
Another outstanding presentation. Thank you. Keep it up.
@hmmjedi
@hmmjedi 8 месяцев назад
As someone who has studied the Arab Israeli peace and wars this is a great piece of work with regards the main air forces arrayed against each other at the start of the 1973 war...
@tristanaycock7447
@tristanaycock7447 8 месяцев назад
Another Great Video, One of the Best Military Jet Channels there is. Thank You for all your hard work that you put into each Video, Always enjoy ever second of it.
@vickydroid
@vickydroid 8 месяцев назад
I remember as this war unfolded and the crossing of the Suez and how surprised we all were at the initial sucess of the Arab forces. Just watched your excellent prelude video, cant wait for the rest, slightly peturbed that this was 50 years ago....I remember then reading the Newsweek articles from then and listening to the barbers animated discussion about what'll happen next.. didn't expect the Oil Crisis and Sheik Yamani being the most apt name for a Saudi Oil minister...
@Ubique2927
@Ubique2927 8 месяцев назад
Everyone was surprised until we learned that only about 500 Israeli soldiers were on the canal. Defense in depth.
@vickydroid
@vickydroid 8 месяцев назад
@@Ubique2927 Yes, I guess they thought the sand berms were an adequate passive defence but Egyptian Engineers had a genius solution, many many lessons were yet to be learnt on both sides Arab and Israeli including USSR and the US. Bravery and high Attrition on both sides and a consequent logistics contest I think the US won by a sizeable margin. I remember a very different world back then, so many alignments now so different.
@Wardads1
@Wardads1 8 месяцев назад
I have a Warhammer miniature of a mercenary paymaster called" Sheikh Yadosh" .Must be " first cousin to Sheikh Yamani"
@i-a-g-r-e-e-----f-----jo--b
@i-a-g-r-e-e-----f-----jo--b 8 месяцев назад
Awesome history video, thanks! So many wars to study, so little time.
@uha6477
@uha6477 8 месяцев назад
This is a really good vid. It's well researched, informative, and balanced.
@PosthumousAddress
@PosthumousAddress 3 месяца назад
This channel is amazing, the level of detail is unique and fascinating
@ro.stan.4115
@ro.stan.4115 8 месяцев назад
Excellent channel. Love your work
@briantoplessbar4685
@briantoplessbar4685 7 месяцев назад
Great video! Excellent research and delivery!! You are a pro👏👏👏
@alanmoffat4454
@alanmoffat4454 8 месяцев назад
THESE ARE WELL PUT TOGETHER , THANK YOU FOR A FULL UNDERSTAND OF WHAT EVER HAPPENED. 😮😊
@Sean-wm1gn
@Sean-wm1gn 3 месяца назад
GOBBLESS
@Wien1938
@Wien1938 8 месяцев назад
That was fascinating. Cheers!
@paintnamer6403
@paintnamer6403 8 месяцев назад
@17:10 I like the guitar hanging in the pilots outdoor station.
@marcusott2973
@marcusott2973 8 месяцев назад
I always believed to be well versed in the run up to this conflict, militarily, politically and intelligence services. Up till now there's 3 substantial facts I'd never heard of, and it's only the 2nd ad break. Excellent work. Very underated and underviewed channel.
@StoneCresent
@StoneCresent 8 месяцев назад
To my knowledge, the MiG-25s stationed in Egypt were either R or RB models, i.e. reconnaissance versions. The use of the latter as a conventional bomber, while possible, would be questionable in effectiveness.
@miquelescribanoivars5049
@miquelescribanoivars5049 8 месяцев назад
IIRC you are right, no MiG-25P's are known to had been deployed.
@macmac0712
@macmac0712 8 месяцев назад
the MiG-25RB was designed to be a bomber though and it had a automatic bombing system as well as a hefty payload of 8(10) FAB-500 1100lb bombs, 2 on each wing and 4 on belly pylons later upgraded to 6 on the belly
@nickhimaras9331
@nickhimaras9331 4 месяца назад
(There is no "Mig VB" but there is a Mirage VB as shown in the photos.) Great content and analysis! Looking forward to much more. Congratulations!
