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The Evolution Of Blast Beats & Grindcore - The Jazz Years 

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A look back in time where it all started.
I had to cut the video into two parts, so this is part one (jazz years).
This is the new and updated version of the The Evolution Of Blast Beats & Grindcore 08/2021.
I have no rights on the music of the artists, it is for informational purposes only.

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@2free2snakes
@2free2snakes 10 месяцев назад
Things that were a thing in jazz before metal; blast beats, bell rides, 7 string guitars, downtuning and double bass drumming
@onesyphorus
@onesyphorus 9 месяцев назад
yeah. and brazillians use 7 strings its a common thing there
@josueguillen2742
@josueguillen2742 9 месяцев назад
So basicly metal.
@Chicky_Lumps
@Chicky_Lumps 9 месяцев назад
Acoustic metal
@annone3428
@annone3428 8 месяцев назад
@@onesyphorusactually russians too, in oldschool romances
@onesyphorus
@onesyphorus 8 месяцев назад
oh yeah they used it a lot before that sergovia dude came along right? thats so cool, i've heard it was tuned like into a G chord or sumn? @@annone3428
@randallross420
@randallross420 11 месяцев назад
"I guess you guys aren't ready for that yet. But your kids are gonna love it." -Marty McFly, Godfather of Rock and Roll
@simonr9870
@simonr9870 11 месяцев назад
This !!!
@xMIRAKx
@xMIRAKx 10 месяцев назад
I’m not surprised of the Jazz roots. I once saw Whitney Houston’s drummer do a proper gravity blast at a Jazz bar in Seattle.
@SaltWaterDrums
@SaltWaterDrums 11 месяцев назад
Louis Bellson was also the father of double bass in drums, drawing up the idea for a double bass drum kit while still a kid in 1939.
@bartrosseau7481
@bartrosseau7481 10 месяцев назад
wanting to have the patterns he learned as a tapdancer to his drumkit
@Chicky_Lumps
@Chicky_Lumps 9 месяцев назад
​@@bartrosseau7481Man he basically started one of the greatest features of metal drumming.
@breakfastplan4518
@breakfastplan4518 2 года назад
Sam Woodyard. The godfather of blast beats. Respect.
@Nissardpertugiu
@Nissardpertugiu 11 месяцев назад
The guy is portraying Pete Sandoval in 1960
@evansfanily7510
@evansfanily7510 11 месяцев назад
Mofo could play for nile
@xmw-rat4558
@xmw-rat4558 11 месяцев назад
​@@evansfanily7510more like Last days of Humanity
@annihilation777
@annihilation777 10 месяцев назад
​@@xmw-rat4558you're not even exaggerating with that one chief
@bultronlagore4932
@bultronlagore4932 10 месяцев назад
@@evansfanily7510if you think Nile is all blast beats then you know nothing about drumming my little non musician. Seriously doubt Sam knew how to do Heel-Toe or Swivel Foot Techniques plus the amount of time it takes to learn how to use those techniques correctly then comes the stamina challenge and being able to reach those very fast double bass speeds. So no little buddy, Sam could not play for Nile.
@bryannguyen1260
@bryannguyen1260 Год назад
For the 1950s and beyond, that was extreme for its time.
@rjc7289
@rjc7289 10 месяцев назад
Somebody was tearing it up long before heavy metal became a thing. Doesn't matter what style or instrument.
@naswalt
@naswalt 10 месяцев назад
it's amazing how some of these songs I had listened to through a more modern lens and never picked up on "oh hey, that's extremely modern and forward thinking of them." Emerson Lake and Palmer even had the freaking bell of the ride. I cannot believe how spot on that is.
@michaelb.42112
@michaelb.42112 Год назад
I own a signed set of Louie Bellson drum sticks. Those guys are the DNA of drums. Jazz drumming from the mid 20th century will always be the gold standard. Oh, you earned my subscription by the research and editing you did. You're not just a hack rip off like 97% of YT.