@whos1st
@whos1st 8 месяцев назад
Your content is just exceptional!
@mikegrimm2253
@mikegrimm2253 8 месяцев назад
Excellent video, love this kind of stuff
@doktorwyzzerd
@doktorwyzzerd 8 месяцев назад
Hi, just wanted to give you a compliment and some encouragement, I think your videos are the best content on cold war aerial warfare I’ve seen anywhere, and thats saying something because theres a lot of excellent content out there. Keep up the good work and I look forward to your future posts. Thank you for all of the great work that you do.
@rogerkay8603
@rogerkay8603 8 месяцев назад
Loving your work fella!
@StromBugSlayer
@StromBugSlayer 8 месяцев назад
Interesting to hear about the possible impact of the lack of what I would term depth to the Egyptian aircraft maintenance / support and their ability to correct battle damage. I very much fear that the US is in a similarly weak position today, with far too much dependence on sub contractors, under trained maintainers, and horribly snarled supply lines for parts, evidenced in part by extremely poor readiness numbers for aircraft like the F-35. Sub Brief took a good look at this recently for anybody interested.
@dtrain1634
@dtrain1634 8 месяцев назад
This channel is better than most :) very good 👍
@HuxleysShaggyDog
@HuxleysShaggyDog 7 месяцев назад
Well this was well timed
@arvindno117
@arvindno117 3 месяца назад
Great video. Well researched and informative. At about 13:00 the voice over calls the aircraft a Mig-5 when i am sure you meant Mirage-5. Nevertheless, another quality video from a great channel. Keep up the good work.
@jr7392
@jr7392 8 месяцев назад
Thanks again for a great video. The Osprey title "Arab MiG-19 & MiG-21 Units in Combat" makes for fascinating reading. The Arab pilots were not as incompetent as supposed and if they had had a decent AAM, Israeli casualties would have been a lot higher. As it was, they did well given their handicaps. The conventional wisdom is that the various arab air forces were hapless targets for the ten-foot-tall IAF warriors but the fact that the U.S. had to strip F-4s from active USAF units to send to Israel (some even still in USAF markings!) says a lot. Granted, a lot of those IAF losses were from the new SA-6 that came as a nasty shock, but the MiG-21 pilots gave a decent account of themselves. Even the MiG-19 might have been a good platform if the EAF hadn't decided they were worthless for the role because by most accounts it was a good dogfighter in the right hands. I still hope you do a video on Operation Rimon 20 if you can find enough source material.
@wor53lg50
@wor53lg50 7 месяцев назад
​@@generalspeccles730oi ney!...
@antoniocarrascosa6060
@antoniocarrascosa6060 8 месяцев назад
Magnífico trabajo, enhorabuena
@richardque4952
@richardque4952 8 месяцев назад
Soviet set up there own Top Gun program in the late 60s.but the soviet refusal to allow the arabs pilot to train along side with soviet pilot.this lead to high attrition lost among the arab pilot.
@ufukpolat3480
@ufukpolat3480 8 месяцев назад
Tom Cooper is an expert in this field. His explanation is that Arab leaders didn't trust their pilots and usually picked them from less competent but believed to be loyal airmen. More importantly they feared undue influence from Soviet leadership so it wasn't only a one sided street as you present. It's a well known fact that Arab military officers didn't share a lot of information about their plans with the Soviets which has been to their detriment under multiple scenarios.
@datrevmeister
@datrevmeister 7 месяцев назад
Rusia no good
@richardque4952
@richardque4952 7 месяцев назад
During the iran iraq war.iraq complain the poor performance of soviet fighter decided to buy french mirage f1 ,soviet decided to make concession allowing the iraq acess to soviet top gun program.
@danward1070
@danward1070 7 месяцев назад
13:06 did you mean Mirage 5B?