@bodomiller4275
@bodomiller4275 Год назад
Thanks for your kind words! 🙏
@BomageMinimart
@BomageMinimart 10 месяцев назад
Same. It isn't often enough that I encounter others who understand that so much music that we think of as rock is really just jazz in different clothing, so to speak.
@Sterlingforsyth
@Sterlingforsyth 5 месяцев назад
Jazz is metal as fck
@Super221278
@Super221278 10 месяцев назад
Listen to Coltrane's the father and the son and the holy ghost. The drumming is chaotic. Pure art
@pinguchan1
@pinguchan1 11 месяцев назад
Popping in two years later to say that Tony Williams has several of the first recorded blastbeats that actually sound like blasts to contemporary metalheads. Check out the 1:40~ mark, and another build from the 3:00~ mark on “Vashkar” from Emergency! and I know there are examples of him doing this in some of the live releases with the Miles Davis quintet.
@nylesfrench3568
@nylesfrench3568 10 месяцев назад
❤❤❤❤ One of my favorites
@Mustlord_Guitar_Ambient
@Mustlord_Guitar_Ambient 10 месяцев назад
Here's another good one from the 1960s: 1:30 into Tom Jones & The Senators - What'd I Say (The Beat Room, 5th Oct 1964).
@febririyan7776
@febririyan7776 10 месяцев назад
1:42 hammer smashed face
@lordfizzz
@lordfizzz Год назад
Ah yes protogrind
@lihns
@lihns 11 месяцев назад
Black Sabbath … … my favorite jazz band !
@bodomiller4275
@bodomiller4275 11 месяцев назад
Right about that, my fault..!
@CursedInEternity92
@CursedInEternity92 11 месяцев назад
They knew how to play some jazz acctually, iommi and butler for sure
@marcrogers1051
@marcrogers1051 11 месяцев назад
The thing about heavy bands in the early 70's is that they have influences from jazz, blues, psychedelia, rock, classical...
@breakfreak3181
@breakfreak3181 11 месяцев назад
Bill Ward was heavily influenced by jazz
@mrmoo1413
@mrmoo1413 10 месяцев назад
Sabbath absolutely swings
@ronaldothomejunior3702
@ronaldothomejunior3702 Год назад
2:20 Ouch! Nick Mason... I am Pink Floyd fan and it's amazing to listen him in this way🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@jebroe860
@jebroe860 10 месяцев назад
The drum breaks in "Wipe Out" were a must. A lot of the drum solos were influenced by it. thanks
@royasaifi5653
@royasaifi5653 10 месяцев назад
Thats is where metal music actually came from. Jass n classic n blues. Those are the roots of it all.
@zachchytry1127
@zachchytry1127 10 месяцев назад
Agreed!!
@morganneher8643
@morganneher8643 10 месяцев назад
When Carl Palmer did it, it had POWER!!!! 💪 Bill Ward is SO OG it’s ridiculous!!!! He sounds METAL ALL the time 💪
@perimetroprimitivo5734
@perimetroprimitivo5734 11 месяцев назад
¡El blast beat siempre ha estado allí! Solo debían llegar oídos suficientemente podridos para apreciarlos
@netzerx
@netzerx 10 месяцев назад
Jaja, hay blast en las sinfonías de Bach y Beethoven .
@rodrigofalln
@rodrigofalln 10 месяцев назад
@@netzerx en cuales
@stephensevenpounder5447
@stephensevenpounder5447 10 месяцев назад
The first guy HAS to be Dave Lombardo's dad. That double kick....
@lucasgoudie1851
@lucasgoudie1851 11 месяцев назад
Tony Williams is a big Omission from this
@eugeniosimoes7078
@eugeniosimoes7078 11 месяцев назад
Carl Palmer is a monster
@robgrano6814
@robgrano6814 11 месяцев назад
Don't know if it's true or not, but I read that he was the only rock drummer that Buddy Rich thought was good.