@sueleegiou3785
@sueleegiou3785 7 месяцев назад
Correction: A.Sattar Alvi was named master of migs after the engagement with Israelis over Golan Heights.. He was named that because at that time there were no mig21's in Pakistan inventory, and most of the PAF pilots on arrival in Syria had never flown mig 21's which had cockpit instruments labelled in either Russian or Arabic, which added the to the headache for volunteer PAF pilots.PAF had F6(chinese mig 19's) upto that period. He became the top main instructor of F7(chinese variant of mig21) after their induction in PAF. A.Sattar Alvi was sent to Syria SAAF initially and not to the Egypt.
@goddepersonno3782
@goddepersonno3782 7 месяцев назад
what a video to release, mere days before the cycle repeats itself once again and it seems that the analysis was prophetic for the same problems the Israelis are facing today
@tomlepski8306
@tomlepski8306 7 месяцев назад
A very well researched documentary.
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman 5 месяцев назад
Great video...👍
@plflaherty1
@plflaherty1 8 месяцев назад
Great video!
@Manbemanbe
@Manbemanbe 8 месяцев назад
Just as good as I thought it was going to be. Great video. Can you pretty please do a part two about the actual battle?!
@jlvfr
@jlvfr 8 месяцев назад
Another excelent video!
@MM22966
@MM22966 7 месяцев назад
Serious respect for this. You comprehensively list all the combatants, and from a perspective of real capabilities, training, combat experience, professionalism, hardware standards, airframe availability/reliability, and actual weapons performance, rather than merely quoting Janes/what people THINK a particular platform does on paper, like it is some kind of military hitbox RPG game.
@dubmeisterxd2133
@dubmeisterxd2133 8 месяцев назад
I'd really love to see a continuation video on the war. One of my favorite parts of aviation history. Great video
@1joshjosh1
@1joshjosh1 8 месяцев назад
Holy crap this was released 15 minutes ago. I'm there dude
@billmasson5313
@billmasson5313 8 месяцев назад
Fantastic content! Well researched, thorough, and excellent background & context! Please keep up the good work! Not to be nitpicky, & perhaps someone here already pointed it out , but at 13:04 I think perhaps you meant Mirage instead of Mig 5b's? Anyway, thanks for a good in-depth analysis. Well done.
@JoseMartinez-wy8jb
@JoseMartinez-wy8jb 7 месяцев назад
What an attractive subject. Airpower from 1916 battles to the present, cannot wait from more subjects on the matter. Regarding the video, well paced, good graphics, and, more importantly, great explanation. Looking forward to more. Just a minor detail, we cannot underestimate the surface to air weaponry, it has been a factor in many air conflicts, specially in 1973 Middle East conflicts.
@wolumandreas1130
@wolumandreas1130 8 месяцев назад
Fabulous, well researched presentations; thank you.
@cartersmith8560
@cartersmith8560 7 месяцев назад
the air battle of El mansoura was a sight to behold, and its outcome is celebrated to this day by the EAF
@ThePckupelan
@ThePckupelan 8 месяцев назад
During yom kippur war, Israel modified their A4 with extended exhaust nozzle with the intention of minimizing damage from SAM. Does it have drawbacks like drag or thrust penalty..? Been trying to find about it but couldn’t find it. Thanks 🙏.
@francishruszka877
@francishruszka877 8 месяцев назад
There may be useful information on the A4 mod in the Osprey books on aces,the A4 etc .
@notapound
@notapound 8 месяцев назад
The ‘barrel’, I think it was called. I believe the intention was to move the detonation point of the proximity fuse further back and, as you say, reduce damage. Instinctively I’d say that it probably reduces thrust a bit as you’re reducing the exhaust speed through increased friction and changing the shape of the nozzle. I’ll have a look at it though. Great question! Thanks!
@neilturner6749
@neilturner6749 8 месяцев назад
@@francishruszka877I’m pretty sure it’s not mentioned in any worthwhile detail in any of the well-known Skyhawk history books
@aegeanphantom
@aegeanphantom 8 месяцев назад
I am pretty sure it was mainly intended for countering heat seeking MANPADS and maybe to a lesser extend bigger SAMs, because of the former having a very small warhead of around 1kg (SA-7) and the fact that their method of guidance made the missile hit the aircraft in the tail section. A couple of meters would not make a difference when an SA-2 detonates its 200kg blast-fragmentation warhead, or even the smaller 60-70kg of the SA-3. It is described in the Shlomo Aloni book, Israeli A-4 Skyhawk Units in Combat. Great video btw.