@marcusianguzman6240
@marcusianguzman6240 11 месяцев назад
​​@@robgrano6814 truth Buddy's favorite rock drummer was Carl Palmer.. he also said after he was gone that Carl would be the best...
@BrianOfAteionas
@BrianOfAteionas 9 месяцев назад
And, it's the only clip in this video where the blast was used musically and as an actual beat.
@Purdenden
@Purdenden 10 месяцев назад
Dude, you made some NEAT RESEARCH
@anders9556
@anders9556 7 месяцев назад
Someone should make a brutal riff to these jazz drums
@1313sleepwalker666
@1313sleepwalker666 10 месяцев назад
Siempre encuentro algo nuevo del jazz que me impresiona, gracias.
@holeofsin
@holeofsin 10 месяцев назад
What a video! Love me some blast beats.
@emergentform1188
@emergentform1188 10 месяцев назад
Great vid dude!
@PutriOddity
@PutriOddity 2 года назад
I feel like this guy likes the Doors considering the amount of time they were given
@bodomiller4275
@bodomiller4275 2 года назад
True! But seriously, I really didnt look at the clock while making the edit/cuts, so it’s more a coincidence.
@a.a.1253
@a.a.1253 Год назад
Glad to see Sunny represented.
@careful__Icarus
@careful__Icarus 11 месяцев назад
Acid jazz with emphasis on acid.
@robotron17
@robotron17 10 месяцев назад
Buddy Rich did a very clean/fast blast beat in "West Side Story" throughout the 1960s ... usually one of the first fills in the song.
@mattvdh
@mattvdh 11 месяцев назад
Nobody ever talks about Charles Lee Benante of SOD for some reason. It's one thing to have a chaotic drum solo and another to fit it in to a musical context so it holds emotion. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7hfaB4tjmLc.html&ab_channel=HistoryofRockMusic-Mostpowerfulrocksongs
@bodomiller4275
@bodomiller4275 11 месяцев назад
Here you go (at 11:30 in the 80s Video): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gc3ZxDNq744.html Cheers mate!
@simonr9870
@simonr9870 11 месяцев назад
No worries on my end Charlie will always be one of the best metal drummers ever.
@1TakoyakiStore
@1TakoyakiStore 10 месяцев назад
You know... in hindsight I can definitely see blast beats being so common throughout music because it's such a great warm up routine. In some alternative universe playing octaves being synonymous with black metal 😂
@ExecutionSommaire
@ExecutionSommaire 11 месяцев назад
Jazz players usually have crazy fast hands
@CharlieWielowski
@CharlieWielowski 11 месяцев назад
The Doors definitely gives me chills, having watched Apocalypse Now
@rocketsalad
@rocketsalad 10 месяцев назад
Morrison was an insufferable lunkhead goon, but Manzarek, Krieger, and Densmore were a band of unimpeachable skill and unquestionable talent. Peak musicianship.
@carlosmagnodealmeida9500
@carlosmagnodealmeida9500 11 месяцев назад
We also have a blast beat in the final moments of "The End" also by The Doors
@leblon712
@leblon712 10 месяцев назад
ELP.... Awesome!!!
@AlexBlades-dh5tb
@AlexBlades-dh5tb Месяц назад
Talk about a “blast” from the past!
@WhoisVinnie
@WhoisVinnie 2 года назад
I think you should've included Tony Williams
@srj_br
@srj_br 10 месяцев назад
The Doors - The End, in final section have a blastbeat!
@StephanBuchin
@StephanBuchin 10 месяцев назад
Louie Bellson already played with double bass drums. I'm shocked 😮
@BrianOfAteionas
@BrianOfAteionas 9 месяцев назад
Really interesting to hear blasts used in a song / musical way outside of a drum solo as early as 1970
@repairdepartment5918
@repairdepartment5918 10 месяцев назад
F-ing awesome
@modev4163
@modev4163 10 месяцев назад
This man even did a whole dance move for you during
@sigmaramen
@sigmaramen 10 месяцев назад
Sunny Murray is clearly the first time where it was played in the form that it is the most familiar to us - alternating 16th notes between the kick, snare, and cymbal, rather than the tom surface, as heard in the recordings before. Also, don't know if you've covered these, but in the late 60s and early 70s, some early blast examples, in the context of rock music (then punk, metal, etc): Cream - Sunshine of Your Love (@ 4:02) Blast - Damned Flame (@ 1:46)
@bodomiller4275
@bodomiller4275 10 месяцев назад
Blast rocks man, thanks a lot for the tip!
@WhoisVinnie
@WhoisVinnie 2 года назад
WOOOOWOWOOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW
@stevenbusch9336
@stevenbusch9336 10 месяцев назад
Thanks 🤘🏼
@NirwisayaRecords
@NirwisayaRecords 10 месяцев назад
And yes.. Metal music has roots in jazz
@edwardthegreat3954
@edwardthegreat3954 10 месяцев назад
That one in Emerson lake and palmer is the more accurate form. Is already one hand on the ride and another one on the snare. Is the nearest on the list at traditional blastbeat.
@larvalangel
@larvalangel 10 месяцев назад
After hearing the ELP track, I put on Yezda Urfa's Sacred Baboon album, which then reminded me of Righteous Pigs.
@benjaminkip9143
@benjaminkip9143 10 месяцев назад
Crippled society: the womb of blast beats
@marks.3303
@marks.3303 7 месяцев назад
Love's "7 and 7 Is" has some ferocious drumming from Alban "Snoopy" Pfisterer.
@992ras
@992ras 9 месяцев назад
I was about to say Louie was playing a roll then just matching his feet with his hands. Usually in jazz a blast beat was more used in transitions technically a blast beat is a 8th note played at 120 bpms which the basic ride pattern of the jazz shuffle is 120 bpms
@evangrimminck2248
@evangrimminck2248 10 месяцев назад
Some jazz requires a metal mentality for sure.
@mikereseigh
@mikereseigh 3 месяца назад
Agree with this
@kaikaivilu
@kaikaivilu 10 месяцев назад
You forgot Fireball, first proto speed metal song.
@grindcoeur.cedreek
@grindcoeur.cedreek 3 месяца назад
waow !
@drhall343
@drhall343 Год назад
The Doors sounded like they were attempting minimalist music, rather than blast beats. 😂
@linusfotograf
@linusfotograf 11 месяцев назад
Yeah, I heard no blasting
@rocketsalad
@rocketsalad 10 месяцев назад
More of a traditional psych rock freakout jam imho, and may I add it’s a v good one at that. Some things just never go out of style 🤘
@ryadachaibou8098
@ryadachaibou8098 11 месяцев назад
5:26 beautiful
@brain.in.a.body.
@brain.in.a.body. 10 месяцев назад
This was so fuckin interesting
@laabsenceofcol8079
@laabsenceofcol8079 10 месяцев назад
Have you heard the proto metal etc pre Sabbath? Some scary stuff
@thedream-workdoesnotthink4512
@thedream-workdoesnotthink4512 10 месяцев назад
Coletrane's Interstellar Space. Rasheed Ali on drums.
@Mustlord_Guitar_Ambient
@Mustlord_Guitar_Ambient 10 месяцев назад
Give this one a try, it's a great example from the 1960s: 1:30 into Tom Jones & The Senators - What'd I Say (The Beat Room, 5th Oct 1964).