@anon-iraq2655
@anon-iraq2655 7 месяцев назад
It has weight draw back for sure
@jimsaintamour2
@jimsaintamour2 7 месяцев назад
This is an astounding and fantastic study of the air war in 1973...thank you for this! Amazing...
@AdurianJ
@AdurianJ 19 дней назад
Aim-9B was still the standard in most of the western world at the time. It was to the J/P/N versions of the sidewinder that the AIM-9B was upgraded. Israel had the 9L in 1981 which the UK did not get until the Falklands. It was a Johnsson administration policy to provide Israel with the best weapons the US had and this has been every administrations policy since.
@blackcorp0001
@blackcorp0001 7 месяцев назад
Dense stuff ... going to need s rewatch 😮ty Good Sir
@notapound
@notapound 7 месяцев назад
Ha! Yes. It did turn out a bit that way. I think I got a bit too into the detail...
@vikramputtanna3333
@vikramputtanna3333 3 месяца назад
@@notapoundon the other hand, the details in your work are what holds up and makes for such fascinating and clear insights from your side. Keep it up, you have another fan in me here.
@miquelescribanoivars5049
@miquelescribanoivars5049 8 месяцев назад
7:57 The PFM is a further development of the PFS and had the SPS blown flap system as standard. There really isn't a neat divide between the PFS and the PFM, and apparently, the PFM designation only started to be used long after the PFS had received all the modifications (redesigned canopy, enlarged vertical stabilizer, upgraded engine and radar) that defined the PFM.
@Reagae-fv3cp
@Reagae-fv3cp 3 месяца назад
It’s amazing how quickly aircraft have become completely irrelevant with properly used modern SAM’s
@AndrewGivens
@AndrewGivens 7 месяцев назад
These are always well-researched, constructed and presented videos. Many thanks. It is just so enormously regrettable - and tragic - that the events of the past weekend have occurred, spoiling this neutral historical assessment with unavoidable 'live' comparisons. May peace come soon. For both communities.
@kden9772
@kden9772 7 месяцев назад
There’s a maneuver called a “Syrian lead turn” where two aircraft merge and the Syrian aircraft turns first such that it is either out front or almost out front of the opposing aircraft.
@vikramputtanna3333
@vikramputtanna3333 3 месяца назад
Wonderfully thought out analysis. Thank you so much, much appreciated. I wonder if you would consider an unbiased study of the Indian and Pakistani wars and their tactics please? Your analysis is unbiased and fair and I for one would love to get your perspective of those conflicts, judging that some of the weapon systems are quite similar ( apart from replacing the phantom with the star fighter in this scenario ) with assumed quite different results. Thanking you in anticipation and keep up the stellar work. Cheers.
@notapound
@notapound 2 месяца назад
Thanks - appreciate the kind thoughts. I am planning to do that. A very interesting subject, but it is a long process to gather the research material. Lots to learn!
@patrickunderwood5662
@patrickunderwood5662 8 месяцев назад
This is a production technical question, with no criticism intended toward your EXCELLENT content. Why can’t aspect ratio be adjusted? On so many videos using stock footage I’ve seen narrow aspect widened, and wide aspect narrowed, seemingly with no rhyme or reason. You’re a fantastically meticulous researcher, so there must a reason for these discrepancies in your own videos-if not in others’. What’s the issue?
@notapound
@notapound 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for the comment and glad you enjoyed the video. I source the videos from all sorts of places and they come in different formats - mostly ‘squarer’ ratios. To be honest, I’m a complete amateur on the video production side of things, so there probably is a way of fixing the aspect ratio. I tend to like to include as much of the footage as I can in there rather than trim it. Short answer - I need to dedicate some time to learning the editing. Any suggestions much appreciated!
@vasilis23456
@vasilis23456 7 месяцев назад
​@@notapoundI usually don't like stretched video, so it's usually best to either keep the black bars in its default format, or zoom to fill the screen if there is no need to see the edges of the source material. The choice is more stylistic than anything.
@Jareers-ef8hp
@Jareers-ef8hp 8 месяцев назад
Will there be a part 2 to this?
@JamesLaserpimpWalsh
@JamesLaserpimpWalsh 8 месяцев назад
Cheers. Subbed.
@sufianansari4923
@sufianansari4923 8 месяцев назад
5:15 Sattar Alvi, ps excuse me sir but isn't that a Mirage III I am seeing here 13:05?
@m1911legend
@m1911legend 8 месяцев назад
Noob question but I cant find info online, what the hell is positive delta mach
@neilturner6749
@neilturner6749 8 месяцев назад
My best interpretation was that he meant that the launching aircraft had a speed advantage over the target aircraft it was chasing I.e. the missile didn’t have to overcome an initial disadvantage in airspeed vs it’s target when launched…
@m1911legend
@m1911legend 8 месяцев назад
@@neilturner6749 thank
@b.elzebub9252
@b.elzebub9252 2 месяца назад
Why did the Egyptians have such a large number of their most capable fighters like the MIG-21 and MIG-25 in storage? Was there a reason why the Soviets would have the MIG-25's in storage in Egypt? Seems odd to me to ship those over but then not have them operational?
@franktreppiedi2208
@franktreppiedi2208 7 месяцев назад
Look, it's the PU 36 Explosive Space Tumbleweed!
@stephenwalling5878
@stephenwalling5878 8 месяцев назад
When I was in the navy I had operatuniny to talk some Israeli defense soldiers and they said a lot of things I can't repeat, even today, but I can tell that they loved the m-16 for its lightness and it's firepower.
@frednoname3714
@frednoname3714 7 месяцев назад
Great historical.❤ Just after 6 days war De Gaulle (FR) dicided ambargo against Israël who had Mirage III and was looking at Mirage V ( cheaper with lighter electronics) so Israël with Marcel DASSAULT secret help... ( AKA Marcel Bloch went 8 months at Bunkenwald because didn't coop with nazi + jewish) they manage to built the "NESHER" that still had a French ATAR engine, that mossad manage to find with U.D ?? ... later Israël "stoled" plans of mirage ( in swiss probably with Dassault help ?? ) and create Kfir with US engine services 1975. In 1973 Mirage III/V did incredible job, ultra reliable flying hundreds hours with NO service at all !!! Just refuel, rearm, changes exhaust pilots. Propably never happened such avaibility in aviation history hopeefully lots of F4 .. thx very good vid.
@weld546
@weld546 8 месяцев назад
13:05 Mig 5B ?
@AnimalMother207
@AnimalMother207 8 месяцев назад
Mirage-5B?
@danward1070
@danward1070 7 месяцев назад
13:05 did you mean Mirage 5B?
@geek211
@geek211 7 месяцев назад
condisdering whats happening today..10/7/23 this is super relevant...
@archiebotten4061
@archiebotten4061 7 месяцев назад
time for round two I guess
@flatcapfiddle
@flatcapfiddle 8 месяцев назад
I do think the MiG 21 bears a passing resemblance to the English Electric Lightning. But with its Engines placed horizontally.
@kieranh2005
@kieranh2005 8 месяцев назад
Mig 21 has only one engine.
@charlestaylor253
@charlestaylor253 7 месяцев назад
Actually the Soviet aircraft in the MiG-21 family that most resembled the EE Lightning, (and far exceeded it's blistering speed, acceleration, climb, and high altitude capability), were the little-known late-50's and early-'60's era experimental heavy MiG interceptors of the 'Ye-' series. These twin, and later, single-engined fighter's, (which never entered service), performance rivalled that of the much later MiG-25 in terms of high-Mach speed and altitude...