@dirtydoge756
@dirtydoge756 11 месяцев назад
That Emerson, Lake and Palmer song SLAPPED lol
@rocketsalad
@rocketsalad 10 месяцев назад
ELP was fundamentally incapable of ever not GOING HARD AF 💯, dig in to their catalog (welcome to your new obsession, btw 😅) and you’ll see 🙌
@fiftyonsix
@fiftyonsix 3 месяца назад
Look into ‘Flower Punk’ by Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention. First fully blast song?
@histatimaniples
@histatimaniples 6 месяцев назад
Jazz was just classical music players messing around
@mattnobrega6621
@mattnobrega6621 10 месяцев назад
Jazzcore 🤟😎
@marcopulidori2194
@marcopulidori2194 10 месяцев назад
Sam Woodyard Is incredible drum man Rip❤
@WhoisVinnie
@WhoisVinnie 2 года назад
Woodyard*
@phillydisco
@phillydisco 10 дней назад
Wow, whodathunk that later musicians were influenced by earlier ones
@adamhopkins6058
@adamhopkins6058 10 месяцев назад
It's weird why modern drummers don't strive to this kind of perfection
@angelscream02
@angelscream02 10 месяцев назад
blame pop music culture.
@marcus2239
@marcus2239 10 месяцев назад
Underground. I think the new Signs of the Swarm album Amongst the low and empty Is a drummer's album.
@mmestari
@mmestari 10 месяцев назад
What are you talking about? There's lots of drummers alive today that far better than any shown in this video.
@marcus2239
@marcus2239 10 месяцев назад
@@mmestari well you have to have roots also. These drummers mentioned paved the way for drummers today and if it weren't for the pioneer drummers striving to be awesome and creative we wouldn't have all the Great drummers of today.
@snapperboat25
@snapperboat25 10 месяцев назад
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. You don’t get out much do you? The technical prowess of modern drumming is through the roof to say the least. I am 63 and been playing since the age of 9. In my prime I couldn’t touch the skill level of Nekrutmann and his modern colleagues.
@willyman74
@willyman74 10 месяцев назад
Todo se trata de los queridos rudimentos 🎉🎉🎉
@theprimagen
@theprimagen 2 месяца назад
3:35 almost started to sound like wont get fooled again
@fhgdfh3219
@fhgdfh3219 10 месяцев назад
Carl Palmer... So fucking Great
@richardrenner4875
@richardrenner4875 10 месяцев назад
These guys are all good, and super fast, but they aren't playing blast beats. These played here are just fast drum solos. Generally, any beat has hands and feet repeatedly playing the same sequence of notes, as blast beats do, but fast during the course of a measure, a break, or even a whole song. Moving quickly around the toms and smashing cymbals randomly are only solos or breaks or fills. Bill Ward does give us good example of a good blast.
@user-ks6yt1wq9s
@user-ks6yt1wq9s 10 месяцев назад
1:00 но вот эта техника игры, очень похожа на современную технику игры blast beats.А так вы правы,в этом видео нету blast beats.
@user-jr3zr2mp9c
@user-jr3zr2mp9c 9 месяцев назад
"acshually 🤓"
@postmortemritual
@postmortemritual 10 месяцев назад
01:35 John Zorn's Painkiller o.O
@bodomiller4275
@bodomiller4275 10 месяцев назад
Yea kinda! 😅
@t3hgir
@t3hgir 10 месяцев назад
Nick Mason straight up single foot trad-blasting lmao
@eclipse121123
@eclipse121123 10 месяцев назад
Most of the stuff are not actually blasts, but extended fills...
@adamcruz3172
@adamcruz3172 10 месяцев назад
I would like to mention that the drummer of Pantera probably the first to blast beat as it would be played in it's genre
@bodomiller4275
@bodomiller4275 10 месяцев назад
In which song?
@adamcruz3172
@adamcruz3172 10 месяцев назад
@@bodomiller4275 I'm actually going to go back in time further. And have to say Charlie Benante had influenced the blast beats into the genre of metal, and not what punk music was doing
@robertoricci3393
@robertoricci3393 10 месяцев назад
​@@adamcruz3172Blast beat as we know it today has its roots in punk drumming. Even Benante stated he didn't invent it and gives the credit to the early 80's hardcore bands.
@adamcruz3172
@adamcruz3172 10 месяцев назад
@@robertoricci3393 I think we're on the same page
@stephanerancourt7188
@stephanerancourt7188 10 месяцев назад
What are the doors doing there ??? What about budy rich?? Thus is I complete .
@nitroanilinmusic
@nitroanilinmusic 10 месяцев назад
first one sounds so much like meander by textures (well, the other way around)
@cthulpaspawn
@cthulpaspawn 9 месяцев назад
ELP 4 LIFE
@VFella
@VFella 11 месяцев назад
Fuck Dude!! I was, oh, shit that's really fucking fast!!! Until I noticed that I had set the speed at 2x, LOL.
@terryoster9699
@terryoster9699 11 месяцев назад
Where is Mr Baker?
@mothaphukkas
@mothaphukkas 11 месяцев назад
Nick Mason does not get enough respect.
@MegaMike3443
@MegaMike3443 11 месяцев назад
george suranovich on august by love 1969 should have been on here
@JohnnyCake6759
@JohnnyCake6759 10 месяцев назад
What is the Albert Ayler song featured here named?
@bodomiller4275
@bodomiller4275 10 месяцев назад
I think it was a variation of the song „ghost“
@JohnnyCake6759
@JohnnyCake6759 10 месяцев назад
@@bodomiller4275Thank you. I ended up finding the originally recording. Here it is, for everyone interested. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nuCxMd8SfNE.html
@markomarkovic5729
@markomarkovic5729 10 месяцев назад
Ringo Starr played blast beat for a few seconds in Helter Skelter at around 2:00 back in 1968.
@gareginasatryan6761
@gareginasatryan6761 4 месяца назад
Who’s the drummer before Pink Floyd’s clip
@stefanmuller3435
@stefanmuller3435 3 месяца назад
Sunny Murray
@Tarik_Molotov
@Tarik_Molotov 7 месяцев назад
Professor explicando a prova Eu com duas canetas que achei no chão:
@jameswayne8256
@jameswayne8256 10 месяцев назад
If [insert any musical innovation] exists, jazz did it first.
@MuffinMan1278
@MuffinMan1278 2 месяца назад
....Which Jazz artist did guttural vocals?
@jgunther3398
@jgunther3398 10 месяцев назад
i don't think what you're talking about is complex enough to have an evolution, just prior coincidences
@ghostsquirrel8739
@ghostsquirrel8739 10 месяцев назад
How did you miss Ginger Baker?!?
@Gordo804
@Gordo804 7 месяцев назад
1:31 what record is this please
@bodomiller4275
@bodomiller4275 7 месяцев назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qPslczm0V_Y.htmlsi=0xiSAdFSkH9KB8te Must be a variation of the ghost recordings
@pix-can-fix643
@pix-can-fix643 9 дней назад
1:29 death jazz
@lucif3erum
@lucif3erum 10 месяцев назад
Sam Woodward for Origin 2024
@Lycanthropy54or
@Lycanthropy54or Год назад
Is there a difference between a trash can ending and blast beats?
@briankehew579
@briankehew579 11 месяцев назад
Yes but this video doesn't acknowledge that. Shredding on a guitar is not the same as making fast noises. Only a few of these would qualify as blast beat.
@DrumLogick
@DrumLogick 10 месяцев назад
Here's Carl blasting at the Isle of Wight ru-vid.comUgkxJCBKTaMtiyEO4fOsC56tPndrtNLUwG2K
@valeriocruciani
@valeriocruciani 10 месяцев назад
And Buddy Rich?
@bodomiller4275
@bodomiller4275 10 месяцев назад
Comes with the update.
@ad3681
@ad3681 10 месяцев назад
you missed Billy Cobham
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