@Group73historians73
@Group73historians73 8 месяцев назад
join us for more videos about 1973 war
@imalikojislobodan
@imalikojislobodan 18 дней назад
27:30 Croatian Mig-21 over the island of Molat 😊
@larrydugan1441
@larrydugan1441 7 месяцев назад
The AIM 7 was tactically employed to break up and cause distrubtion in the enemy formation prior to the merge. It was not always deployed in the heart of the envelope to achieve a kill. Expensive but effective pre merge psych ops. Breaking up the incoming enemy formation has great advantages.
@cavemanbum
@cavemanbum 8 месяцев назад
13:04 - I think you meant to say, "Mirage 5s", not "MiG-5s".
@notapound
@notapound 8 месяцев назад
Great spot! Too many ‘M’s in aircraft names!!
@byronbailey9229
@byronbailey9229 8 месяцев назад
Enter the ZSU 23 four barrelled radar directed 30 mm. Goodbye fighter pilot in close air support.
@ericatkinson7006
@ericatkinson7006 8 месяцев назад
Good-by Egyptian aircraft in larger numbers.
@Chilly_Billy
@Chilly_Billy 8 месяцев назад
An ugly surprise but definitely not the end of CAS, even in 1973.
@wor53lg50
@wor53lg50 7 месяцев назад
The ZPU 23's wasnt 30mm though?, the clue is in the name?, the GSh 30/2 or shiparnov was a 30mm though, but that was only used on as or maybe navy vessels i think??..either you're trying to big something up that its clearly not??!, or you're not very clued up with soviet weoponry.....7mm is alot when you're a man, put it this way you'd be wanting to gain it rather than loose it!!..
@tetraxis3011
@tetraxis3011 7 месяцев назад
@@wor53lg50He could have gotten confused, as Pantsir uses 30mm guns and he may not understand Soviet designations.
@Siddich
@Siddich 8 месяцев назад
Mig 5E? you meant Mirage 5Es? 🤔
@thebioray
@thebioray 7 месяцев назад
well well
@jameshealer1395
@jameshealer1395 7 месяцев назад
13:00 that had me googling for like 5 mints
@sgomez3047
@sgomez3047 7 месяцев назад
Hmm, it's interesting how youtube cut off the very last word that you dictated!! We all know how it ended and how it will end.
@CoreyRhys
@CoreyRhys 7 месяцев назад
War is cruel, I hope there will be no more war.
@yoamal1187
@yoamal1187 8 месяцев назад
Forgot the IAI Sa'ar (super mysteres) which were also used
@neilturner6749
@neilturner6749 8 месяцев назад
Who forgot? They were mentioned in the narrative and featured in the force breakdown charts
@tetraxis3011
@tetraxis3011 7 месяцев назад
Some of these Super Mysteres would then go to Honduras and serve in a conflict against Nicaragua, shooting down a few Mi8s and one Mi25.
@heshamahmed1820
@heshamahmed1820 8 месяцев назад
Please do a fact check! Mohamed Aly Fahmy was the commander of the air defence forces. Former president Mubarak was the air force commander
@craig8724
@craig8724 8 месяцев назад
Nice informative Video. Did the IDF use F-5s?
@davidhoffman1278
@davidhoffman1278 8 месяцев назад
Officially they didn't use F-5s, but who the heck knows all the stuff the Israelis learned to acquire in the dark of the night.
@tetraxis3011
@tetraxis3011 7 месяцев назад
No, but they would have been very useful.
@jaws666
@jaws666 8 месяцев назад
Does anyone know if Israel used their Fouga Magister jet trainers as ground attack aircraft....a secondary role that it was designed to perform....i know they used them in that role in the 6 day war.
@amitnachman3840
@amitnachman3840 8 месяцев назад
not in 73.
@jaws666
@jaws666 8 месяцев назад
@@amitnachman3840 thanks for the info.....love that plane btw
@everythingman987
@everythingman987 7 месяцев назад
To my knowledge Palistan never operated the MiG-21. Instead they operated the Chengdu J-7 in multiple variants, and the original J-7 did differ from the MiG-21 F-13 it was based on because it had a different fuel system.
@everythingman987
@everythingman987 7 месяцев назад
Pakistan*
@r.b6170
@r.b6170 7 месяцев назад
The J7 entered Pakistani service in the late 1980s. Presumably, their experience came from their engagement of Indian mig 21s in 1971
@tacticooldude7509
@tacticooldude7509 7 месяцев назад
Talk about foreshadowing
@jonalexander2918
@jonalexander2918 7 месяцев назад
This video was very informative regarding the actual air assets of all the nations involved in this conflict, but neglected to cover the principal reason why the Israeli Air Force did not enjoy anywhere near the same success against Egypt and Syria as it had in the 1967 Six Day War. The main reason for this difference, which lead to a much more costly outcome for the Israeli's losing many more aircraft in 1973 than in 1967, was not because they had somehow underestimated the enemy's air to air capability, but was however do almost entirely to their underestimation of the enemy's ground to air capability. During the interim years between these two conflicts, sophisticated Soviet surface to air missile systems had been installed in key positions along the borders of these countries, and when the Israelis flew in to attack them, as they had done with relative impunity in 1967, their aircraft were simply shot down by those batteries in such large numbers that the Israelis were barely able to pull out the victory.
@920utdoors9
@920utdoors9 7 месяцев назад
I think Pakistani and Indian air forces get slept on. Those guys have seen some combat over the years
@tetraxis3011
@tetraxis3011 7 месяцев назад
So basically their equipment was good(barring missiles), but their training(In Egypts case) and command structure was not. That’s why Arab Migs sucked, while Vietnamese Migs did very well. Kinda odd though how Vietnam was able to perform well with outdated missiles but Syria and Egypt couldn’t do similarly.
@juliusraben3526
@juliusraben3526 8 месяцев назад
I just clicked so this clip is in my history. And because somebody maybe can answer this question: the 2 fighters in the thumbnail are Su-7 ?
@tetraxis3011
@tetraxis3011 7 месяцев назад
I think they may be Su17s, but could also be Su7s. To me they look like Su7s
@anastassiosmaragos7380
@anastassiosmaragos7380 8 месяцев назад
Incorrect about the mig21mf being superior to anything idf had outside the f4 . The m21mf was an up engined more powerful version of the f but it was a cheaper export only version with only 2 missiles and no gun unless the gun pack was installed.
@miquelescribanoivars5049
@miquelescribanoivars5049 8 месяцев назад
The MF had an internal gun and four pylons for missiles, maybe you mixed it up with the PF's? One thing to note though is that it was quite a bit heavier than previous generation MiG's, and according to Tom Cooper they were deployed to fighter bomber units and therefore their pilots didn't had as much training in air combat as the dedicated fighter-interceptor squadrons.
@anastassiosmaragos7380
@anastassiosmaragos7380 8 месяцев назад
Yes u r correct I stand corrected. Too many mig21 variants lol
@The_Comedian556
@The_Comedian556 21 день назад
13:06 Thats not a MIG 5, thats a Mirage.
@davidtan9680
@davidtan9680 7 месяцев назад
Hy, grandpa idf Mig-21 as same as line bullet wing 2 else 😅 So as whether mig 21 must cannon Gatling Gatling is 60 round Smooth winging else breaker?!? !
@treszenrv9401
@treszenrv9401 8 месяцев назад
Mig 5B? looks more like Dassault😁
@mianzahidmahmood
@mianzahidmahmood 8 месяцев назад
No Mig-19s?
@notapound
@notapound 8 месяцев назад
I believe that they were largely destroyed in 1967. The remaining aircraft were mothballed. Because the MiG-19 had a quite long and rocky development, it was basically replaced by the MiG-21 as an export product, so that’s what Egypt and Syria ended up with. China exported the J-6 to Egypt, Iran and Iraq later in the 1970s.
@mianzahidmahmood
@mianzahidmahmood 8 месяцев назад
Yes And Not To Mention Pakistan Also (250)@@notapound
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